Horse Tracks 11/20/09 - Orton, Buckhalter, Jordan miss practice; Marshall, Barrett (limited) return
by Douglas A. Lee on Nov 20, 2009 6:03 AM MST
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NFL Films - Week 11: Chargers vs. Broncos Preview - Video
DB - Week 11 - Thu: McDaniels - Broncos TV
DB - Taking Notice - Zach Eisendrath
"There were four changes to the Broncos’ Injury Report on Thursday. After neither player participated in Wednesday’s practice session, Josh Barrett (hamstring) was a limited participant on Thursday and Brandon Marshall (neck) was listed as a full participant. Correll Buckhalter (knee) and Brandon Lloyd (foot) were both limited participants on Wednesday, however, neither took part in Thursday’s practice session."
DPP - Broncos' Kyle Orton misses practice again - Jeff Legwold
"The injury has been described as a torn ligament by some, but it is a case of semantics, given that any sprain is, by definition, a tearing of soft tissue."
DPP - New team brings unrivaled disdain in Broncoland - The Denver Post
"Broncos fan website Mile High Report conducted a similar survey Thursday, and found a similar response. With more than 1,200 online votes recorded by late Thursday afternoon, 62 percent picked the Chargers, compared to about 20 percent for the Raiders and 17 percent for the Chiefs."
"What I've seen in the comments on the poll, it is almost divided by age group," said John Bena, a longtime Broncos fan who founded Mile High Report three years ago. "The really old-school fans, they picked Kansas City, because that's the oldest rival. Then the older fans that grew up in the '70s-'80s-'90s, it's the Raiders. But for newer fans, from the Super Bowl years on, it's been the Chargers, because the Chargers have been relevant in that time."
NFLN - Brandon Marshall interview - Video
Wow. Check out the (not very good) painting in the background of BMarsh and JC.
NFL - With Bolts on deck, Broncos bumbling, but will they bust? - Vic Carucci
"The biggest problem with the Broncos' defense in recent games, according to Andra Davis, is that it has gotten away from the highly disciplined approach it showed through the first six weeks. Too many players have become interested in being recognized for individually making plays rather than sticking to their responsibilities within the scheme."
NYT - Ouster of N.F.L.’s Voice on Concussions, Dr. Ira Casson, Is Sought - Alan Schwarz
"The NFLPA is calling for the removal of Dr. Ira Casson as co-chairman of the league’s committee on concussions, saying that he is too biased to lead the research and policy group...Casson has dismissed every outside study finding links to dementia and other cognitive decline, including three papers published by the University of North Carolina’s Center for the Study of Retired Athletes." It is ridiculous for a doctor being paid by and representing the NFL to be performing exams on players for an NFL concussion study.
NYT - Weighing the Toll of Contact in Practice - Judy Battista
I've got to wonder - is all the practicing in pads this summer starting to tire out the Broncos defense? I know the company line this week has been that the unit's players have been going too often for the "big play" or "individual glory" but doesn't that strike you as a little hard to believe? I don't see a lot of egos on the Broncos' D, and with BDawk leading the way I can't see guys losing their discipline. Obviously, this is only speculation and it could never be more than that, but what do you think?
DB - Soy-Based Success - Gray Caldwell
Who would ever have guessed? Kenny Peterson is a pescatarian (vegetarian who eats fish). He made the switch a year ago due to his blood type.
DB - Providing Perspective - Broncos TV
The Broncos talk about this week as a chance to rebuild a division lead.
DP - Dawkins tabbed for player forum - Jeff Legwold
Leaders lead...
DPP - Broncos linebacker Davis thankful he's out of Cleveland - Jeff Legwold
DPP - Spotlight: Broncos rookie safety David Bruton - Lindsay Jones
DPP - Analysis: Jackson's improvement great for Gates, Chargers - Jeff Legwold
DPP - Q&A: Will the Shanahan staff reassemble somewhere? - Jeff Legwold
"Running backs coach Bobby Turner, offensive line coach Rick Dennison, special-teams assistant Keith Burns and strength and conditioning coach Rich Tuten were retained by Josh McDaniels, but the remainder of the Shanahan assistants were let go. All have worked with Shanahan for a long time and all could be possibilities to go to Shanahan's new team at some point, if for some reason they wanted to leave Denver or contract situations could be worked out."
LTC - Ayers still adjusting - Brian Howell
LTC - Broncos QB Orton improving - Brian Howell
Note: this was written before Orton missed yesterday's practice.
CSG - Simms ready, if needed - Frank Schwab
CSG - Broncos thin at running back - Frank Schwab
"Knowshon Moreno and Peyton Hillis were the only tailbacks from the 53-man roster healthy enough to practice Thursday because Correll Buckhalter (knee) and LaMont Jordan (back) missed practice."
CSG - Orton missed second straight practice - Frank Schwab
AP - Chris Simms gearing up for 1st start since '06 injury - Arnie Stapleton
ESPN Insider - Chargers-Broncos: 10 observations - Doug Kretz
San Diego 21 Denver 20
PFW - Return of defensive players should improve Giants - Eric Edholm
Chargers News
SDUT - Chargers see wildcat as more than gimmick - Chris Jenkins
SDUT - Depth at linebacker paying off
SDUT - Binn belongs in - Mike Fleiss
SDUT - Clary doesn't work - Kevin Acee
"Everyone else (except center Nick Hardwick, who is not going to play again Sunday) worked today. "
PFW - Injuries allow Chargers ILB Siler to carve out role - Michael Blunda
NCT - Cromartie believes he has improved - Scott Bair
NCT - Defense prepares for system, not the quarterback - Scott Bair
NCT - Trouble at right tackle; injury update - Scott Bair
NFL Results
NFL - Miami Dolphins 24 at Carolina Panthers 17
SN - Williams' running helps Henne have a pro day - Vinnie Iyer
AFC West News
NFP - Diner morning news: Russell move long overdue - Mike Lombardi
KCS - Long has his big chance with the Chiefs - Kent Babb
KCS - Chiefs notes | Steelers are what Haley hopes his team can be - Adam Teicher
SFC - Hard-working Gradkowski gives foes new look - David White
OT - Benching JaMarcus Russell a call for Raiders' quarterback to shape up - Monte Poole
NFL News
NFL - NFL names Dungy to lead newly formed Player Advisory Forum
NFL - Vikings reward Childress with contract extension through 2013
NFL - Bengals RB Benson likely out vs. Raiders
NFL - Redskins RB Portis ruled out vs. Cowboys because of concussion
NFL - Week 11 injuries: Saints’ Bush misses second practice
NFL - A change is gonna come: Owner Wilson ready to revamp Bills
NFL - Torn ACL ends season for up-and-coming Rams DE Ah You
NFP - Brohm’s arrival signals change for Buffalo - Matt Bowen
The Bills snatched another recent draft choice off the Packers' practice squad; this time it's 2008 second-rounder QB Brian Brohm. Before that, it was '09 fifth-rounder OT Jamon Meredith.
FH - Bears Shun NBC for Sunday Night Game - Matt Snyder
NFL Opinion
SI - Mike Shanahan, Leslie Frazier among NFL coaching candidates - Don Banks
"The smart money continues to be on Washington and Danny "Warbucks'' Snyder (we could call it the Danny and Shanny show)."
Y! - Eagles, Packers' futures brighter than Giants' - Charles Robinson
SN - For three struggling QBs, it's November nosedive - Clifton Brown
Y! - Gruden finds safe haven in the booth - Mike Silver
FH - Thursday-and-Long: It's Rex Ryan's Party, He Can Cry If He Wants To - Dan Graziano
FOX - It's a QB's world in today's NFL - Alex Marvez
CBS - Hungry Jones-Drew rushing to elite stature - Pete Prisco
NFL - Bengals have easy out if they lose their gamble with LJ - Steve Wyche
SI - Larry Johnson will try to resurrect career with Bengals - Paul Daugherty
FOX - NFL Truths: LeBron needs to focus on NBA - Jason Whitlock
ESPN - Percy Harvin is making Vikings QB Brett Favre look good - Elizabeth Merrill
FOX - Boom or Bust: Who's to blame for Bills' struggles? - Adam Schein
SI - Wildcat revolution fails to materialize in NFL in 2009 - Andrew Perloff
PFW - Mays' freakish talent being preserved - Nolan Nawrocki
Picks, Etc.
NFP - The Player's Picks: Week 11 - Matt Bowen
"I see a great AFC West game with Nate Kaeding winning it on a long field goal in the fourth quarter as the Chargers take over the West."
NYT - Week 11 N.F.L. Matchups - Mike Tanier
"After 20 years, the dossier on Norv Turner is complete...As a disciplinarian and motivator, he ranks somewhere between Dick Jauron and a substitute gym teacher...We’ll learn over the next few weeks whether McDaniels will correct those mistakes, get overwhelmed by them or adopt Turner’s philosophy: ignore them and hope his veterans bail him out."
NFL - McNabb-Cutler duel leads solid list of Week 11 matchups
ESPN - Sunday Countdown online: Your weekly NFL guide - Week 11
SI - The Peter King Challenge
"Prediction: San Diego Chargers 30, Denver Broncos 14"
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An encouraging and thoughtful commentry from Andra Davis
I got sick and tired of reading the same old blah last year from the defence after each loss. You remember the usual guff – “we need to get better, we need to look at film, practice harder etc etc”. And it was all meaningless waffle as each week the defence continued to look like a shambles.
So I’m pleased to hear something more concrete from Davis – he’s actually calling out his colleagues for playing to their egos, even if he is not naming them in public. I am therefore more encouraged that this week we are going to see a return to form for the defence. Plus Mcbean is back!
That said any thoughts from anyone as to who specifically Davis might have been referring to?
by British Bronco on Nov 20, 2009 7:03 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
DJ has been out of spots, Ayers hasn’t held the edge a few times on runs that I have seen..
A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.
by Todd Jewell on Nov 20, 2009 7:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ayers I can forgive due to his rookie learning curve....
..but I’m starting to see more and more negative feedback on DJ here. The thing is I have never seen him as a “me first” sort of player.
by British Bronco on Nov 20, 2009 7:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it may not be a me first thing then,
but a “i dont trust that guy to his job, so ill do i for him” kinda thing
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by denver_diaspora on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
he is in on every play, unless he gets dinged up, so he in particular is susceptible to wearing down. I think he learned a lot of bad defense in his last three or four years, and those aren’t fully out of his system. He loses trust in his teammates quickly, and I don’t believe it is a conscious decision on his part.
My biggest fear for Dj, for years, was that we were ruining him and his shot at a probowl career. I no longer have that fear thanks to Nolan and McD, and I feel that DJs career is finally back in his own hands, fo rbetter or worse. I hope his play reaches its elite potential, hoepfully by the end of this year, but if not then, eventually.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 20, 2009 4:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
agree with this
being on all those weak defenses of years yonder cannot be good for a guy’s habits. It’s still a bit shocking to know that he hasn’t been to a single pro-bowl yet, although he’s easily pro-bowl caliber talent wise.
by RockyMountainHigh on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Alfred Williams
was talking about this much earlier in the week. He didn’t name names, but he did single out the guys up front.
by JeffG on Nov 20, 2009 7:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
6-5
Is becoming a distinct possibility. On the way to 9-7 / 8-8.
Too bad. With a healthy Orton, I think we go 12-4 / 11-5.
This isn’t a knock on Simms. It’s that Orton now knows the offense, and I’m not sure Simms can get it done with so few reps, and with a rather long windup.
by JeffG on Nov 20, 2009 7:33 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Denver Post Readers
You’ll never need to go back there now …
by hallandnash on Nov 20, 2009 7:34 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
lol
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 20, 2009 7:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Doug
I’m finding it surprisingly easy to tune out the fickle critics like King (really, after thumping the Chargers on the road, the Broncos are now going to get pasted by same at home?). I’m nervous as heck about Orton, but cannot in my lifetime recall a 6-3 team on which people so quickly turned their backs. I guess I’ll chalk it up to the first month of the season elevating our expectations, and massively.
Kenny Peterson has never had a drink or cigarette, and he doesn’t eat meat. Here’s hoping he swears like a sailor.
by Chibronx on Nov 20, 2009 8:08 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah King's
prediction shouldn’t bother me but it does. Of course it could come true and then he’s nailed it. But I would expect the Broncos to play with a lot of heart on SUnday and prove their first win over SD wasn’t a fluke. If they don’t have Orton that’ll hurt but it’s the D that needs to step it up and prove King wrong.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
by underdog on Nov 20, 2009 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: the poll above
I would have to say the defense’s problem is the lack of offense. The defense has been on the field way too much the last three games, and thus has gotten worn down towards the end of the game.
by FtCoNative on Nov 20, 2009 8:17 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Thats actually a very poor excuse If you look a little closer
Over the past 3 games the defense has not been on the field a whole lot in the first half as we have been even or slighty ahead TOP at half time of the last 3 games . What has happened is that at halftime teams have adjusted and our defense has not been able to get off the field and outside of the fumble recovery for a td have not generated any turnovers either . Why is our defense wearing down in the 3rd quarter but the opponents are not if we are pretty even in TOP at the half . Its because they are given up multiple 9 + play drives over the past 3 weeks in the second half and a good defense just cannot be on the field for that many plays against a big physical offense capable of running the ball .
To get back our swagger we got get back to winning 1st down and finishing 3rd downs .
by Hoopforia on Nov 20, 2009 9:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
one example that i wanna add is
Against the Steelers to open up the 3rd they started on their own 17 and had a 6 play 37 yard drive going when they fumbled in OUR territory and we scored on the return . The defense then came right back with that momentum at home and allowed a 4 play 80 yard drive to take back the lead .This is with our defense having only been on the field for 18 plays in the first half .
by Hoopforia on Nov 20, 2009 10:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem of late for our defense has been giving up 3rd down conversions.
They know what they have to do to get better, we only speculate as to the problems not being able to see the whole picture. Andra Davis may have hit on something that I wouldn’t have thought possible with the leadership of Davis and Dawkins in the locker room. If we in fact do have self first players then that is a real concern that needs to be addressed immediately. Cut the cancer out before it spreads.
by bfree2bronc on Nov 20, 2009 12:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug...
"A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do" Walter Gagenot
"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."
by bchiper on Nov 20, 2009 8:32 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Doug
“The Blind Side” (Michael Oher movie) comes out today.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Nov 20, 2009 9:12 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
The Dolts our biggest rival. No freaking way.
The Chefs are Denver’s biggest rival, following very closely by the Raiders.
San Diego has been an NFL nobody for most of its history and even in their boom years 2004-2008, they have been to 0.0 Super Bowls, winning zero. As their talent base continues to age, San Diego will soon return to their 5-11 roots.
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by McGeorge on Nov 20, 2009 9:29 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Chargers
As long as Rivers is the face of that organization they’ll be my most hated rival.
by NDbronco on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The Dolts have been of zero consequence to the Broncos (and their fans) pre-Rivers. They just never mattered; they weren’t relevant. Heck, the one year they went to the Super Bowl (we missed the playoffs) I found myself somewhat HAPPY FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!! I think I even rooted for them in the Super Bowl (not that I would do that now).
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by Douglas A. Lee on Nov 20, 2009 9:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Let the Chiefs and Raiders regain their winning ways and we can talk.
by JeffG on Nov 20, 2009 10:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rivals are timeless. The Dolts are just a flavor of the week.
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by McGeorge on Nov 20, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep me too
H A T E that Pip guy
by AllBroncsallday on Nov 20, 2009 12:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree wholeheartedly with the second half of your comment McG, but I’ve gotta go with the Raiders. Granted, the fact that Elway and Shanny both had some sort of hex over Marty had much to do with it, as did Shanny’s hatred for The Crypt Keeper, but I think it’s gotta be the Raiders!!
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by Douglas A. Lee on Nov 20, 2009 9:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Raiders are the biggest
Hate the raiders and always will, voted the Chargers just because the are competitive right now. Hard to care about KC or OAK when they win 3 games a year
Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009
by diviesti on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted chargers based on logic
but then last night my wife asked to watch America’s Game DVD of our first SB win (bless her soul) and I found myself swearing mightily at the point where the faders handed us our first loss of the year that year.
The heart speaks the truth. Raiders are to the Broncos as Evil is to Good. The Chargers are to the Broncos as naughty is to good.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 20, 2009 4:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY
Is that the game when Napoleon Kaufman went off?
If my wife asked to watch that DVD, I think her family (Packers fans) would disown her…
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by Douglas A. Lee on Nov 20, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
rats
I had forgotten his name. I had forgotten everything about him.
Damn napoleon.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 20, 2009 5:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It may not be the Chargers as a team so much...
but Phillip Rivers has become an individual most Bronco fans would like to see receive a good beat down.
ND sorta beat me to it.
by jayrockstone on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
As John explained in his quote, I think it’s all a question of age. I can certainly understand how a young Broncos fan would consider the Dolts to be Enemy #1.
But the Dolts of my childhood (the 80s and early 90s) were generally a laughingstock, especially with the whole Ryan Leaf episode. Granted, I realize many younger fans could say the same of the Raiders and Chefs now…
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by Douglas A. Lee on Nov 20, 2009 9:53 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that formula applies in all cases
Doesn’t apply in mine even though we have a similar background.
Right now, the dolts are the most hated for me. Sure, it used to be the faiders, but, it’s hard to maintain that level when they’ve been as bad as they are for as long as they have been. Same goes for the Chefs, although I have more respect for that team than I do for the CA jokes.
It switches depending on the relevancy of the team in question.
by AllBroncsallday on Nov 20, 2009 12:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree
I dislike all three teams, but right now San Diego is the main rival too me, and I have been a Broncos fan since I was a kid in the 70’s.
by Quietone on Nov 20, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ditto
And the more I think about this the more I think it depends on your definition of “rival”. Let me simplify this.
If you’re talking about the team we most love to hate, that we have the strongest tradition of hating, the one that has been most relevant through the decades and consistently challenging us, it’s the Raiders hands down.
If you’re talking about the latest biggest pain in the @$$, it’s the Bolts.
And one more thing about the Raiders. Even with the last several years of mediocrity, we have split series with them, so even now they’re not entirely irrelevant.
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Nov 21, 2009 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
Funny how that works, isn’t it? Even though we’ve been splitting with them in the last few years, I still don’t see them as relevant or a threat.
by AllBroncsallday on Nov 22, 2009 9:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I vote all of the above and then some
I think all of those are contributing factors to the defense.
Our offense has also contributed. To state the obvious, if the offense was on the field more the defense would be on the field less.
by trumanj on Nov 20, 2009 9:54 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I voted ‘losing discipline’. It’s likely it’s not so simplistic and it’s a combination of all those choices, but ultimately I think it’s their discipline.
And I hate to sound like a doom and gloomer, but if Orton can’t go this week (and it doesn’t look likely) there’s no way Denver wins with Simms at the helm. The ONLY way they can win, IMO, is if 1) Simms limits his mistakes, 2) they pound the ball successfully, non-stop all game and 3) the defense steps up like they did the first 6 games. They at least have to stop the run. I think it’s too much to ask to completely shut down Phyllis and the passing game.
by Gristle McThornbody on Nov 20, 2009 10:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'll add that Knowshon has to obviously have a huge day. He needs to be a difference maker and break out.
And a return (or two) from Royal for a TD once again wouldn’t hurt, either. :)
by Gristle McThornbody on Nov 20, 2009 10:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Doug
I’ve been quietly concerned as well that this heavy conditioning would wear us down a little more, rather than less, over the course of the season, and I’m glad you mentioned it in your comments. Makes me wonder if we have some odd dynamic between conditioning and altitude that other teams just don’t have to deal with, so that some of the generally accepted conditioning practices that work like gangbusters elsewhere don’t work as well in Denver.
Anyone else have any thoughts on that? Jury’s still out for me, which is why I voted rough stretch. I’m definitely not ready to cash in this season just yet, though. I love KO and hope he plays, but I think a lot of what we saw from Simms last week was due to the fact he wasn’t getting reps. If he starts Sunday, I’ll still be confident in him.
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Nov 20, 2009 10:36 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
That’s the right question to ask. One hypothesis might be that the added strain of altitude effectively adds to the pre-season conditioning load, making a workload that’s optimal elsewhere, excessive in Denver.
I also wonder whether the heavier conditioning load might have a bigger impact on older players and/or players who sprint a lot. That would certainly explain some of the fall-off in the play of the DBs.
by Chibronx on Nov 20, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting hypothesis, but
as a former marathoner whose first marathon was in Denver and who trained at altitude both with distance and sprint type workouts (fartlek, weird word) both there and in Colorado and Idaho, I didn’t feel it in my own training. That was about 10 month out of the year when in training, over a 23 year period and 20+ marathons. It always felt as if the altitude training was necessary to compete at altitude, and nothing but advantage if I got to compete at sea level.
by idahobronc on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lol love that word fartlek
Heard Greenie give Golic a lot of grief for using that awhile ago on Mike & Mike In The Morning on ESPN Radio — only to find out it’s a real term! So hilarious!
Interesting insights, Idaho bro. Thanks for sharing those. Always love to hear from people with first hand experiences who can weigh in on some of these things. I’m still worried, but that perspective helps. Thanks!
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Nov 21, 2009 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to Doug for Horse Tracks
This is my most frequented part of MHR. The summaries with the links are helpful because I don’t have time to read everything.
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Nov 20, 2009 11:03 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Two updates via twitter
denverbroncos: Buckhalter will practice today.
@fs3142: Orton won’t practice today. Could he play? McD: “Absolutely.” Will be questionable.
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by underdog on Nov 20, 2009 11:03 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
They don't have to make a decision on Orton until 90 minutes prior to the game.
McDaniels said that they will work out Orton Sunday morning and see if he can go. I love the smoke and mirrors McD brings to the msm. Feed them crap and keep them in the dark…just like a mushroom…umm.
by bfree2bronc on Nov 20, 2009 12:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Shefter picks Broncos
He’s about the only MSM head that I can find.
Of course he’s also picking the Raiders over the Bengals…
"I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" -- Wimpy J. Wellington
by Broncs Cheer on Nov 20, 2009 11:12 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
lol
Gotta love Adam. He has such a finger on the pulse and isn’t afraid to say what he really thinks and ignore conventional wisdom in favor of his hard won acquired knowledge. I’m sure he’s elated to have joined the “big time” ranks of ESPN, but I think the network was extremely lucky to add him to their team.
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by broncosmontana on Nov 21, 2009 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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