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Ravens 30 - Broncos 7 -- Mistakes cost Broncos as they fall to 6-1

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Category Broncos Ravens
Score 7 30
Rushing Yards
66 125
Passing Yards
134 167
Total Yards 200 292
3rd Down Conversions 3/13 11/18
T.O.P 26:17 33:37
Turnovers
1 0


There are games when you are beaten, then there are those that you lose.  The Broncos fell somewhere in the middle on Sunday as they 'earned' their first loss of the season 30-7 in Baltimore to the Ravens.

I won't say it was all about Broncos mistakes, because that takes away from the way the Ravens played.  They played exactly the way we expected them to play - like a team needing a win because they are 3rd in their division.  I also can't give all the credit to the Ravens because the Broncos did enough damage to themselves to greatly aid the Ravens.

The first half played out very much like I thought it would.  The Ravens played with a lot of emotion and the Broncos struggled a bit - at least on offense.  The Broncos were able to do what they have done all season - keep it close and force field goals.   The Ravens held a 6-0 lead, which could have easily been more after a Knowshon Moreno fumble - his 3rd of the season - gave the Ravens the ball at the Broncos 23. 

Star-divide

A quick note about the Moreno fumble.  Yes, it was one helluva hit by Ed Reed.  That said, tell me that Moreno isn't getting the reputation around the NFL that if you hit him, and hit him hard, he'll drop the football.  The hit by Reed isn't the point.  The point is Moreno is on the cusp of being branded a fumbler.  That's not a good thing - especially early in a career.  Other running backs have had fumbling issues early - Tiki Barber comes to mind - and he was able to overcome them.

Back to the game.  For me, things changed on 2 possessions sandwiching the half.  The Broncos finally got into Ravens territory right before halftime before being forced to punt.  Had the Broncos been able to score there - who knows.  Of course, that point may have become moot when Lardarius Webb returned the opening kick-off of the 2nd half 95-yards for a Touchdown.

While the Broncos were able to score a TD after that, cutting the lead to 13-7, there was a feeling that I had that the Broncos just weren't going to get it done.  The Ravens answered with a FG of their own and in many ways the game was over.  The Ravens defense is too good when they make you one-dimensional and as it was, the Broncos couldn't protect Kyle Orton.

Which brings me to the play of the Broncos offensive line.  I have said that I would give Denver the advantage over any team until I saw otherwise - today I did.  The Ravens front-7 really gave the Broncos offense fits.  They are a fast group and never really let Kyle Orton and the offense get into a rhythm.  Then, once the lead went to two scores the Ravens really tee'd off.

For one second, give the Ravens some credit.  They have issues in their defensive backfield.  So far this season, their coaching staff has been criticized for not bringing pressure and it has cost them - they have given up a lot of points.  To their credit they brought pressure today and the Broncos didn't have an answer.  If it makes you feel better to blame the playcalling, or Orton, do so, but the Ravens had a great plan and they executed.

Of course, the Broncos didn't help themselves.  They played poorly on offense and special teams.  Defensively, for the first time all season, an opposing offense did the job on 3rd down.  In a lot of ways it was the typical type game for the Broncos in Baltimore, who fall to 0-4 at MT&A Field. 

The Broncos had to lose some time.  Like it or not.  For me, I'd much rather it be on the road than at home, much rather it be the way the Ravens did it - the coaching staff has plenty to look at, the players plenty to work on.

The next test for Josh McDaniels and the Broncos starts now.  How does the coach deal with his team's first loss?   How do the players deal with getting punched in the face a bit?

Of course, it is also a test of all of us Broncos fans.  By winning the first 6 games, the Broncos have put themselves in a tremendous position - and spoiled us to boot.  The NFL Season is a marathon and this was a speed bump. 

The Ravens were desperate and battled themselves to a win.  The Broncos?  They are 6-1, heading home to prepare for a Monday Night meeting with the Steelers.

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Certainly not sold that trading Kern for Berger worked out so well either.

by BroncoTalon on Nov 1, 2009 2:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

+1

His release is glacier slow and his distance was unimpressive. However, the 25 yard punts allowed the coverage to get there, I guess…

Big props to Baltimore, though. Those guys showed up when they needed to show up.

- Jason

Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI

by jubei on Nov 1, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

- Jason

Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI

by jubei on Nov 1, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not just the O line

The backs and tight ends looked like they were bull fighting. I’ve seen peewee leagers put more effort into blocking.

by WABroncoFan on Nov 1, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

in Orton's defense,

he had no INTs. we played from behind all game and he didn’t turn the ball over even with non-stellar line play…

by GreatOrtonsNeckbeard on Nov 1, 2009 2:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not trying to knock Orton. But he had at least three bounce right off a defender’s hands today. The fact that he didn’t throw an INT today is just dumb luck. I think we can take his 1 INT out of parenthesis and remove the asterisk now.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 1, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

For one....

I’m tryin’ not to go there!

Change your thoughts and you change your world~Norman Vincent Peale

"And on the 8TH day-God created the Broncos!"

by broncolory7 on Nov 1, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

weak secondary?

I thought we were supposed to exploit the Ravens secondary. Our passing game was non-existent. Can’t blame that entirely on the line…

Still got your Creedence...

by OutOfYourElement on Nov 1, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

BENCH ORTON! BRING IN BRANDSTATER!

Just thought I’d get that in before Mike Clark got to this thread, too.

Save him the trouble and all.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 2:14 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Thanks for taking care of that.

by Broncoholic_07 on Nov 1, 2009 2:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of people were calling for Brandstater back in preseason....

obviously Orton is the way to go, but there is not need to take a cheap shot at someone for no apparent reason than to have a good laugh.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

The guy formerly known as ZAPPA

by Tim Lynch on Nov 1, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, I think you missed the point

Mike Clark was dumping on Orton in the previous thread.

And I noted how people here are always quick to rationalize his game day negativity.

Point made, I’d say.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt realize that.

I thought it was just a random cheap shot. My bad.

Still no need for personal attacks of any kind.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

The guy formerly known as ZAPPA

by Tim Lynch on Nov 1, 2009 4:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't an attack

I really DID want to beat him to it.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would I do that?

That used to be your job, until the Broncos exceeded expectations.

The blitz pickup was awful. And Berger? That was a terrible debut performance. On that we agree.

But I was struck more by the play calling and the performance of the receivers than by Orton or Buckhalter’s play overall.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 3:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Disappointed...

…but we’re still 6-1. Props to the Ravens, who completely dominated in the 2nd half, in every aspect of the game. This is especially disappointing coming off the bye with so much time to prepare, but here’s to seeing McD rebound from his first loss as HC….

by ncm42 on Nov 1, 2009 2:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think the Broncos exactly gave this one away

I think they simply got outplayed.

formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan

by Douglas A. Lee on Nov 1, 2009 2:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

i'm with you

we didn’t do a lot terribly wrong, lost a fumble early on a huge, game changing hit

Ravens were just the (way) better team today.

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup...even with the lack of...'holding' calls early on.

Change your thoughts and you change your world~Norman Vincent Peale

"And on the 8TH day-God created the Broncos!"

by broncolory7 on Nov 1, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Those holding calls that were missed when both ways. Washingon blantantly held Bailey on one of Ray Rice’s early runs and the ref must have been looking at his watch or some girl in row 2 because it was obvious.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm so agreein"!

Change your thoughts and you change your world~Norman Vincent Peale

"And on the 8TH day-God created the Broncos!"

by broncolory7 on Nov 1, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It's very simple

Baltimore came today fired up and ready to dominate. Our D matched their intensity for 3 quarters. But our O couldn’t match the emotion and intensity of their D. That is the best that Baltimore’s D played all year. They listened for 2 weeks about how they weren’t the same and today they played like the Baltimore of old. Props to them.

by T.Dot_Bronco on Nov 1, 2009 2:24 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

agreed

It will be VERY interesting to see how our boys respond. I wonder if they were believing the hype a little too much…

by madtown on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I've been waiting for this

moment. I didn’t really want to see it but now we’ll get to see how this team responds after a loss. But this is the last major test for this team. How do you respond?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly T Dot...in the development of the team tis could be a GREAT thing....and for the development of McD too!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Key word is could

Let’s hope they are who we think they are. We got outplayed by an intense team today. We play another next week. Let’s see how we improve.

by T.Dot_Bronco on Nov 1, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah....I ahd a bad feeling this week....our guys looked a little bit unfocused!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

There's too much character on this team

For them to crumble after this loss. It brings back memories from last year, but the team I saw beat the pats, sd and Dallas is ALOT different than what I saw today. Untill they prove otherwise I’ve seen a lot more great than bad so far.

by BroncoInExile on Nov 1, 2009 8:56 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

that Ravens D

would have shutout the Saints today….didn’t matter who they played they came and took it.

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I dont know...

…about shutting out the Saints, but I love your second comment – the Ravens D most definitely “came and took it.”

"A man can fail, but he is not a failure until he blames someone else." J. Paul Getty

by SteveAssassin on Nov 1, 2009 7:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

well here it comes...

many have wondered how the fickle and edgy fans around here would react to a loss, and that was old fashioned getting your asses handed to ya.

me, im looking forward to rewatching and seeing what insight the great minds here have to say about the game.

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

anyone know where i could watch the postgame presser online?

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

NFL Channel DD!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take 6-1 any day.

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Me 2!!!!

Change your thoughts and you change your world~Norman Vincent Peale

"And on the 8TH day-God created the Broncos!"

by broncolory7 on Nov 1, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A poor showing by the O-line and also by the receivers.

While Orton had little time to get set, the receivers seemed to get little separation and rounded off cuts repeatedly. Their blocking also looked half-hearted to me.

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

PDX as in portland?

im a cor as in corvallis bronco fan.

nice to know there are 2 or 3 of us int he northwest!

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

portland born and raised.....broncos are well represented up here

"never in my life have i been hit like that" - DJ victim

by chikndnnr on Nov 1, 2009 3:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We don't have a threat against a huge D like that.

This feels like SHanahan’s losses to the Jags. Physically dominated. Oh, and on the other side, Gaither is freakin HUGE.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Here are some of my concerns that are worrying me:
  1. Moreno: I am not a fan. I really was coming out of college, but he dances too much, has poor ball security, and even when he has holes, struggles to fall forward.
  1. Running game: WHY are we running between tackles all the time. Was never going to work today…and it did not. I scouted the Ravens for gods sake and the only plays that worked were off tackle and toss.
  1. Ben Hamilton: He needs to go. He got blown up…..easily and often. They bull rushed him constantly and he had NO answer.
  1. McD’s game planning: I DONT want to hear anyone bag Orton.,This was a terrible game plan, and is the first time we were out schemed and made BAD adjustments. McD needs to let Kyle throw the ball, and it should have been from the start of the game. Foxworth and Washington were never challenged, we never took on the seem where we could get DG and Sheffler, and never played the middle. Very poor.
  1. Eddie Royal: Apart from aberration fo the SD game, hes is not playing well in the return game. He is trying too hard and being caught in 2 minds.
  1. Special Teams: They are god awful and Berger sucked. I mentioned in the threads from a purely karmic point of view why change a winning team. Nail in this teams coffin was the return after half time. BLOOD AWFUL!!!!

D was stellar again! Orton did all he could. Polumbus played solidly, especially when they went after him.

Thanks crew!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:27 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I'm hoping we draft G in the first round next year.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

The guy formerly known as ZAPPA

by Tim Lynch on Nov 1, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that, but came to my senses.

Need to spread the money around a little— we already have Clady’s deal down there and Harris and/or Kuper will have nice contracts in the near future. I’m still hoping we draft a D-Lineman or ILB.

by ButteBronco on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice prioritization

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...lots of "1"'s there....thought that would be bullet point!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...maybe

Gimme a hit …I could’ve seen it different?!!!!

Change your thoughts and you change your world~Norman Vincent Peale

"And on the 8TH day-God created the Broncos!"

by broncolory7 on Nov 1, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to argue with that, boydy.

Much room for improvement, for sure.

- Jason

Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI

by jubei on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

shared

not really worried about orton, the line (sans hamilton) or the defense, which numbers might demonstrate as being weak.

really getting frustrated watching a guy like moreno (great balance and burst) not get many outside looks. our line is certainly mobile enough to set that edge.

eddie has frustrated me all year, and i thought the same thing today, that the sd returns were not going to be a norm.

berger is not the answer, and now kern is gone. just let marshall punt, he seems to like kicking the ball.

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

only risk would be that he would catch the ball and run backwards 12 yards before kicking it

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

nicely done, DD!

- Jason

Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI

by jubei on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Britton Colquitt....come on down!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i know, right?

his release time has to have been better than mitchburger

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

the wall

Seemed to me the return protection was weak all night. Every time he caught the ball, there were 3 purple jerseys ready to takle him, and our guys are setting up the wall 15 yards up field. can’t blame Eddy

Still got your Creedence...

by OutOfYourElement on Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Orton played poorly. There, I said it and I'm not wrong about it either.

You are being too kind to Orton as he did not play well today. Just like all the guys around him.

Moreno’s fumble was entirely Orton’s fault. He stared down that pass and lead Reed right into Knowshon. Moreno was getting nailed the instant he caught the ball. He stared down several of his intended targets today. There were several plays where his foot work looked like it did in the preseason. He missed Scheff on a TD pass where he gave up on the play too quick and sailed a pass into the goal post. During the game someone pointed out that he was 9/12 and all these +1’s followed. I pointed out that yes, he was 9/12 and we still had zero points and had not even crossed midfield. There is more to being an effective QB than completion %. The Ravens also dropped two easy ints.

You mentioned a plethora of other reasons why we lost and all are valid, but Orton played poorly today and did his part in leading us to a blowout loss.

I’m done with the Mitch Berger experiment.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:30 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

we had some issues

but i would maintain that our issues were smaller than you think in light of the fact that our opponent played the best game of their season, agreed ?

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Ravens were great and we were terrible. As a team, we were terrible. Not one or two guys but dozens of guys and coaches that stunk today.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...definitely a team effort. Harbaugh handed McD his arse today...comprehensively!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

True. One team was much better than the other today.

I thought Andra Davis, Larsen, Reid and Ayers did some nice things. Champ and Dawkins were good.

I can’t say a good thing about one guy on our offense. They sucked today. 1 thru 11 and the backups too.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

i find it tough to be hard on Orton for that loss

although i know we took away a lot of lessons from this game

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 3:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He did not play poorly...he played average as did Buck....the rest of the O played like crap!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Buckhalter played his worst game of the year today. His O-lay block on the CB blitz was the most pathetic play of the game. He also run like a girl.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That I disgree with....he missed one block badly but ran tough and caught balls.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That missed block was sorry as sorry can be. He also lost yards on several runs. He had not burst and missed a hole that would have resulted in a huge gain. Buckhalter can play much better than he did today.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...he played average!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My guess, but if we asked Buck to assess his play today, I doubt he’d say average.

8 carries for 16 yards. Did add some garbage time yards via the catch.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Orton didn’t play average, he played poorly, just like the other 10 guys on O. Even Clady didn’t play well.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m out in force every day. Stop being a jackass.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's being a jackass?

I’m just noticing an abundance of posts from you.

If you ask me, saying Buckhalter “runs like a girl” is jackassery. But I guess you’re entitled to your opinion.

And when it’s time to point out shortcomings, you’re something of a go-to guy ’round here.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 3:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Buckhalter normally runs great, but today, he didn’t. And his oh-lay block was pathetic.

Maybe you should head over to the DP so you can tell everyone how dumb they are.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would I do that?

Didn’t that used to be your job, until the Broncos exceeded expectations? How much does it pay, if you don’t mind my asking?

The blitz pickup was awful. And Berger? That was a terrible debut performance. On that we agree.

But I was struck more by the play calling and the performance of the receivers than by Orton or Buckhalter’s play overall.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t say the receivers or play calling was any good. It wasn’t. They stunk just like Orton and Buck. They all played poorly today and it’s why we got crushed.

Buck had 8 carries for 16 yards. Do you realize that?

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Orton didn’t stink. The Ravens just pressured and tackled.

That’s our offense. Get the ball to guys in space.

A better discussion would be why not adjust?

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. McDaniels was clearly outcoached today, as was Nolan. Our 2nd half adjustments lasted one drive and we went back to a flawed game plan.

Losing in Baltimore really doesn’t bother me that much. I didn’t have high hopes we’d win this game.

But we better win vs Pitt.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm worried

Because if we don’t bring the QB down when we pressure, we’re vulnerable.

And Ben is better than Flacco at eluding pressure.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

His receivers weren't getting separation

We needed to throw a few jump balls. On the one Orton did throw, Marshall drew an interference.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 3:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This is true. Royal didn’t do much yet again and I’m really starting to worry.

Gaffney played okay.

Marshall had a sub par game.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Gaffney was running good routes

And the game was 13-7 midway through the 3rd, with 7 of Baltimore’s points coming on a return (I worry about the coverage unit, too, with two returns in two games).

The Broncos offensive problem was not being able to convert on 3rd down. I think we should have stretched the field earlier on — but Orton wasn’t getting much time, and I didn’t see a lot of single coverage. Did I miss that?

If I did, then Orton is at fault. If I didn’t, I don’t think it was on the QB. Flacco only threw for 175 yards, right? But he converted on 3rd down.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Orton was inaccurate on a short 3rd down pass to Eddie in the 1st half that was a bad throw that lead to a punt.

He did his part in this loss. Football is a team sport and we lost as a team.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I know.

But every QB misses passes.

I’ll say it again: the offense struggled because the Ravens tackled and didn’t allow YAC.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They also won because we got outcoached and our speical teams were horrible while theirs were great. Team game, team loss. Orton didn’t get it done today, not even close. His offensive teammates were very inept as well.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Special teams was a problem.

And yeah, we didn’t adjust. Whether that’s because we can’t or because we thought Baltimore would eventually break down and miss tackles I can’t say.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Flacco was 20/25 with no picks and a QB rating of 112. He was much better than Orton today.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure?

I saw him miss high on a couple of third down passes.

And as that seems to be the criteria…

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Those were the stats. I also forgot that Flacco threw a TD, which Orton did not.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The point was

Flacco missed several third down throws, also.

The Broncos got tackled and didn’t convert on 3rd down. I say that’s less on Orton than it is on the o-line and the play calling. You disagree.

But yes, Flacco clearly played better than Orton.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I just blame Orton as well as the O-line and play calling. Boydy said no one should blame Orton, but Orton didn’t play well today and his poor play merits criticism. Just like the poor play of his mates.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I was saying no blame Orton only....I was expecting a lot to crucify him for a game plan that was flawed and an uninterested preformance by the O Line!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 4:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Kern

Now that kern is with the titans they are winning. Bad juju sending him away.

by NDbronco on Nov 1, 2009 4:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I’m not typically a “look at the bright side” type of guys, this could be a “good loss”.

This was a game where Baltimore was pretty much in a must win situation and the Broncos were riding high and maybe a little too confident.

It’s good to get this one out of the way with the upcoming schedule and get back to doing what we were doing to win football games.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have a little more down-field risk and

a risk of INTs as long as we win more often than not.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:31 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Kinda hard to do when the QB has NO TIME

by lolcopter on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

How can we hold Cribbs, and not hold Webb?

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"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Two games in a row is cause for concern

- Jason

Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI

by jubei on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we needed to stretch the field out

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by RiG on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I am not enjoying the replays today.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Not that it would have made any difference in this game but

 replacing the punter appears to have been a giant step backwards. We all knew an eventual loss was inevitable and to have it happen on the road against Baltimore is no reason to feel ashamed. Scoring just 7 points is. With the possible exception of Orton, whom I didn’t notice committing any major mistakes, the entire offensive unit fell woefully short.

by warmick on Nov 1, 2009 2:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Great. Of all times, the pundits are saying there was no shame in losing to the Ravens.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Is MHR radio tonight?

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:36 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yes....

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by John Bena on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That will be fun....and enlightening......lets hope we get a good attendance....you learn from losses than wins!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

THanks, Guru.

Time to focus on how we respond

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

OH, there's my Jamie Dukes.....

“Could this be the beginning of the end for the Denver Broncos?”

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:36 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Are you kidding me?!

"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".

"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.

by broncoholic on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, it wasn't Dukes, it was onother guy on NFLN, but he's talking to Dukes

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like somebody is hoping it is...

- Jason

Horton is WIN - HORVIL TIKI

by jubei on Nov 1, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

What to take from this loss?

If anything at all I would say that the tarnished record is the least of my worries. 6-1 works for me. My only problem with this game is that we knew the Ravens would play with a real urgency to win and we failed to match their intensity. Fortunately this game is one that can be easily dissected to improve upon. I hope that in the future we do a better job picking up the blitz because that was just embarrassing to watch.

If we cannot find a way, we will make a new one. -Hannibal

by AvalancheRescueDog on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

i didn tmind the lack of intensity,

which i think is a bit overrated. we had a lot of intense linebackers last season who overshot and missed tackles all season.

being out-executed is very real though, and that appeared to be the problem.

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Great points ARD....looks like our guys were taking Matodor lessons during the bye week!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was most disappointed with our INABILITY to

tackle Flacco behind the line of scrimmage! Our defenders were close enough to whisper sweet nothings in his ear, but they didn’t reach out and tackle…. they just ran right by him!

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

seriously!

multiple times guys had hands on him but couldnt bring him down… scary because rottenburger is great at evading the easy sack.

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of who we play, six wins in a row is no accident, and

it’s not lucky.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly Harv!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

we were only down 13-7 into the middle of the third as well

the Ravens really put together the final push in the last quarter and a half and we couldn’t match them

by GreatOrtonsNeckbeard on Nov 1, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait and see

that is what I am going to do. Next week against the Steelers will tell us alot. Todays game was concerning in many ways. Offensive line was owned, Defense seemed to fold up the longer into the game we went, Running game is not happening, Passing game never showed up and I could go on and on.
Not to forget many missed tackles that gave up crucial yards to the Ravens.

But this is just one game and all teams get their butts handed to them every year, sometimes more than once (look at the Giants, what is going on there?)
So, I am not going to go into panic mode at this point in the season but I may hold my breathe a bit more than usual.

This team needs to really take a long look at todays game and get back to work. I am sure they are doing this as I type.
This is going to be a very good test to the strength and pride of this team , and for what I have seen up to this point we do have those qualitiies.
Many things to chew on and fix so lets wait and see how we respond to next weeks game and then we can all get back to yelling how good this team is. I love this team no matter what happens from here on out, we will fix it we will get better and we will also have our problems….
In reality I never dreamed we would be going to the superbowl this year anyway, not until we were 6-0 that is, now maybe I should become very real about this also.
You have to be pretty damn good to get to the big dance and we are on our way……Go -Bronco’s…..

by pwsbronco on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

Offensive line stunk. Play calling was uninspiring. Defense ran out of gas. Special teams breakdown. Etc.

by lolcopter on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

To the point!!!

Change your thoughts and you change your world~Norman Vincent Peale

"And on the 8TH day-God created the Broncos!"

by broncolory7 on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

atdhe.net

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

slightly cooler heads here than at the thread

"never in my life have i been hit like that" - DJ victim

by chikndnnr on Nov 1, 2009 2:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

4th quarter thread is melting donw, huh?

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

*down

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

the thread is full of people i would not want to have my back

"never in my life have i been hit like that" - DJ victim

by chikndnnr on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey man...go easy....just passionate....I think everyone disappointed by lack of fire and not keeping games close!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

panic is weak.....

the lack of fire on O and ST was bothersome but some of the doom and gloom is just embarrassing. Passion is good when used correctly. Glad you and me are not at mcoaches mercy this week….our guys are gonna sleep well this week

"never in my life have i been hit like that" - DJ victim

by chikndnnr on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed man!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

need a few more rod smiths....to hit people with their rings

"never in my life have i been hit like that" - DJ victim

by chikndnnr on Nov 1, 2009 3:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...would have loved 53 Rod Smiths today...even 1 would have been great!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys just got back from watching the game.

and wow…… Orton had noooo time. but what worries me is that even when he did have time, no WR could get seperation and we ended it up for a 2 yard dump to a RB. We musta had under 5 plays over 10 yards. We needed rythem but it was never there. Maybe for only that 1 td drive

by Calibroncoboy on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Cali, you seem pretty upbeat and analytical for witnessing that dismantling..... : )

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I did… Sheesh.

by Velveeta on Nov 1, 2009 3:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Velv!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

THey were mainly frustrated.

I wish they would manifest it in a differnt way, but oh, well.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

AND>>>

I’m STILL LOVIN’……tha BRONCOS!!!!!

Change your thoughts and you change your world~Norman Vincent Peale

"And on the 8TH day-God created the Broncos!"

by broncolory7 on Nov 1, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Great attitude mate!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

So let's talk Steelers.

D = not as good as the Ravens
Where their D IS strong (corners) is not where Orton is throwing….

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

game

Well, 6-1 is better than the other alternatives. I must agree tho, did seem like the team was playing uninspired football. Could that be attributed to the first play sack?? It is always interesting during a fight to see what happens when someone gets punched in the nose. Special Teams? What the He** is going on here. All season has been a nail bitter, then we have a new (?) punter. Think coach wil take a new look at this??? Oh well, time to study this game, discover the mistakes, then get ready for next week.

by windblocker on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I think we saw a team in a “must-win” situation that has lost some tough games against a team that may have been a little too proud of itself.

Hopefully we got that straightened out now.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

At least we understand

How far we have to go in terms of physicality before we play Pittsburgh next sunday. O-line needs to be retooled and figure out how to properly slow down quick rushes. Orton didn’t play great, but between constant pressure and the down field coverage he wasn’t given much of a chance. Hopefully the secondary figures it out before Ben and Hines can shred us up.

Bleed Blue and Gold

by MileHighMonsters on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

steelers will not protect ben like ravens protected joe

"never in my life have i been hit like that" - DJ victim

by chikndnnr on Nov 1, 2009 3:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

fumble
That said, tell me that Moreno isn’t getting the reputation around the NFL that if you hit him, and hit him hard, he’ll drop the football. The hit by Reed isn’t the point. The point is Moreno is on the cusp of being branded a fumbler. That’s not a good thing – especially early in a career.

This fumble didn’t look like his other ones, although I’ll have to see it again in super-slowmo. It appeared that he didn’t have the ball tucked away yet or was exposed with the ball facing Reed as Reed hit the ball. He was turned away from the oncoming tackler and caught by surprise. The replay appeared to show that he hadn’t gripped the ball tightly yet and — unfortunately — a well timed hit can loosen a ball under those circumstances.

You can look at in regular speed or slightly slowed motion and get an idea of how quickly it unfolded.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d813dbd32/Ravens-30-Broncos-7

Regarding reputation — it’s more a question of mechanics in my mind. Teams are going to try anything that works and a physical strategy is going to occur to many because of this game. I think the Ravens were simply far more motivated. They’re also a physical team that should give Denver problems, especially under these circumstances.

I see the problems somewhat differently, but I’ll post on that later.

no goats, no glory.

by Colinski on Nov 1, 2009 3:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

bad rap to have...more and more attempts will be made on the ball

"never in my life have i been hit like that" - DJ victim

by chikndnnr on Nov 1, 2009 3:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

it's self-fulfilling but he's got to deal with it

Interestingly, ‘we’ (many of us) blamed Cutler for putting Hillis in a bad position when he was injured last year, in what was a similar kind of play. Being turned to the QB when Reed is approaching unblocked at warp speed is not a good position for anyone to be in. Maybe Moreno needs to learn to duck?

no goats, no glory.

by Colinski on Nov 1, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No....maybe our WR's and TE's need to protect n screens?

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That fumble was entirely Orton’s fault. He lead Reed right into Moreno because he stared down Knowshon on that play.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yes and no

yes Orton played a role, but Knowshon lost the ball

BUT

great play by the Ravens, full credit. its football after all, thats why they play the game

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 3:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Great hit by a great player. But Orton lead Moreno into that disaster. It was a terrible pass that was blatantly telegraphed by the QB. I taped the game and watched it three times. Completely Orton’s fault.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not the game. I watched that play three times. I don’t want to watch that game again.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The fumble was Orton’s fault. The loss was a team effort. We played poorly as a team. Esp the O and special teams.

Can’t win the all, and we didn’t look ready today.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the offense suffered for 2 reasons

1. Raven’s pressure beat our o-line; but
2. most importantly, the Ravens tackled. The offense is predicated on getting your playmakers the ball in the space. Orton did that, but Baltimore prevented YAC. The Broncos didn’t adjust, and consequently, they didn’t convert 3rd downs.

Just my two cents. I
.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't help that we ran a lot of screens

and really didn’t even try to go deep

by Whosbob89 on Nov 1, 2009 4:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

The one time we threw down field, Marshall drew the penalty.

As I said upthread, I wonder about the play calling — that is, unless Orton had single coverage a number of times and didn’t try to go up top. If so, that’s on him.

But that’s not what I saw. I could be wrong, but if I’m not, the trouble wasn’t the QB.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m starting to get a little worried about eddie royal…..where has he been in our offense the past few games

by Whosbob89 on Nov 1, 2009 4:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yes !
Great hit by a great player.

sometimes the other guy just makes the play : (

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 3:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No, it was a combination...

It was designed screen, but a floaty ball. Moreno should have held it, and our WR;s, TE;s and O linemen should have blocked. It was bad by everyone!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It was more than floaty (which it was) it was also telegraphed. He did nothing to look off anyone and he hesistated to throw the ball. He got his WR blasted by a terrible pass.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Should have been incomplete

There is no way Moreno had time to secure that ball. That should have been ruled an incomplete pass; it was a good challenge but the refs made a home field call and review – Their explanation makes no sense, except it was a close play, so they will probably get away with it. Think of it this way; if he had caught that pass in the end zone would it have been ruled an incompleteion or a touchdown??? If he caught it in the end zone, it could not have been ruled a fumble, only choice would be touchdown or incomplete – and he never really had secured possession, so they would have ruled incomplete.

It was a great play by Reed, but Orton should have either looked off Reed or done something else with the ball. Not Moreno’s fault.

by cohiker on Nov 2, 2009 5:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

We didn’t see neckbeard hang his head, did we? No, and you can also say they kept playing till the whistle was blown. That’s and encouraging sign isn’t it? I’m sure McD already knows what to fix and is looking at Pittsburgh on the flight home.

MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Nov 1, 2009 3:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

we played until the final whistle

lots of our fans quit earlier than that

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 3:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, on the average our fans need to step up.

MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Nov 1, 2009 3:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

especially the home crowd next week

MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Nov 1, 2009 3:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Steelers

are likely in for a beat down next Monday night. What is it with all the negativity- we’re gonna be fine. The loss was good for the team.

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You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Nov 1, 2009 3:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks man

Were gonna be fine

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by PositivIntegral on Nov 1, 2009 7:37 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding Moreno's fumble

Look, no excuses for fumbling the ball, but I gotta say that Orton gets half credit for that one. He telegraphed that throw for a long time before actually releasing the ball, and Moreno was teed up nice and pretty for Ed Reed and that huge hit. that had trouble written all over it. I’m just glad Moreno got up.

by Sundaywon on Nov 1, 2009 3:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

sort of saddened to hear some people think that fumble was/is somehow a knock on Moreno, that was a gamechanger and not at all Moreno’s fault in the sense that he was set up to fail…i know i know you have to hold onto the ball, but still…

oh well i guess. leave the experts to their expertise.

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 3:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No....I have other problems with Moreno....that was a big hit but still needs to hold onto it...

He is overthinking everything and not hitting holes and struggles to fall forward. Where is the kid that played for Georgia?
I feel Buck needs to be our starter…he hits holes better and falls forward.

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by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Buck had 8 carries for 16 yards. How is that notable in a good way?

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 4:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see what you're seeing, boydy

Moreno ran well today, I thought.

And he ALWAYS gets an extra few yards.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It has been a problem since game 1 with him...for mine..

When he runs strong and hits gap he is great…ripped off one ripper today. But he struggles hitting the hole and dances too much for me. That is different from how he was at Georgia…he was a one cut guy that was good in space and elusive after initail cut….seems he is getting that mixed up and dancing now before cutting.
I still think he as potential for sure….as ssuper stoked when we drafted him…but any run he dances on he gets stuffed and falls backwards….and that is happening more than hitting gaps at mac speed and it needs to change!

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by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 4:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Right now, you have a rookie back

Running behind two different blocking schemes in a complicated offense that requires a lot of the back.

I want him to break a long run, sure. But he goes forward and he is gaining positive yardage.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree to disagree man...I need to see him step it up a lot more....his YPC is VERY average!

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by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 4:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Larsen

Sorry if this was covered earlier, but I only caught a bit less than half the game… Did Larsen play? Have any impact? Just curious.

And thanks for this recap!

As I said earlier, I kind of expected a loss today. Didn’t expect them to lose by that bad of a score, but I thought this would be a tough one and I also don’t think it’s one to dwell on too long. I expect them to come back out and play a lot better next Monday night.

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by underdog on Nov 1, 2009 3:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

larsen

destroyed the returner a few times,

and maybe freed hillis to get involved in the o, as hillis caught 2 passes for like 10 yards (guess).

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-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 3:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

I’m sure he’ll become more important each week too as the rust comes off.

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by underdog on Nov 1, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bad day for the Broncos.

Goodman and Buckhalter both played their worst games as members of the team.

Elvis had two offsides in succession turning a punt into a TD drive. He was dominated today.

Ben Hamilton had another bad game.

Alphonso Smith has shown me nothing over the past four games.

Mitch Berger…. Really????

Special teams were little yellow school bus special today. Was Scott O’Brien coaching that unit?

Where the heck is Eddie Royal in our offense?

Why didn’t we attach Foxworth and Washington with more deep passes?

Why can’t Prater kick the ball with distance after September 30th?

Still, we are 6-1 and in great shape. You can’t play well every week and hopefully Denver picked a game where several guys mailed it in before opening kickoff. Today reminded me of the 2008 team. A win vs Pitt and I’m stoked for big big things for this Bronco team.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 3:38 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Nice sum up McG

Respect for your sober assessment

I think you’ll have reason to be stoked 8 days from now; we should be able to respond in kind

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by PositivIntegral on Nov 1, 2009 7:42 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Alphonso Smith

out for a couple of those games with a sprained ankle (at least the NE game)?

It's "just" football

by Donkhead on Nov 2, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

you had me at hello
A win vs Pitt and I’m stoked for big big things for this Bronco team.

by Jenna Talia on Nov 1, 2009 3:40 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

There are areas of concerns,

but all teams have some issues. I’m not worried at all.

The Broncos had some things going against them today.
1. it’s tough to go across country and play on the road, in the morning, especially against a very emotional, defense-oriented team.
2. the Ravens needed this game, as its division is tough and they are in danger of slipping out of contention.
3. the Broncos did not need this game, it’s division is terrible and they may have been a little complacent.
3. the Broncos were coming off a bye week that they entered on a roll. They may have lost some momentum.

Others like Boydy and McGeorge have done a good job outlining concerns, and as I said, all teams have them. This team is in great shape. If anything, this win will have the club even more pumped up and ready to go for Steeler week. The remaining schedule just isn’t that tough, and if they pull out a win on Monday night, it’s going to take a complete collapse to keep this team from the playoffs.

by ButteBronco on Nov 1, 2009 3:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yep BB....as I have said you learn more from lossed and wins and there is LOTS of things for our WHOLE organization to take home.

I have concerns, but am still stoked where we are at!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is gonna be stupid

and say the chargers will win the AFC West now……ya because we lose 1 game

by Whosbob89 on Nov 1, 2009 3:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Meanwhile

JaMarcus Russell continues to look like the worst QB in the history of football.

Perspective check people, perspective!

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by underdog on Nov 1, 2009 3:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

They are coming back....Go Aaron Rodgers!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

looking good!

rodgers going KO!

"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 4:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He's got a lot of work to beat out Ryan Leaf

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by Broncoman on Nov 1, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

When your beaten or when you lose...

Were you beaten or did you lose is the question. The Broncos got their a$$’s kicked today in every aspect of the game they so dominated in the first 6. Is this a reason to worry? Are they exposed, after all the tape of the game will be shared by all teams. Next week will will answer these questions. GO BRONCOS!!!!

by lars94 on Nov 1, 2009 3:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know what's up with Harris?

This doesn’t sound promising (from Lindsay Jones of DP on Twitter:)

Ryan Harris was on crutches, with right foot heavily wrapped and in one of those soft, flat-bottom shoes

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by underdog on Nov 1, 2009 3:58 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Broken toe?

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 1, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

my take

I didn’t see the fourth quarter and I’m unsure what happened there. But up until that point it wasn’t awful.

- Special teams are killing us, though – not just the return, we are really losing the field position game. If you look at the stats, first downs and yardage aren’t that far off from Baltimore’s.

- One huge defensive mental lapse in the third quarter, we had third and very long, and two offsides penalties in a row (on Elvis?), where we held on both downs, led to them converting, and it felt like the game was over after that.

- Our offensive line didn’t play very well.

- And, I hate to say it, but I think we need to improve our wide receiving corp. We just don’t have a vertical downfield threat. Gafney’s the only one and he’s silent too much – our other guys are better when they face the ball – they’re YAC people.

- I don’t think Orton is a problem, unless it turns out that receivers were open downfield and Orton just wasn’t throwing to them.

- I don’t blame Moreno for that fumble and other than that he showed some flashes I haven’t seen before.

- Looks like we just gave up in the fourth quarter, though – I guess our defense was gassed from the offense having so many short drives.

by tunesmith on Nov 1, 2009 4:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

great comments

re: recievers-
i think we have a good core- no time to set routes due to pressure up the gut on your qb makes any wideout mediocre.

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-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 4:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think the WR corps are the issue

Orton just does not have the ability to throw the long ball with very good accuracy. There have been plenty of plays this year where BM or someoneelse was wide open and he underthrew the ball, I think McDaniels has basically accepted this limitation and is forcing him to throw the ball under twenty yards unless the guy is wide open.

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by Broncoman on Nov 1, 2009 4:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This is nonsense

Sorry, but it is.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 4:27 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

not sure if it is nonsense,

i mean we havent seen the consistant deep threat being utilized by denver.

but the 20-30 yarders that orton has thrown the last few weeks, including the final drive today, orton had good zip and great accuracy.

nonsense? no. speculation? maybe.

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-K.O.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 1, 2009 4:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. It's nonsense.

When Orton has a better handle on the entirety of the offense — or when the defense dictates — he’ll go down field.

Those plays aren’t being called much — and frankly, we haven’t needed them. Until today.

But again, I didn’t see Orton refusing to throw up top against single coverage. Plus, he was pressured quite a bit.

If I see something in a second viewing to suggest that Orton is scared to let it go, I’ll say so. But it seems to me that the game plan was to get the ball to players in space and allow them to make the first tackler miss. Only problem is, the Ravens didn’t cooperate: they played D like the Broncos generally do and prevented YAC.

by JeffG on Nov 1, 2009 7:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, all in all, I would say this was an ass whipping, I don't see it as we lost, we got beat

They basically lost on all sides of the ball, offense, defense, and special teams.

My biggest question is why didn’t we have Hillis in there more, this was the type of game that he was built for, he can take and deliver the punishment and is a weapon out of the backfield.

I agree with Moreno assessemnt in that he has had way too many fumbles for a team that can ill afford them.

But I will also say that Joe Flacco is definately for real, the guy can play and showed why he will be a very good QB for a long time, he can function with pressure and make plays where there are none.

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by Broncoman on Nov 1, 2009 4:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I wasn’t surprised the Broncos lost – maybe they were due. But I was surprised at the margin. You’re right, this was just a good old fashioned ‘take the guy behind the woodshed and four guys take turns kicking him till he spits up blood’ ass whooping.

And the sad thing is, the stats don’t suggest as much a lopsided game, although the rushing yards are telling. The Broncos played their first truly sloppy game of the year. The D played fairly well but the offense – and I was expecting a breakout game today – just looked utterly lost.

Guru was right, the Ravens simply brought it today, but I was surprised at how the Broncos just had no answer whatsoever. I’ll tell you – HUGE props to the Ravens (unfortunately my SECOND favorite team) staff for simply out coaching and planning their opponent today. Their whole team played with confidence and emotion today, and it showed on the field.

Unfortunately I can’t wear my Ravens jacket to work this week as I sometimes do after a big win. The Broncos are my number one team and this hurts too much. LOL

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by TheMastermind on Nov 1, 2009 4:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Ravens just had the right game plan, they were able to disrupt our passing game by applying pressure and taking away the short routes. For some reason we didn’t use the stretch runs at all which have been good for us.

The defense finally looked human, not a good showing for a good unit, I hope this game is used as motivation to come back next week and punch Pittsburgh in the face.

by gyldenlove on Nov 1, 2009 6:03 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If you apply intense pressure on a QB

the QB is not going to have a good day . . . no matter who the QB is.

He doesn’t have enough time for patterns to develop, he doesn’t have time to check down properly, and he’s not as accurate because he cannot set up and throw. That is any QB.

You want to see Orton do a good job? PROTECT HIM! Then he will do a good job.

BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!

by AZDynamics on Nov 1, 2009 4:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Shanahan Football

Give credit to the Ravens, they play opposite of how I thought they would and just about exactly how you have to play to beat Denver, especially going with the “no huddle”. Denver played horribly between the tackles, couldn’t run, Orton seems scared the whole game and the defense stopped doing what’s made them great all season, BLITZING. It’s was Shanahan football all day. There’s a reason the Broncos were undefeated and they came into the game forgetful of that and it cost them. Time to move on, Denver needs to let Berger know if he doesn’t stop three step punting and get the ball away he’s gone, and simply get back to basics. Next week is another good test, we need tough games to get better, Denver will pick up the pieces next week, and still move forward with momentum coming home to face San Diego.

by AllYouCanEat on Nov 1, 2009 5:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The Common Thread in the Bad Offensive Games

The Broncos have had two terrible offensive games this year (vs. Cincinnati and Baltimore). The common thread in each is that pressure was brought, early, often and to great effect, by sending defenders and blitzers towards the middle of the O-line. Hamilton is a weak link. Teams with 30 fronts that can vary the rush now have a working template for shutting down the Broncos’ O.

The question is how they respond.

by Chibronx on Nov 1, 2009 5:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Lessons learned

We certainly learned some lessons today, some more valuable than others, but the best thing we can hope for is that we can learn from those things and avoid walking into the same kind of situation again.

1. The interior line is not up to the task against size. Hamilton especially has struggled with size this year, Shaun Rogers, Vince Wilfork and now Gregg have been pushing him around. We have been running the ball using a lot of power gap assignment plays and our offensive line can’t move big defensive limenen out of those gaps. Over the last 4 games the only time we have really had success with running has been using stretch plays where our speed is more important then size.

2. Orton struggles with pressure, we really knew this would happen. Orton doesn’t have the arm to punish teams for leaving the deep field open and going man cover on recievers so by blitzing heavily and jamming up the short middle Orton gets in trouble. He looked uncomfortable throwing the ball today and rarely was able to find a good outlet solution. Surprisingly we never saw Orton take advantage of a size mismatch on the outside with Marshall or Scheffler.

3. The protection scheme was outschemed. The Ravens clearly planned to come after Orton with a lot of firepower and leaving Ed Reed back to deal with screen plays. Twice we set up screen plays but both times our blockers were unable to keep Reed from blowing up our reciever. I am not sure what would have happened, but I would have liked to see us go with a max protection scheme early on to try to give Orton time to throw comfortably.

4. The secondary looked really bad all day. Goodman was awful and gave up a number of uncontested passes, the safeties were out of position on a number of plays and especially on the Mason TD the FS was badly out of position caught in the middle of the field with no Raven within 20 yards of him. Al Smith and Jack Williams both got beaten over the middle and both missed tackles, this wasn’t a good day for Denver cornerbacks.

5. The special teams have some special needs. Berger looked no better than Kern and was very close to getting kicks blocked several times, including sending one in between Ed Reeds arms. The blocking especially on punt returns is also pathetic. On one punt we moved extra blockers out and had 2 on 1 on the gunners, but even so both gunners were able to run completely unblocked down field, how the hell can 4 blockers not even knock 2 gunners out of course?

6. When Royal is capable of doing what he did against the Chargers, why the hell does he spend all day pretending to Michael Irvin on dancing with the stars against the Ravens? On most returns he runs more yards sideways and backwards than he does forwards.

7. It had to happen, we all knew we were going to lose a game this year and now we have. The key to keeping this season on track will be how we respond, we have the Steelers at home and that should help us.

by gyldenlove on Nov 1, 2009 6:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Gylden....I agree with you some, but it is TOTAL BS Orton does not have the arm to throw down field...

He bombed it down field his WHOLE career….you think he has magically lost his arm when he came to the NFL?

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by boydy2669 on Nov 2, 2009 12:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The worry warts

are out in full force. We are 6-1! Who wouldn’t have taken that seven weeks ago? We played poorly, but let’s give some credit to the Ravens. They played an exceptional game. My only concern is our new punter…what’s up with him?

by rocko1 on Nov 1, 2009 6:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The new punter sucks and hopefullly, Berger will be the ex-punter when we play next Sunday.

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by McGeorge on Nov 1, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This wasn't the situation we brought him in for.

Most of our punts this season have been from around midfield. In that case, Kern always kicked touchbacks. Berger doesn’t do that. He isn’t ideal for booting it out of our own endzone, but at the same time, he at least gives our coverage a chance to get to the return man before it comes a huge return.

I actually liked what I saw out of berger today. There were a lot of fair catches today. That’s good to see. It means your punter is doing a good job.

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by kentuckybronco on Nov 2, 2009 4:57 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I did not...he has a DREADFULLY slow release. I am hoping becsuse it is his first game back but he was DEAD lucky yesterday not have 3-4 kicks blocked!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 2, 2009 12:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well this sucks,

While the Broncos were able to score a TD after that, cutting the lead to 13-7, there was a feeling that I had that the Broncos just weren’t going to get it done.

I had the same feeling Guru and a statement was made on the first play of the game. While I am pissed like the rest of you guys about the loss, I figured we were going to lose so it sunk in before it was over.

We are 6-1 and I’ll take that any day of the week. Time to rebound. See what we are made of now.

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by weazel on Nov 1, 2009 7:36 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Better to lose to Baltimore

A team worthy of respect; no one-trick pretty SD or something like that.

I think Berger will prove to be a good decision in the end – give the guy >1 game to get back in football shape: we got him to make the accurate placement… Not to bail us out on 3-out!

I think this was more of a chess game: their plan nailed us, and their players truly brought it.

So we got schooled.

The fantastic thing about a young coach though is, well, the ability to learn. I have deep faith that this loss will still be paying dividends in how McD’s Broncos plan for, and execute a game for YEARS to come.

School indeed.

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by PositivIntegral on Nov 1, 2009 7:59 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

We will respond Monday

Melo putting a 40 Berger on Memphis feels better than Berger grossing 40( netting what??30?)

I will be shocked if these Broncos lose 2 in a row all year. So shake it off Bronco fans and continue to be positive. And relish the fact ESPN and MSM will take aim again.

by CastorTroy on Nov 1, 2009 8:40 PM MST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Silly Broncos

Thinking you could win against the Ravens. What were you thinking? Where’s your coach fist pumping now?

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by packerslayer on Nov 1, 2009 9:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Luckily, we did beat the chargers pats and cowboys already. That means we are 6-1.

What’s your record, by the way?

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by kentuckybronco on Nov 2, 2009 4:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You guys have one loss, too. How bout that?

Did we go over to your site when you lost to the steelers?

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by kentuckybronco on Nov 2, 2009 5:00 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

RAVENS

The ravens showed today why after week three they were ranked #1 in the power ranking poll. The last three weeks the defense played well enough to win but the referees killed them on penalties. They even tried it today but the defense played well enough to overcome the terrible calls. If the D plays this well the rest of the year I can’t see them losing until some time next season. If it wasn’t for dropped interceptions and sissy penalty calls this would have been a blowout shutout. When they called that personal foul on Oher I thought Tom Brady was standing nearby.

by TheShadow on Nov 1, 2009 11:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

While watching the game I wondered if playing at 11 am Mountain time had an effect on our intensity.

Our guys did not look like the fired-up guys that I am used to seeing. They seemed – for the most part – sluggish. Not everyone but many players. Give the Ravens credit – they came to play.
I would have liked to see O play calling to make their D’s intensity work to their disadvantage.
I was happy to see Hillis in for – I think – 3 plays on O. Nice to see Larsen back. I hope that Mitch Berger is better than we saw today.
We’ll be back next week against the Steelers.

by Blackknigh on Nov 1, 2009 11:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs


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