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For some reason the NFL has managed to make us all feel like idiots if we dare to complain about some HORRIBLE calls at critical times that have a HUGE impact on games.  I Don't get it, how can they review a play and still get it wrong or just miss some stuff that is so obvious. 

Question 1 why is it ok to lock into Dumervils facemask/head/pads to force him wide outside on SOOO many plays?

Against SD the fumble in the end zone that cost a critical first half momentum TD.  The slightly juggled pick that was not even reviewed at the end of the first half, not sure you could overturn but holy cow please look!  The 3 point drive where Orton was tackled at the shins.   If that was Brady what do you think would have happened!  Lots more like the ignored or missed 3rd down face mask but these seemed critical timing wise and fairly obvious.

So, I haven't made notes on all of the other plays including the 4th down conversion that based on the play and the visible forward progress alone was made around midfield,  spot reviewed and still stolen from us at a critcal time, the obvious running into the kicker on 4th and 4 etc.  And I'm sure you guys can add to the list that age prevents me from compiling well.

I'm not saying a great team should not be able to over come horrible calls at critical times, I'm saying we are a good team that needs some balls to bounce our way every now and then.  If we have to overcome obvious horrid calls at critical times we will not beat other good and great teams.

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How much has the bad reffing affected the outcome of our last few games.
None at all. The refs do a great job and your orange shades make you see stuff that isn't there
3 votes
Very little: Every game has tough calls in it just like lucky breaks, Winners will find a way to win.
38 votes
Quite A bit: If the questionable calls had gone Denver's way we could easily be 8-2 or at worst 7-3 right now.
22 votes
A ton: Bad calls have cost the Broncos 1-4 games this year. We should be 8- 2 or better with any decent breaks from the refs
0 votes
100%: For some reason the refs seem to have it out for the Broncos right now, not sure why but we could be 9-1 or undefeated if not for the Zebra Opposition
0 votes
None of the above: The refs are a consistent non-factor
1 votes

64 votes | Poll has closed

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While I would agree that Moreno’s fumble should have been overturned. I do see how the call on the feild was a fumble – that was my first thought as well. The replay did give evidence that the ball was hit after it broke the plane – but even as a hard core fan I cannot say that the evidence was difinative. The replay ref could see enough to reverse the call, but the standard is clear and convincing – it was his determination that some doubt remained which means the call of the feild should control.

by Flunkie on Nov 23, 2009 11:24 AM MST reply actions  

That wasn't his determination

He said that the call was “confirmed”. He lied.

"I intend to kick your ass today." - Denver Broncos legend Tom Jackson

by wtnelson on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t listen to the ‘confirmed’ ….. totally pointless. The point is that a replay ref should look at any replay with the idea that the call on the feild is the right call until and unless he sees something that clearly demonstrates to the contrary. If the call is not overturned it is confirmed – that simple. Hate shades of grey – they only add to confusion and controversy.

by Flunkie on Nov 23, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Here's what bothers me

NFL refs have taken something from the college system and say that the replay “confirmed” the call on the field. Obviously, it does at times, but that’s bogus, particularly in the case of the Moreno fumble. The replay didn’t confirm anything.

Something about saying that just bothers me. It’s like they’re admitting that they needed assurance. I’d rather have them say that the call on the field stands and know that there just wasn’t sufficient evidence to overturn it than to hear that it is “confirmed” when it clearly wasn’t. It just really bothers me.

"I intend to kick your ass today." - Denver Broncos legend Tom Jackson

by wtnelson on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 AM MST reply actions  

The officiating has been one sided against Denver the last few weeks.

That said, I’d be a hell of a lot more angry if I felt officiating cost us any of those games. It didn’t. We ultimately lost because we were smoked by a better team or allowed a 4th and 20 fake FG for TD.

Denver lost all four games more so than the refs.

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by McGeorge on Nov 23, 2009 11:25 AM MST reply actions   2 recs

Yep

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Nov 23, 2009 6:57 PM MST up reply actions  

A lot to be upset about, but..

the refs are pretty far down that list. None of those calls would have made up 29 points (or more, SD took it easy the second half, they could have been MUCH more aggressive). Maybe Mcdaniels should keep his mouth shut and act like he’s coached a game before. For a self-professed Belichick disciple, it was pretty dumb to engage the enemy right before battle. I doubt you would ever see Bill do that.

by Cutler's Ghost on Nov 23, 2009 11:58 AM MST reply actions  

Our sloppy play has lost the games, not the refs.

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by Todd Jewell on Nov 23, 2009 12:05 PM MST reply actions  

I guess my shades are orange

Somehow the “bad calls” seem to be happening at a point as Denver is ready to make a strong momentum shift, IE the fumble (only 2 camera views in a game hyped as a “division playoff”???) and the OBVIOUS low hit on the QB.
That said we better get back to bringing some creative heat from the front 7 both run and pass blitzing Thursday and do whatever it takes to hold off the NYG defensive line penetrating our backfield. The guys up front should be p’d off for being beaten and humiliated much more so than Marshall, Moreno, McD, or even Mike Nolan.

by HippoJohn on Nov 23, 2009 12:16 PM MST reply actions  

Mine too ...

But to be honest, I bet guys with Blue shades could have found a few that should have been called against us. They don’t care and don’t remember because their team won. We have had bad calls against us and overcame them in the past. We have overcome red zone turn overs in the past. The Broncos are now in a situation where they are not playing well enough to overcome the set backs – as such every bad call seems to be far more important and costly. If we had scored on the play where Orton got hit low, how long do you think you would have remembered the non call?

by Flunkie on Nov 23, 2009 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Glad to see the wisdom of crowds in this poll.

You just can’t blame the referees. Each game is like a binomial tree, with each outcome altering the course of events irrevocably. You can’t argue that a bad call resulted in a loss when that call was a product of the plays before it. I.E. if the team sets up a third and short, they can run the ball, rather than being forced on third and long to throw the ball thereby exposing their quarterback to “possible” roughing the passer calls. Execution will always mitigate refereeing.

by legendarywalton on Nov 23, 2009 12:36 PM MST reply actions  

Funny binomial tree

Same concept would support a few critical actions, IE taking a TD or 2 away early on, would suggest that bad calls will normally mitigate a teams ability to win. Neither execution nor bad calls could EVER not impact the outcome of a game. :)

by HippoJohn on Nov 23, 2009 12:51 PM MST reply actions  

I may be getting out of my element, but...

Wouldn’t an even early in the tree have less of an impact because so many derivations can occur? it would almost seem like an even at the end of a tree (i.e. the end of the program, the end of a game) would have a larger impact because there are no more outcomes to consider.

by legendarywalton on Nov 23, 2009 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Jesus..

even = event. That really made that unreadable.

by legendarywalton on Nov 23, 2009 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

That's true

I like some of the “events” taking place in the locker room. Vonnie Holliday being one of them. I really like how he’s calling out his defensive team-mates and asking which one of them will go to war with him the next time.

Good. We need more of this to restart that fire and regain what we had in the beginning of the season. Should that happen, we might have a good month in December for a change.

"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche

by Horsepower on Nov 23, 2009 8:55 PM MST up reply actions  

There were some calls that pissed me off

Most notably Merriman going low on Orton well after the ball was gone. Someone should have taken out that mf’ers knees after that play. But the Broncos got their arses handed to them. Badly. 20 more blown calls in their favor wouldn’t have made a difference.

And with the 32nd pick in the 2009 NHL draft, the Red Wings select: Someone other than Ryan O'Reilly. LOL@Detoilet.

by Bob in Boulder on Nov 23, 2009 12:58 PM MST reply actions  

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