Mythbusters: Part Two
A number of weeks ago I posted an article debunking some common myths, mostly about the Broncos but the NFL in general as well. For example, debunking the myth that Kyle Orton is noodle armed or that Josh McDaniels is a Belichek clone. I feel it is now time for a second installment of common myths that you might hear that simply aren't true.
Myth #1: Jay Cutler can make any throw on the football field
Jay Cutler can make any throw on the football field to the other team. This is why arm strength is so overrated and there is a difference between functional arm strength and just being able to whip the ball all over the field. Jamarcus the Hutt can throw the ball probably 90 yards, but how often in a game does this come up as useful. Another example, Peyton Manning has incredible arm strength but if you notice most of his passes last sunday had an incredible amount of touch.
Myth #2: Brandon Marshall will not be with the Broncos next season
Yesterday it seemed all the Denver radio media decided that now that Brandon has a big game it's time to bring up his rift with the Broncos and point out that Brandon won't be a Bronco next season. The biggest argument is that with Marshall, Doom, Kuper, Orton and Scheffler all up for contracts the Broncos can't possibly keep them all. Well I hate to dissapoint the MSM, but for the most part these players will fall under restricted free agency because it is looking more and more like we will have an uncapped 2010. Besides, the Broncos have a lot of flexibility.
I predict the following: They will sign Kuper and Doom to longterm, Franchise tag Marshall for one year, try to sign and trade Scheffler for a 2nd round pick, and try to get Orton to give us a home team discount. My guess is Orton and Kuper might sign for slightly less than their market value to remain Broncos. Either way, while the MSM finds it likely Marshall is gone, I find it very unlikely he is gone next season. Pat Bowlen has even said he will open up the checkbook.
Myth #3: The Chargers are the best team in the AFC right now
First, I give the Chargers credit because I thought they were headed for 8-8 or 9-7 after the first Broncos game but they really pulled it together. But this notion that they are better than the Colts right now is based upon their past playoff history with the Colts. While true, this is a different Colts team and a different Chargers team. The past Chargers teams beat the Colts with elite pass rushing which they no longer really have. They've shown flashes but the Chargers defense has some holes. Plus the Colts are actually playing better defensively than they are offensively. Right now the Chargers are #2, and will have to play a perfect game if they end up playing the Colts this year. In fact, I would love it if the Broncos had an opportunity to return to Qualcomm in the playoffs to face the Chargers.
Myth #4: The Broncos are destined to finish 10-6
No matter what, you can't assume victories vs. the Chiefs and Raiders. All bets are off in a rivalry game. However, there is also this assumption the Broncos will lose to the Eagles. Sure the Eagles are a good team but our pass rush has the ability to Pressure D. McNabb. Jason Peters is a great left tackle against bigger rushers but he is going to have his hands full with Dumervil. Plus the Eagles don't run as well as they pass. Yet the Broncos strength is pass defense. I don't know if they'll win but I know the Broncos will show up and give the Eagles a run for their money.
Myth #5: The Broncos 2009 draft got some decent players but overall was not good
Knowshon Moreno is on pace to have an 1100 yard season which is about where Terrell Davis was his rookie year. This while splitting double duty with Buckhalter for much of the year. Robert Ayers has played the run very well, set the edge, and showed a flash of ability in getting after P. Manning last sunday. He is developing.
As for the rest McDaniels philosophy comes a lot from Belichick and Parcells and that is limitiing the amount rookies play. Alphonso Smith played great vs. Cincinatti but hasn't been the same since spraining his ankle. He has shown great potential though and will get better. Darcel McBath broke his arm in perhaps his most brilliant game to date. He will be our future Renaldo Hill. David Bruton has teamed with McBath and Barrett to be an awesome special teams force. Our coverage is much improved because of him. Richard Quinn has found ways to contribute and does a good job of blocking in 3 TE sets.
Seth Olsen has not seen the field, much like Ryan Harris, Chris Kuper, Ben Hamilton and many great o-lineman before him. (And yes, Ben Hamilton in his prime was a great 0-lineman for us.) Kenny McKinley showed great ability in preseason and Tom Brandstater is the quarterback of the future. So much so that the Broncos wouldn't risk putting him on the practice squad. Finally although Blake Schleuter did not make the team Chris Baker a FA signee could be a great 3-4 NT for us in the future.
Quick Hits
Easy to fall in love with the Saints because of their offense but their defense is a mixed bag. They can make big plays like int's, but they also are just plain bad at times. Not good to have Chris Redman pick you apart.
Ryan Clady come back to us. I just think he has to be playing through some sort of injury we don't know about
Chris Kuper, when did you become the best RG in football? I like it. Sign Him!!!
Ryan McBean-It was brought up a few weeks ago whether you are the key cog to our run defense. Turns out you are a huge piece of the puzzle. You don't get much recognition but here are some props.
Does Shawne Merriman care more about winning or protecting his copyright of Lights Out? My biggest problem with the dance is when players do it but they are losing. In the words of Keyshawn "C'mon Man"
Eli Manning, if nothing else, deserves credit for playing with Plantar Fasciaitis. (spelling???) It is an extremely painful injury
Al Michaels, Mike Tirico has passed you as an all around play by play man. I know some don't like Tirico but I think he's great
Jay Cutler alluded that a Quarterback can make a reciever. Well apparently Jay you were holding B. Marshall back, because he only caught 18 passes in a game with you and got 21 with Kyle.
Can Indy Colts fans really claim Super Bowl 5 as their own since it was won in Baltimore. The Ravens don't claim all the NFL championships from the 50's because they used to be the Browns. Know what I'm saying.
Here is a list of brilliant coordinators who should only be coordinators. (i.e. not head coaches)
Wade Phillips, Mike Nolan, Cam Cameron, Gary Kubiak (this kills me), Bill Callahan (great o-line coach), Dick LeBeau, Dom Capers, Romeo Crennell, Charlie Weis and Josh McDaniels. Just kidding on the last one, seeing if you're still here.
Parting Shot
Rich Gannon doing the Color for another Broncos Raiders game. Haven't we suffered enough already. Thank god I'm going to the game and don't have suffer through that drab. For those of you watching t.v. I leave you with the mute button.
Go Broncos!
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Well done. I especially agree with this:
Chris Kuper, when did you become the best RG in football? I like it. Sign Him!!!
I would make signing Kuper the number one priority of the off season.
We will now discuss in a little more detail the Struggle for Existence.
Charles Darwin. (The Origin Of Species)
by bradley on Dec 16, 2009 11:06 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Myths..............BUSTED. Great post. Rec'd.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
couldn't resist snickering at this
Jay Cutler alluded that a Quarterback can make a reciever. Well apparently Jay you were holding B. Marshall back, because he only caught 18 passes in a game with you and got 21 with Kyle.
even though I’ve been trying really hard to abstain from Cutler comments.
"Never give up! Never surrender!" Captain Peter Quincy Taggert in "Galaxy Quest"
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
hahahaha
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 PM MST up reply actions
I'd care if Kyle could find anyone else, or have a receiver with a decent YPC.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and then used against you.
Between Gannon, Fouts, and now Gruden...
It’s waay too convenient to always have an ex raider/charger commenting on every Bronco rivalry game. Maybe we can drag Jake Plummer away from handball and do some commentary. Besides a Gruden/ Plummer combo would make for some entertaining “color” commentary.
by rollinthunder on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions
Me too Darin
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Dec 16, 2009 11:42 PM MST up reply actions
Nice post, RMT
This offseason will be critical for Cutler. He is at a crossroads. He could be headed the way of Grossman in this league if he’s not careful. This is why I think the Bears will throw the bank and Shanny.
"But I hate the way our identity has changed..Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that’s the truth." --Brian Urlacher
During the McJayGate saga...
…I pulled together enough strings to come to the conclusion that the sentimentality some think Shanahan might have for Cutler isn’t there Thats not to say that he would avoid going to Cutler, but I doubt going to Cutler is a huge motivation. There was many a reference that— from the top of Bronco management down— there were serious concerns about JC’s lifestyle choices and ego problems.
The selfish, they're all standing in line
Faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
Me, I figure as each breath goes by
I only own my mind-- Pearl Jam, "I am Mine"
by PredominantlyOrange on Dec 16, 2009 3:44 PM MST up reply actions
I always loved how Shanny
Would go to the mat for his players. He even defended Travis Henry until he cut him. Now that he has no ties to Jay he has no obligation to stick up for him or even comment. Which is what I would expect from a class act like Coach Shanahan..
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Dec 16, 2009 3:50 PM MST up reply actions
The Eagles
I think Sunday’s game proves we can play with anyone. Going into Philly is nothing like going into Indy – I think our guys will be ready to play at the opening whistle. Given the performances against NYG, KC and now Indy I think Denver is ready to join the ranks of the elite. They have the skill, the communication, and the chemistry – now they just need to prove it through consistency. I think the fact they bounced back when down by 21 against a very good team says a lot.
agreed
I once heard it said that you can tell more about the character of a team through looking at how they lost moreso than by looking at how they won.
"Never give up! Never surrender!" Captain Peter Quincy Taggert in "Galaxy Quest"
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
by Brian Shrout on Dec 16, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions
I cant stand Tirico
His excitement seems forced to me, its painful to hear. I like Michaels better, maybe its cuz I remember him calling the Miracle on Ice- " Do you believe in Miracles- YES!!!!". That still gives me goose bumps, almost as Bob Martin did on 1/1/78 when he said “The Miracle has happened the Broncos are going to the Super Bowl!”
I digress, still cant stand Collingsworth. I can catch him in 4 or 5 mistakes a game plus he gets on my last nerve.
Great post
- Dan Noreen.
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 16, 2009 2:51 PM MST reply actions
Michaels Miracle on Ice call is great and legendary. I think over the years though he has started to see himself as the main attraction. Which in reality you are only providing play by play. I like Dick Enberg for his style, because he calls the game consistently, has his own style but does not try to take away from the action. I see Tirico as just being a solid caster who is a fan of great play. I lot of people don’t like Gus Johnson either but I enjoy the enthusiasm.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Dec 16, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions
Finally!!!
Somebody else judging Ayers on what he’s being asked to do rather than what they think/wish he ought to be doing:
Robert Ayers has played the run very well, set the edge, and showed a flash of ability in getting after P. Manning last sunday.
I’ve been feeling lonely on that point.
Rec’d hard!!!
The selfish, they're all standing in line
Faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
Me, I figure as each breath goes by
I only own my mind-- Pearl Jam, "I am Mine"
by PredominantlyOrange on Dec 16, 2009 3:38 PM MST reply actions
I love football
Because there are so many nuances to the game and now great players are all about the hype machine that the msm creates for them. For example, the cornerback du jour these days is Darrelle Revis, mixed in with a little Charles Woodson. Don’t get me wrong they are great players. But Nnamdi Asomougha is still the best going and a guy every CB should model their game after.
Rod Smith, here is a guy who should have written a book called “Throw me the damn ball.” Wouldn’t that be funny coming for Rod, plus he might get credit for being one of the best wr in the league. This guy was Hines Ward before Hines Ward but without the cheap shots.
Maybe Ayers should create a ridiculous sack dance, spike his hair, and get involved with reality stars. Then he’d be DPOY.
Tom Nalen was another great player who never got his due because he didn’t hype himself.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Dec 16, 2009 3:49 PM MST up reply actions
When did Cutler say or allude to a QB making a WR.
You need to back that claim up with a source or proof.
This is my favorite website.
i don't get the Cutler love on this board
but here you go. in his own words no less.
http://podcast.670thescore.com/wscr2/1882629.mp3
While Cutler acknowledged that you have to have talent, his true colors came out in the rest of his response:
“I kind of look back at Denver and we got Eddie Royal he was a punt return/kick return guy. We really weren’t looking for him to step into that role, he caught 90 balls his rookie year. Brandon Marshall was a 4th round pick. They thought him kind of as a project, played safety a little bit in college, had only played receiver a couple years…you know, I feel good about it. I feel good about the guys we got.”
So for all the fans that think the Bears don’t have enough in the receiver corps, Cutler basically just told you it’s not about them at all. It’s about him, and he’s good enough to turn any receiver with some talent into a stud. That’s some sweet, sweet music. Because since the trade the only time the excitement was dialed down was at the mention of those that will be receiving Cutler’s passes. Now he basically comes on the air and says he will make them good.
We can now return to our full-throttle freakout, Chicago.
that's not Cutler love
That’s asking for a source. McGeorge may be a contrarian, but thanks to his request for a source I now know more than I did about Cutler.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
Colts Championships...
When the Colts moved, the franchise and team (along with history) moved. When the Modell’s moved the Browns football franchise out of Cleveland, part of the deal was that the city retained the rights to the Browns name and all records etc. Essentially they just moved the ability to have a football team in the NFL to another city, thus the Ravens are treated like a new franchise, and the expansion Browns get to utilize the previous team’s history.
So technically, the Colts fans can claim those championships.

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