The Lynch Perspective - Week 8
Welcome to another edition of the Lynch Perspective. This one will be a less than positive version, which is to be expected after a 30-7 blowout loss. It's also a couple of days early since I have finals coming up next week and wanted to make sure I got my, uh, hobby out of the way.
Today, I will be recapping the Baltimore-Denver game, Homerism and the fickleness of the fanbase, the rest of Week 8 in the NFL and preview the upcoming Pittsburgh game.
To see how my opinion stands up to the test of time, check out my previous perspectives:
The Lynch Perspective - Week 7, Week 6
Let's get on with it...
Denver Broncos @ Baltimore Ravens Recap
First off, let me begin by saying that our defense is easily a Top 5 defense and will keep us close in most tough games. Our guys did everything possible to hold on long enough for the offense to do something, unfortunately, our offense checked out Sunday - no one was home.
The defense held the score to 6-0 at halftime after the Baltimore defense dominated the entire half. Then our guys on defense still came out and held things together all the way until midway through the fourth quarter when the wheels finally came off. I place zero blame on the D for this loss, in fact, I am even more impressed by the quality and physical nature of our Doom & Gloom defense.
In fact, the score should have been 9-7 midway through the fourth quarter, but once again, our unSpecial Teams gave up another costly touchdown return and not only that, our newfound savior at the punting position consistently set the Ravens up with excellent field position.
I lost count of the 35 yard punts in this game, but it seemed like the Ravens offense was consistently starting right around their own 40 yard line. Though our defense held a majority of the time, it would be too much to ask any unit to hold any NFL offense to less than 25 yards of offense in each and every possession. I'd rather have one or two punt returns a year than never having a punt travel longer than 35 yards. Sorry, but field position is more than just unreturnable punts.
Which leads me to the lackluster play from our offensive unit. I learned something Sunday that I suspected, but never was able to prove until now. Our offense is finese. I would say soft, but that seems too harsh - though it may be more accurate than I want to admit right now.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that it will struggle against physical defenses like the Ravens, Steelers, and Giants. Before Sunday, I thought we matched up better against the Steelers than the Colts, but now I think we have a better shot at beating the Colts than the Steelers this year.
The reason for this is that the Colts offense doesn't match up well against physical defenses either and the Broncos defense is far superior in physicality than the Colts defense. While the Steeler offense matches up much better against physical defenses than does the Broncos offense. Losing to Pittsburgh won't be the end of the world, but it will be important not to allow the season slip away if a loss against the Steelers does occur.
Right now, it is wholly apparent that the easiest way to beat the Broncos offense is to rattle Orton. With pressure, Orton regresses to the quarterback that most Bear fans thought him to be. It is imperative that the Broncos coaches figure out how to firm up the interior part of our offensive line - Ben Hamilton was just awful Sunday.
Homerism
I noticed on MHR Sunday that fans were quickly dividing into two groups. Those that live and die with each play and express their opinions in that way - which includes myself - and those that look at the big picture and do not get too worked up over one bad game - most of the MHR staff fits into this category - and the divide over how to correctly act during a bad game.
I actually found this divide amusing because most of us have been watching football long enough to know that the game was slipping away rapidly during the long interlude between Baltimore's third quarter field goal to make the score 16-7 and Baltimore's touchdown midway through the fourth quarter that made the score 23-7. I even said as much in the threads that the game was lost. Sure it was the third quarter, but I could tell that our guys were spent and the Ravens were unrelenting.
Then I followed up with, "Without a game changing play, this game is over." and I was right. The intensity was sapped completely from our offensive players and you could see it in their eyes. Our defense was still fighting hard, but by the fourth quarter that sapped energy spread to our defense. You can only do so much when half the team no longer thinks they can win. Half the game is mental. We all saw that, but we all reacted in different ways to it.
So I hope that just because some of us get so emotionally wrapped up in the game that we overreact to each play doesn't make us "less of a fan" than someone who keeps a level head about things. I am not an emotional guy in the least, but come Sunday it all comes out at once. I can't help it and neither can half the people in the threads!
My suggestion, ignore those people(myself included) and chit chat with people who share your worldview on fandom. I know I ignore all "common sense" or "level-headed" responses in the threads on game day. Pick and choose who to respond to. ;)
Week 8 in the NFL
The only early game I had on tv, besides the Bronco-Raven feed online, was the Colts-49ers game. If there was a ever a game that Peyton Manning deserved to lose, it was that one. The 49ers defense playing hard and won the battle at the line, but way too many field goals and a gimmick play won the day for the Colts. I think the Colts are likely the third or fourth best team in the AFC despite their record and they will finally get tested in the second half of the season.
Surprisingly, the Colts will face competition from the Houston Texans this year for the division title. I don't believe they have faced each other yet and the Texans are starting to get hot. As a Gary Kubiak fan, I will be pulling for him to finally turn that program around and challenge the Colts. The Texans have always played the Colts tough too.
Oh and I hate Brett Favre and God is certainly no Packer fan. I've decided to root against the Vikings for the rest of the year, but only when they are not playing the Bears. Oh, and speaking of the Bears; they are 4-3 - about to be 4-4, following the path of the 2008 Broncos!
I had an up and down week in the MHR pick'em league and was mostly disappointed by my so-called "upset picks". Which brings me to the point of this section today - Three teams that I hate.
I hate the Arizona Cardinals - Please figure out who the F you are. I hate the Buffalo Bills - You suck! I hate the Packers - You let Favre come into your house and embarrass you, YOU ARE FIRED and stink like rotten cheese!
Let's close out this section with the Rams-Lions recap. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Can the NFL promote Boise State and Oregon and demote the Rams and Lions please? hahahahahaha! I'm such a jerk!
Pittsburgh Steelers @ Denver Broncos Preview
As I talked about last week, I was slightly concerned about the "big play" - or really any play over 10 yards. This week, our defense held mightily until the fourth quarter where a majority of the nine 10+ yard plays and three 20+ yard plays occurred. I am no longer concered. This defense will hold the big play in check most of the time.
However, there is a trend that is a cause for concern now. The trend goes like this: 7, 6, 3, 10, 17, 23, 30. That is about the worst trend you could want. Our defense is playing well, but also starting to surrender a lot of points. It didn't help that the Ravens had a short field on nearly every drive thanks in large part to the huge leg of our new punter(he who must not be named). This trend must be stopped immediately or even our hopes of the AFC West could come into doubt within the next few weeks.
If giving up one touchdown more in each of the last five weeks isn't too much of a concern for you, how about the way our offense was completely dominated by the Ravens. That doesn't bode well heading into a matchup with the equally physical defense of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I feel like our defense, once again, matches up well against the Steelers offense, but since I feel like our Broncos offense lacks a power run game and appears to be soft against more physical teams, it doesn't appear to match up well against the superior Steeler defense.
The game should be much closer than yesterday though, since the Broncos will be at home and on Monday Night Football, not to mention the hell week they will no doubt endure this week from McDaniels, but until the Broncos offense can prove to me it can move the ball against a Top 5 defense, I'm going to have to say our team may lose next week. I'll go with a 13-10 loss for now.
Before I am crucified, let me say that the season is not lost even with a loss next week. I still think we match up very well against the Colts and 11-12 wins should be expected. Really though, all of my future opinions hinge on the outcome of next weeks game. Either my suspicions about the softness of our offense will be confirmed or it will be proven that you can't take anything from just one game.
I'm here to give me gut feeling and instinct based on my years of watching the game. Right or wrong, I gave my opinion.
UPDATE: I should have pointed out that 6-1 still sounds real gooooood.
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thank you sir!
i’m sure this must’ve been hard to write. hopefully it’ll be on a more positive note next week :)
I am hoping for the same!
I held back mostly…..besides, I don’t like using the * character over and over again. lol
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Something to consider:
The 7, 6, 3, 10, 17, 23, 30 actually goes
7, 6, 3, 10, 17, 16, 23 if you take out special teams touchdowns. The defense wasn’t responsible for those.
"In the topsy-turvy world of heavy rock, having a good solid piece of wood in your hand is often useful." -Ian Faith
True, but the final scores is all that matters in the grand scheme...
Our ST has serious problems right now, no doubt about it. Prater can’t seem to get the ball into the end zone on kick offs, and our punter can’t kick the ball back to the line of scrimmage.
I consider the points to be a team trend more than a defensive trend, but our D is giving up more points each week(with the exception of the SD game which was basically unchanged from the previous week).
I’m still concerned nonetheless. I need a very good 13-10 ball game…win or lose. lol
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granted
The defense is giving up more points in the past few weeks, but that also has a lot to do with the quality of offenses they have played. When our offense cant sustain drives and the defense gets worn down that is going to reflect the final score. I think Baltimore is an abberation. The 23 Denver gave up to SD is pretty good considering how few offensive plays Denver had in the first half. The Ravens (imo) has been the 2nd best team the Broncos have played this year. Yet, Denver lost on the road. It was bound to happen, have a bad game. I was hoping it would have been not after a bye, but I am thinking we are gonna find out what this Bronco team is made of. I believe they will beat Pitt, and then the next 3 games following. I still think the offense needs more out of the running game. But Denver is going to exceed my expectations, plus SD is worse than anyone (MSM) will admit. When their defense make Jamarcus the Hutt think he had a good game i feel good about Denvers prospects for the AFC West. Plus you know SD is panicing when they cut Chambers
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 2, 2009 4:20 PM MST up reply actions
They cut Chris Chambers?
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Sure did
Its epic that they wait until after a win against a horrible raider team that allowed over 300 yards rushing to the Jets (LT couldnt muster over 56 against them) and beat oakland by 8 (12 in TWO games whereas Denver has outscored Oakland by 20 in ONE game) Not too mention after playing the faders and chefs Merriodman thinks he has got his groove back. What a friggin joke. I hope the Giants DESTROY those (to borrow your phrase) those paper tigers
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 2, 2009 4:33 PM MST up reply actions
I love paper tigers.
I wonder if the Giants pick Chambers up Wednesday. lol
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Nice Post
The 7, 6, 3, 10, 17, 23, 30 trend has a lot to do with teams not getting tape of what Denver is doing on defense and noticing trends. The Ravens pass protected much better than other teams had, so future opponents will study it and probably use some of the same technique.
Also, they started the season against last years 3 worst offenses. The average points given up for the last 4 games is 20, which is probably about where I can see the Bronco D finishing. Still, way better defense than last years group of non-tackers.
The offense has been a disappointment thus far, but I really didn’t think it would begin to come together until the second half of the season. I’m missing the zone blocking scheme running game of the past and can see teams continuing to pressure Orton until his accuracy downfield improves. Seems that the Broncos have an utter lack of explosiveness and teams or recognizing that.
I see where you are coming from and I can't disagree...
I hope you’re wrong about the 20 pts per game average though. lol I’d rather see 15 or lower….
We certainly miss a power run game…have for at least the last three seasons.
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the ravens oline is the best all around unit we have faced all year
I wouldn’t worry about too many teams duplicating that. :)
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 2, 2009 3:59 PM MST up reply actions
You gonna watch that Michael Orher movie thats coming out? :)
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Definitely.
What a story. I’m reading the book and I can’t put it down…………well, except to come to MHR.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
i only have time to read text books lately....
I’ll catch the movie I think…on DVD.
I like feel good stories.
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That's understandable.
I’ve been reading more since going to college than I ever had before. Textbooks, novels, biographies, everything. It really is a great book. This is one of the best feel good stories I’ve ever heard. I just hope the movie does it justice. From the previews, it looks like a winner.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If you were to read a book I would suggest this one.
I like the story of Michael Oher but I also like the authors analysis of the way that the game has changed from a run heavy to pass heavy with a strong emphasis on how the premier left tackle and pass rusher have become such an integral part of a successful program.
by ColoradoAggie11 on Nov 2, 2009 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe its just me,
but I got the feeling they were being too careful, or cautious, on offense. They seem to be afraid of letting the “Big Play” happen – on both sides of the ball.
However, I bet we see the team play with more passion and abandon next Monday now that they have a loss under the belt. Now they can play to win rather than trying not to lose.
That’s what I liked about Shanny. He’d go for that improbable 4th and short or the late 2-point conversion. He was daring in his earlier years with the Broncos.
What we saw yesterday was the limit of the “game manager.” For Orton to be a top QB, he needs to take the next step and lead the team via some higher risk plays. That’s what makes upper echelon QBs like Elway and Favre. For the most part they are “game managers” but they also know how and when to make the game-changing big plays.
Most of us remember THE DRIVE. At any point of that possession, failure to move the ball meant the end of the game and the end of Denver’s part in the playoffs. In a sense, every play there was a “big play.” Elway knew that to win that game, he had to lead the horses every step of the way. And he did. He couldn’t just manage at that point. He had to make the big plays. And he did.
Either Orton needs to step up or McD needs to take off the leash. I’m not sure which.
In any case, we’re still well on our way to a respectable season and a playoff slot!
Spot on!
I forgot to touch on this point. This offense is SOOOOO 2006 Jake Plummer-esque. I need to see the big play. Throw the ball deep a few times a game. The Ravens never really gave Orton time to throw, but he was intent on dink and dunking us to death…a 30-7 death.
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Be EMOTIONAL!
Football is a game, it is there for us to escape the confines of real life. If you are emotional at work you get fired – emotional in your marriage and your spouse packs up and leaves -- this is the place to let out the whoops and hollers, and to vent the frustrations.
We are one.
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I think your putting too much into one game.
I think that the Raven were just really desperate and pumped and our guys just didn’t have enough intensity. I’m not worried about the D because we played two great offenses that can put up a ton of points (NE and SD) and Baltimore is very good too.
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
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You could be right...
I think alot of my questions and concerns will be addressed next week – then I will have a whole slew of new questions and concerns to ponder.
You know you love the 35 yard punts! Say it!
I am not the “big picture” kind of guy either. I look at things incrementally. The big picture tells me things are good and moving forward nicely…but I can’t help but nit pick at any of the little things that are tripping our team up along the way.
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haha the punts
Ok some of those are getting annoying, but i think that it won’t matter once our O gets back on track. Then Berger will be doing what he’s better at: placement.
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
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touche
its hard to be a placement kicker when you’re kicking from your own twenty….still….he only had one chance for a placement kick all game. it was a good one, but the other 57 punts we had sucked! heh
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yeah..
don’t remind me about how we had to punt 10,000 times..
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
Our punting cures
35 yards net is NOT NFL material …. period! We had a kid in HS playing goal, from inside the penalty box he routinely put the ball in the box in the other end. I see lots of kids that can get the distance, and I dare say I can probably line one out that far today. There is not a rule that says the ball has to come down in bounds, but that little bit of greed for the extra yards by kicking straight seems to mean most are put in the feild of play. So why not find some kid that can kick it ugly, low, and 65 yards on a rope? Teach him to kick it out of bounds and hope for a net/gross of 40 to 45 yards and no chance for a return. He should not be hard to find, just go to Latin America and find some back up goal tender with a good leg and pay him NFL mins – he does not have to know English, and he will suddenly be a millionair in the eyes of his friends and family.
Great Post...Tough week for everyone...Rec'd
Don’t normally comment much, but I am compelled…
We all knew that this was going to be a tough stretch in our schedule and back in August most everyone here at MHR would have been thrilled (if not expecting) to be 8-8 to 9-7 tops, for this season…One game does not make an NFL season and we still have alot of football yet to be played before we really know just how good McDaniels/Nolan and these Broncos are going to be…
One thing that I think McD and the Broncos have shown, is that they have continued to learn and get better (this week not withstanding) week to week, and I suspect that this loss will be quite the learning experience for them all…Losing is part of winning in that it makes you look at yourselves in such a way that it helps build the character that it takes to learn enough from said loss, to help you do what it takes to go out and win the next game…Set backs are part of life, but they’re not the end of the world (season)…
Let us not forget that, even though it is important to play good football during the season so that you have the chance to play in the post season, it is even MORE important that you have learned all of your lessons (in wins AND losses) well enough, that you are able to play your BEST football in the post season and hopefully, February!
I know...I am a homer - high as a kite one week, going to the emergency room the next.
There is no middle ground with me sometimes. I’ll be right back on the 13-3 train when we win next week….my 13-10 predicted loss will turn into a 34-3 beatdown statement game for the Broncos come Friday afternoon…. ;-)
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The east coast factor.
Teams from one coast playing on the other coast were 14-25 in 2008. Only three of the 14 wins were by west coast teams playing on the east coast. I know Denver is not on the west coast but it’s still a long flight and a change of two time zones.
Anyway, let’s see what happens Monday night when the Steelers have to come to Mile High.
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I have always had a bad feeling in my gut
when Denvr played an early road game… whichof course includes every time we have played the Ravens away, where we are (0-4). There is defnitely something to the timezone change, coupled with daylight savings time and travel… for that reason I personally liked what appeared to me to be Denver’s strategy to weather the early emotional intensity of the Ravens. I didn’t feel that Denver needed to ‘match’ them as much as Denver needed to manipulate and corral them…let the Ravens wear down, make sure to run plenty of misdirection and long pursuit plays (which Denver was doing), and go into the fourth quarter with the Ravens running on fumes and a chance to take or extend a lead.
Of course, three things directly affected that plan:
The first was the fact that the Ravens maintained that level of intensity all game, so Kudos to them.
The second was that Denver failed to execute pass containment defense and pass protection on the lines all game, which led to a lot of mistakes on both sides of the ball. Baltimore fed off of those mistakes to keep their energy levels high. I think if we had executed better, wven without necessarily scoring more points,the plan to let baltimore wear out would have been successful, since it was working right up until…
The third problem, which was yet another kick return for a TD allowed by Mike Priefer’s special teams coverage unit. Our special teams looks slow and uncoordinated out there, and on returns teams they don’t look capable of geting in front of the guys they need to be blocking. Very troubling…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 2, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
ST.....just thinking about that unit irritates me.
Funny things…2008 I accepted it as reality. Boy things change quick…by things I mean expectations.
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Styg, That's not just a feeling man, it's reality
I will do a post on this soon, but they really do SUCK during this time frame. There is a reason your spider senses are tingling….it’s reality.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Good perspective
Every time our offense was on the field it was pure chaos. I can’t remember to many plays where we maintained the line of scrimmage, run or pass. Hard to throw deep throwing off your back foot. I’m going to give the punt game another week before I criticize. However I do feel we will see the difference between Orton and Cutler this week. Orton will learn from last week, and bring the team together. I truly feel Baltimore doomed the Steelers this week. When leaders face adversity they rise above,not fall to the ground. Our team is finally full of leaders.
We went to Baltimore with a sub-par game plan, and it was played out on the field even worse. Not going to happen this week, expect McDaniels to have hell of a game plan(maybe some Wild Horse)B-Dawk to be all over the place and in everyones face, 3 sacks from DOOOOM, and Orton to lead our offense. I’m predicting a 27-10 win, not because I’m a homer.
Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009
Ok, I got 13-10...
Its only been an hour or two since I finished this post, but my prediction has changed from a 13-10 loss next week to the Steelers to a 13-10 win.
Not the first change in my prediction…I am sure. lol
I love being a homer.
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The only thing I can muster with regards to that game...
A deep, long, sigh.
Our D should not get hung out on this one. When your offense can’t control the ball and you’re constantly forced into bad spots you’re going to get tired.
Our first half Drives: (TOP, Starting FP, Plays, Yds, Result)
1st Quarter
2:02 DEN 31 3 plays -1 yds Punt
1:36 DEN 20 3 plays 3 yds Punt
1:57 DEN 20 4 plays 3yds Fumble
1:41 DEN 12 4 plays 17yds Punt
2nd Quarter
1:56 DEN 24 4 plays 6 yds Punt
4:25 DEN 19 10 plays 36 yds Punt
I love 10 play 36 yard drives.
We knew we were due for a flat performance, didn’t think our OL would get used to that extent. B Hamilton looked terrible.
I have a better word for you than "soft" or "finesse"
How about:
Precise.
Ever have a precision handgun or rifle? They can’t take a lot of beating, or they get off target easily. They still get pretty darn close, but the point of having such a precise weapon is to do very precise things. Denver’s gameplans are always focused on very specific trends and weaknesses of the opponent, so that requires an offensive weapon with the precision to target those areas while avoiding the strengths that surround them. Like the precision rifle, you have to handle that offense carefully, or it will get out of alignment, but you can still do damage with it, even if it is off a little. This is because the weapon is still made out of tough materials, they are just in a sensitive,a nd easy to adjust alignment with eachother.
I like that. Contrast to a true “finesse” offense that has truly “soft” components. Unlike the tough parts of precison offense, the parts of a finnesse offense are smaller, lighter, quicker. They don’t get out of alignment when they get knocked around, they get damaged. And unlike precise offense which can still operate when out of alignment, damaged finesse offenses are unable to work at all.
The days of finesse are gone, for now, here in Denver. But that doesn’t mean we have an offense that can’t be frustrated when it is going for head shots and all it can come up with are shots that go too high or to low…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 2, 2009 4:27 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Great observation Jeremy
We weren’t soft as much as imprecise. McD approached the game with the goal of giving the receivers open space to make plays, hence all the screen passes. But for those screens to work effectively, the timing has to be sharp; it’s a clockwork play where all the parts have to be in the right position at the right time working in harmony. The linemen need to get to their blocks quickly, the receiver has to cut to open space, and then the QB has to deliver the ball smoothly. Without that precision and timing the play often goes for naught. It’s about rhythm. Really, more than any Bronco team I’ve seen, this team needs to have rhythm. The Ravens knocked us out of that rhythm and we could never recover.
I wonder though, how much the bye week actually did affect us. I know McD claimed in the interview that it didn’t, but I suspect otherwise. The offense looked really similar to how they performed in the Cincinnati game—off kilter, as if they were feeling each other out the whole game. I feel like having two weeks apart from the speed and pace of real time football game affected the Broncos more than they would want to admit.
Good work Tim. You mentioned up in the thread that you’re reading a lot of text books. What are you studying? And good luck with all that.
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Besides, IT means I get to spend all my time on the computer………………………. ;-)
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Awesome Tim
I wish you the best with all that. As long as you keep up with your studies ar MHR U as well :).
Look at me...first thing I do when I get home from school. lmao
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Good point!
I love the gun reference too…of course you knew I would. :P
I hope that eventually we will have both a precise offense and a physical one. That’s one thing our Super Bowl offense had…the ability to play whatever type of game was necessary to achieve victory.
I have not quite seen that from this offense…I suppose I could give McD a year or two before I start demanding a Super Bowl caliber offense. lol
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My word would be uninspired!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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Yesterday’s game proved to me that Denver would be foolish to talk contract with Orton until the end of 2009. He has been decent two games (Cleveland, Oak), very good to excellent three others and subpar (but not awful) in two (Cincy and Balt). The Ravens showed everyone how to defense against Kyle (pressure and press defend the short passes) but I don’t think most teams can bring the fire like the Ravens can.
My worry is can Kyle ever win a game vs a D like Baltimore’s in the playoffs? Seeing how he bounces back with home games vs Pitt and the NYG will help us understand what we have in Orton. I’m not saying he can’t win a playoff type game vs a great D or a D playing great, but I’d like to see him play better, smarter and more effective than he did yesterday vs a Top 10 D (which you often face in the playoffs). I think Denver has a playoff team, do we have a playoff QB?
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McG...I like your new tagline, lol
I also like that you continue to raise these questions, although I do think Orton is the answer—mostly because I have a preseason post saying as much:-)
I’m breaking down the tape now as I write this. I can tell you on every play that we got creamed, there was bad communication on the line….Including Clady…I can’t actually believe what I am watching.
Moreover…I am just whispering this now….don’t let it get out….but I wasn’t seeing any separation on the routes yesterday. And when they tried to work the middle, the middle was getting blown (i prefer blowed) up.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
lol of course you would but again you are coming up short
Its ridiculous to say the Ravens defended Orton as if Orton is our entire offense.
The ravens didnt do anything that we had not seen before they just did it better than the other teams and we didnt execute nearly as well as we did against those other teams .
We were not doing anything special the first 7 weeks of the season except for minimizing our mistakes and making plays when they were needed and the Ravens did what we normally do only better than us on that day .
Why do you say help us understand ? Its only you and a select few who slammed Orton from the start that needs help understanding as most fans who understand Mcdaniels philosophy already know whats going on.
Whats really disturbing about all this is how some of you can watch the game know and talk about how good our defense is . know and discuss how much pressure our defense brings and then not pay attention to how the Ravens beat our pressure.
The Ravens went no huddle they didnt chuck it deep .They took all creativity out of it and put us in our base and proceeded to use our base .
I saw the Bears vs ATL on a couple of weeks ago and the Falcons did the exact same thing to a blitz happy over aggressive defense.
I agree...
The defense did what they could yesterday but the fact remains they got beat. And while it is a vast improvement over last year there are still issues. Especially now after Baltimore gave the rest of the league a blueprint on how to keep the D on it’s heels. No huddle with some hurry up keeps our D off balance and like you said limits creativity. That gets maginified when your offense can’t sustain a drive. While we were holding them to field goals in the first half those field goals turned to touchdowns as the Ravens execution improved. Many questions this week will be answered next week.
I thought he played great against NE and SD too...
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As always, this is meaty.
Gonna put the punting argument to bed I hope later in the week when I do some correlations between winning percentage and punting stats.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Just mark down the actual starting position for the Ravens after each punt....
for posterity’s sake. :)
Muchos gracias amigo
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Another good read Zappa
Well, we all knew a loss was coming and I think this loss to the Ravens will help us against the Steelers. What we didn’t do in that game can help us against the Steelers. One of the things that worries me is Ben’s ability to extend plays and make something happen. Their offense didn’t do much against the Vikings and with an extra week to change things up, they will be ready and we need to be as well. The loss was an eye-opener that I hope we learn from.
I want a aggressive and fast start for once.
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So, we gave up 3 points on a turnover by Moreno,
then we gave up 3 points on a drive! Then our Special Teams gave up 7 points on the opening kickoff. That’s 3 points up until a couple of minutes left in the 3rd Qtr. Hmmm…concerns? Concerns? Get straight people, this isn’t about defense, it’s about the offense doing their job! They are the one’s who need to get it together. Oh, I know, everybody is worried about the defense. Sorry, can’t persaude me any other way. Offense….sad…
Our defense held them in check for quite some time
Hopefully our O-line will give Orton some time so our offense can get in a rhythm. I am glad the crowd will be in our corner. Le’ts get back to Bronco football.
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Ummm...I said the D played great in my post...
30 pts is a concern for the TEAM. :)
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