Horse Tracks 11/26/09 - Dawkins probable; Harris, Jordan out as Broncos host Giants tonight
Happy Thanksgiving, MHR Friends! Apologies for the late post, but my wife and I are under the weather here and missing out on the festivities today. Of course, we'll be watching plenty of football (and Marquette Basketball) today. Best wishes for a happy and healthy holiday - be safe, don't drink and drive. Most importantly, be thankful for everything you have! I'm thankful for so many things, including being a part of this community here! Go Broncos!!!!
DB - Matchup: Broncos vs. Giants - Broncos TV
DB - A Closer Look: New York Giants - Gray Caldwell
DB - Tickets Available for Giants Game - Chris Gentilviso
I just checked - there are still some available...
DB - Week 12 - Wed: McDaniels - Broncos TV
LTC - Giant Task - Brian Howell
DPP - Teen catches a break when Marshall becomes his guardian - Lindsay Jones
DPP - Scouting report: Giants at Broncos - Jeff Legwold
DPP - Analysis: Giants' running game to test Broncos' defense - Jeff Legwold
DPP - Briefs: Orton expected to get the start - Mike Klis
CSG - Harris to miss another game for Broncos - Frank Schwab
DPP - Q&A: Next year's QB draft class far from dandy - Jeff Legwold
NYT - N.F.L.’s Moves Signal a Truce on Concussions - Alan Schwarz
DB - Week 12 - Wed: Bailey - Broncos TV
NFLN - Top 5 Broncos moments in Denver - Video
This is a strange list...
NFLN - WK 12 Playbook: Giants vs. Broncos - Video
NFLN - Giants vs. Broncos discussion - Video
NFLN - Broncos on Thanksgiving - Video
Tony Scheffler and Elvis Dumervil talk about Thanksgiving and which Bronco player would eat the most.
DB - This Week in Gameday: Always On Call - Chris Gentilviso
DB - Committed to Communication - Chris Gentilviso
DPP - Dawkins brings team together - Mike Klis
DPP - Running game holds the key for Broncos - Dave Krieger
DPP - Woody's Mailbag: Simms' state of mind
CSG - Losing streaks make NFL life miserable - Frank Schwab
CSG - Top 10: Worst draft picks - Frank Schwab
CBS4 - Broncos' McBath Enjoys A Great Rookie Year - Jesse Sarles
AP - Broncos try to end 4 game skid - Arnie Stapleton
FH - Slumping Broncos Search for Answers - Nancy Gay
ESPN - Giants-Broncos - Bill Williamson
ESPN Insider - Giants-Denver: 10 observations - Jeremy Green
Giants 20, Broncos 17
Giants News
NYT - Giants’ Holiday Rituals Don’t Often Include Playing - Joe LaPointe
NYDN - One-game run has Giants ready to feast on slumping Broncos on Thanksgiving - Ralph Vacchiano
NYP - Playoff-hopeful Giants set for blundering Broncos - Paul Schwartz
NYP - Blackburn glad to get extra reps - Paul Schwartz
NYP - A Dirty job made for Manning - Steve Serby
Thanksgiving Day Previews
NYT - Thursday’s N.F.L. Matchups - Mike Tanier
NFP - The Player's Turkey Day Picks - Matt Bowen
Giants 27 Broncos 23
SI - NFL, Thanksgiving go hand-in-hand - Ross Tucker
SN - Danger zone: Beware the underdogs on Thanksgiving Day - Clifton Brown
FH - Thursday-and-Long: Green Bay Should Give Thanks for Aaron Rodgers - Dan Graziano
SI - City of Detroit needs Lions to continue to play on Thanksgiving - Michael Rosenberg
FOX - Countdown: Lions aim to protect Thanksgiving slot - John Czarnecki
AFC West News
SFC - Raiders' Ellis teaches life in trenches online - David White
OT - The Raiders' Shane Lechler takes aim at Cowboys Stadium big board - Steve Corkran
OT - Oakland Raiders finally make it to Thanksgiving Day celebration - Steve Corkran
SDUT - Congress can wait for Bolts' Runyan - Kevin Acee
SDUT - Chambers returns to challenge old friends - Chris Jenkins
SDUT - Blackout still looming as deadline nears - Kevin Acee
FH - Anatomy of a Play: One Blitz Paid Off Twice for the Chiefs - JJ Cooper
KCS - Chiefs’ Chambers out to prove Chargers made a mistake in letting him go - Adam Teicher
KCS - Chiefs lose another safety - Kent Babb
NFL News
NFL - Shanahan spends much of Tuesday talking to Bills - Jason La Canfora
USAT - Jim Kelly: Bills should move on from Edwards, target Tebow - Jim Corbett
PFW - Source: Bears surveying coaching landscape - Dan Arkush
NFL Opinion
PFW - 2010 AFC free-agent preview
PFW - 2010 NFC free-agent preview
CBS - Skirting issue? Nah, NFL doing right thing in protecting QBs - Clark Judge
NFL - QBs will dominate the MVP race, but others also deserve credit - Steve Wyche
NFL - Power outage in NFC East could lead to frantic finish - Vic Carucci
Y! - Trio of rushers a reason to give thanks - Charles Robinson
FOX - Breaking down the NFL's playoff contenders - Alex Marvez
FOX - NFL Truths: Don't get too excited about Young yet - Jason Whitlock
NFP - Wednesday whys: Tough questions on head trauma - Andrew Brandt
NFP - It's 'go' time for agents - Jack Bechta
NFP - Tavern talk: Thankful for Titans’ Johnson - Mike Lombardi
NFP - Diner morning news: Lions have a foundation - Mike Lombardi
ESPN - Jim Caldwell is the Indianapolis Colts' invisible man - Elizabeth Merrill
NYT - The Anatomy of a (Fourth-Down) Decision - Frank Frigo
SI - Patriots at Saints - Adam Duerson
NFP - News, notes on draft prospects - Wes Bunting
Picks/Polls, Etc.
SN - Week 12 NFL picks: Pats no Big Easy matchup for Saints - Vinnie Iyer
FOX - Week 12 Cheat Sheet: NFL picks and predictions - Peter Schrager
SI - The Peter King Challenge
"Prediction: New York Giants 27, Denver Broncos 20"
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Thanks Doug
Get well soon and Happy Thanksgiving to you.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Nov 26, 2009 10:12 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
+1 agreed, Thanks Doug.
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Nov 26, 2009 10:15 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Thanksgiving
to Doug and all the guys at MHR, and all the great Broncos fans here, too, who make the season more fun, or at least bearable (hah hah).
I hope to give thanks for a win later (though I will be watching the game on Tivo late tonight so there will be a delayed reaction).
Have a great holiday, all!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos fan in Niners/Raiders country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Nov 26, 2009 10:17 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Happy Thanksgiving! Thanks for the Tracks today Doug and I hope you feel better.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
by broncoholic on Nov 26, 2009 10:27 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
thanksgiving day
I give thanks for Doug’s efforts here to bring us Horse Tracks (as well as all the other wonderful things if brings to the MHR family). I also give thanks that Antonio Pierce and Ahmad Bradshaw are both out today.
"It's okay to eat fish, 'cause they don't have any feelings" - Kurt Kobain
by JChase8410 on Nov 26, 2009 10:41 AM MST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 26, 2009 3:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Doug, I also thought that list was strange of the top 5 moments...
They probably could have done 10 and included:
1. Okoye hit vs. KC
2) The Green Bay Blizzard Game
3) Montana v. Elway (that was a tough one)
4) 1998 AFC Championship down 10-0 in the 3rd quarter, to win 23-10
5) The Champ Bailey end zone pick in the 2005 divisional game
And I’m probably missing 5 others.
It did get me all emotional, however, to see the Rod Smith play and the TD play. The part that stuck out was how TD’s teammates were as happy for his as he was. Good lessons for today.
"Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
by TJ Johnson on Nov 26, 2009 10:51 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Doug.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 26, 2009 10:58 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Doug....feel better mate.....Happy Thanksgiving to you and your wife!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Nov 26, 2009 11:01 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Happy T-day NYC!
Horse Tracks is definitely among the top things I am grateful for this year… not sure how I ever managed before you embarked on this charitable enterprise. Thank you for your efforts, your consistency, and your passion.
Bummed to see Harris is out again, but remaining hopeful! GO BRONCOS!
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Nov 26, 2009 11:19 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the story Lindsay Jones did on B Marsh is not to be missed
After months and months of calling him on the carpet for his behavior, almost sensationalizing it, she appears to have mended fences and offers us a really wonderful ride-along piece on Marshall and his cousin. Kudos!
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Nov 26, 2009 11:33 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Agree Montana...best work she has done!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
by boydy2669 on Nov 26, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
chronic traumatic encephalopathy
Concluding remarks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/26/sports/football/26concussions.html?_r=2&ref=football
Here’s a little closure on the issue.
…the N.F.L. and its committee on concussions vehemently fought suggestions that their approach to the injury was at all improper.
The debate did not end on Tuesday, when the league announced several measures that most onlookers called long overdue. The embattled co-chairmen of the league committee resigned — "graciously," Commissioner Roger Goodell said in a leaguewide memo, suggesting that they would have been fired otherwise.
Casson and Viano’s leaving is a positive step, and Pellman’s leaving, which happened earlier, was also a positive step. However, there’s still indications that the NFL is better at ’talking the talk" than looking out for the welfare of its players. I take a dim view of putting business (or money) above serious health considerations.
This continued a pattern of the league requesting credit for improving conditions without accepting its role in preserving the conditions that required improvement. For example, when the N.F.L. decided in 2007 that players who were knocked unconscious during games could no longer return the same day, the league did not address how published research by its own committee doctors had declared the practice safe. And on the day that Goodell held a leaguewide concussion summit in June 2007 to show how serious the league was on the issue, he fought the suggestion that a player found with brain damage similar to Waters’s had developed it through football.
Goodell insisted that the player "may have had a concussion swimming," adding, "A concussion happens in a variety of different activities."
Industries with $8 billion in revenue generally do not court lawsuits, so few onlookers expected the N.F.L. to embrace the suggestion that its past or current practices were subpar. (For example, a player who was cleared to play after being knocked unconscious could attempt to prove he was knowingly mistreated.) But the league took a serious public-relations hit in the meantime, according to Marina Ein, a crisis management specialist based in Washington.
"They were dragged kicking and screaming, when we’re talking about people dying young and losing their cognitive lives," Ein said. "The resistance to the problem and the cover-up always leads to tragedy and a crisis that ought never to happen. How many players have been submitted to potentially life-altering injuries in the last three years, since the issue was really raised prominently?"
Incongruously, a study that the league commissioned — but immediately discredited — led directly to Tuesday’s events.
A segue on ‘proof’ — performing an adequate study can be — when it’s part of an unethical strategy — a tactic for proclaiming links to brain injury “unproved.” Unproved is not the same thing as disproved. It’s possible that the NFL, or its representatives, performed an inadequate study in order to disingenuously claim the evidence was mixed (still unproved), and this is a typical stalling tactic that allows an organization to present itself as addressing a problem while concomitantly preventing a solution.
no goats, no glory.
by Colinski on Nov 26, 2009 2:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
one more excerpt from the article above
If the league does follow through with meaningful independent care of player concussions, and does actually enact rule changes rather than merely discuss them, the burden of protecting players will continue to shift to the players. As the league has claimed that "all return-to-play decisions are made by physicians," all involved know that is false; most players with concussions decide to keep playing without a physician’s even knowing, or even having reason to know.
no goats, no glory.
by Colinski on Nov 26, 2009 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
for calling these items out — I breezed right by this article initially but your comments convinced me to have another look.
This has all the hallmarks of a modern day disgrace. The NFL should be honoring its players in more ways than enshrining the best of them in Canton. These are the men whose labors and sacrifices built this league.
What kind of insurance plan does the league offer its vets? If head trauma is not fully covered in a meaningful way that takes care of these guys, that’s a deep deep shame and reflects very strangely and poorly, tarnishing a league that is otherwise the greatest sports organization on the planet.
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Nov 27, 2009 12:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Help help help
I just found out I don’t get NFLN where I am. Please help me watch the game tonite online!
by Dixie Donkey on Nov 26, 2009 3:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Dixie, here is what you do
Go into the game thread about 10 minutes before the game and you will find people there who will give you “help.” Jenna Talia is usually one of these people. She usually and magically seems to be able to know where this “help.” is.
If, for some reason that doesn’t work, you can get in on the radio.
"Wait, let me explain something to you...I'm the Dude. So, that's what you call me. You know, that, or 'His Dudeness,' or 'Duder,' or 'El Duderino,' if you're not into the whole brevity thing."
by TJ Johnson on Nov 26, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the real streams will not be revealed until closer to game time.
There is always the risk of streams getting shut down. I have about three that I know of so far, but I’d rather not share them, yet, just in case it gets shut down. I’ll be around and let you know, in case Jenna can’t do it. Don’t worry about it Dixie, just hang around MHR right before kickoff and we got you covered.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Nov 26, 2009 4:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

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