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The Dude Abides...The Stats That Don't Lie, Week 11

"All stats and no play makes Jack a dull boy." --Jack Torrance

Week 11 in the NFL was a classic horror movie.   There were some spine-chilling moments (Chiefs over the Steelers), terrifying screams (Ravens fans watching their red zone offense), and when the Raiders beat the Bengals, things got downright bloodcurdling.

For their part, the Denver Broncos treated their fans to a B-movie slasher flick, in which they played the victim.  By the time the 4th quarter rolled around their rush defense had been so hacked to pieces, they simply tried to survive until the sequel.

Welcome again to the Stats That Don't Lie, Week 11.  This is your weekly descent into statistical madness.  These are the stats that give you Cabin Fever.  They are the packaged little REDRUM of stats.  As always, they are Turnovers, Field Position, Time of Possession, and 3rd-down efficiency. 

This week, we're going to shake things up slightly.  While you'll get the same summary statistics that you get each week (for those that like light reading) for all the teams and all the games, I'm going to spend a significant amount of time in this piece looking at the first half of the Denver/San Diego game in order to demonstrate some important lessons about these four statistical categories.  Hopefully, this will help us understand not only the complexities of how these four statistical categories intertwine, but the actions/strategies behind these statistics.

Star-divide

 Let's first begin, however, at the 10,000-foot level.  There's no reason to sugarcoat the Broncos' misfortunes.  These turnover-margin numbers over the last four games are as one-sided as a Tom Cable/Randy Hanson cage match:

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Denver's turnover margin keeps getting worse each game.   And every game that they've lost, they've come out of the game with a negative turnover margin.  Statistically, teams that have a turnover margin of -3 (minus three) only win about 17% of the time.  However, more disturbing than this individual game (or its statistic) is the trend.  When Denver was winning they were not turning the ball over, to the point of being labelled a "dink and dunk" offense.  Now that they are losing, they are giving the ball up in droves.  So we can talk all day and night (and we will) about Simms, Orton, onside kicks, who owns whom, and whether pigs have wings.   The Broncos' season stops and starts in one place: turnover margin.

It might sound like a broken record, but if Denver does one thing against the Giants that will ensure a win, it is to simply hold on to the ball.   Easier said than done, of course.

Denver continues its ghastly fall in all four of the statistically categories, however - not just turnovers.  Here are where they rank against all 32 teams:

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Denver is 10th in Turnovers, 27th in Field Position, 22nd in Time of Possession, and 21st in 3rd downs.   I'm not saying this is becoming a ghost ship just yet, but things are getting rather ghoulish.  Denver is beginning to drift into the territory of the Rams, Lions, and (GASP!) Raiders with these grisly rankings.  

Notice the San Diego Chargers and where they rank.  After Denver backhanded the Bolts in Week 6, the Chargers ranked 6th in Turnovers, 25th in Field Position, 30th in Time of Possession, and 17th in 3rd downs.  Now they are 2nd in Turnovers, 9th in Field Position, 21st in Time of Possession, and 13th in Third Downs.  All of this has come on the heels of a commitment to the running game--something Denver has struggled with.

You can certainly draw your own conclusions about the other teams on the list, but if I'm picking a Super Bowl match-up today, you can go ahead and give me New England and Minnesota based upon these statistics. Perhaps I enjoy the prospect of Jared Allen talking about mullets next to Tom Brady talking about Gisele.  Or perhaps I simply think the Colts' field position struggles will cost them at some point  and  that the Saints give the ball up too much on average.

Before moving on to the weekly rankings, I can't resist pointing out that the Bears rank second in field position. Imagine the kind of damage they could inflict on opponents if their QB didn't dispense interceptions like Pez candy.

 

Week-11 Summaries:

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2-Turnover Rule  (Explained Here)

  • 7 teams had 0 turnovers.  5 won (71%); For the season, 53/65 (82%)

  • 11 teams had 1 turnover.  4 won (36%); For the season, 44/87 (55%)

  • 5 teams had 2 turnovers.   3 won (60%); For the season, 43/94 (46%)

  • 6 teams had 3 turnovers.  4 won (67%); For the season, 12/45 (26%)

  • 2 team had 4 turnovers.  None won (0%); For the season, 4/21 (19%)

  • 1 teams had 5+ turnovers.  None won (0%); For the season, 0/8 (0%)

Week-11 Big Picture
  • The team that won the turnover battle won 8 of 16 games played (50%).  This is the lowest percentage for turnovers I've seen all year.

  • In the previous category, remove the ties (1 game) and this changes to 47%

  • The team that won the time of possession battle won 12 of the 16 games played (75%).  

  • The team that had better third-down efficiency won 11 of the 16 games played (69%).

  • The team that had better average starting field position won 9 of the 16 games played (56%). This is the lowest percentage for field position I've seen all year.

  • There were 5 games this week in which a team won all four categories.  In 4 of the 5, the same team won on the scoreboard (80%).  For the season, this stat is 52 out of 56 games.  In only 2 games, however, has a team won outright in all four categories (no ties in the turnover battle) and lost.

  • The winning teams this week averaged 1.38 turnovers, 32:14  in time of possession, 47.42% on 3rd downs, and their average starting field position was the 30.63 yard line.  

Top 5 in Week 11:
  • Top 5 in giveaways: 7 Teams tied with 0

  • Top 5 in time of possession: 1.Pittsburgh  2.Minnesota  3.Green Bay  4.New York Jets    5. Cincinnati

  • Top 5 in 3rd downs: 1.Minnesota   2.Jacksonville  3.Atlanta  4.Indianapolis  5.Green Bay   

  • Top 5 in avg. starting field position: 1.New Orleans  2.San Diego  3.Oakland   4.Kansas City   5.Chicago

Running Totals, Season (through 11 weeks):
  • 160 games have been played this season

  • 80% were won by the team with less turnovers (counting ties as wins)

  • 67.50% with a better time of possession

  • 66.25% by the team who won on 3rd down

  • 71.25% by the team that won the field-position battle.

11-week League Averages:
  • 11-week running average/game, turnovers (all teams): 1.68

  • 11-week running average/game, time of possession (all teams): 30:11 (thanks to numerous OT games)

  • 11-week running average/game, 3rd down efficiency (all teams): 37.91%

  • 11-week running average, starting field position (all teams) 29.81 yard line

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    The Denver/San Diego Game

    Even though there were several interesting games from last week, including one where the stats did lie (Detroit/Cleveland), this is the weekly look in-depth at the Denver/San Diego game.  So let's see what we can learn:

    Drive 1 - Denver

    Eddie Royal takes the ball from his end zone and returns it to the 26-yard line, so it's better than a touchback.  Denver proceeds to line up in a series of Single-Back, 3 WR sets, varying slot-left and slot-right.  They also use one shotgun formation to run for a 3rd-and-3 conversion..  They cram the ball off of the right tackle, getting huge chunks of yards until they are stopped at the San Diego 17-yard line.  In the 2nd-down play that follows, Simms doesn't step up into the pocket, is stripped of the ball, and Denver commits its first turnover of the day.  San Diego recovers at their own 31-yard line.

    What can we learn from this drive?  Denver chews up 4:25 of clock on this drive, only to have 3 to 7 points destroyed by a turnover.  So even though Denver is ahead in time of possession, they are behind in the turnover battle and in field position.  Here one can see that time of possession is much less important than the fact that Denver could not extend its drive and score.  Even worse, the momentum has clearly shifted in San Diego's favor.  Turnovers kill.  Time of possession means nothing without a score.

    Drive 1 - San Diego

    San Diego takes over on its own 31-yard line.  They use a series of their own single-back formations, I and Off-I formations to gash Denver in the running game off left end and up the middle.  Denver's middle linebackers are consistently getting caught in traffic and a stupid personal foul penalty allows San Diego to score an easy touchdown.

    San Diego holds onto the ball, chews up 4:37 of clock, achieves two 3rd-down conversions, and the score.  So now the Chargers are leading in all four statistical categories.   But the most important stat of this drive is San Diego's average yards/play:  7.1 yards.

    Drive 2 - Denver

    Royal takes a touchback, which is better than nothing.  This drive is a disaster, however, with two penalties, and Simms looking very rusty in the shotgun formation.  The drive ends in a sack and an unconverted 3rd-down opportunity.   Even worse, the ineptness of the offense forces a Denver punt from its goal line. 

    Drive 2 - San Diego

    San Diego takes over at its own 43-yard line after an excellent Mitch Berger punt.  However, San Diego is benefiting from excellent field position already in this game.  San Diego continues to show a variety of single-back, shotgun- , and offset-I formations.  A stupid penalty from Jarvis Moss helps give San Diego another easy 3rd-down conversion, and before one can say "LT," San Diego is deep into Denver territory.   Although they settle for a field goal, they've added to their lead and taken another 7:14 off the clock.  If we looked at the 4 statistical categories at this moment we would see:

    Turnovers: Den (1), SD (0)

    Field Position: Den (23), SD (37)

    Time of Possession: Den (7:15), San Diego (11:54)

    3rd-Down Efficiency: Den (1/2), San Diego (3/4)

    Drive 3 - Denver

    The ball flies through the end zone for another touchback, so Denver gets the ball on its 20-yard line once again.  Denver is victimized on this drive by a tipped pass, a penalty on Ryan Clady, and a safety blitz on third down.  So Denver goes three and out.  It's important to note that Denver is doing nothing whatsoever to help itself in the field position battle.

    Drive 3 - San Diego

    The Chargers start from their own 27-yard line.  They now use a lot of play action off of their offset-I formations to march down the field with level-two out routes. They also convert a big 3rd-and-one conversion in the process with a back shoulder fade to Vincent Jackson.  Denver only rushes 3 or 4 at a time, so it's easy pickings for Phil Rivers.  A couple of bad calls by the Chargers sets up a long 3rd-down conversion that the Chargers can't quite pick up.  The Chargers settle for another field goal while taking more time off the clock.  However, the key stat for the Chargers from this drive is passing yards/play: 10 yards.

    Let's face facts.  This game could be 21-0 at this point.

    Drive 4 - Denver

    Royal takes the kickoff return to the 38-yard line.  For once, Denver starts with good field position.  And the Chris Simms experience is also done, as Kyle Orton jogs onto the field.  Orton uses a series of max-protect shotgun and single-back formations to zip some deep balls on the left side of the field.  Denver is quickly to the Chargers 4-yard line.  On the next play (Single-back, slot-right formation), Moreno fumbles.   Despite the fact that Moreno had actually crossed the plane, the referee rules that the fumble stands.  San Diego takes over at the 20-yard line.

    Denver squanders another opportunity with a penalty.  Throw time of possession and 3rd downs out the window.  This drive was all about the turnover.   At this point in the football game, 2 turnovers have essentially cost the Broncos between 6 and 14 points.  

    Drive 4 - San Diego

    San Diego starts at their 20-yard line and it's their goal to now kill clock and take it into the half with runs out of the offset I-formation.  This is the first time San Diego has gone conservative all game.  And what does it get them?  Three and out.  The punt is also horrible, only traveling 28 yards.

    Drive 5 - Denver 

    Denver again gets the ball in good field position, at their 45-yard line.  This is a perfect opportunity to get some points before the half.  Denver comes out in the Shotgun.  Orton tries to go to a deep out to Royal, but is intercepted.

    Drive 5 - San Diego

    San Diego takes over at their own 42-yard line.  Turner again goes conservative, letting the clock hit halftime.

    At halftime, when the game was effectively over, here is where both teams stood in the four statistical categories:

    Turnovers: Den (3), San Diego (0)

    Field Position: Den (29.60), San Diego (32.40)

    Time of Possession: Den (10:43), San Diego (19:17)

    3rd-down efficiency: Den (1/3), San Diego (1/3)

    What does all of this teach us about how the four categories work together?  There are several points to consider:

    1) Turnovers depend on context and situation.  As has been said many times, a Hail Mary at the end of the half is not as important as a fumble in the red zone.  This game certainly illustrated that.  In this case, the three Denver turnovers cost them points.  They could have had (in my estimation) at worst 3 FGs, and at best 2 TDs and 1 FG.  This represents between 9 and 17 points.

    2) Field position is fluid.  The Football Outsiders are the ones who have coined this phrase, but it's certainly true.  In short, it means that your chances of scoring increase/decrease for each yard you move north or south.  In this case, the Broncos gave the Chargers good field position twice in the first half, once with a turnover and once with their three-and-out drive after a touchback.  And they paid for it.  The Chargers put up 10 points during these opportunities.  Short fields are not good, unless your team is getting them.

    3) Time of Possession doesn't equal run domination.  This is an important concept, and was touched upon last week in the comments to the Stats That Don't Lie by MHR members like warmick.  San Diego won the time of possession in the half through through a balanced attack (14 passes, 16 rushes).  Furthermore, San Diego only had four more rushing yards than Denver going into halftime.  So how did they do it?  They simply ran more plays and sustained their drives with scores, despite having the same number of drives as the Broncos.  They did it through a steady yards per play average.  In the 2nd half this became even more pronounced, as San Diego ran more often to kill the game clock.  Thus, the huge time-of-possession advantage that San Diego possessed at the end of the game was also a result of them being ahead at halftime.  

    4) 3rd down is important...if you need it.  Don't get me wrong.  3rd-down efficiency is a critical stat to measure because it means you are sustaining drives, and, hopefully, you are scoring at the end of these drives. However, if your offense sustains its drives on 1st and 2nd down, the 3rd-down-efficiency battle may not be as important.  In this game, on the Chargers' third drive of the afternoon, they got a lot of big plays on 1st and 2nd down, and, as such, only faced 2 third-down conversions.      


    The Look Ahead

    Looking ahead to New York, here is how the two teams stack up in the four statistical categories (keeping in mind these are averages/game):

    Team                    Turnovers/Game          Time of Possession          Field Position          3rd-Down Efficiency

    Denver                  1.40                                   28:56                                     27.51                         35.99%

    New York              1.60                                   34:06                                     31.68                         43.10%

    While these statistics would indicate a Giants victory, I'm not buying it.  There are several reasons I feel this way. First, there's a reason why the Giants are complaining about travelling on a short week to altitude.  That's because it will have an effect. Second, Eli Manning has a gunslinger streak in him that can be coaxed out with a few blitzes (something Denver did not do against San Diego).  So look for Denver to get a turnover or two.  And third, losing three home games in a row is a rarity for any Bronco team.  That's a horror movie no one wants to see. 

    Hail, Kyle Orton!!

    Last stat: 2.5% (percentage chance that Brandon Marshall and Knowshon Moreno are still upset with each other)

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    loved the breakdown,

    thanks LB. sobering, honest, worthy.

    "I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
    -K.O.

    by Jay Fin Anderson on Nov 25, 2009 10:01 AM MST reply actions  

    Don't worry Double D, I'm back on the sauce on Thursay!!! Thanks, mate.

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 10:10 AM MST up reply actions  

    I keep forgetting to ask — why do you use TO instead of TO differential?

    A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

    by Todd Jewell on Nov 25, 2009 10:03 AM MST reply actions  

    Todd, it's a mistake I keep making! Thanks for pointing it out. Sometimes the old brain and fingers don't work together, eh?

    I’ll make sure I fix this. I appreciate you telling me. Much respect.

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

    yeah I have always read this series of yours and I always though it weird since I have always felt the differential is the actual key and wondered if you just knew something special =)

    A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

    by Todd Jewell on Nov 25, 2009 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

    please use turnover DIFFERENCE

    I figured that we could at least use the correct term at MHR even if the MSM continues to misuse this word. A difference (in math) is what happens when you subtract one number from another – which is occurring here. A differential (in math) is function in calculus or a part of your automobile.

    by DE_BroncoFan on Nov 25, 2009 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

    or the dictionary

    differential:
    1 a : of, relating to, or constituting a difference

    A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

    by Todd Jewell on Nov 25, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions  

    Beat me to it, Todd!

    - Jason

    I gather speed by you f***ing with me - EV

    by jubei on Nov 25, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

    Guys, got it. I'll do my best to keep the terminology consistent with my intended meaning.

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

    Splitting hairs.

    Given the context, I think we can consider the terms synonymous. In fact, Webster defines differential as:

    • of, relating to, or constituting a difference
    • relating to quantitative differences

    Since we’re not getting ready to integrate or differentiate a function, I think we can let this one go. (As an aside, a differential in calculus is not a function. It is an infinitesimal quantity.)

    At least we don’t hear the typical MSM mistake of calling the TO differential (via subtraction) the TO ratio (via division).

    - Jason

    I gather speed by you f***ing with me - EV

    by jubei on Nov 25, 2009 11:45 AM MST up reply actions  

    Excellent post!

    (Raiders game 1 should be listed here, 409 yds off, we let them off the hook)
    (Cowboy's should be listed here - They are who we thought they were)
    Skins
    Raidaaas (game 2)
    ***Super Bowl Champion Steelers!***

    Next victim: Bolts - Thanks for Chambers by the way, Cassel to Chambers = Touchdown KANSAS CITY!

    by cpa913 on Nov 25, 2009 10:17 AM MST reply actions  

    Thanks, homie

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

    Excellent as always

    Thanks Dude.

    Yeah… we pretty much suck right now as the stats say- easy to see why we’re losing instead of winning. Hopefully we can get that turned around this week.

    by AllBroncsallday on Nov 25, 2009 10:18 AM MST reply actions  

    It all stops...Thursday!

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

    Man, that bar chart scares the crap out of me.

    I don’t like that trend one little bit. It was absolutely crushing as a fan to watch the Broncos cough the ball up like they did against SD. Can’t imagine what it was like for the defense.

    One drive, it’s the QB handing it over after the running game appeared unstoppable. The next, it’s one of our backs letting it go after KO airs it out with authority (yes, that was a TD). Both instances, the offense looks great, only to give the ball away. This will not do. As for how it gets fixed, I have no idea. A lot of these turnovers just feel like cruel twists of fate.

    Maybe the TO differential is the stat that won’t open the pod bay doors…

    “I’m sorry, Bronco Fan, I’m afraid I can’t do that. "

    - Jason

    I gather speed by you f***ing with me - EV

    by jubei on Nov 25, 2009 10:38 AM MST reply actions  

    Jubei, with fumbles, it is exactly that....luck

    Going to be doing a piece on this soon, but a fumble recovery really is random…

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions  

    Love the post, hate the picture

    We’ve had it hard enough, did we need to see Rivers’ stupid grinning mug on the home page today? ;-) But thanks for the rest of the (sobering) analysis.

    There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos fan in Niners/Raiders country, and damned proud of it.

    by underdog on Nov 25, 2009 11:30 AM MST reply actions  

    /holding hands over eyes while separating fingers to peek at the stats

    Ouch! Can we put a tourniquet on the wound?

    As mentioned above the bar chart is horrific. I don’t blame our O or D for the losses. It has been a team collapse. The O isn’t getting points. The D isn’t getting turnovers and is allowing points.

    It’s time to turn this around. Go Broncos!

    by Beer30Bronco on Nov 25, 2009 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

    Eli will give us back a few of these, I am confident!

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

    Are we in a 'slump' or a 'trend' of getting weaker?

    This is what has frustrated me and we know in the back of our minds that we are losing the categories terribly, but what is really going on with this team? Are they just in a funk or has other teams figured us out to the point if we don’t change we will be beat almost every time. Green Bay and Minn look real tough and poor ol’ Chicago in in worser shape than we are. Thanks TJ for the great work.

    by bfree2bronc on Nov 25, 2009 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

    I can't put a finger on it myself.

    Thanks TJ for the work…….those stat really don’t lie.

    I just can’t believe we are in this kind of a funk. I mean if we didnt’ start 6-0 I would see things differently, however we were really clicking, especially on defense. The players really need to reach deep down or something.

    2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
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    by weazel on Nov 25, 2009 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

    from the scheme we are not blitzing as much, I can tell you that. I'd rather sell out and create pressure...

    and get beat that way vs. rushing three or four and being picked apart

    thanks for the kind words…

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

    McDaniels addressed this today saying if teams are constantly doing 3 step drops, they are not going to blitz

    A truth can only be expressed and enveloped in words if it is one-sided. Everything that is thought and expressed in words is one-sided, only half the truth; it all lacks totality, completeness, unity.

    by Todd Jewell on Nov 25, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions  

    Todd, I think SD planned for a lot of this going into the game, given Den rushed the A gap

    last game so effectively. However, there were several shotgun formations from San Diego in which they could have brought a zone blitz, IMHO.

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

    as soon as I saw the ball come out of Simms head I was just like aww cmon with all the free time hes had as the backup he has never read the stats that done lie !!

    Turnover are a killer for us no doubt we just dont generate enough ST plays or defensive turnovers to be able to survive more than one turnover offensively and even that is pushing it.

    by Hoopforia on Nov 25, 2009 11:38 AM MST reply actions  

    Hoop, I think Simms was certainly rusty....

    The fact that he didn’t step up on the pocket made me think he was really just starting over again…..

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:10 PM MST up reply actions  

    Did the stats lie in the Browns-Lions game?

    Why is it always the worst teams on Earth that make lies out of stats? :) Perhaps because they are so bad that it takes a miracle fluke to win games…Defensive PI with 0:00 on the clock. lol

    Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

    The guy formerly known as ZAPPA

    by Tim Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 11:59 AM MST reply actions  

    Zappa, thanks for mentioning this

    I was going to go into that game, but when I watched it on rewind, I just couldn’t believe that I was going to waste space on Cleveland/Detroit…

    …and, did you see Stafford? He looked like a kick who is not really hurt at the end of the game but wants everyone to think he is…

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:09 PM MST up reply actions  

    It's a good post

    but boy is it depressing. I can’t do more than skim it really. :(

    We MUST STOP THE BLEEDING and by bleeding I mean turnovers. I think that’s the biggest issue we’ve been having, like you said it has been affecting TOP, field position, and game momentum as well as robbing us of scores.

    by poorboywilly on Nov 25, 2009 12:28 PM MST reply actions  

    Jason, a skim is fine with me

    as long as you got the general points..

    Tell me if you think I should cut any of these stats out, however. When I first started doing this, I didn’t have as must stuff. But then people asked for more things and it’s at the place you see now. Would appreciate the feedback!

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:11 PM MST up reply actions  

    no I think you are doing a great job

    The skimming was definitely related to the general disdain I still have for the SD game, not any critique of your post.

    I don’t think any one of the stats tells the full story. Turnovers may have a great impact, but what if the turnover differential is even? TOP may be one-sided, but what if Peyton Manning just drove for three touchdowns each in under 4 minutes? Field position battle is also very important. A drive’s success is inversely proportional to length of field to the endzone. Of course, third downs tell an important story. Is your defense stopping their offense when it matters most? are your drives going to stall out after a couple first downs?

    I think each stat has a great place in telling the story and, taken as a whole, they just don’t lie :). I also like how you are keeping track of which teams are doing the best in these categories. Can really tell you if a team is maybe getting lucky or if they are executing well and getting an unfortunate shaft.

    by poorboywilly on Nov 25, 2009 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

    Good news at least

    Dawkins will play tomorrow

    Denver Post blog post

    There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos fan in Niners/Raiders country, and damned proud of it.

    by underdog on Nov 25, 2009 1:01 PM MST reply actions  

    at least we're not

    the browns. But we’re giving it our best shot…stinks like brown. I’m going to eat turkey, because my crow eatin’ days are over. 7-9 was the prediction, and that now is in sight. whaaaaaa.

    If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy. - Thomas Jefferson

    by Trogdoor on Nov 25, 2009 1:26 PM MST reply actions  

    Ha, trog, we are still primed for 12-4, man! ;-)

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

    No more turnovers,

    they have been just killing the life out of this team. They didn’t really recover fully from that Simms fumble on the first drive, that was like a sucker punch to the gut taking air right out of your lungs, and it hurt bad.

    Thanks TJ, the Dude, for another great breakdown.

    "A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do" Walter Gagenot
    "Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."

    by bchiper on Nov 25, 2009 2:22 PM MST reply actions  

    Bchiper, after doing this for so many weeks and seeing ther percentages with turnover margins...

    …it’s rather difficult to watch Denver go down -2 or -3 on the turnover margin in the first half….I just keep telling myself, okay, perhaps this is one of those 1 out of 10 times..but it is like a punch to the gut..or to the groin…

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 25, 2009 3:15 PM MST up reply actions  

    Great post, as usual...But, sigh!

    Go Broncos…Let’s get us a win tomorrow and let the Stats show that it is no lie!

    by BroncoSense72 on Nov 25, 2009 5:50 PM MST reply actions  

    Hey man, it's a given. I just performed a thanksgiving ritual with my Eddie Royal jersey...so we are good, man!

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 26, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

    Cheers Duderino!

    Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

    by KaptainKirk on Nov 25, 2009 8:39 PM MST reply actions  

    Happy Thanksgiving Kap.....even to the Raiders???

    "Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

    by TJ Johnson on Nov 26, 2009 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

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