Horse Tracks 10/31/09 - Broncos at full health heading to Baltimore

DB - Week 8 - Fri: McDaniels - Broncos TV
NFLN - Elvis Dumervil interview - Video
DP - Broncos practice moves outdoors - Mike Klis
"We want to work some on the kicking game in some bad conditions," said Broncos coach Josh McDaniels. "I know it may be windy and there's a possibility of rain in Baltimore. So we wanted to make sure we get out there and work in the cooler temperatures and just handle the ball and do the things that are going to be important on Sunday."
DPP - Broncos hit road with healthy squad - Lindsay Jones
"Assuming no player suffers a setback between this morning, when the team leaves for Baltimore, and kickoff Sunday, the Broncos will have no players inactive because of injury for the first time all season."
DPP - Analysis: Broncos center Wiegmann a true ironman - Jeff Legwold
Casey Wiegmann is about to make his 134th consecutive start.
DPP - Q&A: Who's preferable as a holder for field goals - the punter or backup quarterback? - Jeff Legwold
I used to think it was the QB to give you a chance on broken plays or fakes, but now I prefer the punter, who has all week to practice holding. Then again, if Chris Simms could get it down like Kubes did on the horrid snap at the end of The Drive II...
SI - Denver Broncos at Baltimore Ravens - Jim Trotter
FOX - Fearless Prediction: Broncos (6-0) at Ravens (3-3) - Sports Xchange
DB - A Valuable Commodity - Zach Eisendrath
Russ Hochstein and his versatility.
DB - Marshall Ready To Rival Ravens Attack - Chris Gentilviso
"After limited participation in Thursday’s practice, Ronald Fields (hamstring) and Brian Dawkins (hamstring) were both full participants in Friday’s practice."
DB - Week 8 - Fri: Marshall - Broncos TV
DB - A Few Minutes With Tony Scheffler - Broncos TV
DPP - Ravens' QB Flacco proves he's a player - Jeff Legwold
DPP - Spotlight: Tony Scheffler - Lindsay Jones
CSG - Schedule will continue to test Broncos - Frank Schwab
CSG - Broncos' Dumervil says he's not worried about free agency - Frank Schwab
KDVR - Broncos vs. Ravens: Troy Aikman says... - Chris Tanaka
DB - Photo gallery of costumed players from Friday's practice
NFP - Sack differential: a key statistic - Joe Fortenbaugh
Ravens News
BS - Fast start key to happy finish - Ken Murray
BS - Ravens vs. Broncos: 3 things that could go wrong - Jamison Hensley
BS - Rolle warns about sticking your neck out - Mike Preston
BS - Week 8: Who is picking the Ravens?
AFC West News
ESPN - AFC West: Final Word - Bill Williamson
SN - Yes, Peter Schaffer, Gay Slurs Are Offensive - Michael Tunison
Wow, LJ's agent is either REALLY dumb, or thinks everyone else is...
KCS - Chiefs can learn from LJ’s mistakes - Kent Babb
SDUT - Burnett out, injury list short - Kevin Acee
SFC - Why bother passing? You can run all day - David White
OT - Inman: Davis could learn a thing or two from the Boss
OT - Raiders notebook: Will Huff's return to starting lineup last? - Steve Corkran
NFL News
AP - Jim Brown shares lessons with college athletes
NFL - Goodell to testify about case on Vikings' suspensions
NFL - Schwartz: Stafford, Johnson have made progress from knee injuries
NFL - Wayne, Freeney questionable for Colts, but expected to play
NFL - Texans WR Johnson "ready to go" against Bills
NFL - Westbrook a game-time decision as he recovers from concussion
NFL - Trufant, Hill to rejoin Seahawks Sunday in Dallas
NFL Opinion
NFP - Diner morning news: a month of questions - Mike Lombardi
NFL - Saints might have provided blueprint to taming the Wildcat
NFP - The difficult parting of Favre and the Packers - Andrew Brandt
ESPN - 10 Spot: Too much Favre passing? - Adam Schefter
"Upset of the week: Denver over Baltimore -- all season, the Broncos have done everything people said they couldn't."
SI - Ryan Longwell knows fraction of Brett Favre's feelings - Peter King
Y! - Favre rematch may be worthy of personal top 10 - Mike Silver
UGH. Silver puts the game that started the end of TD's career and its aftermath as one of the most memorable experiences of his career.
SI - NFL Week 8 guide, including Vikings-Packers, Giants-Eagles - Ross Tucker
CBS - Peek at the Week: Rodgers can beat Favre ... if he gets protection - Clark Judge
"Basically, the Ravens must play a near-perfect game to win. They can't afford any gaffes, and they must force an opponent that doesn't turn the ball over to turn it over."
SN - Week 8: Ten bold predictions - RealScouts
The Bills in the playoffs? Are they joking?
NYT - Week 8 N.F.L. Matchups - Mike Tanier
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Thanks, Doug.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 31, 2009 7:55 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug...
60% of people are picking the Ravens….very interesting!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 31, 2009 8:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug.
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Oct 31, 2009 8:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug Nyc!
The Dawkins in my head is jumping up and down:
What do you do when their QB’s gonna throw the ball and there’s not enough DOOM in his face? You GIVE IT!! GIVE IT!! GIVE IT Doggone it!!
Sunday’s going to be fun
by McgarnagleDB on Oct 31, 2009 8:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Oct 31, 2009 8:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug
From Trotter:
My head says go with the Broncos, but my gut says take the desperate team. So I’m going Ravens 24, Broncos 20.
San Diego was playing desperate, too, Jim. ; )
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Oct 31, 2009 9:06 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Oct 31, 2009 9:48 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff as always
“Desperate” is so over-played. “Desperate” teams lose all the time. Keep picking against this team, I love it.
And yeah, Schaffer, I mean child please. Do you really expect anyone to buy that stuff? That’s akin to the 8 year old really thinking that the “dog ate my homework” story is original and will work.
Are ya kidding me?? THAT’S the story you’re going with? Bwahahahahahaha, good luck with that.
Thanks Doug!
by AllBroncsallday on Oct 31, 2009 9:48 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
Why do teams get desperate? Because they don’t win consistently.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 31, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMFG the Halloween costume photos are not to be missed!!!
LOLOLOL They’re AWESOME!!!
Wow. This year’s team is slowly becoming one of my favorite Broncos teams of all time.
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by broncosmontana on Oct 31, 2009 9:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
What a lot of reporters have missed
is that these guys seems to like each other and enjoy playing the game. Those who have never played or coached cannot understand what a boost that gives to a team.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Oct 31, 2009 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta head over to DB.com
And watch the Matchup: Broncos at Ravens video. At the end of the video it has them dancing to Triller w/ Knowshon is doing Michael Jackson.
Funny Funny Funny….
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Oct 31, 2009 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thoughts on the kick holder
I prefer the back-up QB, just for the fact he will generally be more athletic and have an ability to run a fake or at least force the defense to respect a fake.
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"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
by Broncoman on Oct 31, 2009 10:49 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting to note that Orton has played against the Ravens
and beat them 10-6 with a TD pass. In his rookie year (2005) Orton completed 15 of 29 passes for a defensive type game win.
by bfree2bronc on Oct 31, 2009 11:12 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
funny his comments re: that game
i didnt know he won… by how he talked about them it seemed they molleywhomped him.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by denver_diaspora on Oct 31, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed DD...sounds like he got it handed to him....and he still won!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Oct 31, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Klis
The Broncos beat writers are no longer allowed to pick the Denver games for the Sunday paper. Evidently, too many of them had been picking against the Broncos, and the sports editor decided that the credibility of the writers was being called into question.
Klis also said that the DPP will soon be moving to a pay-for-content model. So if you want your Bronco news online, you’ll have to pay for it — much as you’d pay for a subscription to the dead tree version of the Post.
Newspapers are dead. John B — I say you move quickly and apply for Broncos press passes. If sports talk radio guys can get passes, surely a few members from the biggest Bronco fan site on the web can get them. I live in town and would be happy to do cover the team.
by JeffG on Oct 31, 2009 12:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
The Post is making very foolish moves.
Now they want to charge for content that is in decline. That will drive views even lower. In the meantime, the modern media (blog based net) is ascending.
Here’s a clue Post; be fair and down the middle covering the local team – but attack that team and resort to cheap shots at your own peril. That’s how you sink the ship for your sports pages.
Here’s the problem. The Post writers make the mistake of reading the filth that is in their message boards and e-mails. Then they write to play to that crowd. That crowd doesn’t pay for anything, and isn’t too bright either. If you want an educated and classy base of readers, follow the MHR model. Call everything straight, but don’t make personal attacks against the home team then try to get back on board when the team proves you wrong.
I love the MHR readers. They write their own posts that are often times much, much better than the old media does, and when they converse under a story, they write with intelligence and in a friendly manner. Those idots who coe from the Post boards (we recognize their brand of behavior) don’t last long in the light.
BTW, John is ahead of the curve. He has had press passes (ie the draft), and stays on good terms with the Broncos without kissing up. While the old media insults the Broncos and wonders why their access went down, John writes the good and the bad (but always in a respectful tone), and gets the prize.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 31, 2009 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The DP content when down in flames the moment they hired Bill Williamson. They gave someone with no ability Sheftler’s old job? That is like going from Lexus to a unicycle.
Having a baseball like like Klis as your #1 NFL writer also makes no sense. The DP has been in steep decline years before McDaniels was our HC.
And Jeff G is right. Newspapers are a dying industry.
This is my favorite website.
by McGeorge on Oct 31, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
From a Lexus to a unicycle with one flat flabby tire that never leans too much to one side or the other for fear of being wrong about gravity.
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by broncosmontana on Oct 31, 2009 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't read a real newspaper in over a year
I always preferred the RMN over the Post. Never cared for their form of “Journalism”.
MHR for my Broncos News
The Stiff for my Nuggets News
SE Asia Times, WSJ Online, and a few blogs for News.
Make those miracles happen - Jon Keyworth
by IgorBStrange on Nov 1, 2009 12:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit that I didn't consider the obvious point...
We use a punter to hold because he is available in practice, while the QB is practicing elsewhere almost non-stop. Makes sense! (Special teams never cease to mystify me). lol
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 31, 2009 12:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I was under the impression
That Josh was going to use Chris Simms to hold. That way if there was a bad snap, he would already be in position to throw, being a lefty and all. It just seemed to be a logical assumption for a man prone to details.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Oct 31, 2009 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
based on what Berger said in an interview, I think Berger would be holding
A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.
by Todd Jewell on Oct 31, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's what I saw
Makes sense; Berger’s been holding for many years.
formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan
by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 31, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I meant
when Simms was signed in the offseason. Sorry for not clarifying that. It just seemed like something minute that Jish would think of , that’s all.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Oct 31, 2009 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Desperate teams
I know this point has been made several times, but most desperate teams are desperate because they just are not very good. Sure, B-More may be “better than its record” (I hate that saying, BTW), and I’m sure the Ravens will be desperate to win this game. However, a partial list of other teams “desperate for a win”:
Rams
Browns
Lions
Titans
Would anyone pick any of those teams to win against a 6-0 team with the best Defense in football? If so, would they do it with a straight face?
by ncm42 on Oct 31, 2009 12:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
…in fairness, Baltimore did lose on the last play to Cincy; had a dropped ball by Clayton that probably would have led to a victory over NE; and missed a 44-yard FG that would have beaten Minnesota.
They are what their record says they are, true; but their record says they’ve lost some games to very good teams that they just as easily could have won.
I’m surprised by the 1/2 pt tacked to the 3 pt spread. Baltimore at home after a bye vs. a team traveling to the east coast for an early game may make the Ravens a favorite, but not by more than a field goal…
by JeffG on Oct 31, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but that's what separates the wheat from the chaff...
A 3-3 team that lost close games to good teams is certainly a foe to take seriously (as they all are), but it still baffles me that a 6-0 team that has found ways to WIN those close games — the hallmark of a truly good team — is still the underdog!
by ncm42 on Nov 1, 2009 9:05 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
only one more day
longest bye week ever!
by trumanj on Oct 31, 2009 1:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm........
“Basically, the Ravens must play a near-perfect game to win. They can’t afford any gaffes, and they must force an opponent that doesn’t turn the ball over to turn it over.”
Moreno better carry the ball damned well tomorrow, because the Ravens, no matter who’s playing for them, will always hit the carrier hard and will attempt to force fumbles, and Moreno has been somewhat prone to them. Turnover doesn’t particularly mean make Orton throw interceptions like Cutler used to.
Impossible not to have positive thoughts.
I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.
by bballrox4717 on Oct 31, 2009 2:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great point
Moreno’s fumbling tendencies really worry me. They have been pretty harmless to this point, but I’m afraid they are going to cost the team at some point this season if he doesn’t get it under control…
by ncm42 on Oct 31, 2009 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clinton Portis was a fumbler early in his career as well
I definitely feel ya, but personally I’m not gonna worry too much until it costs us. He did fine against San Diego on their own field, a team that is coached to strip on virtually every play. Two fumbles in six games from a rookie isn’t necessarily predictive of future results — especially when you’re being coached by Bobby Turner. So don’t worry too much about Know — he’ll be fine. : )
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by broncosmontana on Oct 31, 2009 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Desperate teams and must win situations
I propose a fine to be levied on sportswriters/pundits/whatever the hell they do for mentioning those two things from here onwards. It’s beyond cliche, it has no relevance whatsoever to predicting a game, and it’s simply a weak argument. Please do more research rather than rely on cliches, k thx bye.
by RockyMountainHigh on Oct 31, 2009 5:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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