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Hi All

I have been an avid reader of this site since discovering it before the draft this year. All of your posts have greatly increased my knowledge of America's game and in particular the Denver Broncos. I have been an avid fan since NFL games were first broadcast in the UK in 1984. I chose the Broncos as my team because the uniforms were cool and because of number 7. My fickle friends chose Dan Marino or the Fridge, but i would not be swayed. I also came to think that the Broncos would always lose in Superbowls, but that agony was ended in 1998.

This site has helped to reignite my love of the game, and my knowledge now astounds my friends. Thank you to all of the contributors and posters.

In the last 3 years I have been to every Wembley game. I know what the fans think about the loss of a home game, especially when there are only 8 every year, but I have enjoyed every game, even though my beloved Broncos were not involved. The atmosphere is unique and I have proudly worn my number 24 Broncos jersey to every game. It is a festival of football with fans from all the NFL teams, although not as many Broncoheads as I would like. But I still don't think that attending these games is the real NFL.

I am lucky enough to have a friend who also likes the NFL almost as much as me, even if he is a Bears fan. We will be coming to America this Sunday to watch 3 NFL games; Eagles @ Bears, Giants @ Broncos and finally Bears @ Vikings. I do understand how lucky I am to be able to see one game, let alone 3, but I would like some advice on the following:

1) Can I wear my blue Broncos jersey to all 3 games or will this cause problems with fans in Chicago and Minneapolis?

2) I don't have any orange clothing, so is it obligatory for Mile High or can I wear my number 24 Blue jersey? 

3) My friend likes to drink warm (locally brewed) beer rather than the corporate stuff. Can anyone recommend places to find this in Denver/Chicago/Minneapolis?

4) What are the rules on tailgating and how can we get involved/invited?

5) After the trouble that some Broncos fans had at the Ravens, is there any stadium protocols that we need to be aware of?

I know that this post is long winded and does not bring anything to the Broncos debate, but I do appreciate the hard work put into this site and would ask that you all keep up the good work.

Also don't depair over the 3 game losing streak. We should have beaten the Redskins and would have if Kyle had not been injured. Keep the faith and we will make the play offs! 

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Nice!

That sounds like an awesome trip, Cockney. And hopefully you and your friend will see some wins for your respective teams.

I’ll let the experts comment on the other stuff, but I can help you out with local watering holes here in Chicago.

Local breweries include:
1) Goose Island – who make a beer called 312 (our area code), seasonal stuff, and higher end stuff like a belgian style brew called Matilda (recommended)
2) Rock Bottom Brewery – solid beer, brewed on site. I haven’t been there in awhile so I don’t quite remember their selection, but I think it rotates. One of my friends used to be a brewmaster there and he always brought back solid stuff. Decent food to boot.

Other watering holes that I love:
1) Quenchers – http://www.quenchers.com/
2) Hop Leaf – http://www.hopleaf.com/
3) Kuma’s – http://www.kumascorner.com/

Quenchers has a huge selection of local and national/international beers, but not much in way of food options.

I highly recommend Hop Leaf, though FYI, most of their selection is European while it sounds like you are looking for local American varieties. However, I would still recommend them as their food, ambiance, and beer selection is out of this world. Be prepared for a wait however, so if you want food, try and go a bit earlier.

Kuma’s has a solid selection domestic beers and burgers that will rock your world. I mean, I’m talking about burgers that you can only eat once every 3 months… anymore than that, and you’ll likely die a young man… though you’ll die happy that’s for sure.

;)

Enjoy!!!!

by tunga77 on Nov 19, 2009 7:47 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

lots of options

Tunga, we will be in Chicago for 4 days, so will hopefully be able to sample most if not all of your suggestions. It will be my first trip to the States, so I may do a post about my experiences after I have returned home.

thank you for your input

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No prob! Enjoy it and safe travels!

If you go to Hop Leaf, order the “CB&J” (cashew butter and fig jam) sandwich, the mussels, and a side of frites with garlic aoli. Guaranteed, one of the better meals you’ll have on the trip. ;)

by tunga77 on Nov 19, 2009 1:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be awesome.

Please let us know how your trip goes. I think once you come to Denver, you’ll fall in love. I am an aspiring (european) football fan and I follow Liverpool. You’re very lucky to have stumbled upon this site because in my opinion, you will not get better insight on the game (not just the Broncos) anywhere else (except possibly the National Football Post).

I hope we have been great ambassadors, and I’m glad to hear that at least one ticket overseas isn’t being wasted on the annual European NFL game!

Safe travels and let us know how it goes.

by legendarywalton on Nov 19, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for your thoughts

and I love this site because I keep on learning from everyone that contributes. For 20 odd years I didn’t understand the intricacies of the play and always blamed the qb for the sack and the rb for not getting the short yardage. I now understand more of the intricacies and that it is the ultimate team game

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not a brewery

But if you are going to be spending time in Chicago, you should see if you can manage to have a bite at Hot Dougs – pretty quintessencial Chicago.

http://www.hotdougs.com/

Although the lines can be very long…

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Nov 19, 2009 2:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but go on a Fri or Sat

for their Fries, fried in duck fat

/drools.

by tunga77 on Nov 19, 2009 3:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks Kitten

will put it on the list of things to try and fit in

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 4:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm jealous

That is going to be one sweet trip.

Go ahead and wear your blue jersey to all 3 games. No need to have a Orange one for Mile High. I would recommend checking the team store out while you are at the stadium. When going to the away games, be courteous. Act like a visitor in there house. When the Bears and Vikings have a good play, congratulate the fans around you. Make some friends. It’s not like you are going to the Black Hole. That is a scary place. ;)

Wish I could help with the others. If you come to Utah, I could help. Have fun and do a Fan Post of your trip.

by Beer30Bronco on Nov 19, 2009 8:23 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Beer30Bronco

Thank you for your thoughts. As a neutral at the two Bears games I can just enjoy the moment and appreciate the good plays of both sides. I will be pleased to represent the Broncos inall 3 games

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats!

I’ll try to field these
1) Fly your colors proudly! Never hide your support for the Broncos!
2) Blue is fine. You can check out the team store at the stadium and at least buy some socks.
3) Let it sit for a half hour after you order it. If you set it in your crotch, it should warm up faster.
4) Show up early with beer. With enough beer, you can just join someone else’s tailgate.
5) Just be courteous to the other fans.

Go Broncos!

by Royal With Cheese on Nov 19, 2009 9:00 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

LOL at number 3

Knowing my luck that would be the point when we score a TD and my crotch will get wet!
Thanks for your input

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds like a great trip

I’m definitely a fan of Breckenridge Brewery, and they are located just a few miles from Invesco if you’re looking for a place to grab a brew (their 471 IPA is pretty tasty). There’s several other breweries in the area – I’d just suggest looking up Denver area breweries on google and find one that brews beer you think you’d enjoy. You pretty much can’t go wrong, as most microbreweries have a pretty good selection. I know Flying Dog has a brewpub in Denver, and they are a pretty successful microbrewery (nationally distributed) that makes some good beers. Sorry that I can’t give you better information, but I’m not a Denver local so most of what I know is from my trips through and from what I can buy out of state.

As far as wearing a Broncos jersey to the games – You definitely won’t have any trouble in Denver and you’ll probably just get some funny looks at the other two games. I doubt anyone will give you a hard time about it.

That sounds like a fun trip, and I hope you guys have a lot of fun. I also second the motion to put up a fanpost after the fact – I’d like to hear how it went.

by hai17 on Nov 19, 2009 9:03 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

hai17 I will try to do a diary (old fashioned blog) and then write a post on my return

Thanks for your suggestions and I may try to give a rating on each beer I drink.
I think my judgement will definitely disappear after the first 10 pints!

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly

Flying Dog has picked up their operation and moved to Maryland. However, it enabled a great in their own right (and better in my opinion) brewery-Great Divide to take over the market share. If you are a fan of quality, high gravity beers, they are a must visit.

by abroncosfanatic on Nov 19, 2009 5:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

To add to the other suggestions

You should be welcome at just about any Tailgate Party, especially with your accent. Just explain that you are UK football fans come to enjoy your first Live American Football and tailgating experience and I would bet you are welcome anywhere. You will probably get a taste of the regional cuisine. You may want to sample a genuine Pizza “Pie” in Chicago, for example. It sounds like the trip of the year. Have lots of fun Cockney!

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Nov 19, 2009 10:15 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the response Kirk

Will give the pizza pie a try and let you know what I think about it

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

I’ve been to chicago a few times (being only 200 miles away or so) and you have to get pizza while you are there. I recommend Pizzeria Uno or Giordano’s. Lot’s of people say that Gino’s Pizza is the best in Chicago, and you are welcome to try it, but personally, I think that Pizzeria Uno is the best. If you don’t get deep dish pizza while you are there, natives of Chicago probably won’t let you out until you’ve tried some.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.

by kentuckybronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Just don't have more than 2 slices

Those things are ridiculously fattening. ;)

by tunga77 on Nov 19, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, that goes without saying.

After he saw the size of the pie, it would be obvious how much of it should be consumed at one time.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.

by kentuckybronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

you'd *think* it goes without saying!

But I knew a guy once who split an entire Medium Giordana’s stuffed with his girlfriend. I had to leave the room after their 3rd piece. =/

by tunga77 on Nov 19, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Dang.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.

by kentuckybronco on Nov 19, 2009 2:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

have a great time dude

as a fellow Brit, I’m very envious, have a great time.

also, I think your US trip just about beats Palace vs Watford on Saturday week ;)

and the sing along songs will be our scriptures - we gotta stay positive!

by Orange & Blue Badger on Nov 19, 2009 10:32 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Orange and Blue

As a Palace Season ticket holder and long suffering fan, I can tell you that watching paint dry sometimes beats the dross that they serve up. But you can’t chose your team when you have lived within walking distance of the ground since the age of 9. I blame my parents for not warning me about the dangers of supporting a small club

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen, dude

I blame being a Pompey fan on my Dad for the same reason! Though I wouldn’t change them for a ‘big’ team for all the money in the world and I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t trade Palace either.

and the sing along songs will be our scriptures - we gotta stay positive!

by Orange & Blue Badger on Nov 19, 2009 4:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy

1) Can I wear my blue Broncos jersey to all 3 games or will this cause problems with fans in Chicago and Minneapolis?

-You can but I wouldn’t recommend wearing a Broncos jersey to a game not including the Broncos. You won’t be heckled as much as you would in the UK but you’ll look out of place. Pick a team (if you’re neutral, pick the home team) and root your guts out for them, even if you are a Broncos fan, you’ll have more fun.

2) I don’t have any orange clothing, so is it obligatory for Mile High or can I wear my number 24 Blue jersey?

-Wear your Bailey Jersey. Buy some gear at the stadium store.

3) My friend likes to drink warm (locally brewed) beer rather than the corporate stuff. Can anyone recommend places to find this in Denver/Chicago/Minneapolis?

- There are a ridiculous amount of local beers brewed in Colorado. Try a Fat Tire (and a Coors) then just ask the bartenders what’s good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_breweries

Goose Island is a cool brewery in Chicago. You’ll see the taps at the bar are shaped in the head of a goose.

Not sure about Minnesota.

4) What are the rules on tailgating and how can we get involved/invited?

- Show up the tailgate with enough beers to share and you can join a tailgate. Walk around a bit and try to find a good group.

5) After the trouble that some Broncos fans had at the Ravens, is there any stadium protocols that we need to be aware of?

- That seems like an exception to the rule, as stated above, just be respectful of other fans (especially women and children). This isn’t the UK and there are no football hooligans. While there are plenty of drinkers at the games, it’s also a family affair.

Message me before the Broncos-Giants game if you need to know of some places to go in Denver. Maybe you can join our tailgate, as well. Denver may be a ghost town that day/night because of Thanksgiving, but the game should still be good.

by gras on Nov 19, 2009 11:15 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the offer Gras

I have always been generous where beer is concerned so if you let me know where you will be tailgating we could drop by and share a brew

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

bfree2bronc Is it colder in Denver of Chicago?

In London we think 10 celsius is cold. I have bought enough thermal clothing to open my own store. Thanks for the tip.

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Chicago is always colder.

They’re right off of a lake and the moisture cuts you to the bone. Denver is semi-arid, so even when it’s below freezing, it isn’t terrible. Chicago’s late fall and early winter are absolutely brutal. People die from falling icicles!

by legendarywalton on Nov 19, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome

Sounds like a spectacular trip!

1. Your jersey will be fine at all three games, but be careful about the smell ;-(
2. Blue is fine, but buy an orange something (scarf, hat, pom pom)
3. Good beer? If you want to stay in the stadium neighborhood, try the Wynkoop Brewing Company (local) in LoDo, Rock Bottom Brewery (national chain) on the 16th St. Mall, Breckenridge Brewery (local) at 471 Kalamath St.
4. Tailgating is in the parking lot of the stadium. It is OK to wander about and ingratiate yourself. (better if you bring your own beer & brats)
5. Always be a good guest. Do unto others, ya know? Don’t stand up through the whole game, spill beer and jeer at the homeboys. This isn’t like European soccer mosh pits.

When in Chicago, check out the blues district (Maxwell Street & Halsted) You will NOT be sorry. Some of the greatest blues musicians in the world perform there every night. Try some Chicago style pizza (I especially like Burt’s Place, 8541 N. Ferris, Morton Grove, IL) Some of the steak and BBQ places are great too. If you are in the mood, Chicago has a terrific museum not far from the stadium (Field Museum of Natural History).

Minneapolis? Hmmm. Really good polish food, OK beer ( http://mnbeer.com/ ). Check out the Mall of the Americas.

Like bfree suggests, bring warm clothing or buy it here. It is even colder, in fact MUCH MUCH colder in Chicago & Minneapolis because it is more humid and windy than Denver. I spent my first three years after moving to Denver without needing a winter coat. Assuming you are from London, you will be in for a major shock in the cold and windy Soldier Field stadium of Chicago. Not so much in Minneapolis.since they are an indoor stadium, but getting there and getting around can be bitter cold.

When in Denver, try to get up into the mountains, weather permitting. The easiest is to rent a car and drive up I-70 to Dillon and back. Fantastic views! For a great steak, try the oldest restaurant in Denver, the Buckhorn Exchange (stuffed animals on the walls, buffalo, elk, quail, “mountain oysters”, sometimes more exotic stuff on the menu), or The Chop House downtown lodo area (not far from Wynkoop).

PLEASE post after, hopefully with some pics of you guys wildly cheering after each win!

by Endzone on Nov 19, 2009 12:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

endzone thanks for your advice

As above I will start with the best of intentions to write some diary notes (long flights to fill) and then try and write a post or series of posts about our experiences. I know its going to be very cold in Chicago and thats my worst fear for the whole trip of sitting there for 3 hours in the cold and wind. I hope its a great game so I can keep getting up and jumping around

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Denver Weather

Latest forecast in Denver for Thursday is 51degrees Fahrenheit (10.5 celcius) and sunny during the day. Evening lows should be about 29 degrees. (-1.6 celcius). Denver is amazing. Beautiful blue skies almost year-round. Sem-arid (not as much as before the 90’s).

I always pay special attention to my feet and hands in cold weather and of course a warm hat. Those battery powered electric socks are actually a pretty good idea when you know you’re going to be sitting and not slogging through the snow.

(ps-I used to live in the St. Johns Wood Park area)

by Endzone on Nov 19, 2009 3:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

nice part of London Endzone

I live in the south-east of London where London taxis refuse to go

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 4:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Were you born born within hearing distance of the bells of St. Mary Le Bow, Cheapside, in the City of London? I wouldn’t wear your costermonger outfit to the games (plus you wouldn’t make it through airport screening). And did you ever find Jack the Ripper?

by Endzone on Nov 19, 2009 4:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

not really a cockney

but the whole world including other brits believe that anyone from London is a cockney, so it was easier to go with the flow. In fact I’m a Sarfie and speak with a completely different accent to those from East London.

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 6:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Drive

I do not recommend you guys try to drive and park at the stadium. Take a cab or take the Denver Light Rail to the nearest stop to the stadium. Then just follow the crowd. Stash your beer in backpacks and remember you can’t take it into the stadium with you.

by Endzone on Nov 19, 2009 3:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Fortnight

Sounds like you guys are doing a fortnight trip. Isn’t that usually reserved for someone getting married? (UK equivalent of bachelor’s night out is 10 days of wild abandon). I remember spending a weekend running into and sharing far too much beer and shots with a group of lads from Sheffield who were relatively well behaved miscreants celebrating their mate’s pending wedding. (Benidorm, Spain).

by Endzone on Nov 19, 2009 4:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

only 8 days.

Just trying to relive our mispent youth. We have been friends since we worked together at a well known American Burger chain with a double golden arch when we were 18. Now 20 years later he has a very good job and is treating me. I helped him out over the years when he was experiencing tough times and needed financial help.
I guess the proverb you reao what you sow is correct in this instance. He wants to do it every year and visit every NFL stadia, but I am not sure if my girlfriend will accept it every year. Fingers crossed

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 6:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Golden Arches

I fondly remember two American burger places opening in London. McDonalds at Marble Arch and The Hard Rock Cafe. Before then it was nothing but Wimpy Burgers. yuck.

by Endzone on Nov 19, 2009 6:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sarfie

Yep. I am not completely Londonized. What is a Sarfie?

by Endzone on Nov 19, 2009 6:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If you want some good burgers, Chicago's the place to be

1) Kuma’s
2) Boston Blackie’s
3) Moody’s Pub

Can you tell I love food and beer? ;)

by tunga77 on Nov 20, 2009 7:29 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a former beer afficianado
My friend likes to drink warm (locally brewed) beer rather than the corporate stuff. Can anyone recommend places to find this in Denver/Chicago/Minneapolis?

In Denver, the best beer in that category is probably the Wynkoop Brewing Company. It’s not far from the stadium, in the lower downtown (called ‘LoDo) area. They are the only brewpub I’m familiar with that starts with a true English yeast and also serves (on request) via a beer engine and at proper cellar temp. I’ve had many a fine pint there and recommend it highly.

Good luck, and safe journey on your trip. All the best to you!

Moreno/Buckhalter in '09

by Emmett Smith on Nov 19, 2009 1:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Wynkoop is the tops

"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"

by Colorado_Kitten on Nov 19, 2009 2:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the advice Emmett

Will hopefully be able to provide feedback on how it compares to English Beer

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 1:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Jerseys

Every town is defferent, man. I went to the Redskins game in DC last week (brutal loss), and was amazed to see Cowboys fans walking around wearing Romo jerseys with no fear. Skins fans gave us a VERY hard time after the game was over. They don’t win often, so you kinda forgive them. They pretty much shut up when I retorted that Campbell’s best pass of the season was a handoff in the 2nd quarter. They agree he sucks.
Also, I was in Chicago last year walking down the street and saw a couple with Cowboys jerseys on and just as I was telling my gf, “I can’t believer they can get away with that in this town.” A guy drives buy and yells out where they can ****** Romo’s * and ** to ** **. Anyway, sounded painful.
Point is you’ll be fine wearing your Bailey jersey wherever but be prepared for some heckling. I agree with somebody’s comment above that you might have more fun in the other times just cheering for the home team. Make some friends.

by JohnElwayOverdrive on Nov 19, 2009 3:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

advice taken on board Overdrive

Also I can now say that I received advice from JohnElway

by CockneyBronco on Nov 19, 2009 4:19 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A couple of general rules of thumb to live by...

1. Always sport your orange and blue everywhere you go, especially into hostile territory. Wear it with pride and glory, always.

2. When in doubt refer to rule #1.

Welcome to MHR my brother!!

by c2c75 on Nov 19, 2009 4:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Have a great trip CockneyB!

Nice to see another South London Bronco around these parts!!!
Make sure you let us know how it went!!

by vanbrugh on Nov 20, 2009 8:51 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I have the misfortune of living in Penge.

But grew up in Norwood. Which part are you from?

by CockneyBronco on Nov 20, 2009 9:01 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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