Colts 28 - Broncos 16 - Colts remain undefeated as Broncos miss opportunities
FINAL
| Category | Broncos | Colts |
| Score | 16 | 28 |
| Rushing Yards | 95 | 92 |
| Passing Yards | 262 | 220 |
| Total Yards | 357 | 312 |
| 3rd Down Conversions | 6-17 | 9-16 |
| T.O.P | 31:27 | 28:33 |
| Turnovers | 1 | 3 |
| Red Zone | 2-4 | 4-4 |
Here are the final numbers. Talk about the game. This one stings, to be sure, because the Broncos had their chances - but as this team continues to grow, and tries to get into the playoffs, this is a growth opportunity as well. The Broncos could have folded, down 21-0 early in the 2nd Quarter, and been embarrassed by the Colts. They didn't. They fought for 60 minutes. The Colts were better, and they won the game.
Each week we learn a little more about these Broncos, what they are, and what they will become as Josh McDaniels continues to build the roster in his image. Anyone not like what they see?
Congrats to Brandon Marshall for breaking Terrell Owens' single-game receptions record with 21 passes caught. Marshall was a Beast today. Kyle Orton played well, and the defense was awesome after a slow start. Too many missed opportunities, however, in short-yardage situations, to go along with sloppy game-management at times was too much to overcome when playing a team like the Colts, a quarterback like Peyton Manning.
Again, I know there is frustration, but I feel good about the BIG PICTURE.
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Well, go Dallas!
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Jenna you are correct as usual!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
Bronco's D really stepped up in the 2nd half
and Marshall is a hell of a player.
Great game
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Agreed
Pay marshall and trade Dumervil
If we have to keep one, keep Marshall – dumervil is a total non-factor when it comes to big games against quality opponents. That’s great he can get 3 sacks against the Chiefs but can hardly get any pressure on Manning
trade doom?
He was getting pressure on manning. He forced a few bad passes because Manning saw 92 coming towards his face. Manning was flushed from the pocket on a few plays. Nobody had a sack, but it certainly didn’t mean that Doom was ineffective today.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 3:08 PM MST up reply actions
I really have to worry about statements like pay Marshall trade Doom
Cause you know its easy to get league leading sackers right?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
of course. they grow on trees, nowadays, right?
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
Totally disagree.
Dumervil is the one player we must keep.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
oh, and orton.
and gaffnery and royal blocking downfield on many of the receptions. oh yeah, and doom, reid, the d line, and the entire secondary (esp rook d bruton, what a player that kid is!) in fact, most of the team seemed involved.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 3:27 PM MST up reply actions
Bruton was inactive. McBath played well, though.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
right. good catch.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
oh
denver broncos vs indianapolis colts. you?
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 3:29 PM MST up reply actions
Agree DD. Moreno, Smith and WW were disappontingly average but the rest of the team stepped up. It is no coincidence that 3 TD's were too Clark with WW covering. That was our weakness in pass and Manning used it!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
sacks dont always equal success...
manning is too good at not giving up the yardage, with dumping off, and doom created pressure throughout the game.
this is not serious, right? trade doom?
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM MST up reply actions
absolutely
if it came down b/w choosing dumervil or marshall – marshall in a heartbeat
im not versed in NFL contracts and where denver stands, is that even a legit situation we may see?
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
Why would we have to choose between them?
We can have our Beast and get sacks too……….
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM MST up reply actions
KB I have to check my link .... am I on the Denver Post
reading comments?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
lol, you might be. MHR feels............different.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
So Dumervil sucks because he didn't get a sack against the team that has conceded the fewest sacks so far this year?
Fair enough
But IND have conceded 10 sacks up to this point. It’s not like anyone else has dominated them. If he was struggling like that against KC then there would be need for concearn
10 sacks in the previous 11 games
and the guy that gave up 2.5 of them in one game is benched
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
The stats don't lie.
Except when Peyton Manning is on the field. The Peyton Manning Clause.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
Remember the stats that matter...
Colts won 3rd Down %, Red Zone – those weigh heavier than some others….
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not converting in the redzone has killed tons of Colts opponents
that zone really tightens up on the short field
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
amazing about no td's off turnovers.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions
True. I was talking about the turnovers and TOP and field position that TJ gives us.
The broncos definitely won the turnovers and TOP. I think that they won the field position because of the picks inside colts territory. So, that is three of the four. Peyton disobeys TJs stats, though.
Certainly there needs to be a Peyton variable in TJ’s formula, somewhere.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 2:24 PM MST up reply actions
the Peyton variable
is that your third down percentage needs to be >45% (preferably ~50%) in order to beat him, regardless of the other stats. I think TJ mentioned that…
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
true
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
The colts were not better John.....we were let down by bad coaching today...
But I cant be much happier by a loss than this. We can beat ANYONE in the NFL and will be tough if/when we make the play offs.
Thanks for all the threads Guru!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I agree Boydy
Those 4th down plays need a lead blocker. So do those 3rd and 1’s.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
I did wonder whether the injury to Larsen on the opening kickoff
put a crimp in McD’s game plan.
But that’s no excuse. He obviously didn’t coach his best game. I hope he goes back to school this week—as he coaches his players to do win or lose—and gets better….
"I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" -- Wimpy J. Wellington
by Broncs Cheer on Dec 13, 2009 3:43 PM MST up reply actions
Thats bad adjustments. Why did he not attack edges with Moreno in single back formations. It was plain stupid in my book.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I am Peyton Hillis fan but his blocking
is much less than Larson’s. Losing Larson changed more than has been mentioned.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
Hey John
Can you talk some of these folks off the ledge?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:54 PM MST up reply actions
If they wanna jump, let 'em.
I’m sure John is just laughing and laughing, right now.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
Well I did say talk SOME of them off the ledge
Not all ;-)
just kidding everyone!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:20 PM MST up reply actions
lol
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 5:23 PM MST up reply actions
Did anyone else recognize the irony
that Baby TO took over TO’s record? Tough loss, but with some positives to build from. All I want for Christmas is a short-yardage game. :)
"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Unknown, Hanlon's Razor
I don't think Brandon is Baby TO anymore
He’s the BEAST
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! Thank you for being a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
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Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
brandon is showing way more class than to every knew about.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 2:37 PM MST up reply actions
You mean
giving those 2 TD balls to Bronco fans wasn’t for PR value?
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
what if it was for PR? That made that woman incredibly happy
just because it wasn’t completely altruistic, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good thing to do
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! Thank you for being a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
Yeah
I liked it and thought it was classy. I’m just not sold on Marshall’s attitude. He is still on record as saying he doesn’t want to be a Bronco. He showed with his play today (and all year) that he is worth big $.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
No hes not KK...he is on record as saying many teams will want him not just the Broncos...
We need to sign him now.
Doom did not much today which was a bummer….
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I actually saw Doom getting some decent pressure from time to time
But when Manning patted him on the back after the game, he gave him a knowing look like — yep, we pretty much knew we had to game plan you today.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 3:58 PM MST up reply actions
Yep Montana....
Doom played decent but I was hoping this was break out game against 1st class opposition….just wish it was that game!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
If we got one of those balls we wouldn't be doubting Brandon's intentions
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
going for pr by being a classy guy?
ill take that any day.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
We still have a great chance to finish the season with three wins and end up at 11-5. That's a solid season.
Especially when we were supposed to be 5-11.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
It was a variety of bad records.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
11-5 Baby!
Til we ain’t. :-)
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
that is actually a really good possibility
if we play all the rest of the games like we played that second half or 4th quarter
That has been my realistic prediction fo the broncos' record since the NYG game.
I thank we can definitely pull that off
by bailey disciple on Dec 13, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
+1
-Richee
-"If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - Abraham Lincoln
-Measure your performance against your best competitors and consider how you can use it to beat them the next time!
by BroncoSense72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:45 PM MST up reply actions
We need to come out be the snot of the Faiders!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:57 PM MST up reply actions
come out and BEAT the snot out of the Faiders
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
Manning Hexed a spell on the broncos during an audible.
one of the mics caught it and the network apologized for it being broadcast live.
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 2:21 PM MST reply actions
First down...Dallaz!
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
we're still leading the wild card.. i guess thats big picture win.
all the 6-6 teams won and the jaguars lost. so we’re at 8-5 with 4 teams behind us at 7-6.
no more losses
Don't worry, we have Oakland next week...at home!
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
oakland's looked better lately.
it won’t be as much of a gimme, so we’ll see! gotta win at philly, thats the most important game now and i hope we don’t overlook the raiders in anticipation for the eagles
too bad fatmarcuz isn;t starting
i mean now oakland actually has a qb who can make passes, they always have a chance
and they're not throwing to heyward-bey anymore
so they actually have WRs than can catch as well…
Gradkowski hurt?
Thought I read Grad got hurt today so we may face Jabba next week. Sweet!
by SinDonor on Dec 13, 2009 5:48 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
He did...burt his knee. No news on severity!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I hate playing division opponents that we have already beaten.
We seem to lose the second halves of those rivlaries.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
We're not just leading the wild card race....
If you look at the division leaders in the AFC, we beat 3 of the 4 (San Diego once) and played well against the AFC’s undefeated team. I think if Denver plays well, they have a health chance to advance in the playoffs.
by WABroncoFan on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
LT is pouting on the sidelines before he has even touched the field..........
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
i was thinking the same thing
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! Thank you for being a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
3-0 Dallaz.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
i am generally happy about the direction
but McD’s playcalling seemed stubborn and arrogant today. Don’t run time and time again when it just isn’t working. Point: Running up the middle on third/fourth and short is stupid. the gut wasn’t open all day, why would it change?
Hats off to the defense for holding tight, but I’ve said it before and it is true now—their giving up points in the first quarter/half is going to get them killed. It did today and although I’m satisfied with Nolan’s adjustments, I am in utter disgust that he allowed 21 points before he adjusted anything.
How many times does Denver need to get burned before you realize the adjustments need to come sooner?
Also, I’d really like to know why the hell McDaniels didn’t let Hillis into the game, especially in the areas where Hillis excels like short yardage and red zone runs.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
by Joe Medina on Dec 13, 2009 2:31 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I am with you 100000000000 %.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Not sure on that...
If KM can’t gain the LoS before getting hit, hows PH gonna do it?
The selfish, they're all standing in line
Faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
Me, I figure as each breath goes by
I only own my mind-- Pearl Jam, "I am Mine"
by PredominantlyOrange on Dec 13, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions
+100000000 on McD and him being stubborn, especially in not using Hillis more...
But, the guys should be able to get those short yards…The line was not winning the first push…
-Richee
-"If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - Abraham Lincoln
-Measure your performance against your best competitors and consider how you can use it to beat them the next time!
by BroncoSense72 on Dec 13, 2009 3:50 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed!
I was really disappointed that Hillis didn’t see more action. Moreno looked gassed a lot of the time, I don’t think he’s an every down back.
I thought that once Buck was out, we’d see more Hillis, but NOOOOOO!
Hillis could have given Moreno a break, and got some of those short yardage situations we were in.
come on Dallas , don't make Rivers look good , k?
Dear Rockies - Thank you for a wonderful rollercoaster of a season! NL Wild Card Champs. Best turnaround in MLB history for a team to win the Wild Card.
Garrett Atkins-So Long, Farewell, Auf weidersehen, Goodbye!! Thank you for being a great Rockie! GOOD LUCK!
Troy Tulowitzki-MLB's BEST shortstop..nuff said
Yorvit Torrealba- Re-sign!! he's en Fuego!!
Brad Hawpe- I hope I get to see you in a Rockies uniform again!
Dexter Fowler - prowling CF, WC in his talons, leaping Utleys in a single bound!
He had that bowl full of grits before the game.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions
Gimmick play
works for the chargers.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Is this the de facto late game thread?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
The big picture? What about Royal, Hillis, Clady and Scheff
Big Picture? I do not agree that if we look at the big picture, we are much better off.
The Big Picture includes things like Eddie Royal, Hillis and Clady.
I’m really starting to think Shanny and Cutler made Royal a good WR. He looks like crap this season – a fringe NFL player with lesser talent than a guy like Gaffney. A shocking regression to be certain.
Clady is not as great as I thought he was. He is a very good player, but not a dominant LT like I hoped he would become. And Hillis? Where did he go.. Same with Scheff. That is four really good prospects that have struggled under McDaniels – regressed is the accurate term.
The Broncos are better in 2009 than they were in 2008, but a lot of the improvement is due to the vets we signed and not internal improvement from our young players that we need to get better if we want to be good long term. Nolan > Slowik, but there are some alarming signs that 2010 might not bring better days.
Royal, Clady, Scheff and Hillis have really regressed under McDaniels and that is a big picture item worth noting.
This is my favorite website.
Tom Brady said it takes 2 years to completely grasp mcdaniels system. half our team is new. If you can honestly say you are not happy with what has been happening then you need to wake up. this season has exceeded my expectations. its not like all our veterans are retiring. they will allll be back next year
I am not happy with our 2008 draft class because they all look much worse than they did as rookies. That is a big problem and it’s worth nothing. That is a big picture item.
This is my favorite website.
"Much" worse?
Some regression, sure. Not surprising, since many players at all positions experience some degree of a sophomore slump. Clady allowed a garbage time sack and Royal is being used much differently than before.
Scheffler’s not performing the same as in years past, but pretty much everyone knew that. It’s a system that doesn’t use the TE as often. He’s performing to expectations. And Hillis was a 7th-round pick, so his performance last year may have inflated your expectations. It’s not like he’s a crucial part of Denver’s future.
"I'm a Michigan Wolverine, which means I'm the only one who watches 'Rudy' hoping he pulls a hamstring or pops a quad." - Rich Eisen
Did I raise my voice? I hear this nonsense all the time from guys like you.
When I see a rookie WR in Collie school a rookie CB in Alphonso Smith, guys like you say blame it on the rookie or 1st year. Excuses excuses.
This is my favorite website.
WR and CB are two different positions.
It is a lot easier for a WR to make the transition to the NFL than it is for a CB. Not to mention that you have a QB named Manning throwing you the ball.
WRs know where they are going on a play and CBs don’t. Manning knows where the WR is going and the CB doesn’t. It’s as simple as that. You cannot expect the same impact from Smith as you can from Collie, especially given the conditions in which they have entered the NFL.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 2:44 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t really care about Smith. I think he is an average talent with a low ceiling as an NFL player. Teams miss every year on picks and we likely whiffed on this one. It happens to all 32 teams.
It’s the regression from Royal, Clady, Hillis and Scheff that bother me the most.
This is my favorite website.
I'm not so sure it's regression as much as it is........... lack of progression.
Remember, this is a new system. It is also a more complex system. I don’t know that you can say that they’ve regressed, they just haven’t found their niche in this new system.
For Scheffler, I’m not so sure that he will find it in this system.
I fully expect Hillis and Royal to find a place, though. It is taking longer than we’d like, but that isn’t to say that it won’t happen.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
I agree with McG...Royal is regressing.....he needs to be benched and bring Stokley in as starter!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Funny you’d single out Scheff since he has looked better than Royal and Hillis this season. What makes you think Scheff is a goner, but Royal and Hillis are going to be great players for us in the future.
Couldn’t be anything you’ve seen in 2009.
This is my favorite website.
I just think that Scheff isn't the type of TE that McD is looking for in this system.
He would have more value on another team and he could be trade bait in this offseason.
Royal and Hillis wouldn’t have much trade value, but they have a spot in the system in the Welker and Faulk roles, respectively. They just need to keep developing with the guys I mentioned being what they look toward as goals for their play. I could see both of those guys making an impact in those capacities, but they just have to keep working and do it.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 3:06 PM MST up reply actions
I could see a lot of guys make impacts in the NFL, but nothing from Royal or Hillis this season has lead me to believe it will be them.
Gaffney and Buckhalter look like much better players to me.
This is my favorite website.
That is true, but they are also aging.
We do need to find some depth, eventually.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 8:01 PM MST up reply actions
Clady Regressed huh
That is a joke. He is still the best LT in the league easily. The guy did not give up a sack for like 20 straight games. An very good LT does not do that. A Dominant LT does. I agree that Royal does not look the same. I do not think Scheff has regressed but he is just not part of the game plan. Hillis is in the same position as Scheff. Do you go through life negative like you are on this site. If so you live a very sad life. You are completely wrong about Clady.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 13, 2009 5:24 PM MST up reply actions
late game thread in fan posts section
"I just looked across the huddle to see the guys in the huddle with me: great offensive line, great talent at wide receiver, great tight ends, great running backs. If we execute and play the way that we should, it should be tough to stop us."
-K.O.
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 13, 2009 2:38 PM MST reply actions
Well, Let's Accentuate the Positives
we are not on the level of the Colts yet but we are a playoff team. Let’s just focus on beating our next three opponents and build what will be a successful dynasty. GO BRONCOS!!!
Brad James
Thanks John for all the great work and being the diplomat you are.
Like a great coach, alwayed focused on the big picture where others squint at the little things. Bravo Broncos!
We're 8-5
in a year when the “experts” thought we’d be lucky to win three. This is a process, but be assured, we’re building the right way. In fact, at Church today before I got to watch part of the game, we learned about growing through adversity. That’s what the Broncos will do. We’ll be fine. It’s time to beat the Faiders next Sunday, same MHR thread, same Battime channel.
Brad James
That's definitely true.
Not to mention that we were hanging tough with an undefeated colts team.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions
I don't care what they experts said months ago.
What they said 5 minutes ago is just as irrelevant. We could have won this game and a major reason we didn’t was crap play calling. McD needs to scream at himself in the mirror after this one.
Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal.
by MrFNSunshine on Dec 13, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions
how can you talk about big picture and not mention Bmarsh and Orton and defense
especially from the guys who usually forecast cloudy days and point to to Orton’s performance…I think he atleast played toe-to-toe wit Peyton;
Orton 29-41, 277 yards, 2TD’s, 1 INT
Manning 20-42, 220 yards, 4TD’S, 3INT
Granted, we had some bad 3&outs early, and lotsa trouble wit short yardage;
no Buckhalter, no Larsen
Of course, I wanna know why we don’t use Hillis in those short yardage situations…however, I don’t chalk this all up on McD and Moreno. Poor execution on all parts of the offense contributed;
4th and 1 with Moreno gettin hit behind the line by CB (Powers?); Gaffney completed missed assignment and let CB into backfield, not Moreno’s fault.
We knew Indy had a fast D, now we really know how fast they play, and where we gotta get to.
Our defense struggled early against Manning, but we all saw the 2nd half effort. 3 picks on Manning.
Yeah, Royal and Scheff were kinda invisible today, but somethin else happened in the passing game…Marshall set the record for most receptions…kinda hard for the other guys to get alotta looks when B-marsh is beastin, can’t jus jump to conclusion that they’ve regressed as players now. And Clady, come on…he was underrated last year, and now some over-compensate and overrate…he’s goin against two of the best ends in football right now (Freeney, Mathis)…
And wat’s wit all the “McD crap playcalling” defacto rants?
Sure, poor choices in numerous circumstances, however…why were we in the game in the fourth quarter? Inspite of numerous penalties, a missed FG and key injuries to our running game? That has to fall alil on playcalling too. Nolan and the D had a rough outing from the get-go, but they really stepped up and showed heart (Manning 4th qtr drive was tuff, but that’s why Peyton is Peyton).
We won many battles today but lost the war still.
I can handle this loss, it was hard fought till the end.
you already know.
by justwhytee on Dec 13, 2009 3:05 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
Good post Whytee....I agree with everythng except coaching. McD laid a MAJOR egg today. Whether it was stubborness, arrogance or over inflation of his ego...
He called a BAD game…VERY BAD!
Great adjustments in 2nd half on D and none with regards to the running game.
When you have a 250lb back that damages defenses and you keep going with a 210 lb back on 3rd and 4th and short, thats either arrogance, stupidity, a combo of both or an infatuation with staying true to your philosophies. Regardless, they were all major turning points, and all and sundry knew what was coming.
The formation is a dead give away that we are running gut EVERY time….why use Moreno as a power back…hes not…..get him outside with some tosses on on the edge.
McDaniels screwed the pooch today. I know he will learn, but he stole the game from this team. Sounds harsh…but that the way I see it today!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Maybe Boydy it was just that McD held out hope and confidence our supposedly strong run blocking
would correct itself. Maybe he didn’t stop believing in his team and they just didn’t succeed?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe DM.....but Morneo is just not built for that load.....the team consists of 53 men and there was a guy on the sideline that could have helped in short yardage situations. Why?
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I don't know if he "screwed the pooch" all day today
but definitely, I have to agree on the third and fourth and short calls. On the first one, I was yelling to run a play-action because I knew that KnoMo wasn’t going to get it. On the second, they were playing about 10 yards off BMarsh and if KO had audibled to it, it would have easily been and 1st down and probably more.
Other than that, I think he was able to keep us in the game after the defense spotted Peyton 21 points.
Initially my thought was that this loss was on the offense, but after giving up 21 points early and a missed FG late, it was a team effort.
But, that being said, at the beginning of the year, who would have thought that we would be it the position that we find ourselves in. #1 in the Wild Card chase and the one team the “experts” thought could be the team to take down the Colts.
A tough loss, but in the long run, we’re doing so much better than just about anyone would have guessed.
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 13, 2009 6:22 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
thanks boydy, I hear ya too...
I’m jus not sure that running to the edge woulda worked against the team speed of the colts D…I agree about the mysterious absense of Hillis. Other than the run plays on short yardage situations (not all bad playcallling), where were McD’s major errors?
you already know.
Umm...
- Short yardage play calls, formations and player usage.
- Conservative play calling in 2 minute drill where he admitted was scared to give the ball back to Peyton. We needed points and needed to attack not play run, screen, run.
- Running gut CONSISTENTLY during game made no sense. Needed to go to edge or off tackle and have a TE in there in run protection….much like the last 2 weeks.
- Conservative play calling to start the 2nd half and 1st posession in the game. I just dont get that, and it has been one of my pet hates of our play calling.
Look man, I get that it takes a while to master this system, but Kyle Orton is the real deal. He showed it again today. I dont get the stubborness of staying with a a game plan they is not working, and then not having a plan B in case of injury.
He put game in Orton’s hand s at end of 1st half, and we moved ball early. We come out 2nd half, run up gut, bad screen and another draw…..ridiculous when we had momentum.
I want to see McD be more aggressive…..the fascination with the run game today left me perplexed!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
You bet Just!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 4:59 PM MST up reply actions
TOTALLY Agree jwt
-Richee
-"If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - Abraham Lincoln
-Measure your performance against your best competitors and consider how you can use it to beat them the next time!
by BroncoSense72 on Dec 13, 2009 5:01 PM MST up reply actions
Great stuff justwhytee
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
"That's MR.Styg..."
by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 13, 2009 6:49 PM MST up reply actions
A Possible Bright Spot
Hard fought battle today, but a tough loss. We could’a won if, if, and if……..
However, had we won and then gone on to the playoffs, we might end up facing the Colts again. Chances of beating them twice in a season are infinitesimal at best. Looking for a bright spot in today’s loss, we can still make the playoffs and face the Colts again. Today we learned that we can beat them, if we game plan and execute correctly. So although the loss hurt, I liked the spirit the team showed right through 60 minutes, and think that this projected 3-13 team is alive, kicking, and growing.
Plus, we all know how teams do after they beat us........
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
LOL
Thanks for the game Indy — enjoy 13-1. ^^
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
Brandon Marshall
Projected pick by avg round taken next year in fantasy football? I’d say 2nd-3rd at latest. Damn what a week. Too bad the Colts are just too damn good. That run defense is excellent. Denver played really well, and if we keep playing like this, we will make the playoffs.
Brees, Marshall, Peterson. Bring it on fellas.
by RockyMountainHigh on Dec 13, 2009 3:46 PM MST reply actions
They were not too good. I will argue that with anyone. The best team lost the game because of coaching. Pure and simple!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
*-Brees, Marshall, Peterson. Bring it on fellas part.
I copy pasted from fantasy football league board. Playoffs. It’s gonna be sick.
But could Marshall even be a first round pick like Fitzgerald and Johnson?
by RockyMountainHigh on Dec 13, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
Playcalling...
I’d like to think that the Broncos were trying to win without tipping their hand, so they called dive plays in the most obvious situations, hoping the O-line could control the line of scrimmage.
I’d like to think McDaniels is keeping Peyton Hillis as an ace in the hole for the playoffs.
But ultimately before the season started, my hope for the Broncos was that they would still be in games with 5 minutes left, and they didn’t disappoint me in that respect.
I’d like to think McDaniels is keeping Peyton Hillis as an ace in the hole for the playoffs.
Would be nice but that’s pretty unlikely — in the playoffs, you win with what got you there.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 4:04 PM MST up reply actions
Hillis (I love him) has looked out of sync all year and missed some plays today again
He has not earned the playing time I hoped he would get. Larson is a better blocker
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:02 PM MST up reply actions
Especially on short yardage...
He ran out of the play to block someone who wasn’t involved, while someone else went inside him and made the tackle in the backfield.
The guy is just not a fullback. He’s done well either running the ball or catching it out in space. Even though I love the guy’s energy, I think he might have been a one-hit wonder.
Sadly, I agree
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2009 6:08 AM MST up reply actions
Some post game notes, Read the last one, its a stinger
rton on INT: was 1-on-1 sitch with Marshall, said he will throw ball up there. Marshall tripped. But Orton said he’d try 100 of 100 times
Buckhalter said it was same injury he had earlier this year (which forced him to miss a game), but on other foot.
Buckhalter and R Hill were on crutches with ankle injuries. McBath had arm in sling
Reaction seemed to be mixed. McD said there are no moral victories. Marshall said despite the loss the Broncos can "hold our heads high."
McD shot down a question about Hillis on short yardage. "We’re putting our best player out there," he said.
B Marsh can definitely hold his head high
McD needs to spend a little time critiquing himself this week.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 4:02 PM MST up reply actions
Well, if thats a quote than he is either in fantasy land or lying....
Moreno is not your best player in that situation….was not at the beginning of the season, 4 weeks a go, last week or today……McDaniels needs to get his head out of his arse and know that the more he works Moreno the more he limits his effectiveness. Hes not a every down back and was clearly over worked.
God hes an arrogant SOB sometimes….love him…..but this loss is on him!
Thanks for the info CBB!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I repeat
No running back can gain yards when our blocking in short yardage failed as often as it did today.
Moreno is not Jerome Bettis. But he played hard and had very few holes to run through. Weigman Kuper and Hochstein failed at key times and Hillis blew a couple of blocks as well.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
How many plays was Hillis in for...I counted 4 tops.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
At least 2 because
I saw him miss 2 lead blocks…
And if you don't do the "little" things
you don’t get on the field
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2009 6:09 AM MST up reply actions
Yup
-Richee
-"If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - Abraham Lincoln
-Measure your performance against your best competitors and consider how you can use it to beat them the next time!
by BroncoSense72 on Dec 14, 2009 6:24 AM MST up reply actions
Here's a stat: From the time Denver fell behind 14-0 on Indianapolis’ second possession, the Broncos outgained the Colts 350-176.
Noice. Too bad we didn’t also get the ~20 more that really mattered.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions
Not to take anything away from the performance though
I was amazing to see Manning had 11 yards passing in the 3rd quarter. When does THAT happen?? Nice to see. I have definitely improved my outlook for next year. I now expect a deep run. Most of the shortcomings I saw today seems like it could be overcome by some serious self-critique and another draft infusion.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 4:07 PM MST up reply actions
My grammatically skills is awwwsum.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
Indy o-line
How is it week in and week out, Indy has 40+ attempts and 0 holding penalties?
Above average discipline + refs favoring stars.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 4:09 PM MST up reply actions
if you watch how Freeney and Mathis get blocked
you’ll see that holding rules seem to go out the window both ways in Colts games
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 8:30 PM MST up reply actions
News flash
Freeney was kept in check because he went against a superior player and the best LT in the league. You are one of those arrogant Colts fans I was talking about earlier. The fact that you really think the calls were even this game is crazy. There is no way any team throws the ball 40+ times and has 0 Oline penalties. It does not happen.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 13, 2009 10:26 PM MST up reply actions
a sack and a tackle for a loss is held in check? ok then
and the Colts did have at least two OL penalties, just false starts, not holds.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 10:29 PM MST up reply actions
the Sack came when the game was already over so
it does not matter. And one tackle for a loss. Jump for joy. The fact that colts fans come here and insult our team is BS. Go back to your blog. We do not need you here. Ask anyone that knows anything about football and they would say Clady is a Top 3 LT or the best LT. Freeney was held to 1 tackle and 1 sack in garbage time when the game was already won. The rest of the game he did not do shit. If you do not see that you are blind
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 13, 2009 10:35 PM MST up reply actions
so Clady wasn't trying?
is that your argument?
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
No thats not the arguement you moron
The point is Freeneys stats for the entire game came when the game was already decided. When the game was not decided and not over Freeney was kept in check. Clady has kept in check a lot of DE/OLB that are superior to Freeney.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 13, 2009 10:40 PM MST up reply actions
but Freeney beat Clady while Clady was still making a full effort so why does it matter?
if the Broncos hadn’t come back from 21-0, the game was a blowout at halftime and Freeney had 28 sacks against Clady in the 28 would it not tell you anything about their relative skills because the game was decided?
Either Clady gave up or Freeney beat him.
Also check out the play-by-play, every single pass Orton completed was marked as short. The Broncos dinked and dunked to prevent pressure. When they couldn’t throw short to protect the tackles, Orton got sacked,
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 10:50 PM MST up reply actions
Hold on here... Clady's fine.
I’ve watched a lot of very good football over the past 10 years (and some football that would boost self esteem for raiders fans the prior 10 years). Denver has a great team – one that will be a playoff contender year in and year out. That said, the difference between great and insanely great is clock management and your coach’s game management decisions. This new coach the Colts have is extremely adept in both areas.
I suspect things will get better for Denver as McDaniels learns how to call a better game. This game, JM made a couple of whoppers that kept the Broncos from making an upset bid:
- Giving the ball to the Colts to start the game. Spotting Manning seven points is a bad decision. The Colts defense is built to play from ahead which forces opponents away from the run and into making high risk plays (i.e. throwing to the middle of the field, running to the outside and throwing into double or tight coverage)
- ill advised 4th and short runs that were stuffed. Calling a high risk interior pass that was picked in the end zone.
- Punt or kick the field goal already. Basically, had JM kicked, there would have been nine more points and it would have been a manageable one possession game when it came to the last possession for Denver.
Incidentally, JM is in good company with coaches that have lost games to the Colts on behalf of their players. The Broncos join the Patriots, Texans (x2), Titans, Dolphins and Patriots in having sideline decisions take the game out of the hands of the players this year.
On the matchup between Clady and Freeney: it was pretty even. Clady gave up two drive altering pressures (one was a crushing hit to Orton from Freeney that lead to Orton throwing a dead duck) and that sack. Against a player of Freeney’s caliber, that is an outstanding performance as line matchups over the course of the game favor the defensive lineman. It was the kind of matchup that as a fan you have to enjoy – two of the best at their positions going at it. Putting down Freeney doesn’t take away from the body of work he’s had over the past five years which routinely puts him in the Pro Bowl and in the conversation about best DEs in the game. Incidentally, Freeney’s compliment, Robert Mathis has been ineffective for the past two weeks due to playing injured. Denver did not get the Colts best pass rush, but I do believe even with more pressure on Orton, the game would have been just as close.
Good game, and we’ll see you again in the playoffs. You have one of the best teams the Colts have played this season. Check that. The best team the Colts have played this season.
by indymike on Dec 14, 2009 6:20 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
could not agree more
Nice write up, indymike. Thanks for stopping by. Some folks here get a little heated from time to time, as I’m sure you understand, but I think your points are all dead on. I’m really looking forward to our future matchups, be they this year or next.
That PM is really something special, and I’m very happy for the Colts that they somehow ended up with another storied career, the next Johnny U. As an Elway fan from day one, I know exactly what that experience feels like — it’s one I wish every team could give their fans at least once every couple of decades.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 14, 2009 9:45 AM MST up reply actions
Are you even capable of making a post
that does not include an insult? We’re talking OPINIONS here, not facts. Let’s keep it classy!
It's "just" football
Oh and Clady holds the record for most consecutive
games without a sack and he has not even played 2 full years. He should have went to the Pro Bowl last year but the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest and a joke. Go look at some stats of the LT that you think are the best in the league and then look at Cladys and you will find that Cladys numbers are far superior
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 13, 2009 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
and I like how I'm the arrogant one
when you are calling the LT that allowed a sack and tackle for a loss, the superior player over a guy with as many all-pro selections as Clady has years in the league.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 10:32 PM MST up reply actions
I do feel good about the big picture.
I was expecting a blowout after 20 minutes, but I was WRONG. This isn’t the same team of the last decade. I am very proud of our team in general and they proved to me that they are back into the top echelon of teams in the NFL. Now. LET’S WIN OUT!!!!
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
by Tim Lynch on Dec 13, 2009 4:10 PM MST reply actions 7 recs
With ya Zap
-Richee
-"If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - Abraham Lincoln
-Measure your performance against your best competitors and consider how you can use it to beat them the next time!
by BroncoSense72 on Dec 13, 2009 4:13 PM MST up reply actions
Exactly my friend!
Unlike the last few years we showed character and fought back today.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:05 PM MST up reply actions
Finally! Somebody says what I am thinking!
Thanks Tim. I thought I was on the wrong site.
Personally, I just don’t know how to evaluate whether somebody called the wrong play. If it fails, somebody can always claim they know another (better, presumably) play to run and give reasons. Bottom line, though, no way to prove that. How about all the other plays that DID work? Anybody want to change those BEFORE they were run and were shown to be successful?
postgame press conferences are up at DB
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
Great comments Zappa!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
what would the final have been last year...
If the 2008 model got behind 21 after 3 series, we would have been looking at a 49-6 final…and Cutler pouting after each incompletion.
It is ashame we could not execute in the red zone, but at least we had an opportunity.
cutler coudn't handle the mental strain
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Fe fi fo fum, Philly here we come
he would crying on the sideline
with his knickers in a twist…….Oh wait he still is……on in Chicago!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:15 PM MST up reply actions
From the way the Broncos played Indy . . .
at least for 2½ quarters at Indy, I predict a win against Philly.
BILLY THOMPSON GOT SHAFTED!!
yup
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Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 5:07 PM MST up reply actions
they sky is falling
The play calling is what it is, why not put the blame on EXECUTION. The plays were probably what Denver worked on all week and if the Broncos actually would have executed like they are suppose to they could have worked. So Denver lost a game to a 13-0 team, came back from 21-0. In years past the Colts would have dropped 40+ on them. This team didnt quit. WW was put on Clark maybe a poor decision but evidentaly Nolan has faith in him. So its so easy to attack the coaching when the blame needs to fall on the players. The coaching staff put Denver in a position to win. The Oline didnt play well on short yardage situations. Granted it is still a loss, but I feel better that I did during the 4 game losing streak. I still think Denver can run the table. I was hoping for an 8-8 record this year, they have been WAY better than anyone thought and they are getting better. Its so easy to rip the coaching based on perceived bad play calls, but I will put my faith into the coaches than upset fans after a diffult loss
- Dan Noreen.
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 13, 2009 5:08 PM MST reply actions 4 recs
You hit the nail on the head
Thanks for your comments broncfan!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:14 PM MST up reply actions
good to see you Dan
great points. bad execution on both sides of the ball got us in a really tight spot. After last year, it is difficult to watch our blocking….so inconsistent, from the backs to the TEs to the line.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 13, 2009 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
I totally agree
I do think the Oline will be better next year. The O-line is actually playing a different blocking system this year, not as much zone and Shanny ran. So I do believe they will be better next year, especially with Harris back. This team is closer to be elite than it was in the last 3 yrs of the Shanny regime. Plus I would for Denver to smack the chargers in the playoffs this yr.
(btw good to be back)
- Dan Noreen.
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 13, 2009 8:14 PM MST up reply actions
Nice comments BFSISD...and good to have you back!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
thanks Boydy. 11-5 here we come!
- Dan Noreen.
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 13, 2009 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
yes 11-5
We have to cover DeSean Jackson to make that happen…..How does he get so wide open?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 14, 2009 6:13 AM MST up reply actions
Blown Coverages.
That game last night was probably some of the worst safety play I have witnessed. It ranks right up there with the 2008 broncos with Manuel and McCree. I’m not just talking about the Giants secondary, either. The Eagles were just as bad. There were back to back long balls against the eagles secondary that were dropped by Nicks when he had nothing but grass in front of him.
It was a track meet both ways because neither team’s secondary could figure out what was going on. That won’t be a problem against our secondary. We may give up some shorter plays, but Jackson will not get that wide open against us.
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by Troy Hufford on Dec 14, 2009 8:36 AM MST up reply actions
Well Said Dan!
-Richee
-"If you look for the bad in people expecting to find it, you surely will." - Abraham Lincoln
-Measure your performance against your best competitors and consider how you can use it to beat them the next time!
by BroncoSense72 on Dec 14, 2009 6:33 AM MST up reply actions
Marshall is too damn good to have him catching 5yards catches all day.
You have a very very good team, this game came down almost exactly as i was replying on the threads here this week, REDZONE performance and our D playing the clutch i replyed to some threads that the most important thing your team needed to do was to score points, that formula of running the ball to win TP just isnt working anymore against this Colts , a shoot out is mandatory.
For what is worth i have some observations of your team, mainly one very important , your team needs to throw the ball deep more , those catches to BM were just playing into the Colts bend-but-dont-break defense game plan, did he average more than 10y a catch? 1 thing i admire from P Manning is that he gets picked 3 times(2 unlucky bounces 1 sick pick) He keeps on going, goodman played great he striped garcon of a few deep ones that were surely a TD or a very long gain, but goodman played great. But thats the thing 1 PM pass to Garcon or Clark = 5 passes to Marshall , your team needs to make the big plays.
Now you have the best passing defense in this league , take it for what is worth i really think it is the best, PM 4TDs were hard fought against a D that made him look like Grossman for about 30 minutes, im glad he is a robot and dosent get emotionally beat the 4th quarter TD drive just wasnt supposed to happen
Marshall is too damn good to have him catching 5yards catches all day. Was the pass rush that effective to have Orton throwing 5 yarders?
It was apparently
the only thing open that seemed like it could be successful
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:21 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks for your comments
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 13, 2009 5:21 PM MST up reply actions
I think it was what the defense was giving.
When you are behind to a team that has a GREAT offense (and already proved it in that game), you take the plays that work AND that make for long drives.
disagree
throwing deep against the Colts causes picks and (strip)sacks
throwing deep is what the D is designed to take away, short stuff is what they allow you to take. Teams that have success against Indy are the ones that give what the Colts D allows over and over without making key mistakes.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Dec 13, 2009 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
Exactamundo!
Nice points, SnB!
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting point but...
Marshall 2009: 12.4 yds per catch (long 75)
Wayne 2009: 12.5 yds per catch (long 39)
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Marshall vs IND: 9.5 yds per catch (long 23) for 200 yards
Wayne vs DEN: 10.8 yds per catch (long 20) for 43 yards
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Clark and Garcon have much higher yds per catch average than your #1 receiver, but if you compare your top 3 to our top 3 they are actually not much different.
The philosophy is different, certainly. The Broncos’ ball control game was simply meant to keep Indy’s O off the field and out of rhythm, which it did effectively after the first quarter.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 10:34 PM MST up reply actions
Correction: Clark and Garcon have much higher longs than your #1 receiver.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 13, 2009 10:36 PM MST up reply actions
I do not feel horrible about this loss
Obviously we have a lot to improve on, but not as much as many had thought before the season. Our D played well, and to be where we are is great. McBath among so many others are showing us what our future will look like, and I like it. I do NOT blame Moreno for the bad average, I believe what happened was our interior line got dominated by a good defensive front. We can easily win out the rest of the season and then we’ll see what we look like in the post season. Also, the Chargers are winning games, but i can’t see them doing much damage in the playoffs (again).
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
To add to your point
I think the run game suffered a great deal more from not having Larsen do the full-back job than just Buckhalter going out. There are two more comments I have to other people commenting. I should note that I’m still a neophyte trying to learn the intricacies of the game, so my observations may not be accurate, but this is what I felt watching the game.
For people who said that KM did not have a good day, I think the reason had a lot to do with him not being comfortable with playing on artificial grass. I believe KM has had very little exposure to that and some of his runs looked like he didn’t really have good traction on the ground.
Point 2 to people who were harping on playcalling running plays, I believe at least some of what we saw was to keep the defense honest. If we were gonna throw all day, it would have made the task easier for Indy to defend us. Now, they should have gone to different formations to disguise the run-plays better, but the call for runs themselves, I don’t have problems with. I would love to hear John talk about these things in the upcoming week.
Cheers and GO BRONCOS
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Well said
Thanks for the thoughts! *And I do agree with Bronkos that losing Buck hurt today too. And as I said earlier today given what most people expected this season of the team, I feel really good about the now and about the future. McD is obviously still learning some things and made a few bad playcalls today but there were many many more growing pains expected this season than he and the team have shown. I am looking on the bright side, gotta wear shades in the future.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
well i thought
that the broncos played very good today aside from the 4th and 1 i think marshall should have had a few more catches cause the runs were not workin but our d showed why they are good great pass coverage all in all i seen progress
Hard to imagine
a few more catches for Marshall ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
broncos win the Big Picture Award!
okay, but realistically, we lost… and pretty bad, too. I get the positive stuff as well, but sorry, there is NO BIG PICTURE in the nfl. it’s “win this year” or become a lions fan. i don’t want to be a lions fan. let’s go with a loss is a loss and a win is a win. today we lost.
Btw, thanks for playing Rams and Lions
If that’s what you could call it today. We have some lovely parting gifts for you. Time to hit control alt delete on those two teams.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Thanks again for a great week guys. I was at the game and it was good watching these two teams.
Good luck rest of the season.
There are bright spots.
Plenty of people have already dissected the nuts and bolts of this loss so there’s probably no benefit for me to get into it. I’ll just say that I am not as down on Hillis and Royal as some. It isn’t as though they just forgot how to play football. But if there’s an answer to it, most likely it is known only to the guys in the locker room. I’m not a coach, but that’s my opinion.
Speaking of coaches, remember that while McDaniels has been one for a long time, as a head coach he’s just as much a rookie as the players he drafted this year. He’ll learn from this, I’m sure.
On the bright side, it is nice to see that our offense can rack up the yards. Next up, points. I haven’t played football in a long time but as I recall, you’re supposed to leave them on the scoreboard, not on the field.
Despite the missed opportunities today I really think I do like the direction this team is heading as a whole. They weren’t able to sneak out of Indy with a win today, but they should have, and that’s encouraging to me. They could have folded after getting 21 points down and instead they battled back and almost pulled off an ugly comeback. If they’d stopped Indy on that last drive, managed to steal a touchdown and win the thing, Clady would still have had a poor game and McDaniels’ play calling on the whole would still have sucked.
They’d still have the same problems to fix. It’s the loss that bothers me more than the fact that a lot of guys – including McDaniels – had a lousy day, or others clearly have yet to get their sea legs in this new system.
If I’d come in here in July and said that in week 14 Denver would be 8-5 with three very winnable games left and a legitimate shot at a Wild Card spot – and the Steelers would be 6-7 and on life support, I’d have been crucified.
But if anything discussed in here could actually help the Broncos, I bet we all would have said “I’ll take it”.
Chin up, Nation. There are plenty of wrinkles still to iron out but there’s no reason to be outrageously negative about things. We’ve still got a lot to feel good about. At least, I do.
Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.
Yup. Agree with all of that.
Full teams play (including coach), so a win or loss is a team effect. Did we lose- yes. Did we show which direction we are going as a team (players and coaches?) and is it a good direction? IMO- YES. I for one happen to believe the best team won—- but now they are not that much better, and we are moving up fast from last year.
Not sure if anyone else is watching this Giants/Eagles game, but......
Colinsworth has said the expression “What the heck” about four times in the last minute of this broadcast. I have never heard this expression in that rapid of a succession, as I have just now.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
That being said, the eagles are going to be exploited on defense when we play them.
Nicks is tearing it up right now. I think that Marshall will have a huge day. The Eagles secondary is having a really difficult time bringing him down. They have also had illegal contact penalties on back to back plays and lead me to believe that they will have no answer for a large, physical WR.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
hahaha, okay Chris Collinsworth.........
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
Is anybody else watching this eagles/giants game? This game is crazy.
There has been over 700 yards of offense and there are still four minutes left in the third quarter. It’s like a backyard flag football game out there.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
B marsh is going to torch the eagles secondary
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 13, 2009 8:55 PM MST reply actions
I agree. If they can't tackle Hixon, they can't tackle Marshall.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
Yes thats exactly the same thing i said to my self earlier ...lol
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 13, 2009 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
You talk to yourself? That's wierd. lol
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
Feeling better a couple hours later ?
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 13, 2009 9:01 PM MST reply actions
Well, I think a lot of this MHR silence is either due to people drinking themselves to sleep or pulling the trigger on that handgun.
I’m pretty good, though. We are still a game up in the wildcard and we have the raiders this week. So, things should pick up soon.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
Collinsworth said "what the heck" again..........
I would say that we should count them, bu I am way too tired to do that, at this point.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
This loss dosent sting as bad as the PITT loss did .
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 13, 2009 9:03 PM MST reply actions
Or the redskins. At least, Orton isn't injured.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
Know what was missing in todays game ?
Special teams return yardage ! It seems like when the broncos do well in this area we win ……What do you think ?
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 13, 2009 9:07 PM MST reply actions
I think that was probably a contributing factor, but it certainly wasn't the biggest problem we faced.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 13, 2009 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
Would you like to see more stokley out there ?
I would .. He really is not being used much at all
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 13, 2009 9:12 PM MST reply actions
3 Manning INTs = 3 Denver points......That is uncalled for.
I give the team a lot of props for responding after being down 21-0. The defense got the turnovers and too bad the offense couldn’t do anything with them other than a FG.
All that said, I am looking at this game and comparing it to how we usually do against INDY on the road. We have improved. Now let’s go beat the crap out of the Raiders.
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Agree!
And let’s not get so introspective about this loss we don’t focus on the oakland “team”. They may not have Manning, but they can occasionally be the blind squirrel who finds a nut.
Jamarcus Russel is the QB, though. Gradkowski got hurt yesterday. We should have some more picks next week.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 14, 2009 8:37 AM MST up reply actions
Bronkos mentioned that the loss of Larsen was worse than the loss of Buck.
I tend to agree. I wonder why an O lineman – maybe Hamilton or Quinn (TE) – wasn’t drafted to run block for Moreno and Hillis when Buck went down (after Larsen was already gone). The rotation at RB really needs to be there. Moreno was limping at times – and give him credit – he sucked it up and ran.
The expression that I saw on Mannings face when our D was playing well was one of "Oh crap, we could get beat today!! I hope that we get another shot at them in the playoffs. It seemed to me that some of our guys couldn’t believe that we were coming back against a 21-0 deficit. Next time they will know that we can beat those guys.
If we can run the table – incl against Philly _ we should be in good shape for the playoffs. With the 5th seed, we may face the East winner – probably NE in Foxboro. I hope Cincy throttles SD next Sunday.
Rip ’em up, tear ’em up, give ’em hell Bronco team!!
Some good things
out there yesterday. The D really adjusted well, but spotted them too much before it happened. That said, I don’t understand why we didn’t bracket Clark with two defenders in the red zone – it’s not that we couldn’t have expected Manning to go in that direction under those circumstances. The middle of our O-line got blown up repeatably yesterday and while I believe it’s a weakness, I think a lot of credit goes to Larry Coyer and the game plan he had in place. I really liked that guy when he was in Denver and he had our number yesterday. And finally, someone, somehow has to make a play on offense when the D gives you three turnovers on the road. Whether that’s play-calling, execution, whatever – got to have points there!
Go Broncs!
It's "just" football
totally agree about Coyer
Doesn’t “no TDs allowed on turnovers” sound like just the sort of audacious stat the Broncos D used to have with him calling the plays? At least until the inevitable late season collapses due to Club Shanny’s abysmal conditioning program. Doesn’t look like Indy will have that problem, so I’m happy for him. Love the pipe and the emotion.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 14, 2009 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
Coyer has been great for the Colts
Manning have been picked 14 times in 12 games and we had addai fumbled once i think, those are 15 turnovers where not a single TD has been allowed by the Larry Coyer D of the Colts thats a streak no one mentions.
by thebossuzzi on Dec 14, 2009 12:08 PM MST up reply actions
did you ever see
the defensive game he called against Philly at Invesco back in 04 or 05 (I think)? Unbelievable moxie. He kept putting the entire defense on the line at midfield, like a goal line stand. Confused the heck out of McNabb! It was SO freakin awesome!
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 15, 2009 12:06 AM MST up reply actions

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