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Horse Tracks 10/5/09 - Broncos 4-0 with 2-game lead after beating Cowboys; Buckhalter sprains ankle

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Okay, folks. NOW are the Broncos for real? No matter what happens from here on out, last year and the past are gone. This is a better team, still rising and with a brilliant future under the direction of Josh McDaniels. You heard it here that the Brandon Marshall situation was overcooked and now he's making plays and literally embracing the coach. Yes, it already seems the story is more about what's wrong in Dallas, but this Broncos team is a contender. Correll Buckhalter is on crutches after spraining his left ankle, while Brandon Stokley left the game early. Bring on the Pats!

NFL Videos - Broncos 17, Cowboys 10
Highlights with radio calls of the Broncos 17-10 victory over the Cowboys

Box Score - Dallas Cowboys 10 at Denver Broncos 17

DB - Cowboys Postgame: Report - Broncos TV

DB - Cowboys Postgame: McDaniels - Broncos TV

DB - Cowboys Postgame: Orton - Broncos TV

DB - Cowboys Postgame: Marshall - Broncos TV

UPDATE 11AM ETY! - Broncos turn unimaginable into reality - Mike Silver
Silver shares some eye-opening quotes from Vonnie Holliday and D.J. Williams, who were both skeptical about Josh McDaniels' handling of the offseason and the Broncos' prospects this year. 

Star-divide

DB - Not In His Corner - Chris Gentilviso

DB - Finding a Way - Gray Caldwell

INDT - Broncos: Baby TO grew up - Hunter Ansley
"When the media is adamant that the first round pick you traded to Seattle will end up becoming the first overall pick, just keep playing."

DPP - Broncos are now a fab 4-0 - Mike Klis

DPP - Krieger: This defense could be Broncos' signature act

DPP - Kiszla: Josh McDaniels, Brandon Marshall have success in their embrace
"So, how do you like your Broncos now? This team does not get down on itself. If you miss the pouty lower lip of last year's team in Denver, then catch the next commercial flight to O'Hare Airport."

DPP - Armstrong: For Broncos, the big play finally arrives

DPP - Cowboys' QB Romo miscalculates regarding Broncos' Champ Bailey - Lindsay Jones

DPP - Broncos' QB Kyle Orton has a knack for winning - Mike Klis

DPP - Denver Broncos' defense digs in again - Jeff Legwold

DPP - Extra points: Bests and worsts - Lindsay Jones

DPP - Briefs: Sprained ankle ends Buckhalter's productive day

CSG - Denver tops Dallas, improves to 4-0 - Frank Schwab

CSG - Broncos notes: Bailey upholds challenges - Frank Schwab

CSG - Opinion: Imagination, and Brandon Marshall's talent, would be terrible to waste - David Ramsey

AP - Brandon Marshall's Miracle TD Keeps Denver Broncos Perfect - Arnie Stapleton

PFW - McDaniels has Broncos moving up - Mike Holbrook

ESPN - Broncos are putting the 'D' back into Denver - Bill Williamson

FOX - Surprise, surprise: Broncos really are better team - Jimmy Johnson
"They proved Sunday that they are a much better team than anybody gave them credit for. "

NFL GameDay - Cowboys vs. Broncos highlights
Eisen, Deion and Playmaker

Cowboys: The Losing Perspective

DMN - An early fall: Dallas Cowboys' 17-10 loss a bad sign - Jean-Jacques Taylor

DMN - Game gets away from Dallas Cowboys in 17-10 loss - David Moore

DMN - Dallas Cowboys' offense bridled by Broncos in 17-10 loss - Kevin Sherrington

DMN - Dallas Cowboys' Brooking: 'We've got to be desperate' - Brandon George

DMN - Offensive failures increase in Dallas Cowboys' 17-10 loss - Bill Nichols

DMN - Dallas Cowboys' Newman claims he was grabbed on big play - Brandon George

DMN - Cowboys-Broncos notebook

DMN - Cowboys-Broncos grades - David Moore

ST - Cowboys fizzle against Broncos - Clarence Hill

ST - Cowboys need the real Romo before it’s too late - Jim Reeves

ST - Dallas Cowboys have bigger problem than offense or defense - Jennifer Floyd Engel

ST - Going deep is going nowhere fast for Dallas Cowboys - Jeff Caplan

ST - Coach Wade's Cowboys play same mediocre tune - Jennifer Floyd Engel

ST - Cowboys defense was one big play away from a win - Charean WIlliams

ESPN - Cowboys lower expectations with Mile High loss - Matt Mosley

NFL Results

NFL - San Diego Chargers 28 at Pittsburgh Steelers 38

NFL - New York Giants 27 at Kansas City Chiefs 16

NFL - Oakland Raiders 6 at Houston Texans 29

NFL - Detroit Lions 24 at Chicago Bears 48

NFL - Cincinnati Bengals 23 at Cleveland Browns 20

NFL - Seattle Seahawks 17 at Indianapolis Colts 34

NFL - Tennessee Titans 17 at Jacksonville Jaguars 37

NFL - Baltimore Ravens 21 at New England Patriots 27

NFL - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 at Washington Redskins 13

NFL - Buffalo Bills 10 at Miami Dolphins 38

NFL - New York Jets 10 at New Orleans Saints 24

NFL - St. Louis Rams 0 at San Francisco 49ers 35

AFC West News

SDUT - It's the Pitts - Kevin Acee

SDUT - Plenty to worry about in Chargersville - Tim Sullivan

SDUT - Almost everything went wrong - Kevin Acee

SDUT - Tomlinson rushes for 15 yards, but 'felt pretty good' - Kevin Acee & Tod Leonard

SDUT - Flustered fans to Terrible Towel - Tod Leonard

SDUT - Tim Sullivan grades the Chargers - Tim Sullivan

CBS - Trampled Chargers must fix defense fast - Clark Judge

KCS - Chiefs offense struggles once again in a 27-16 loss to the Giants - Kent Babb

KCS - Chiefs’ play is scaring the wrong people - Jason Whitlock

KCS - LJ says ‘ego’ is the difference in loss to Giants - Adam Teicher

KCS - Chiefs blitz | Giants QB Manning injures foot

KCS - Chiefs buzz | Ryan is catching on at tight end - Kent Babb

KCS - Grading the Chiefs - Adam Teicher

SFC - Raiders fall quietly in Houston, 29-6 - David White

SFC - Ch-ch-changes? Davis won't take this kind of play for long - Scott Ostler

SFC - Beat: Higgins held back - David White

Y! - Source: Cable's potential legal issues a concern - Jason Cole

OT - Report: Cable will meet with Goodell - Steve Corkran

OT - Punchless Raiders spiraling downward - Steve Corkran

OT - Inman: Raiders are lacking leadership, as well as offense

OT - Raiders' grades - Steve Corkran

OT - Raiders search for consistency - Steve Corkran

NFL News

NFL - Lions examining if rookie QB Stafford has dislocated right kneecap

NFL - Seau, Patriots haven’t talked since last week

NFL - X-rays negative on Ravens LT Gaither after he's injured in collision

NFL - Giants QB Manning pulled from game vs. Chiefs with bruised heel

NFL - AP source: Dolphins QB Pennington should be able to play in 2010

NFL Opinion

NFP - Sunday rewind: Week 4 - Matt Bowen
"Denver is for real"

Y! - Addition by subtraction for Colts offense - Charles Robinson
"The 3-0 start was one thing, but Sunday’s win over the Cowboys – moving the Broncos to 4-0 – shows that Denver is a legitimate playoff candidate in the AFC."

UPDATE 10AM ETSI - Jerry Reese, Sean Payton, Josh McDaniels at helm of quick starts  - Peter King
PK calls the Broncos the "feel-good story of the year" and ranks them #5 in his Fine Fifteen. Plus, player of the week awards to The Beast and The Champ.

ESPN - Last Call: Wrapping up Week 4 - John Clayton
"Broncos are no fluke: The Broncos are for real...Welcome back to the playoff race, Denver. " John Clayton has apparently granted the Broncos a chance at contention now?

NFL - Patriots assume their usual role of Super Bowl contenders - Vic Carucci

SN - Patriots' warning: 'We're coming together' - Albert Breer

NYT - Hitting Their Stride, Patriots Slip Past Ravens - Judy Battista

ESPN - Brady on the run means Patriots are back - Tim Graham

NFL - Saints show they should be considered among the NFL's best - Steve Wyche

NFL - Broncos' defensive effort should help quiet some skeptics - Bucky Brooks

Y! - Titans' struggles begs question of Young's status - Jason Cole

SN - Week 4 Checkdown: Giants, Saints, Colts emerge from pack - Vinnie Iyer

SI - Titans need QB change, the gutty Pats, plus more - Don Banks

SI - Saints' defense steals show against Jets - Don Banks

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Yer thanks..

You do a great job.. much appreciated.

Unfortunately i have to wait until mid day to get your early morning links.. but it is always worth the wait!

by HorseStance on Oct 5, 2009 6:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks nyc, Yes, The Broncos are for real...

Go Broncos

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Oct 5, 2009 6:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha...I love Dave Logan

Dave Logan’s call during the aftermath of Marshall’s TD was priceless -

“Brandon Marshall…welcome back Big Boy!”

by maximus1212 on Oct 5, 2009 6:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

one of his best calls ever!

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do yourselves a favor and don't listen to sport talk radio this morning

Les Shapiro: …the defense is decent, but Orton is not very good. Their schedule is filled with “elite” teams and they aren’t one. So while the Broncos may be good, they can’t beat teams like the Giants, the Patriots, the Colts, the Ravens, the Steelers, the Eagles, or the Chargers.

by JeffG on Oct 5, 2009 7:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

follow up query

Why is it that so many of the “Denver” sports talk personalities are from Chicago?

by JeffG on Oct 5, 2009 7:28 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there a good media/journalism school out there?

I kind of though Northwestern… but I might just be making that up.

by legendarywalton on Oct 5, 2009 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's where Mike Greenburg went.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by kentuckybronco on Oct 5, 2009 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Northwestern is kind of the top journalism school in the country. That or Missouri.

Lots of people from Colorado are from the Midwest. They like the part where it’s sunny in January, February, March and April.

by Chibronx on Oct 5, 2009 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

shhhhh

We’re trying to keep that a secret! ;)

by AllBroncsallday on Oct 5, 2009 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott van Pelt today said

“I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong about the Broncos.” He and Ryan Rusillo said they weren’t sure yet that we’re a “great team” (which I completely agree with right now), but Rusillo picked us as the team that impressed him the most.

MSM is finally starting to catch on. As for the Giants Patriots Colts Ravens Steelers and Chargers… only time will tell.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not the first though

Kizla was…he said so last week. I gave him credit for it too which he posted this week in his email answers.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 5, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good for Kiz!

Maybe now he’ll stop calling our esteemed HC “McKid.” I might actually read him again if he’d do that much.

I’ve heard from a few others as well. The tide is turning guys. But ultimately, we’re getting the Ws which is all that really matters.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Romo will be seeing Champ Bailey in his sleep for some time now.

by DickVMI on Oct 5, 2009 7:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Roy Williams will be seeing DJ in his sleep for some time now.

He better get a bucket so that he doesn’t have to vomit pieces of his kidneys into the toilet.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by kentuckybronco on Oct 5, 2009 7:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

from DMN...Priceless!
Williams, who injured his ribs and had to leave the game, knows that window. It was the windshield on the SUV that ran him over in the fourth quarter. I didn’t get the license number.

“Never in my life,” he croaked in the locker room afterward, “have I been hit like that.”

That’s why it’s called the CRUSH!!

by BFF46350 on Oct 5, 2009 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will be seeing DJ in the mirror

in bas relief in the huge indentation DJ left in what’s left of his body. ^^

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

Why is every long TD pass a miracle when it’s Orton who is throwing it? That BMarsh TD was not a miracle play…it just wasn’t. I don’t get that.

Bring on the Pats!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Oct 5, 2009 7:28 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Huge +1

What the hell? That was no miracle. That was Kyle putting the ball where Brandon could catch it, and Brandon working his ass off to score. Even if he hadn’t, the offense was moving the ball and had well over a minute to work with. To think they ‘won on a miracle play’ again is just plain crap. Ugh.

Good on you for calling bull****, Zappa.

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aikman said it was bad tackling… But what is really was is this: a superior player showing off his talent vs an inferior opponent. BM is simply a better player than anyone in the Cowboys secondary. It showed on that play.

As someone that now lives outside of CO, I’ve come to expect this for several teams that don’t play on the east coast or a major market like Dallas or Chicago. Hell.. Ryan Clady is the best O-linemen in the NFL and if you watched an ESPN or Fox Sports outside of Denver, I don’t think the MSM even knows he plays pro football.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great comments, McG.

I heard someone (was it Aikman?) call Clady “one of the best, if not the best young tackles in the league”. Paraphrased, but it was yesterday. I had 2 young kids and a wife who has 0 interest in football ‘distracting’ me during the game, so I’m not sure what was said. I was shocked to hear it. He’s not getting near the love he deserves. He’d better be an all-pro this year. Pro-bowl would be nice, too.

As far as bad tackling, that’s crap. You have to actually get a hand on the guy to call it bad tackling. This was pure lolly-gagging, and Marshall wanting it more. Hell, after the play, he looked like he wanted it more than anything in the world. I’m starting to get the feeling that Brandon has been doubting himself, and needed that play to show to everyone — #15 included — that he is still the same Beast that we’ve all grown to love in Orange and Blue.

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have never seen a WR make a group of NFL players look like that.

It was like watching the kid who got held back a year run all over the field. I forgot why Brandon keeps asking for money…. that’s the answer right there.

by legendarywalton on Oct 5, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100

Marshall made those guys look like children. It was no friggin miracle…it was a superb play made by a BEAST…and credit Graham for his blocking downfield…Marshall wouldn’t have made it to the end zone without the escort.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 5, 2009 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

True That about Graham

and I love that Marshall gave him props, too!

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was an amazing play by marshall

But personally I thought we scored to quick. I wish Dallas could have tackled him on the 1 yard line so we could eat more time and then score.

The last minute of the game I kept having Santonio Holmes superbowl flashbacks. Fortunately Romo is too stupid to know not to throw to champ twice in a row.

by trumanj on Oct 5, 2009 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered that myself

Would we have been better off having Marshall take a knee at the 1? We could have had Orton take a knee 3 times, then let Prater kick a Field goal and given Dallas the ball back with 30 seconds and no timeouts.
It was the right call, though. As it was, we gave our defense a 7 point lead. Even if they hadn’t held on the goal line stand (after Dallas’ miracle play, mind you), it just would have gone to overtime. In that game, I would have liked our chances in OT.

Mike Nolan is my hero.

by jack_ on Oct 5, 2009 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

it’s too hard to make that choice with that much time left anyway, and given the Broncos have had problems punching it in in the red zone you have to take the touchdown any way, and any time, you can get it.

What Stokley did in the Cincy game was amazingly smart but it also happened at the very end of the game.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 5, 2009 6:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Peter King just called us the feel good story of the year!

and floated this interesting little tidbit.

Now let’s do a mini-analysis of the biggest decision of the off-season, Denver dealing Cutler for two first-rounders and Kyle Orton. It reminds me of the Patriots dealing Drew Bledsoe in 2002 and handing the quarterback job long-term to Tom Brady. Bledsoe, the independent-thinking mad bomber; Brady, the caretaker who’ll follow the gameplan to a T. Just substitute Cutler for Bledsoe and Kyle Orton for Brady and you’ve got McDaniels’ line of thinking. Now, I’m not saying (and McDaniels wouldn’t either) that Orton’s going to morph into Brady, but the amount of negative plays at the quarterback position has been exactly what McDaniels has preached: zero interceptions, zero lost fumbles, six sacks. If Orton continues on his present pace — 3,624 passing yards, 20 touchdowns, 59 percent passing (that should be a tick better) — the Broncos will be playing in January.

True. We have a long way to go, but we’re moving in the right direction, one game at a time.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orton is no Brady, but Cutler isn’t Bledoe, either (who at least saw the postseason). Otherwise, an interesting comparison. I never thought about “the trade” like that before.

Agreed. We are on a good path. One game at a time.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 12:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clayton

Finally eating some crow….though I’m sure he won’t full on admit it, but he sure did change the tune of his song drastically from last week. “Denver will not be a contender this year”….now “Denver is a serious player in the AFC” HAHAHAH I LOVE IT. Keep under-rating us PLEASE!!!!

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Oct 5, 2009 7:42 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

CLAYTON IS A TOOL

But thankfully the Broncos are now for real…but only because he said so. Thanks John, for giving the Broncos, their coach, and even the entire community of Denver legitimacy with your Almighty Word.

Why, do you think they’ll start putting Denver on maps again, now that John Clayton is impressed with us?

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Oct 5, 2009 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about that one

If the “Professor” deems us worthy, Denver might just become another International Airport hub…………..oh…..right……..DIA anyone? rofl.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Oct 5, 2009 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Oct 5, 2009 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

But you know, I can’t fault him for getting things right all of a sudden. ; )

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by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks nyc

I know McDaniels is a hard man and all. But after everything that guy had to go through this off season it really is good to see him come through on the other side. Whether you believed in him or not, you’ve got to admire the way he stuck to what he believed in under massive pressure.

Good to see a press conference like that. Good to be a Bronco fan today.

"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams

by orange&blue_aussie on Oct 5, 2009 7:52 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

The arrogance of Cowboyville and its media enablers today is staggering. Reading Jean-Jacques Taylor and Todd Archer, you’d think that Dallas just stomped on us all day and then casually gave the game away on a lucky play or two.

by Remember Keith Kartz! on Oct 5, 2009 7:53 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

I’m glad Dallas gifted us that game. Did you hear that Romo has gone two games without throwing a TD? What was he thinking? Must’ve forgotten or something. Had nothing to do with Champ schooling his ass, or DJ nearly killing his best WR, or his best receiving weapon having to spend the day pass protecting to keep Flozell Adams from looking like an inept fat old man.

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Flozell is good...

But I’ve watched him the last three weeks, and he just could not deal with our pass rush. I think that bodes VERY well for us going forward. Even with all of the media hype over that guy, you can’t deny that he has some level of talent, and we made him look washed up.

by legendarywalton on Oct 5, 2009 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

If we can get 5 sacks against an offensive line like the cowboys, we’re in good shape. Many were saying that the boys have the best line in all of football and we just made them look like a pop warner line.

Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away

by kentuckybronco on Oct 5, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

That Cowboy line is solid. Our defense played well against them

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 5, 2009 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

was a great test, and they did well.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doom said it

He practices against Ryan Clady everyday, you can see that both are improving from that work!

by Copley on Oct 5, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't really have an answer for Doom

That low center of gravity really paid off on that amazing sack. Beautiful.

Dallas will try to spin it all they can because they’re embarrassed. They should be. But the better team won yesterday. Period.

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know!

It’s crazy to think we are 4-0 without our offense evening having their big “breakout” game yet.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Nyc

The Broncos are 4-0. It is what it is. Now it’s time for the Rebel Alliance to take on the Evil Empire.

"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Breaking jaws or the NFL in Oakland who cares? Fall on your pirate’s sword - Ponderosa

by KaptainKirk on Oct 5, 2009 8:12 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No worries....

The FORCE is strong with this team.

"as in football so in life"

by asinsoin on Oct 5, 2009 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

just so long as

Belichick doesn’t cut off Josh’s hand, we’ll be okay. :-P

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

ROFL

+1

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Oct 5, 2009 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"No matter how far a Jackass travels it will never come back a horse"

by SpaceCowboyInLG on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for all the hard work, NYC

You make it so that lazy bums like me can loaf through the day and still get news. :)

By the way, why the hell does Jimmy Johnson get paid to write words together to form sentences? They don’t quite make it to complete thoughts. Maybe they should get him a ghost writer or something. Yuck. My 3-year-old could almost do a better job, if he dictated and I typed.

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:19 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

It might be a good idea to give Ryan Torain a call. He looked good in camp and could step in to give Moreno a breather.

I don’t think Buckhalter will be back for a few weeks with what looked like a pretty bad sprained ankle.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

They'll probably bring up Walker first

But they’d have to cut someone to make room. Bye-bye Jarvis?

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry BB

Saying the same thing. I’m on slow connection… saw yours come up after I’d pressed post…

"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams

by orange&blue_aussie on Oct 5, 2009 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's cool

:)

We’re on the same wave-length.

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

but who do you cut? Moss? Lloyd? Gorin? and Maybe Barrett. Moss most likely

"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams

by orange&blue_aussie on Oct 5, 2009 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way we cut any DBs

With Smith out, we’re down to 3 CB and 5 S. I don’t think we lose a WR, either. Top of my list would be Gorin and Moss.

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LLoyd. He can’t play special teams.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:27 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mentioned this last night

I think he’d fit in perfectly. And he’s better than Walker.

by JeffG on Oct 5, 2009 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they give the rock to Hillis again?

Might depend on if Larsen can play…

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hillis has to earn it first. Show up in practice. Right now, Hillis is not earning the carries on gameday.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will agree with that

He’s being very hard on himself for past mistakes, and it’s affecting his focus – further contributing to more mistakes. I hope he can just shake it off and break out of that cycle…he’s got the talent if he can just focus.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’ve said it elsewhere…I’m disappointed with Hillis so far this season. He’s got to prove it and make plays for us instead of costing us yards.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 5, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Eddie Royal and Hillis?

Did anyone else notice Royal dropped the pass on the play when Orton got nailed and the ref rightly called roughing the passer?

Thank goodness Wade wasted a TO early in the 3rd quarter and was in no position call for a challenge.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:30 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I see Eddie running his routes, but I’m wishing he was getting targetted more. He needs more reps to shake the rust off and get in sync with Orton. I think it’s hard on him, being subbed out so much this year. He was on the field all the time in ’08.

by BroncosBassist on Oct 5, 2009 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hillis and Royal have disappointed so far

Royal is also letting frustration show. He barks at the refs all the time and always looks disappointed after his punt returns. Eddie’s body language is not good at all right now. And the exact same can be said for Payton Hillis (but at least its obvious they both care).

Still, it is accurate to say both Royal and Hillis have both taken a step back. These two need to refocus and McDaniels/Orton need to find a way to get them the ball. We are winning games, but our O is a long ways a way from where it needs to be.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's okay

They’re 4-0 and outplaying their opponents every week, and we can very easily find players/areas which need a lot of improvement. That is a very good thing. We all know the Broncos have not yet peaked (not to say they definitely will this year, but still)…

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 5, 2009 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s only okay if Royal and Hillis regroup and reemerge. Those two are going to be kind of embarrassed in film session today. They’ve lost focus and spent too much time/energy jawing with at the refs on Sunday. Hillis, in particular, was guilty of a blatant block in the back.

They are both young players and it’s a good thing they have guys like Stokely and Dawkins to lean on. I expect a lot of improvement from those two and believe I’ll see it in the coming weeks.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We knew it would take the offense some time to gel

It’s a plus that we’re winning while they’re still coming together.

by JeffG on Oct 5, 2009 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how they seem to come together after halftime.

McD learns what the D is doing and adjusts his offense at halftime and they end up dominating the rest of the game. It’s what made the pats so good the last few years. They would start off fine, but then when they could see what the defense was actually doing against them, they found a way to counter it and win.

This defense is strong enough to keep the offense in the game until they can figure out what the opposition is doing.

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by kentuckybronco on Oct 5, 2009 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always said a coach makes his money at half time.

If you can toss your gameplan out the window and be focused enough to concoct a new plan and then get the players to execute? What else can you ask from a coach. I was really down on the Broncs’ in the first quarter… I just wanted to get to halftime, because for the first time in a long time, I knew we’d correct our mistakes.

That second half was a masterpiece on defense, and much, much improved on offense.

by legendarywalton on Oct 5, 2009 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Couldn't agree more.

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by kentuckybronco on Oct 5, 2009 9:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that too, yes.

I’m pretty sure Eddie dropped that pass, also. At the same time, it’s only a difference of 12 yards and there’s still a first down gained on the 15-yard roughing penalty. I agree that it was worth challenging, but even if it got overturned the Broncos were in good shape.

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 5, 2009 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Positive play for Denver either way. That ball hit the ground, but I’ll take 27 or 15 everytime.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Good Start

Denver has gotten off to a good start and should be very proud. Now comes some real challenges. Time will tell with injuries and the ability of older guys to last the season. Its nice to see some of the veteran Broncos making the difference.

Now on to my favorite game of the season, the Legacy game. I can’t wait to see those old uniforms.

by Baltimore Bronco on Oct 5, 2009 8:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

One side note

I am listening to ESPN the Herd, not sure who the guy was that was talking, and for about 20 minutes was just ripping Tony Romo and Wade Phillips. His best line was referring to Romo’s passes like he is spitting into the wind, you never know where it is going to go. I was rolling when I heard this….funny stuff.

Back to HT. Thanks NYC for the links as always. What an awesome game. Marshall comes up big, defense comes up big, and we now know that we can come back from being down 10-0 in the first quarter. It is so nice to have a defense that just steps up when the need to.

Romo should the nation why most QB throw away from Champ. Even after an INT, he goes to him with the game on the line……..DENIED, WE WIN.

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by weazel on Oct 5, 2009 8:47 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You have to wonder how Philly let Dawkins leave. That guy is an crazy animal on the field and it gets me so excited I feel like I could go out there and tackle Romo or Roy Williams.

I don’t know how you scout character, but it’s a worth its weight in gold and has had a profound positive impact on our team. I can see its rubbed off on DJ Williams.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 8:49 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

BDawl is great last line of defense

On Hurd’s big 4th down play, BDawk ran all the way across the field to chase him down…even pushing DJ out of the way to make the tackle. It’s a great comfort knowing he’s back there as the last line of defense, in addition to all the plays he makes near the line of scrimmage.

Can you imagine last year’s safeties on that play? They would’ve just waved bye-bye to Hurd as he ran by them to score.

by BuckarooBanzai on Oct 5, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was beautiful

Almost the play of the game

by Chibronx on Oct 5, 2009 9:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manuel would have tackled DJ Willams and McCree would have pulled a hamstring right after the snap.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL...

McG, you’re a funny guy when you’re not being contrary…

by BuckarooBanzai on Oct 5, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that, too

that was HUGE! And yeah, we don’t make that stop last year.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking about writing a post

On why we need to everything in our power to get Eric Berry. I see a lot of the same ability and leadership in that kid. If he doesn’t come out this year, we need him the following year, because Dawkins is starting a new tradition here, and let’s face it— he won’t be able to play like this for the duration of his contract.

That guys 36? I call BS. I need to see a birth certificate.

by legendarywalton on Oct 5, 2009 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but Eric Berry will be playing is NFL football in Tampa Bay, KC or St Louis next season.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks a ton NYC

Just think we are 4-0 and Royal and Hillis havent got going yet. Just wait until they do.

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Oct 5, 2009 8:52 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Crazy huh

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Oct 5, 2009 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Broncos

This is a good team because of the dominating defense. Get stuffed on a fourth down try, three and out by the defense. Gav up two big runsd back to back , then another three and out. Then a big play late and four stuffs inside the ten. That is great defense and that can take you a long way. Wait until the offense gets into a rhythm as the season goes along and they could be unstoppable. Look at teams like Baltimore of 2002, Tampa Bay of 2003, Dolphins of the 70’s, Cowboys of the 90’s. Dominate defense. Solid offense and a solid game manager at the quarterback spot. You don’t always need a gunslinger(ie… JayC) to be a great team. I love how the players are buying in to what JoshMac is selling. And to me it is exciting to have a defense that can win you games, not just all offense. Go Broncos

by postalmoose1 on Oct 5, 2009 8:53 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

UPDATES

For everyone who’s already been through the links, I’ve added Peter King and Mike Silver’s Monday columns. Silver’s is particularly revealing, with some interesting quotes from D.J. and Vonnie Holliday about their attitudes toward Josh McDaniels.

by Douglas A. Lee on Oct 5, 2009 9:03 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Very nice, thanks

I really liked the story about Holliday. He was honest, got his answers, and I am glad he is onboard.

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by weazel on Oct 5, 2009 9:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the bottom of the Silver article there is a comment about the broncos from...

… none other that Jay Cutler… here is what he txt in (see he can txt when he wants to.. lol)

"Those guys are playing well. Defense is carrying them. It’s a good scheme. 3-4 is tough if u do it right"
– Text Sunday night from Cutler, appreciating his former team’s triumph over the Cowboys.

I hope it isn’t just me.. but he comes across as an extremely arrogant guy.. He manages to turn what started out as a compliment to a backhanded snarky comment about the offense to bring it back round to focusing on himself again and how amazing he is because he has an ‘understanding’ of the 3-4 D.

Not sure if I read a little bit to much into that be it did annoy me reading it.. lol.. and i was able to watch the bears game on sunday without to much bias or longing for the lions sack count to keep rising steadily..

by HorseStance on Oct 5, 2009 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

cutler is an ass, and a career loser (so far)

maybe he should win some games before he puts himself in the HOF

by lolcopter on Oct 5, 2009 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Annoying

Cutler says “Defense is carrying them.” Horsehockey! The offense has to earn more points than the opponent. They have. End of story.

by Endzone on Oct 5, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool

At least Silver was big enough to admit he was wrong about a few things. Most sports writers just pretend they never said what they said and move on.

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Oct 5, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Silver and Clark Judge both admitted they were wrong and changed their tune with modesty. And honestly, criticizing or doubting the Broncos at the beginning of the season is fine, but just do it with an open mind and while being armed with some actual facts and information. Guys like John Clayton on the other hand are too arrogant to write stuff like Silver and Judge did, they’ll just dismiss the team even while begrudgingly giving them credit. Clayton has to give the Broncos permission for joining playoff race, as if they give a crap. Silver and Judge write like they’ve seen the light.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 5, 2009 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silver's was a great read!

It actually tells me how important winning right off the bat was to this team to reinforce to trust McD as the man with the plan and replace any lingering doubts in the minds of the players with brimming confidence.

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best stat:

Kyle Orton’s record at home: 17-2

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by weazel on Oct 5, 2009 9:04 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I got a better one for you.

Kyle Orton’s record at home as a bronco: 2-0. Undefeated.

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by kentuckybronco on Oct 5, 2009 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yet you come away feeling like he still can play a lot better. He missed too many open guys yesterday, but his ability to avoid INTs is proving most helpful.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny thing is...

I said to the guys I was watching with, ‘Do you know Orton was 20-29, 243YDS, 2TD today?’

Watching the game you’d think he was 12-49 for 110YDS or something. But no, he had an efficient game, as usual. He got the job done. It is so strange how he wins games, puts up efficient numbers and looks positively ordinary doing it.

But a W is a W. I’ll take it.

However I do like how after the game, Orton conceded that the time will come when Denver will need to put up 35 points to win the game. He seems fully aware of the situation so I am not too concerned right now.

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Oct 5, 2009 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wait til we are REALLY cliking on all cylinders

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by weazel on Oct 6, 2009 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone notice Ayers

was a bigger part of the action yesterday? Not that he hasn’t been contributing before then, but more quietly (i.e., distracting blockers so there’s room for Doom, etc). But yesterday he had a sack (that was nullified on a penalty I believe) and was in on quite a few tackles. Great to see. He’s just going to get better and better, and we have to be patient.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 5, 2009 10:34 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ayers

Yep. The rook is coming along. Fortunately I was able to laugh after he lined up at the wrong position, DJ was screaming at him to get in the right spot, Ayers just made it there in time for the snap, and Ayers proceeded to blow up the play. He is a keeper and is getting better every week.

by Endzone on Oct 5, 2009 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ladies and Gentleman, I give you

National Crow-Eating Day. Enjoy!

by idahobronc on Oct 5, 2009 10:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmm!

Just like mom used to serve.

Bon appetit, Monsieur Clayton.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 5, 2009 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

One more time for posterity:

and this one, which had me snorting:

shamelessly stolen from the Something Awful forums.

Swats.

by BeefySwats on Oct 5, 2009 11:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack N Coke.

The man has great taste in his afterhours drink of choice. He represents his people.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting fact I heard about Orton

I posted this in another thread, but think this is a more appropriate place to post this.

I was watching an east coast version of this telecast, and I heard one of the commentators say something about Orton’s throwing hand during the open shots of the game. They said that the past 3 weeks, in addition to wearing a glove, Orton was also playing with some sort of plastic strip inserted into the glove (presumably to prevent the knuckle getting too much out of alignment and thus dislocated again). The commentator also noted that Orton did not have the plastic thingamajiggy yesterday.

Could this have been the reason that Orton was so off target in the first few throws. Could any of the people who know better answer this?

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by Bronkos on Oct 5, 2009 11:23 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

That was Troy Aikman

saying that and thought that was interesting too. I didn’t really know much about the specifics of the glove itself til then. Truthfully, some of Orton’s inaccuracy yesterday was sort of what i expected from him earlier in the season when he first started wearing the glove. The fact that he’s been so accurate overall with that thing on speaks volumes. It’s hard to know for sure but you do have to wonder if that strip being removed could have affected him some way.

All I know is he’ll be very happy, and a bit more accurate, when the glove comes off. Which I really hope happens next week.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 5, 2009 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed!

No better time for the gloves to come off than against the Pats!

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Oct 5, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is a killer pun!

good job.

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by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys hear that?

That’s crickets…..

You feel that?

That’s the smell of the MSM’s collective nose jamming itself up McDaniels’ rear end to get themselves in on the fun before people realize they are snakes.

TAKE IT!!!

by Joe Medina on Oct 5, 2009 11:26 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

the d is amazing , but ...

… we can all agree that the o-line had one of their worst days. They shot themselves repeatedly in the foot with simple mental mistakes for a full 3 quarters. Ben Hamilton absence I feel played a big part of their bad day. At least this has been a rarity instead of the norm.

It is also apparent that Denver is not a good short yardage team. Reid as a full back on 4th and 1 slips and Morino gets stuffed. If this was the only example, I would be ok with it, but repeatedly denver has had trouble in short yardage situations.

The good news is that the offense is still in early season form with only one way to go. I am still waiting for the O break-out game. It is going to happen. They have the weapons and Kyle is severely underrated.

Maybe it happens when the glove comes off!?!?!

by chedro on Oct 5, 2009 11:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Conversely, on short yardage:

Our short yardage game wasn’t THAT bad yesterday. It needs work, but the only time people notice the short yardage runs is when they don’t happen. If I recall correctly, on a 2nd or 3rd and 2, Knowshon took it 14 yards into Dallas territory and helped set up the field goal to tie the game up.

I agree, short yardage needs to be more efficient, but nothing is ever going to be 100% guaranteed automatic—-unless your Adam Viniateri 6 years ago.

TAKE IT!!!

by Joe Medina on Oct 5, 2009 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

No team should expect to be %100 in short yardage situations. There were, as you mentioned, some positives, but it was apparent through 3 quarters of football andin the previous games, that the the 0 line was out of sync in those situations along with the full back. Maybe the need Larson back? But to ignore the problem and say we didn’t look that bad goes against the grain of what this football team has done to achieve its 4-0 start.

Mcd has plenty of footage from the last 4 games to illustrate the issue. Like you said, denver needs to be a lot more efficient.

by chedro on Oct 5, 2009 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first thing they should do in short yardage run situations

is put Hillis in at FB. I know he’s in the dog-house, but he can clear the hole for our guys running the rock until Larson is back. The other good thing here is that Hillis is also a weapon during play-action.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 5, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would love to see Hillis.

But, as it has been mentioned a couple of times here, Hillis is not being factored into the game plan right now. Wether it is because of his bad plays, fumble, block in the back, etc. it is a little hard to tell. I will say this, watching Hillis argue with the officials regarding the block in the back seems to be a even larger statement of where he stands with McD right now. It was clearly a block in the back, and it seems like he is fighting to get out of Mcd’s dog house. Just speculation.

When they put in Lamont Jordan to pick up a 4th and short yardage to close out the raiders game, you know that hillis has an up hill battle for more touches. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds with Buck hurt.

by chedro on Oct 5, 2009 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Blame

The OLine is getting way too many penalties. As a result, we are not even getting into short yardage situations enough.

by Endzone on Oct 5, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks as usual NYC,

I loved the win, I love the team, but now they need to use all of this positive energy and focus on this weeks game. As McDaniels said, “No teams has ever made it to the playoffs with 4 wins.” Hope we don’t find ourselves in a trap game this week. I think the game will play out as who knows who’s tendencies better, Belichick or McDaniels.

Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009

by diviesti on Oct 5, 2009 12:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No way you can interpret this as a trap game

NE is legit and is a serious threat to hand us our first loss. Trap games are where you take a team lightly and they surprise you. If we lose to NE there is no surprise from me.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 5, 2009 1:08 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Denver is not good enough to have any trap games on the 2009 schedule. If we get called for 10 penalties a game, any NFL team will be around til the end.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a misunderstanding

When i wrote trap game I meant if the players buy into the hype and show up to the game flat. Coming off such an emotional game, and every headline crowning us contenders is tough to stay focused. Just hope the sigh of relief ends after tomorrow, and they can get back to work with few distractions.

Yes this game will be the hardest so far, with even harder ones left. Can’t let off the gas pedal because we finally have some respect.

Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009

by diviesti on Oct 5, 2009 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no way

Denver looks past New England. They’re rolling, too, they are super popular, there’s the Hoodie vs Hoodie hype. The Broncos may lose it but it won’t be ‘cause it’s a trap game. Toughest game of the year for them imho.

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by underdog on Oct 5, 2009 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patriots

I think this game will be our first championship level test. No-one can question the fact that McD is going to be fired up to win this game. The question is whether our team as a whole will be up to the test.

I think the Patriots have shown some weaknesses we can exploit. Add that to home field advantage and the Broncos have a good opportunity to win another one.

by Endzone on Oct 5, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree and it comes down really to minimizing mistakes

If we have miscues or dumb penalties, I’ll probably come away thinking we’re still a little “doughy” in the middle. If we don’t, and still lose but lose competitively, I’ll still feel good about our chances in December.

Without question, this game is an important yardstick at an opportune time.

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by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trap game, no way

McDaniels will never let that happen especially with the Pats coming to town. There will be some good meetings between him an Nolan this week.

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by weazel on Oct 6, 2009 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just heard Gil Whiteley

Of the Gil and Woody Paige show, say that he McDaniels will be the first Broncos coach who he won’t be “friends with.”

No, seriously. He said that.

According to Gil, McDaniels was out of line for suggesting that the people inside Dove Valley were more “educated” about the Broncos than those who spent the offseason and preseason pontificating about how awful the team was.

This offended Gil.

So, Josh. No invites out for slugs of Cutty and stories about the good ol’ days of banging cowgirls two at a time for you, you snot nosed brat!

by JeffG on Oct 5, 2009 12:21 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I bet

Josh must be really upset over this loss of friendship. I mean, how much this friendship must have meant to him? How dare he call the ignorant, ignorant! Dang Josh. Who do you think you are?

... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear

by 3nS on Oct 5, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gil also thinks...

…that McDaniels isn’t the kind of guy who is going to show up at charity events and eat the free cocktail weenies.

In short, he — and Woody, and people like them — don’t have the same access they had with Shanahan.

They responded by dumping all over the Broncos early. Now that the people they dumped all over are showing no interest in palling around with them outside of work, they present this indifference as a character flaw.

by JeffG on Oct 5, 2009 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

the biggest threat to the modern pundit

is loss of access. It can make them irrelevant and in some cases even extinct.

They even have a rallying cry: Remember the dodo!

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by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turn off your radio or try a station that plays music. When I lived in CO, I liked the 93.1

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would I do that?

I have an iPod, after all.

Incidentally, how would you rate the play of Fields, Peterson, and McBean?

by JeffG on Oct 5, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then listen to your Ipod.

Very good against the run, mediocre vs the pass. The three of them get very little push when a team unexpectedly throws on we thought would be running down. I’d still allocate some high draft picks to the D-line in the next draft.

We also have to be very careful about the screens. Our D-linemen duffed a few of those in yesterday’s first half. Peterson really blew one that went his way.

They’ve definitely outperformed my expectations, but they are not the strength of the D. That would be the LBs followed by the secondary.

Love the Broncos. Mike Nolan is a genius.

by McGeorge on Oct 5, 2009 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

KILO rocks the rockies

... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear

by 3nS on Oct 5, 2009 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is Gil Whiteley?

Is he entirely a Radio Idiot? I personally think that Belichick and McDaniels are ahead of the curve in realizing that they don’t really need to give reporters access anymore. They’re becoming increasingly marginalized on their own, so the coaches may as well let them keep going down their current path. (Of course, I think I am ahead of the curve by writing analysis from an angle that actively doesn’t want to incorporate controlled, agenda-laden “insider” information, so take what I think for what it’s worth.)

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Oct 5, 2009 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to Gil, McDaniels was out of line for suggesting that the people inside Dove Valley were more "educated" about the Broncos than those who spent the offseason and preseason pontificating about how awful the team was.

i love that comment by McD in his post-game presser. we’re 4-0 and the morons in the press are still questioning off-season moves. McD’s response was a bit snarky, but screw those “journalists.” they have their job to worry about and McD has his

by lolcopter on Oct 5, 2009 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

McD's comment

I loved it. It was an intelligent way to say “Kiss My A$$”

by Endzone on Oct 5, 2009 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

McD is smart

I bet that will be one of the last questions anybody will ask him about the past offseason. He took an issue that he has been on the defensive about since he got the job and in a sentence or two put the media on defense so as they will not be asking him those things every week.

... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear

by 3nS on Oct 5, 2009 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

Whiteley suggesting that he’s more “educated” than any living human at anything other than clinging, remora-like, to the underbelly of the local media for decades is a riot.

by Remember Keith Kartz! on Oct 5, 2009 2:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet! DB.com just changed their style sheets to Brown and Yellow

Bring on the STRIPED SOCKS!!!

Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.

by broncosmontana on Oct 5, 2009 4:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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