The Patriots under Mangini in 2005 gave up too many big plays down the field and were so poorly...

The Patriots under Mangini in 2005 gave up too many big plays down the field and were so poorly synchronized that head coach Bill Belichick was forced to take over the defense in mid-stream. Every time Mangini was given more responsibility in New England, he was not successful. Conversely, every time Josh McDaniels’ role was increased, he kept getting more and more successful. However, in spite of Mangini’s bad year, he was rewarded with a head coaching job based on Tannenbaum’s recommendation. Now, is that being lucky? (And the Browns never considered McDaniels for the job, so clearly, the advice and counsel around Lerner is not of the highest professional football quality.)

Great story on NFP about the Browns

I bring this up because so many people compared McDaniels and Mangini because of their background in New England. As we have been saying here, from the beginning, the two couldn't be more different - from a pure 'talent' standpoint.

McDaniels grew up and went to college in the shadow of Cleveland Browns stadium, yet the Browns never even thought twice about hiring him. We are lucky to have him, I hope you know that.

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He gives a great interview

I don’t know the depths of professional football coaching well enough to judge, but if the rest of his professional demean is as thorough and well thought out as his post game and post practice interviews then we are indeed very fortunate to have this young man as our head coach. The Brown’s poor decision is the Broncos good fortune.

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Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Nov 3, 2009 12:31 PM MST reply actions

I could not agree with you more firstfan and John, but lets give credit,

where credit is due…Mr. Bowlen knows talent. ( at least in Head Coaches so it seems )
We are so fortunate to have him.
Go Broncos

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only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM MST up reply actions

Already there my friend...

http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/8/5/978753/in-pat-we-trust-bowlen-era-has

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by John Bena on Nov 3, 2009 12:42 PM MST up reply actions

I remember John, great article on Mr. Bowlen. I am so glad as a fan,

that I picked the Denver Broncos. Although as I think about it, it was about
this time of year, about 39 years ago… I believe they ( The Broncos ) picked
me. I’ve bled orange and blue ever since.
Go Broncos

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Nov 3, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions

Did you pick the Broncos?

or did the Broncos pick you?

John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)

by Joe Medina on Nov 3, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions

mcd

is a speical coach

okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule

by j-man on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM MST reply actions

We are very fortunate indeed...

As a Fan of the Broncos for the past 37 years, I have never been more optomistic about the future of our Team…Thank you Mr. Bowlen!

by BroncoSense72 on Nov 3, 2009 2:52 PM MST reply actions

McDaniels is a good football coach. Bowlen made the right choice.

There, I said it (and mean it).

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Nov 3, 2009 3:16 PM MST reply actions 9 recs

trillz

McD has a plan and i want in on it

"Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?"
- "I don't listen to hip-hop"

"Born like this / Into this"

by BroncoJoe311 on Nov 3, 2009 3:27 PM MST up reply actions

YES mcG...rec'd!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Nov 3, 2009 3:27 PM MST up reply actions

wow

McGeorge – it’s been interesting watching you come around. Being as optimistic as I am I always enjoy your pessimistic view of our Broncos to bring me closer to reality.

by KalispellBronco on Nov 4, 2009 10:26 AM MST via mobile up reply actions

I don't know...

Got an email from The Hater this morning, my friend the supposed Broncos fan. Now, the first six games that the Broncos won he declared they were simply ‘lucky’.

Of course, they finally lose one and according to him all of his prognostications about McDaniels’ incompetence and Orton’s noodle arm have come to pass.

It couldn’t be that the Ravens simply planned and executed masterfully and more important – you have to lose SOMETIME.

I’m excited about the future and couldn’t be happier we got McD and Cleveland got Mangini. I’ve known guys who have spent their whole lives swimming upstream to land a COORDINATOR job in the NFL, and Mangini – a man whose football acumen is questionable at best – has one handed to him?

We live in interesting times.

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Nov 3, 2009 3:53 PM MST reply actions

Breaking

Everette Pedescleaux on PS IL; resigned Carlton Powell to the PS. Released Darius Walker and signed Lance Ball, RB.

by JeffG on Nov 3, 2009 4:03 PM MST reply actions

Wjat is going on with pedescleaux?

by boydy2669 on Nov 3, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions

Got a link Jeff????

by boydy2669 on Nov 3, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/ball-powell-added-to-practice-squad/

by Timimus on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions

This will make it easier

Here

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Nov 3, 2009 4:28 PM MST up reply actions

What is IL?

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Nov 3, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions

Nevermind

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Nov 3, 2009 4:31 PM MST up reply actions

McDaniels is a great young coach and hopefully he leads us to many great years.

This has been the most exciting year of Broncos football so far. Pat Bowlen still shows why he is such a great owner.

"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".

"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.

by broncoholic on Nov 3, 2009 4:12 PM MST reply actions

McD

Love the direction this team is going. We have our issues, but you can’t fix everything at once.

by BroncoTwins on Nov 3, 2009 4:14 PM MST reply actions

I agree John

We are lucky to have him.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Nov 3, 2009 4:27 PM MST reply actions

Do you guys like him better than Shanahan?

by Donald Driver on Nov 3, 2009 4:46 PM MST reply actions

Yes...I like him much better! Thats just me though...I never liked the fact that Mike held his stars above the rest of the ream and unaccountable.

by boydy2669 on Nov 3, 2009 4:58 PM MST up reply actions

Apples and Oranges

but I will say I really loved Mike Shanahan when he was at his peak and of course he lead the Broncos to their first two Super Bowl wins after years of frustration so it’s hard to not have good feelings for the man. But I really felt he’d lost it a bit as a coach the last two or three years and had too much power, he made some bad asst coach hires and some bad personnel decisions that came back to haunt them. So I have affection for him but wasn’t sorry to see him go when he did, it was time.

I love McD, he just seems super bright and will just get better and better as he gets more experience. Feel lucky to have him.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Nov 3, 2009 6:40 PM MST up reply actions

FWIW

I think this loss will shed a lot more light on McD as a coach than the previous six wins. Based on what I’ve seen of the man so far, I think both he and the team will come out much stronger and with a clearer focus, starting with the Steelers.

Adversity will bring out character in those who have it and expose the lack of it in those who don’t.

- Jason

I gather speed by you f***ing with me - EV

by jubei on Nov 3, 2009 4:51 PM MST reply actions