Is Jay Cutler better than Kyle Orton?

depends entirely upon how you choose to define “better than”

There have been a lot of articles here at MHR addressing that question.

IMHO, Orton is “better” than Cutler for one major reason, his performances to date have shown that Orton has been more open to coaching/correction than Mr. Cutler.

at least as long as this team is winning games. If Kyle Orton threw 20 TDs and 20 INTs in a season, and Denver won the super bowl, who would care. Stats don’t matter as long as games are won.

Right now Kyle is at the same record Jay was last year same time – but we have a far better chance of winning out both due to a vastly improved defense and an offense that is not likely to prematurely put the defense back on the feild. Being fair to Cutler, he went to Chicago to make things happen – and he has definately made things happen.

Had Cutler stayed in Denver I think we would be a game or two up. This is not so much faith in Cutler as it is faith in McD. Cutlers reputation as a rocket arm would have opened up the shorter game more even if the same plays were called – Kyles reputation as a noodle arm has worked against him – undeservably

In all fairness this is a comparison that can’t be made in one year, but rather over the two QBs careers. The dynamics of the two teams have a huge bairing upon their individual performances. I prefer to look at the totality of the trade – two firsts (Ayers and ?) plus a third (Quinn) picks and Orton’s final outcome (lower salary and possible future trade) will ultimately need to be weighted against Cutler and Knox. Knox was a great pick-up for the Bears – but many think Cutler will flame out and be another Jeff George – while others think with a decent team and offensive coordinator he still could be a special player – so, without the crystal ball I think we can only wait and see – and over next year and the year after the picture will become clearer.

Can Orton play at a high level? So far the answer is yes and he’s much better at protecting the ball that Cutler was or is. Orton as mentioned before is “teachable” and they allows him to grow. He seems to be becoming more and more comfortable in this offense and in turn McDaniels has exposed him to more.

Now the term “Franchise” anything is a MSM label for anyone they consider to be worthy of their accolaides. When the CBA allowed teams to place a hold or tag on a player to make it difficult for them to obtain a trade the term came into common usage. But, the MSM has now used to label who they believe to be great players. Sometimes if fits sometimes it doesn’t. So for the most part I throw the term out when I see it.

22 INTS!

Cutser=loser.
Orton=Winner.

Orton would have to be considered better just by the fact of winning percentage. Orton always seems to be on a winning team and Cutler on a losing team. Yet, Cutler has more potential and maybe this will be a wake up call for him to cut down on mistakes and play within the team concept. Chicago should hire a coach just for Cutler to get through his thick scull that he ain’t no Elway!

Elway once said the only statistic that really mattered to him was wins vs. losses. Folks can spin Orton and Cutler’s situations all they want but at the end of the day somehow, someway Kyle seems to end up a winner and Jay doesn’t.

Last winning season for Baby Jay? 2000 for Heritage Hills High School in Lincoln City, Indiana, despite throwing 3 interceptions in his final game (sound familiar?). Next, “Jay assumed he was headed to Illinois to continue his football career. The Illini had showed more interest in him than any other major program in the area. But coach Ron Turner changed his mind and settled on prep star Matt Dlugolecki to be his quarterback of the future.”

Cutler hasn’t had a winning season since. Any chance the Bears can sign Dlugolecki?..

who is a better Bronco?

I will say Orton, hands down is the better Bronco.

Team player, leader, plays hurt. will throw it away or take a sack rather than put the Defense against the wall. Sits and talks with the Offense during the game, looks at the photos and fires up the OL and listens to the Coaches to help rather than sit alone and mope like a spoiled wittle kid.

Sounds a lot like my second favorite QB in Broncos History, Craig Morton.

Cutler wanted this, so as my late father used to say…
“He made his bed, now he has to lay in it”.

Just kidding. =)

KO is perhaps not physically gifted, but he actually is an occasional scrambler, moves around in the pocket better than Tom Brady in my opinion, has an accurate arm, can put a touch on his passes, he’s smart enough to diagnose opposing defenses, and seems to be a great team-mate.

Not to mention the fact that he’s not afraid of anyone! I really like this guy being our QB.

There’s a somewhat similar thread over at WCG that compare’s Cutler (aka Baby Jeff George-BJG) to HOF caliber QBs. It’s an interesting read (expecially the comments).

The BJG apologists point out that this year his O line, coaching, running game, receivers, etc. are terrible and that his INTs are him “just trying to make a play”. When folks point out that he had similar issues in Denver with a great O line, coaching, and receivers, the response is “Ya, but he had a horrible defense and besides, he lead the #2 offense.” This absolutely drives me crazy. Although last year’s D was bad, I maintain that BJG was a big contributor to that. How many times would the D force a punt, only to have it turned back over on an INT (some times deep in our own territory). Tell me that wouldn’t affect the moral/performance of a D. Also, #2 offense in yards means nothing considering we were #16 (someone fact check that for me) in scoring offense. Does anyone agree that red zone INTs had something to do with that drop off?

I guess the moral of this story is that no, BJG is NOT better than Kyle Orton. BJG will make a few exciting plays but will make just enough mistakes to lose the game. Kyle Orton will make just enough plays to win the game.