Couldn’t we have landed at least mid-round draft pick for J MF WIlliams??

I’m really torn about this.

WOW?!……..

Can he still bring it? I trust McD, but I’m nervous.

Young jedi thinks he will win a superbowl this year LOL!

It’s McDaniels and we know that he doesn’t mince words or actions and this really sends a message to the team that he wants to win now and will get rid of a pretty damn good nickel corner to make this team great in 2009-10.

I liked Jack and I would have rather seen a wideout or Jarvis get cut but I’ve got to have faith in McD. I think it’s great that he is trying to win now and will make the moves to do so. I hope it continues to motivate Alphonso.

Williams off waivers and getting an extra DB who knows our game plan?

The honest truth is that I thought it would be Hillis, not Williams.

I guess (still trying to figure this out) this says two things:

1) McD wants to win it all right now. You don’t make this move otherwise because JMFW would have had trade value.
2)Alphonso Smith is returning kicks again.
3) McD must see something on tape from Law (and in NE) to convince him this is the right move. Perhaps he things Law’s knowledge of WRs in the AFC will help in that nickel

when Zo was struggling, but he’s an average player at the end of the day. His openness on Twitter is why so many of you are overrating him and feigning disdain. He’s a cool human being, but I trust the personnel prowess of this front office.

What has Jack done this year? I know he has made a few good plays, but it seems like he, and Smith, haven’t been getting it done as well as the rest of the DB’s, and I get the impression this is a clear sign that Smith, while hopefully the future, still is a work in progress

4th round draft pick by the Broncos in 2008 out of Kent State. 5’9", 183 lbs, 4.32-40. Often injured in college. Was battling illness this week and, if I remember correctly, had been injured earlier this season.

Negatives: Has good body lean and upper-body muscle tone, but is not the biggest and he struggles to ward off bigger blockers when working in run force…Could use additional upper-body bulk, but more weight could impact his overall quickness…Was durable until recently, battling ankle and shoulder problems throughout 2007 (shoulder still might not be fully recovered)…Plays defensive “halfback” in the Golden Flashes’ system, spending more time in the zone and attacking the ball than in man coverage…Appears to possess only adequate man-coverage skills, as he has the speed to run stride for stride with the receiver, but lacks good technique, as he doesn’t always use his hands effectively in attempts to reroute and is susceptible to double moves…His feet are often little tangled at the top of routes in man coverage, and he bails early on deep backpedals (does show good hips to turn and run, though)…Willing, but shows only adequate ability in run support, as he doesn’t separate from blockers well (needs to be more active using his hands and must learn that it is best to slip and avoid bigger blockers)…Struggles without the size needed to check elite receivers and while in run support, where he struggles to disengage when blockers get into his body …Sometimes gets overconfident with his foot speed, allowing a big cushion underneath and he doesn’t have the second gear to recover quickly when his man gets behind him…Has had good success on the cornerback blitz at this level of competition, but will likely get engulfed by blockers at the next level (must show better avoidance skills).

Jack is a decent backup CB. Very good special teams coverage player. Lacks the size and strength to beat even an average blocker. Will gamble at times to make the big play.

I confess that I am surprised the Broncos waived him. Not to the degree that I disagree with the decision. Only that I am surprised given that other roster players could have been the choice. On the other hand … we picked up a CB and waived a CB. Law is bigger and more experienced than Williams. So maybe he has lost a step, Law is still a viable player.

As for Alphonso – he is still a work in progress and has shown flashes of brilliance. Injuries have slowed his progress. And I have been a bit disappointed with his progress.

MAYBE we could have gotten trade value for Williams. But for who? Or what? It is a “water over the bridge” argument now.

Goes to show you how much we really know about the mind of an nfl head coach! LOL

denverbroncos : Back out at Dove Valley. Josh McDaniels press conference scheduled for 10 a.m. Mountain. Will help answer your questions about Law/Williams

Well maybe mcd wants to win now…..as in THIS week. however i doubt u cut a player b/c hes sick for one week

I have a feeling this was more about replacing Jack Williams than about anything else. They may have just wanted him off the team for whatever reason. If this was about simply adding depth or trying to get better at nickle, they could have kept him and cut someone like Moss or Lloyd. It’s hard to speculate too much because we’re not in the building obviously, but I just have to think that the reason this went down was JMFW. Otherwise, it just doesn’t make sense.

From Lindsey Jones’ Twitter, “Ty Law has Jack Williams’ old locker – and his number, too: No. 26.”

i tried to copy from one of the sites…but it wont do a table thingie…what i saw was no interceptions and…like…5 defensed passes…and some tackles (32 for his career – so far)

smith has 8 tackles and 2 passed defensed…pretty much came in his first two games?

soooooo…its not like he is champ

There has to be something else going on here. Jack has looked very good this year…

We all said Josh Bell looked good last year.
I liked JMFW but he is not capable of holding Ty Law’s jock strap….not even now.
I support this move.
You guys want to write off Jarvis Moss, but they are treating him like Chris Baker….a player with MAD potential for the future.
I am sorry to see him go, but welcome Law with open arms. We just got that much nastier in the back field!

Just my opinion. Williams will be snapped up by the Colts if no one else grabs him first.

but I think people are overrating JW a but here. Just my opinion.

He might’ve been the Randy Hilliard of this year’s Broncos. ;-)

Still, my first reaction to the news was… (abbreviated for family viewing) “MF!”

So much for getting younger in the secondary…………

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the Colts. Their secondary has been decimated by injuries this month.

We have a great Secondary back there and we just sold Jack down the river to win now. I am all for winning now but I am more for consistency. Signing a 35 yr old cornerback and dumping a 24 yr old cornerback isn’t how I would do it. I am not the coach I dont know what has been done out there in practice, but if anything, Williams potential was big and he was coachable! A Confusing move and one that screams “We need it this year” imo. Don’t mind signing Ty Law but the price (personnel-wise) is a little steep for me.

I liked what I saw from Jack this year, but I admit I saw him get beat a couple of times against the Ravens. One tough game and a young player is looking for a new job. Its tough to lose one of your up and coming young players. I have remarked a few times this year that one good thing about our 30+ secondary was the young talent right behind it, but that’s a little less true now. But one thought I had making that better: it seems in todays NFL there is always one or two good veteran players left unsigned near midseason that can still play but seem to be holding out for the “right” team, or possibly just aren’t sure if they have enough left to get through a whole season. Maybe McD can make a similar move in future years to keep us stocked with right now talent. We’ll see how this one works out for us. We’ll miss you Jack!

I trust McD, but at this rate, if Wesley Woodyard gets the flu, are we signing Derrick Brooks?

I hope, that in a few weeks we’ll see more clearly why this move was necessary. Perhaps JMFW had a more serious illness.

I saw both very good and awfully bad from Jack. One of the highlights of McD’s scheme is consistency. Jack hasn’t matched that.

One thing that I’m very clear on – Josh McD isn’t making a sudden move that hasn’t been considered from a variety of viewpoints. This may have caught the fans by surprise, but it didn’t just happen because Williams was exposed by Baltimore. That probably was the icing on the cake, but in all fairness – we didn’t sell JM down the river in a ‘win now’ quest and it isn’t because someone else drafted him – see our O line, DJ Williams, etc. Obviously, if he hasn’t stayed, there is something in his game that doesn’t fit the new Broncos. Something that he’s doing isn’t up to current Broncos standards. Actually, I like that. Getting better all the time appeals to me

Cut LAMONT JORDAN

watch Ty get a pick-6 on monday…

Surprised, but I get it.

The Broncos are deep at surplus DBs. A conventional dime would now have Phonz and McBath. They have Barrett to play the TE-smother. JMFW had fallen off recently. It looked to me like he blew an assignment or two (rather than simply failing to make a play) in San Diego. Williams was the least distinguished (and lowest-upside) of many faces in the crowd for pass defense and special teams. I’ve always felt that he’s shorter than his listed height, too.

Two other bonuses I see. Ty Law, whom rumor has it is very old, will see limited action and be able to preserve himself. And the team will have a collective flame lit under it — it’s hard to feel too secure when a guy getting lots of PT is shown the door.

CB Ty Law signed a one-year, $800,000 deal that includes a $200,000 signing bonus and another potential $400,000 in incentives.

$2,214,500/yr

We want Williams. I was looking through the comments here and alot of you were soundin upset they let williams go instead of someone else. How has he done for you so far?

is that I know diddly-squat about evaluating NFL players! I was very surprised also, because I shared the same assumption as most of you: that Jack “MF!” Williams was a good young DB. Well, what was I basing that on? Word of mouth. A couple of DP articles from training camp maybe.

My first reaction was that it must be something personal. Like drugs/alcohol, or an attitude problem, something like that.

I still think it’s either something like that, or the inconsistency problem others have mentioned. If no one picks him up, then I’d guess the former.

He is perfect for the cover 2 system and we need depth big time with the number of injuries in the defensive backfield

on this

For a few minutes this felt like a Dre Bly flashback. They even have monosyllabic cool names in common….

And then I realized that Dre was expected to INSTANTLY LOCK DOWN 1/2 THE FIELD STARTING OPPOSITE CHAMP!

In contrast, Law will be tasked with being put in where he matches up well, with no sense of desperation, maybe playing (actual running around time) 45-90 seconds a game.

Man this similar move feels very, very different.

Everytime I see a receiver score a TD against the Broncos, I check the Broncos number that is the closest to him. This year I saw #26 twice get beat for TD’s. Based on the coverage that this team has been doing this year, could Williams have been the weakest link? He’s not as bad as Foxworthless, but the standard seems to be higher.

There is something on the practice field or in game films that McD did not like that we as a fan were not privy too.Maybe Williams was a locker room cancer and Law is a team leader.We do not know.

With all that being said I just hope that McD is not analyzing the players to death and making roster moves that he will live to regret.This is the second move in as many weeks that Denver has cut a player in his second year in favor of a player that has been around the league a few times.Hopefully these situations will work out for the best.