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QB Stats Comparison

I wanted to make a friendly statistical comparison.  We've been told by the MSM that Orton and Cutler will be forever linked, whatever that means.  However, I also threw in our closest competitor in our division and an eventual HOF'er.

Philip Rivers

Yds=1787

Cmp%=59.2

TD=10

Int=3

Rat=96.1

Y/C=14.2

Kyle Orton

Yds=1465

Cmp%=63.9

TD=9

Int=1

Rat=100.1

Y/C=11.8

Jay Cutler

Yds=1452

Cmp%=65.1

TD=10

Rat=82.9

Y/C=10.7

Peyton Manning

Yds=1880

Cmp%=72.6

TD=15

Rat=114.5

Y/C=12.1

As you can see, Orton's in the middle of a Pro-Bowl Season.  I think the most dramatic number is the difference in interceptions between Orton, Cutler, and even Rivers.  I believe that when McDaniels was working through the Cutler debacle, he saw the same numbers and results we've seen and knew he couldn't win with a quarterback who threw 10 INT's in just 6 games.  In addition, Cutler has thrown for virtually the same yards.  Orton actually has him beat by an entire yd/catch.  You also have to take into consideration Orton's finger injury.  Look what happened when Cutler injured his finger last year compared to Orton's dramatic finger dislocation this year.  Had that not occurred, I can't help but think these numbers would leave even Rivers in the dust.  Right now, Orton is most definitely competing with Rivers and certainly besting Cutler.  I can't wait to see what the rest of the season holds for our team.  If Cutler continues to average roughly 1.5 INT/Game, his stats will be terrible this year.  If Orton continues to throw the ball consistently on-time, on-target, and out of trouble, he will rank as one of the best QB's in the league for this season.  He'll be right up there with another Boilermaker in Drew Brees...why hasn't the media tied Brees and Rivers together for eternity???  We have every reason to believe he's going to become our franchise QB.  Only time will tell.  Let's GO Broncos...beat the Ravens!!!!!




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nice report

I was getting ready to do something similar after seeing all the man-love being dished Carson Palmer’s way by a couple of sportswriters. One article was titled “Palmer Can’t Be Stopped.”

I found myself thinking, but we stopped him. :D

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by BShrout on Oct 30, 2009 12:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice...

very nice observation! Yes, we indeed stopped him

by CyberSpartacus on Oct 30, 2009 3:34 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

Orton as a Pro Bowl QB for the AFC in 2009 is still debateable. Peyton Manning certainly locks down one spot and Big Ben likely has another. I still think Brady will continue to improve as more of the rust comes off and he regains confidence in his knee. If those aren’t the three guys elected to the Pro Bowl, I’d honestly be shocked. After those three, Orton is in a group with Rivers and Matt Schaub. Hey, there’s no shame in saying Kyle’s right up there in the top five…

"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999

by ejruiz on Oct 30, 2009 4:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Orton won't be a probowler if we go to the super bowl.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.

by kentuckybronco on Oct 30, 2009 5:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think the Super Bowl check

is bigger than the Pro Bowl check. At least after the endorsements.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Oct 30, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

But as (poor) consolation

If the Broncos don’t get to the Super Bowl, there will be an extra spot available for Orton.

by Velveeta on Oct 30, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

unexpected

I never thought K.O. would be this effective. I am a huge big 10 quarterback fan but his career in Chicago wasn’t impressive. I expected him to be a 1 or 2 year QB in Denver while someone new was drafted or groomed. However if he continues at this level of play I would not be surprised to see an extension because he fits this system well.

by JesseDForrer on Oct 31, 2009 7:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Your stats are incomplete

You don’t list Cutler’s INTs. The 10 TDs you show are actually his INTs. He has 11 TDs. You also don’t show Manning’s INTs. (He has 4.) Finally, I notice you’re listing yards per catch rather than the more usual yards per attempt. Is that deliberate? (Not saying it’s a bad choice, just a surprising one.) Cutler certainly suffers in comparison to Orton. He’s got 10.7 versus Orton’s 11.8 yards per catch and 6.9 versus Orton’s 7.6 yards per attempt, but the big discrepancy, which I doubt surprises any of us, is in their TD/INT ratios, 11-10 versus 9-1.

I was on Cleveland’s SBC site yesterday and there were a few Chicago fans there. At least one of them thinks Cutler’s way overrated and says he was never for the trade in the first place. But another professes to be really happy with him and offers the usual rationalizations, including the familiar one that sure he throws “some picks” but he’s trying to make plays, etc. What strikes me is that last year Orton, behind a pass-blocking line that was probably slightly worse than the one Cutler’s working behind now, had a TD to INT ratio of 18-12, slightly better (1.5 vs. 1.39) than Cutler’s 25-18. So Kyle, working with a grossly inferior line and set of receivers, had a TD/INT ratio that was as good as Jay’s, and now that the situation is reversed has a dramatically better one, 9-1 versus 11-10.

When you compare how each has done with equivalent resources Orton is clearly the more effective QB, yet the guy argued Cutler’s doing good considering the line and receivers and mediocre defense Chicago has, that they’d be 1-5 without him. (Guess he’s assuming Orton would have thrown multiple picks against Green Bay and Atlanta, too.) Strange that fans like him didn’t excuse Orton when he was dealing with exactly the same situation, only more effectively. Excuses follow Cutler around like a cloud of flies. His fans are so mesmerized by
his physical skills they can’t see the bottom line.

"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.

by spock on Nov 1, 2009 7:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs


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