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John Clayton watch


As always, this is just my opinion.

We here on MHR know that John Clayton is the epitome of a sports journalist masquerading as a serious journalist.  Not that one can't be both, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so and many (especially those on or connected to ESPN) are bowing to the pressure of their peers.  John Clayton is dubbed "The Professor" by his colleagues, but I find this rather sycophantic and woefully inaccurate.  I have a better nickname in mind, but it borders on breaking MHR's code of conduct, so I will reserve it for my own giggling/sniggering pleasure.

In the interest of full disclosure and merit-based praise/censure, I am going to start a John Clayton watch now that we have equalled his preseason win prediction for the season (3-13).  I've said on other Fanposts that I want accountability in the MSM, and less ill-informed opinion masquerading as expert analysis.  I want to provide that accountability for Clayton, and I promise you: if he is honest and open about his mistakes, I will sincerely acknowledge that and stop keeping an eye on him.  If not, I'll continue to be a mosquito in a tornado, but at least a mosquito who forms his opinions based on fact instead of fan-based prejudice.

This first installment will be a baseline, covering all his comments on the 2009 Broncos.  I'll occasionally alert you to clues to his modus operandi (MO from here on out), which helps to understand how his prior conceptions shape how he views the facts.  Also, I'll give you some heads-up to a few snide remarks he throws out from time to time that show both how he overextends himself in criticism of the Broncos (beyond the point of face-saving retraction), and how his descent into faux journalism is complete.  So, let's begin!

Star-divide

March 9, 2009: Mailbag -- Broncos' front 7

  • Clayton admits he is "baffled" and is "not sure what they [the Broncos] are doing", referring to supposedly not addressing the front 7 (i.e., DTs, LBs, DEs) in free agency
  • He takes issue with taking in 3 new RBs and calls the defensive players aquired "aging"
  • Snide quote: calls the Broncos free agency period "an expensive tryout camp". 
  • MO alert: Clayton thinks the Broncos "need more help at nose tackle" -- Fields is a "good rotational player", but the Broncos need to trade up to get B. J. Raji.  He believes that the Broncos are trying a similar strategy to the 2008 Dolphins: quantity over quality. 
  • To his credit, he acknowledges the above worked for the Fins and says, "we'll see if it works for the Broncos."

March 16th, 2009: Mailbag -- Jay Cutler (pre-trade)

  • Clayton looks at Jay Cutler and thinks that the Browns would be a good fit.  To his credit, he correctly calls the final compensation package (roughly--i.e., two first-rounders and a third-rounder)
  • MO alert: He calls the situation "messed-up" and places the blame on McDaniels for having "ruined Cutler's confidence in the organization"
  • Snide quote: believes that McDaniels "continues to push the issue the wrong way by trying to be more like a boss than a diplomat".
  • He claims that Cutler "apparently had still planned to show up" for the start of the offseason program until talks between Cutler and McDaniels "fell apart because of poor communication"
  • He believes that "Cook, Jay Cutler's agent, has done nothing... other than offer his support."  He claims that Cook "is not trying to play hardball" -- Favre and McNair to the contrary -- and that "the problem is between Cutler and his coach."
  • He defends Cutler's antics, pleading to "give [him] some space," reminding people of Favre's immaturity in Atlanta and subsequent trade to Green Bay -- "You saw how well that one worked out"

Article -- March 26th, 2009: Jay Cutler (pre-trade)

  • He speculates that seeing the interest in Jay Cutler ("the hottest trade commodity in the NFL in more than a decade") "might have convinced... Josh McDaniels to try and mend his relationship with the star instead of trying to trade the quarterback."
  • He reports that Josh McDaniels "continued to try to text or call Cutler", causing Cutler to consider going to the Broncos' facility
  • He claims McDaniels "fail[ed] to ease Cutler's anger about interest in Matt Cassel", but is now "willing to work with his quarterback."
  • He opines that Cutler will still be with the Broncos in 2009.

Article -- April 2, 2009: Rookie pay scales

  • Even in an article that (while inspired by Cutler) doesn't have Cutler as its main topic, he gets in a little jab: "Josh McDaniels scrambles to make the best of a bad Jay Cutler situation."
  • MO alert: He calls Cutler "proven."

Article -- April 30, 2009: Trading away a future first-rounder

  • To his credit, he mentions how the Panthers did the same thing this year and last year.  He also mentions that it seems to have worked for the Panthers last year.  Unfortunately, he loses when he cites Smith's height but fails to cite Everette Brown's height, or the fact that FSU linebackers have a poor NFL record, or the fact that there were lots of questions regarding Brown's motivation.  If he questions the merit of one player, he should do so for the other.
  • He cites Denver's "porous" defense and "several questions" on offense to throw doubt on the strategy
  • He believes the Broncos "could give Seattle a very high pick in the 2010 draft"

Article -- June 2, 2009: Quarterback competitions

  • To his credit, he calls Iron Clady "one of the leagues best young tackles."

Mailbag -- June 8, 2009: Broncos and Vick/Young

  • An obviously disgruntled fan wonders why we can't get Michael Vick or Vince Young.  To his credit, Clayton realizes that McDaniels would never stand for such blasphemy.
  • An odd exchange occurs where he wonders why he's still getting "bombed" with emails from Bronco fans wondering why he questions the Cutler trade.  He says, "Orton is good [props at least for that].  Cutler is better.  We stand together in our thinking."   Ummm... Aren't you kind of missing the point, John?

Article -- July 23, 2009: Training camp storylines

  • Clayton examines the Broncos, Chiefs, and Packers' switch to a 3-4 look, and states that the Broncos will have the hardest time of the three unless "Ronald Fields can do what wasn't done in San Francisco."
  • MO alert: he claims that for a 3-4 to work, "you need a great nose tackle who can draw double-team blocks."

Mailbag -- August 3, 2009: AFC West

  • In answering why the AFC West (supposedly) is the "dregs of the league", he claims that the Broncos "haven't drafted well for years."  To his credit, he makes an exception of the 2008 draft.
  • MO alert: he says, "Better days are ahead, but it's not going to be this season for [the Chiefs, Raiders, and Broncos]"
  • Interestingly, on the basis that the 2008 draft was "one of [Shanahan's] better drafts," he states he was "stunned" that Shanahan was fired.
  • Later in the mailbag, he says about Orton, "I thought he came into his own last season with the Bears.  The guy has been a winner."
  • However, he says that Orton will have to be "great" this year to continue his winning ways, because he's now got a "leaky" defense backing him up.

Mailbag -- August 24, 2009: Brandon Marshall

  • A few things to his credit: he calls Orton "good," and realizes that the Broncos can "get by" without Marshall at WR.
  • He reiterates his belief that the Broncos' defense is "suspect" and as a result we will "play a lot of shootouts"
  • MO alert: He sees the middle of our schedule as a place where "it's going to be hard to win many games" -- in fact, from October 4 to Thanksgiving, he says we could "lose all eight [games]"
  • He is also of the opinion that getting value (i.e., a 1st and 4th rounder) for Marshall is "the wise thing to do if McDaniels is going to build the Broncos back into a playoff team."

First and Ten -- September 9, 2009: Week 1 Previews

  • Clayton reiterates his opinion that McDaniels "chased away" Jay Cutler and calls the whole affair a "soap opera"
  • He sees the state of the Broncos as a "mess" and doesn't give them much chance against "a Bengals offense that can put up big numbers".  He expects Chad Ochocinco to have "a great day" against the Broncos secondary (final stats: 5 catches, 89 yards, no TDs)

First and Ten -- September 17, 2009: Week 2 previews

  • According to Clayton, the Bengals offense played "poorly" losing to the Broncos.  Seeing as how the Bengals "couldn't do anything with the Broncos' 3-4, they probably will have more trouble with what the Packers and [defensive coordinator Dom] Capers will plan" -- Chad Ochocinco will not be able to do a Lambeau leap (final stats: 4 catches, 91 yards, 1 TD)
  • Snide comment: he calls the Broncos win over the Bengals "fluky but fun" -- I can almost feel him patting me on the head condescendingly.
  • Interestingly, he thinks that the Browns' offense "couldn't do anything" vs. the Vikings.  Really?  13 points, 268 total net yards, and 5.1 ypc for Jamal Lewis -- not amazing, but certainly something.

Mailbag -- September 30, 2009: Denver's 3-0 record

  • A veiled mea culpa: He says the Broncos "might reach 6 or 7 wins by the end of the season if they win [either vs. Dallas or New England]".  He also says "it's pretty clear the Broncos have established themselves as a better team than the Chiefs and Raiders in the AFC West."  Considering his predicted 4th place finish in the division, that's a retraction... of sorts.
  • He defends his initial 3-13 projection by referring to the "gauntlet" of 8 games coming up between now and Thanksgiving.  "Where will the Broncos get their wins during this stretch?" he rhetorically asks.

First and Ten -- October 1, 2009: Week 4 previews

  • The Broncos are "the biggest surprise in football."  Their Week 1 upset of the Bengals was "a stunner".
  • Snide quote: "Mike Nolan has pieced together a 3-4 defense with some castoff defensive linemen.  He has patched the secondary with veterans."

 

CONCLUSIONS

Really, his words stand well on their own.  A few things, though.  To his credit, he doesn't seem to be an Orton hater or of the MSM variety who is allured by gaudy QB stats.  He also is usually fair with assigning praise where it is due.  Still, with the Broncos he put himself past the point of no return long ago.  His frequent snide comments, plus his devotion to particular football philosophies (especially about how to build a 3-4 defense), and finally a bizarrely one-sided take on the Jay Cutler situation, have placed his perspective on the Broncos outside the realm of objective journalism.  While I don't think he is consciously grinding an axe in regards to the Broncos, I think that his perceptual schema is just as colored as ours is.  Honestly, I only see two ways for him to acknowledge any success the Broncos may have: Either capitulate entirely and print the phrase, "I was wrong about the Broncos and Josh McDaniels", or ignore his prior statements to the contrary and slowly transition himself  into a believer (in print).  What he absolutely cannot do is re-interpret his prior statements as being conditional or contingent.  He has painted himself into a corner, which is somewhat unique in the world of sports journalism.  Usually, a journalist will leave himself/herself an out, relying on the vagaries of an NFL season and so-called "weasel words" (i.e., should, ought to, might be, probably, etc.) to remove accountability.  John Clayton, however, has firmly established himself as someone who is against McDaniels and is invested in the Broncos' failure.  We will see if he does the manful thing and admits it, or if he tries to wiggle his way free in the coming weeks.

But as always, this is just my opinion.

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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The msm summed up

http://www.bangcartoon.com/2006/predictions.htm

"Pleased? We are excited about the proposition of going forward from where we are right now. Pleased? I don't know if you want to say pleased. You may want to hang your hat on pleased. I don't want to hang my hat on nothing right now."

-Brian Dawkins, on the play of the defense

Once he gets his hands on you, there's not much you're going to do. Then you can't outrun him, you can't run around him, you can't really run him over -- so you've just got to deal with it."

Elvis Dumerville, on Ryan Clady

by milehighnation on Oct 4, 2009 12:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome! had a big laugh..love that website

Bleeding Orange & Blue in The Netherlands

by BroncosNL on Oct 4, 2009 5:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!!! REC'd with TONS of research

Of course when we win 10 games, clayton will just say how we are the surprise of the league and be done with it.

by Calibroncoboy on Oct 4, 2009 12:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Unfortunately. His comments after the Cincy game were particularly instructive. The Broncos win was “fluky and fun” (honestly, I just want to punch him every time I read that), but it only happened because the Cincy offense played “poorly”. After making predictions that the same offense will have lots of trouble with the (supposedly) same defense in GB, he is proved wrong on both counts and doesn’t trouble to acknowledge it in the slightest.

More than that, he is likely to say we are the surprise of the league and then talk about the Ravens, the Patriots, the Chargers, the Jets, etc. We’ll get a few lines, but no more full-blown articles. However, those were in abundant supply when things looked bleak for the Broncos.

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 7:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Impression

First of all, thank you for compiling all of this. It is very helpful to see it all in one place. This type of post is why I love coming to this site so much.

But second of all, I came away with a better impression of Clayton after reading this than I had before I read it, which may only indicate just how low my opinion of him was a few minutes ago. I have to admit that I had been focusing only on his disparaging statements concerning the Broncos and did not realize that he has not been one of the Orton bashers all along. For Clayton anyway, it has been more pro-Cutler than anti-Orton, and the problem was his having the facts wrong concerning the Cutler/McDaniels interaction, which is bad enough on its own to warrant public criticism but is not what I (mis)remembered.

Tack, I would be interested in your (and others’) opinion concerning whether you think Clayton has been motivated more by a tendency to dislike the Broncos or a tendency to dislike McDaniels (I assume because he was a Patriot). I am having a difficult time believing Clayton was just mistaken, but I am also reminded of the old saying that one should never attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance, so maybe he was just sloppy and found himself taking positions he could not take back. I honestly am not sure.

I would have been able to ignore Clayton et al. this spring if they had not been so effective in turning Bronco fans against the team and the new coach, which really upset me. I have to thank Clayton in the end, however, because his “reporting” was exactly the type of thing that lead me to MHR. I look forward to the next installment of John Clayton Watch.

P.S. Do you think Clayton is one of the “folks” Kiszla is referring to in his column this morning?
“When folks grumbled that McDaniels was not ready to win pro football games on his own at age 33, it made me laugh, because he is made of far stronger coaching material than Phillips ever was at age 46, back in the days he could be spied wearing a Broncos stocking cap and a Deputy Dawg frown on the sideline, looking as lost as a cowboy left out in the snow. " http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_13480739

by phondonkey on Oct 4, 2009 5:49 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh...

Isn’t Kiz one of the folks Kiz is referring to? I feel like he was all over McD all off-season. (Though, maybe I’m wrong and am just confusing Kizla with everyone else.)

by MarshallMcCard on Oct 4, 2009 7:07 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, Kizla was.

I absolutely will not do the same thing for Kizla, although I considered doing it once upon a time. So, I’m going mostly off of impressions, but I remember reading several of his articles (especially during the Cutler situation) where he was incredibly snide and cutting. McDaniels was the frequent target of his barbs, and several potshots regarding his age, football pedigree, and personality were thrown in there.

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 7:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought

Kizla’s a boob, and he was before the McD/Cutler situation.

by MarshallMcCard on Oct 4, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My opinion of Clayton's motivation:

I would say that it stems from McDaniels. Few pundits dislike the Broncos per se. Many of them overlook the Broncos, because they are not on one of the coasts (especially the East). In addition to that, it seems pretty clear that the root of Clayton’s unpleasantness with the Broncos organization stemmed from McDaniels in free agency. He was convinced that the Broncos, in transitioning to a 3-4 and considering their 2008 defense, absolutely needed to get a dominant nose tackle and young talent. When neither happened either in free agency or the draft (somehow, he never once mentions Ayers), Clayton lost faith in McDaniels’ ability to build a team.

In fact, there’s a quote there directly to that effect that I didn’t put in. These were just articles written specifically by him, which was intended to give him the benefit of the doubt. My thought is, if you are only given 100 words to make your point about a team in someone else’s article (or a compilation one), then you almost have to be pithy and oversimplified. And it’s really not fair to take those one-liners and throw them back in Clayton’s face. But the stuff he puts out in his own articles is very fair game.

It’s good I could dispel the myth that he was an Orton-basher. I like to see the good and the bad of people; with Clayton there is a whole lot more bad than good to me (bad/good referring to his journalism).

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 7:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting point.

I always thought Clayton and the Gang were somewhat annoyed with the fact McDaniels and the Broncos didn’t “do” what many of these same supposed “informed” football journalists/experts thought they should do (no Raji, no Malaualuga, Moreno WTheck??). There’s no worse way to ruin a supposed expert’s credibility by doing something different than what the experts think and then go and have those decisions work!

As with everything, time will tell…..

Go Broncos! Can’t wait….

Blues. Cardinals. Rockies (when not playing St. Louis!). Broncos.
Drinkin' the orange kool-aid since the day McDaniels was hired.
Go DU hockey! Go Mammoth!

by HockeyHippie on Oct 4, 2009 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

You'd think so

Wouldn’t you? But year after year, it seems to me that these same guys get proven wrong, and every year they are back with their predictions. Every wrong prediction seems to vanish into ether, and their “credibility” remains strangely undamaged.

I appreciate Sharpe’s effort here, because it’s an attempt to pin those predictions to the actual outcome- something these guys manage to dodge routinely.

by AllBroncsallday on Oct 4, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vanish into [the] ether

is right. That’s the problem, and Kizla is a good example of this. Most sportswriters will make bold statements initially and then hedge their bets as the winds start to change. By the time the facts become obvious to all concerned, they’ve joined the bandwagon and haven’t said anything negative about the bandwagon for several months. And life goes on.

A sad commentary on both our national attention span and the integrity of sports journalists.

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gee, we don't seem to miss Raji

I wasn’t much of a Raji supporter and I don’t want to be accused of an ‘I told you so’ approach, so I’ll just note that Fields and Thomas are doing well and Baker is being groomed for the line with daily meetings between him and .Nunnely (and E. Ped). Raji may come on later — many young DL players need those three years to mature — but so far, he’s been nothing to write home about.

Hillis/Moreno in '09

by Emmett Smith on Oct 4, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed!

Blues. Cardinals. Rockies (when not playing St. Louis!). Broncos.
Drinkin' the orange kool-aid since the day McDaniels was hired.
Go DU hockey! Go Mammoth!

by HockeyHippie on Oct 4, 2009 11:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is the root of much of the MSM's problems with the Broncos

They fixate on fairly status quo philosophies (i.e., 3-4 not 5-2, need a dominant nose tackle, age is paramount, etc.) and then regurgitate them without any contradiction from their colleagues. It’s free-market groupthink. And arrogance, to think that their philosophy is the only one that can work. Come to think of it, it’s also stupidity since in the NFL philosophies come and go, wax and wane.

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clayton has all the tools and the position to be a fine journalist. He just tries really hard to be Joan Rivers, instead of Howard Cosell.

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
Shaquille O'Neal

by tannji on Oct 4, 2009 7:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

4-0 and well on our way to 3-13. Nice call professor.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 4, 2009 6:30 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

!!!!!!

You tell him.

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't stand Clayton

But I think he’s been pretty fair with what he’s said. I’m mean its hard to argue that the Broncos arn’t a surprise team. Everybody (that includes plenty of us die hard fans) thought the Bronco’s would struggle. New coaches, players, schemes, and the loss of the franchise qb more often than not the recipe for disaster. I wouldn’t expect Clayton to see 3 games and suddenly declare the Broncos world beaters. His predictions have been wrong to this point, but we’re still only a quarter of the way into the year.

The Broncos could still finish the season 4-12 and we’d all be stuck eating our words and Clayton would be dead on. I don’t think that will happen (I smell playoffs) but lets actually let the guy be wrong before we skewer him.

by laser rocket arm on Oct 4, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I intend to do a watch, not a witch hunt

I have my opinion regarding his (in)correctness, but I promise I will expose myself if I’m wrong. Just like I’ll expose him if/when he’s wrong.

Not that it’ll do any good, but it does me good.

True, the Broncos are a surprise. But it’s the stubbornness to admit any successes at all that is infuriating. When we were 3-0 and had been holding our cupcake opponents to significantly fewer points, yards, and successes than they had against their other opponents, he continued to reiterate what he did in the offseason: no big NT, too many RBs, and old DBs. Time will tell, for sure. But so far he’s been absolutely refusing to acknowledge any ground, retreat even an inch. That’s why I’m singling him out.

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure this has been opined before,

but every time I see John Clayton I think of Mr. Garrison on “South Park!”

:)

Blues. Cardinals. Broncos. Rockies (when not playing St. Louis!).
Drinkin' the orange kool-aid since the day McDaniels was hired.
Go DU hockey! Go Mammoth!

by HockeyHippie on Oct 4, 2009 7:47 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What do you think about that, Mr. Hat?

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 8:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stephen A. Smith

For fellow Nuggets fans, I’m sure they all remember similar comments mad by ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith. If you haven’t noticed as soon as the NBA season was finished with the Nuggets facing the Lakers for the Western Conf. Title, Stephen A. Smith was fired.

by NuggetsLife on Oct 4, 2009 8:40 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

One can only hope that was b/c of his poor prognostication.

If it’s anything like the NFL, though, it had nothing to do with it.

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stephen A. Smith...

is the TV equivalent of those on the internet that feel that their point is best made IN ALL CAPS.

Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.

by Drizzt396 on Oct 25, 2009 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

As of 10/4/2009 - 9:16pm MST John Clayton writes;

5. Broncos are no fluke: The Broncos are for real. They beat the Cowboys 17-10 in what was supposed to start an impossible stretch of games for Denver. As turbulent as the offseason was, head coach Josh McDaniels made the regular season smooth. The Broncos are 4-0 and appear to be big players in the AFC playoff race. Beating the Cowboys was huge. Denver’s defense withstood a last-minute drive by Tony Romo. Mike Nolan, the Broncos’ defensive coordinator, totally took away the Cowboys’ running attack. Like he did in Week 2 against the Giants, Romo made bad decisions. The last pass of the game was broken up by Champ Bailey. If you need to win a game, never throw on Bailey. Romo threw a costly interception in the Broncos’ red zone early in the second half. That interception, which was grabbed by Bailey, might have been the turning point. Had the Cowboys settled for a field goal, they would have led 13-7.

Broncos QB Kyle Orton is doing a lot of the same things that made him a winner in Chicago. He completed 20 of 29 passes for 243 yards and two touchdowns. He might not be making spectacular plays like Jay Cutler. But he’s winning. Welcome back to the playoff race, Denver.

by Bustafluff on Oct 4, 2009 9:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I was about to post the same thing.

So… has he come around too soon? I’m as big a Bronco fan as anyone here, I expected to win the first three, had high hopes for today’s game, but I’m not naive enough to think that the next four games are gimmes. I feel like Clayton has spun around too quickly with this.

by BroncofaninBK on Oct 4, 2009 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't see how he's "spun around too quickly" here

He states the Broncos “appear to be big players” in the playoff race. Considering our division, that’s in no way out of the question. He’s already been on record stating we are better than KC and OAK (obvious), and especially after tonight’s loss by the Chargers we have control of the division and appear to be the better team. That’s all we really need.

Gimmes? No. But “impossible”? Absolutely not. The Redskins look atrocious, the Chargers look iffy, the Steelers look dangerous but very beatable, the same for the Patriots, and possibly the Ravens as well…

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've already started a new installment with this in it.

I think this is a major step forward, and was necessitated by his prior comments, and gives much credit where it should go to. Still, it’s only half of what I am looking for. I’ll explain more in the full post.

Way to go, Clayton!

"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"

by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 4, 2009 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy, we just won't give him a break, will we?? :)

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by HockeyHippie on Oct 4, 2009 11:27 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Clayton's source dried up

Obviously Clayton’s Bronco source was either Bus Cook, one of the ex-coaching staff or someone close to Cutler on the team; when he lost his sources during the regime change he didn’t have anything to repeat other than the same old tired talking points.

He does a radio show Saturdays in Seattle and over the past couple of weeks has been saying Denver’s definitely back in the playoff hunt. I don’t recall any retractions of earlier comments though.

by xteve on Oct 25, 2009 12:34 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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