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The Kansas City Chiefs Won't Lay Down For Us!


Entering into week 13 doesn't leave me feeling very quavery, but it does have me a little concerned. The Kansas City Chiefs have of late been one of our toughest games to win, especially in Arrow Head Stadium in December. Shannahan couldn't do it and what makes new head coach Josh McDaniels think he can some how break this tradition? For one thing, his ideals and schemes are not the prior regimes schemes. What he has though is a system that is very hard to decipher and defend against, at least when it is working right. I want to discuss with the brilliant minds of MHR and ArrowHead Pride of how this game will be decided one way or another.

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First of all let's take a look at the Broncos offense and what they might try to do to score points.

1) Kyle Orton is a pocket passer and I wish he had better scrambling skills, but I believe that may be wishful thinking. What will he have to do to be successful against the Chiefs defense? This is my theory.

    A) Kyle must have great pass protection from his offensive line. This is foremost the most important part of Kyle's success. If he is hurried he doesn't check down quickly enough IMHO to see the whole field. We have noticed this when he was in uncomfortable situations (hurried) and there were players open in another area of the field.

    B) The receivers must run good routes and get open. SD's Antonio Gates was successful last week over the middle for huge yards (118 yards) so we may see a dose of Tony Sheffler in that respect. Hooks, curls and slants probably will be on the menu with Stokley, Gaffney and Marshall. I don't very seriously if the long ball will be a factor, given that Carr and Flowers have done a pretty good job on the corners. You never know though, McD disrespected Hall in Washington didn't he?

    C) I believe this is the week that Moreno gets his first 100 yard game. He was well on his way last Thursday if it wasn't for Graham's holding (picky) call. Teamed up with Buckhalter, I see a running back corp having much success against the Chiefs. Hold on to the ball guys.

    D) We have to play ball control and complete 3rd downs. One out of three times is not going to get it done. What we need out of our offense is to be more successful in the RedZone. This part of our offense has been mediocre if not dismal at times. Why in the heck Hillis was demoted is beyond me, given his success last year coming in as a RB. McD you can't bring in a player who has been sitting the bench and expect him to be successful/ Get him in the game early and get him warmed up for those end-zone drives. So what you hurt Knowshon's feelings we need to score way more often than we have. Retired Mark Cooper made the comment about the Redone failures and suggested what McD needs to do. Run more sweeps and bootlegs to wear the opposing defenses down by the end of the 3rd qtr. 

On Defense:

2) We all know what our defense can do, so does the other teams and they have succumb to the fiery that the Broncos have done to them. Except for a few teams that really know on offense what to do with the ball. Our players had a closed door meeting last week before the Giants game and it seemed to work. Boy did it ever. They had Super Bowl winner Eli Manning running for his life. Go back and watch the Redskins game and tell me, did we pressure Campbell enough? He is no Manning and you tell me what went wrong. I have been cussing ever since. Dang...

    A) Matt Cassel has a pretty good arm but he will be miss Dwayne Bowe his best receiver, so he will be looking  in a different direction. Andre Goodman and Champ Bailey will have their hands full with Wade and Chambers, but I think they will be up to the task. Our front seven could make their life easier with a lot of pressure on Cassel. Cassel will slide out some but he is no Vince Young or Donovan McNabb. I'll put my money on Champ and Goodman.

    B) Dumervil and Andra Davis must scissor Cassel in the pocket and make the sacks where Cassel has struggled to complete 3rd downs. I look for BDawk in on safety blitzes (whew!) on occasion. Watch out Cassel! Ouch! Goodman once or twice since Bowe is not a factor could have a big day in the Chiefs backfield as well.

    C) DJ Williams will have his hands full chasing down Jamaal Charles on sweeps and bootlegs. Their 'bread and butter'? Maybe. Williams will probably have the most tackles again this week and if he stays within himself could have a very big day.

    D) For our front three to be successful they must stuff the gaps and stop the runs up the middle. If they can win the battle in the trenches it will leave eventual gaps for DJ to have sacks. They lose the battle in the middle and it might be a long day. Keep everything short and force them into 3rd and long. Cassel and company have been disappointing in that area. Ronnie Fields, Vonnie Holliday and Ryan McBean need to penetrate the OLine to keep Cassel uncomfortable. He will make mistakes if they do.

Special Teams play:

3) Matt Prater has had a lot of confidence lately and that is a good sign especially going in the power (games we can't afford to lose) weeks ahead. Mitch Berger acquired just before the Ravens game has finally found his legs and timing. Field position is a very important for us and we need to make every play mistake free. No holding or blocks in the back on run backs. Come team, you proved to the world you have the ability to shine when it counts.

    A) I don't know if Eddie Royal (and by the way, I have voted for him several times for returner) will be able to play this week since everything about his injury has been a mystery. Kenny McKinley, Correll Buckhalter and Alphonso Smith probably make the returns. They have done a fairly good job of getting good field position lately, can they be mistake free this week? We'll see, the Chiefs are no slouch on ST.

The bottom is, play mistake free, complete the 3rd downs and set them in the hole early to make them pass often. Thank you Bronco fans for all the support you give to our beloved Broncos. Any of you Chiefs fans are more than welcome to come on here and give you point of view of how you think your team can beat us. I would love to here all sides of this common fracas that we have twice a year. They are a proven foe, just look at the record.

Notice that I was respectful in calling their team the Chiefs. The doltbags and faders I have no respect for and severely dispise them in every way. I hope they never win a game ever...ever!

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If the Broncos win this game will they have a legitimate chance at the playoffs?
Heck ya they do and I'll tell you why.
50 votes
This game makes no difference, the Broncos are doomed for sure.
5 votes
Playoffs are a long way off and anything can happen in this league
37 votes

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i am very nerous for this game

but i like our chaners a lot 24-13 den

okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule

by j-man on Dec 1, 2009 7:24 PM MST reply actions  

Winnable and must win

We lose this one – playoffs have to wait for next year. We win this one – well, this is just as expected. So go out and win.

by si_ice on Dec 1, 2009 8:06 PM MST reply actions  

It's not too complex, really.

On defense, stop Jamaal Charles early and then pressure Cassel when the chiefs become one dimensional. I don’t think that the chiefs have the firepower to pressure us down the field, especially with our secondary, so if we can eliminate the running game early, that could be the difference in the game. If Charles starts to get rolling, it could be a rough one.

On offense, we have to stay balanced and eliminate mistakes. Running the ball has to be a priority. We need to get Knowshon some touches early and set up the play action pass. If we come out firing, that’s fine, as long as we go to the running game, too. We can’t make ourselves one dimensional.

“Eliminating mistakes” encompasses both turnovers and penalties, in this case. Obviously, we can’t have turnovers. Knowshon needs to hold on to the ball and Orton needs to throw to the guys with Broncos on their helmets. The biggest thing we need to avoid is penalties. This offense isn’t designed for second or third and long. It is a ball control offense that needs to keep rhythm and stay in manageable down and distances, in order to be effective.

My prediction is that the broncos do all of the things on defense and most of the things on offense. My 6 point prediction for the chiefs, IMO, emulates that the bronco defense has a strong showing.

24 is a decent point total for our offense, but isn’t really maximizing the potential of this offense. I don’t see us cutting down on penalties, completely. We seem to have mental lapses that result in penalties on offense and until they show they can have some self-discipline, I can’t count on them to do that with complete confidence.

I understand the whole “AFC West rivalry” and “Arrowhead in December” arguments, but I truly believe that the better team will come out victorious, in any game. The only time these statements are used are to play mind games with the opponent. This should be just another game in the NFL for the players. Every game should be meaningful and they should prepare the same way and execute the same way.

In my high school days, I remember hating our rivals and always thought that the game was much more intense on the field, but looking at the film, it just looked like any other hard-fought game. Two teams going against each other. The team who executes better throughout the game wins. That’s about it.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 1, 2009 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

How true and this has been our worst enemy in our loses.
"Eliminating mistakes" encompasses both turnovers and penalties, in this case.

by bfree2bronc on Dec 1, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I just hate the RedZone failures. Last year the cutster and INT's

This year with penalties and failed runs. We definitely have to step that up.

by bfree2bronc on Dec 1, 2009 9:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed bfree!

Anyone who thinks that going into KC in December is an easy win doesn’t know much about AFC West football.

I think we should and must win this game…but we’ve been burnt at Arrowhead far too many times.

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

by PosterNutbag on Dec 1, 2009 8:31 PM MST reply actions  

The Chiefs seemed to be in Shannahan's playbook more than they were in theirs.

It always irritated me when we would watch his patented 15 scripted plays and the defense seemed to know what was coming.

by bfree2bronc on Dec 1, 2009 9:34 PM MST up reply actions  

well

what i wouild do the chiefs will be loud at first i wouild put b marsh in the slot move him around KC only has 1 good cb no pass rush i wouild throw to te’s run no huddlie play like last week on D i love music and for my b-day i got 3 michael jackson cd’s tillaer bad and dangerous anyway i put thiller on duing the g-man game and we won big play the whoule album we just have to play our game

okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule

by j-man on Dec 1, 2009 8:33 PM MST reply actions  

Let's see which Bronco team shows up.

In KC in December is always tough….period. I am confident we can win this game especially after the Giants game. Keep the pressure on and give Orton time to throw and we should be fine.

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by weazel on Dec 1, 2009 9:47 PM MST reply actions  

Your title is exactly right.

This game has nothing to do with history, the fans at Arrowhead, or even how well the Chiefs play. We win this game with ease if the dominant defense and crisp offense, 7-0 version of the Broncos show up. If the can’t stop the run defense, and bumbling turnover and penalty prone offense of the 0-4 Broncos show up, we are in trouble.

My money is on the 7-0 broncos after figuring it out last week, and hence a 27-3 victory.

by ZTC_87 on Dec 1, 2009 10:34 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree and one thing I haven't heard is, how McD mentored cassel.

This has to have some advantages to it since McD knows his characteristics. I just hope he is too gentle on the kid.

by bfree2bronc on Dec 1, 2009 10:38 PM MST up reply actions  

And I am sure McD will tell Nolan what he knows.

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2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Dec 1, 2009 10:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Playing at Arrow Head always makes me nervous...

Stay angry…Stay focussed…Stay the gaps!!!

Go Broncos!

by BroncoSense72 on Dec 2, 2009 6:59 AM MST reply actions  

Staying the gaps..

I believe if the defense pressures Cassel into making mistakes like SD did Sunday we will be in good shape. We all know that KC is coming out with the run (Charles) early to open up the screens and slants. It is paramount that we stop him from chewing up long gains. That was something they didn’t do against Washington’s RB Betts. We cannot afford to struggle with them in the trenches, we have to win that battle. Chambers is another weapon the Chiefs have brought in to help give cassel that extra receiver with Bowe. Since Bowe is out Chambers will be the go to guy on most passes. One thing that will help our defense is the front 3 (Fields, McBean and Thomas) beating their OLine. This will give Davis, Dumervil and Ayers and chance to make big plays. If the front 3 lose the battle we are in deep Kim-chi as they say.

Kyle on offense will have to be patient scanning the field and with Ryan Harris back he should have a little more time in the pocket before it implodes. What I look for are a lot of screens coming off of the runs by Moreno and Buckhalter. Scheffler could have a big day at TE just like Gates did last week. Seems like SD mimiced what we did against them on the first game we won on Monday nite. I wouldn’t use Royal on returns in this game. I would let him rest with a little time on passing plays. We need him against Indy next week. I believe both games we play in 11 days can be won if we just stay within ourselves and play 60 minutes with the intensity that we start with. Thanks BroncoSense72.

by bfree2bronc on Dec 2, 2009 1:20 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

With you on all points...

I would just add…“TAKE IT!!!!!!!”

by BroncoSense72 on Dec 3, 2009 7:12 AM MST up reply actions  

1. No turnovers.
2. Be patient.
3. Pressure Cassel up the middle.
4. Stay composed.
5. No turnovers.

by quinnsdad on Dec 2, 2009 8:05 AM MST reply actions  

Chiefs can win!

First let me say mad respect to MHR & Bronco fans. I live in ABQ and have seen the Chiefs 3 times at Invesco. You guys are passionate but were never hostile as a visitor. I agree that if the Broncos of 6-0 with a stout defense show up the game could be 24-7. If Charles can get the run going, which he is a very exciting runner & receiver & we can keep casssel semi-upright we can win. Our defense will have to put some pressure on Orton like we did Rothlesburger but have not been able to a lot of then we will keep it close. In my opinion the Chiefs will win if we can do some of the things above effectively and have at least one turnover that results in a TD. I predict Chiefs 27 Broncos 21. Best of luck & go Chiefs. The honoring & retirement of Derek Thomas’s jersey should help the crowd. It is my understanding that it will be sold out & cold.

by casselreadychiefs on Dec 3, 2009 8:01 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Nicely done bfree

I think we need to keep Cassel from scrambling for first downs also.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Dec 4, 2009 8:48 AM MST reply actions  

We can't let him out of the pocket for sure. I've been thinking about how we beat him.

Doom and Haggan on the edges, DJ and WW staying the middleand our front 3 bull dozing them. Hmm. Can-Do.

by bfree2bronc on Dec 4, 2009 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

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