Broncos cannot close the deal, lose to Raiders 20-19
by John Bena on Dec 20, 2009 5:40 PM MST
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| Category | Broncos | Raiders |
| Score | 19 | 20 |
| Rushing Yards | 80 | 241 |
| Passing Yards | 257 | 102 |
| Total Yards | 337 | 343 |
| 3rd Down Conversions | 4-15 | 4-13 |
| T.O.P | 28:34 | 31:26 |
| Turnovers | 0 | 2 |
| Red Zone Att. | 1-4 | 1-3 |
The Denver Broncos have had one flaw all season - short yardage running. It has been a season-long struggle that reared it's ugly head again today as the Broncos lost to the hated Raiders, at home, AGAIN, 20-19. There was plenty to be annoyed with in this game - the defense against the run for much of the game as the Raiders chalked up 241 yards on the ground. How about 3rd Down Conversions? The Broncos are in the bottom half in the NFL in converting 3rd Downs. Today? 4-15. Not Good. The plain inability of the Broncos offense to score touchdowns in the Red Zone - they were 1-4 on the day, and of course, short yardage running. From 1st and Goal at the 3 in the 4th quarter, the Broncos were unable to score a touchdown, choosing instead to pass the ball 2 out of 3 times before kicking a FG.
That has been the moral of this Broncos season and because of it the Broncos are once again staring right in the face of a season lost - missing the playoffs for a 4th straight season when having it's destiny squarely in its hands.
Perhaps most frustrating is why JaMarcus Russell chooses the Broncos to give Raiders fans any hope that he might one day become a decent quarterback. Coming in for the injured Charlie Frye, Russell once again led the Raiders to a crushing defeat of the Broncos in Denver. The same Russell that was benched for, first Bruce Gradkowski, then Charlie Frye. The same Russell that is being run oout of town by his once-loyal fan-base.
So now the Broncos once again have their backs against the wall. They knew coming in to the game, after the Jets and Dolphins had both lost, that 2 wins in their final 3 games would be good enough to get the #5 seed. Now, they need both wins - in Philadelphia next week before a home game with Kansas City - just to hang on to the 6 seed. A loss in either? Well, nothing is certain then.
Mike Shanahan, and in large part, Jay Cutler, were run out of town for their inability to close late in the season. New coach, new quarterback, yet the same results in a late season disappointment at home. No time to feel sorry for ourselves, however, a tough game in Philadelphia awaits.
Congratulations to the San Diego Chargers, 2009 AFC West Champions.
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We obviously do NOT deserve the playoffs
doesn’t really matter anymore, it’s over. I’ve never been so frustrated in my life. I hate the raiders I HATE the chargers, i just want this all to end, i want this season over. I’ll root for the bears to lose, cuz the draft is the next thing we have to look forward to…we have just proven how goddamn inconsistent we can be. Lets get some talent in FA and the draft, and try again in 2010
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
Agreed 1 billion percent.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Can't wait
To see what McD has to say about the game. Most likely that they were outperformed in all three phases, which I’m getting tired of hearing. I still can’t believe that our D let them convert a 4 & 10. The only ones who were getting pressure were Holiday and Ayers. What exactly was Doom doing. The O was just putrid. Orton has little time and line got no push resulting in Moreno averaging 2.2 yards.
"Pleased? We are excited about the proposition of going forward from where we are right now. Pleased? I don't know if you want to say pleased. You may want to hang your hat on pleased. I don't want to hang my hat on nothing right now."
-Brian Dawkins, on the play of the defense
Once he gets his hands on you, there's not much you're going to do. Then you can't outrun him, you can't run around him, you can't really run him over -- so you've just got to deal with it."
Elvis Dumerville, on Ryan Clady
McDaniels needs to leave his stubbornenss for the power running game, and play to the strengths of his players...
He is cruellling Moreno…..and Moreno is cruelling himself as well. His missed blocks and assignments are killing me……and he SHOULD BE better than that.
The lack of creativity in the RZ is killing me, and McDaniels seems to be playing to the weakness of his players rather than their strengths.
This was a disgusting loss…..our defense went to sleep, and WW and The Phonz keep getting played like 2 bit guitars. The only upsdie was the play of Bruton and Carter.
Overall, this is one of the most disgusted I have been as a fan….4 FG’s and only 1 TD and stupid penalties by our offense at key situations……oi veh!
How do you not stop a 4th and 10 for goodness sake……I am just shell shocked by the complete screwing the pooch this day…..PATHETIC!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
COULD NOT AFREE WITH YOU MORE!!!
1st and goal at the 3. We could have put it to bed when we we out played all game long. There is zero creativity and his arrogance is a major road block!!!
Remember
Play action, bootleg, rollout, TE delayed releases, etc?
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
The Patriots never do that stuff. I don’t know why you’d expect McDaniels to suddenly run Shanahan’s system.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Dec 21, 2009 7:13 AM MST up reply actions
This goes down as the most, well almost Humiliating loss I've ever watched the Broncos play!
Shame on you Kyle, shame on you OLine and shame on the defense for letting that crossed eyed weasle score in the end. Shame on you all! Your pathetic!
B Free...we lost in the trenches all day...we were man handled.....the run game will never work, nor the QB when going backwards....
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
The whole LOS
from WR to the Line is really struggling. We got to lay possession physically to our territory, stop gettting pushed around…
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 5:52 PM MST up reply actions
Alls that tells me is they don't really want it.
Looked like Moreno was caught between a rock and a hard spot all day.
I've been a supporter of McDaniels the whole season but
this defeat is on his head. How do you run plays that do not suit your personnel. Why do you get f-ing cute with play calling with Ryan Clady receiving? Especially when you are not suited to it. Why do you try rushing up the middle when clearly, your O-linemen are light and more suited to zone-blocking than power-blocking. G-dammit McD. Try to adapt. You are supposed to head an “amoeba” philosophy. Not playing to your personnel is what was Shanny’s end. AAAhhh. I can’t even talk any more. Just drown my sorrow.
Why McD why?
god created earth in 6 days....on the 7th day, he took a break and created elway
BECAUSE HE IS STUBBORN AND BASES HIS GAME PLANNING ON THEORIES RATHER THAN ACTUALITIES....MATH MAJOR REMEMBER.....
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I thought this was a different team.....clearly not.......WOW WHAT AN EMBARASSMENT!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Interior line sucks!
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
by broncoholic on Dec 20, 2009 5:52 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
In a BIG way...it sucks.
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!! (April 2009 prediction)
Revised to 11-5 due to reality!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
im sick
worst loss that i can remember……run to the right for no gain again?…again?…again?….
luckily im a bronco and a blazer fan......#52 is family
WHY in short yardage when bringing in Larsen would you not use Jordan or Hillis behind instead of seeing Moreno drowned.....I just dont get it......limits Moreno's effectiveness as well...
As soon as we could not put it in from 3 yards I said we would lose…certain points in the gme when you got to get shit done…and once again, we could not.
Even Clady is playing like a Hack!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
McDaniels has proven to be one of the worst play callers this season. This guy still has no idea what he team does well and what they don’t.
This is yet another loss you can hang on awful play calling. When are we going to become at decent offense. It’s week 15 and we look lost in several areas… Still.. And why we keep running those lost looking plays again and again… I don’t know. Arrogance or stupidity.
We need to hire a better play caller for 2010.
This is my favorite website.
I can't agree more.
McD is losing my support as far as him being a playcaller.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
+ 1000......HE has cost the team, or at least played a major role in costing this team wins the last 2 weeks!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Nice run D guys. We knew the Raiders were going to run and they did over and over and over. No Gallery, no passing threat and we still had no answer. This Bronco team does not deserve to attend the playoffs.
This is my favorite website.
by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2009 5:54 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
This Bronco team does not deserve to attend the playoffs.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks that
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
+1
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
John Clayton
is probably not the dean of Fail University, but we can’t ride anyone that thought we would suck….because today proved we can’t get it done. I agree with everyone above….I feel we only deserve the playoffs if we beat the Eagles and chiefs.
Yea lets hire a new coach in 2010
thats a great idea
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 5:55 PM MST up reply actions
No one is saying that. Hes a rookie too......but even my dog learns that doing the same thing over and over again never works...why cant McD?
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
He's too arrogant.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
This loss is NOT on the offense
You cannot give up that many points and rushing yards to the RAIDERS. That’s all there is to it.
formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan
by Douglas A. Lee on Dec 20, 2009 5:59 PM MST up reply actions
Sure, it's not the offense's fault...they only got one touchdown in four attempts in the red zone.
Sounds like it’s their fault to me.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Anyone notice Sheffler and Marshall being on the sidelines in MANY 1st and goal situations? Why?
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
heavier personnel I think
I’ll chart those play personnel specifically, see what I come up with.
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
Yea those are both Really big players
that are perfect for the redzone. I do not get why we did not try to throw the ball in goal line situations
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:11 PM MST up reply actions
The crux of the loss is on Nolan's shoulders
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!! (April 2009 prediction)
Revised to 11-5 due to reality!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
I'm not going to pile this all on the coach, this was a poor team effort
Until we can get the running game together we don’t stand a chance. I don’t think I’ll ever understand the pass to Clady though, and the clock management was terrible.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
why did we not go for it on that last 4th down.....we had nothing to lose
by Whosbob89 on Dec 20, 2009 5:55 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Beats me.
But still, keeping the Raiders out of the end zone is not generally a difficult thing.
formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan
by Douglas A. Lee on Dec 20, 2009 6:00 PM MST up reply actions
absolutely agree
FG gives us exactly what we got – a great chance to lose. Failing to convert 4th down would’ve been the same. True, Raiders could’ve tied it with a FG then.
How did we manage that pass to Stockley to put SD away in the first game?
Game ball to McDouble!
merry christmas denver from the Raider faithful! and remember,suicide rates jump during the holidays
Get outta here.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
yea they jump big time in the bay area where all the raider fans live
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 5:59 PM MST up reply actions
Also, remember your record and where you stand in the division
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
Good luck in the playoffs fader fan
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
John needs to put on a 1 day buffer for all new posters to keep all there trolls out of here
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:00 PM MST reply actions
I am seriously considering it.
It might be worth it, unfortunately.
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by John Bena on Dec 20, 2009 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
I kinda went off in the 4th Q thread but i could not help myself. They are so annoying
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:09 PM MST up reply actions
please do this
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Why is our offense worse than last year?!?!
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
Orton said
that short yardage and red zone came down to execution, and he sounded pissed. Said they are getting all the same looks they practice for all week, and they just aren’t getting it done.
I for one agree with Orton. they have been in winnabel situations, and just ahven’t gotten an 11 man effort in those situations.
In fact, we can call out short yardage and redzone problems all day, but we have struggled in ALL phases of offense with our consistency. These players need to get their heads straight, and start executing.
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 6:01 PM MST reply actions
Most devastating loss I have ever seen as a fan
Sans the Jaguars playoff game in ’97. Wow.
Every single series is the same damn thing. We start under center on first down and hand the ball off every time. That usually goes for zero to two yards max. Then we get in the shotgun and pass on 2nd and 3rd downs. It happens every single time, like clockwork.
Inability to get it done in the red zone is killing this team. Inexcusable not to be able to punch, at the very least, one of those drives into the end zone. And the play to Clady? Wtf was that? You gotta be kiddin’ me.
I am baffled and in shock. Same old story, just a different season. This one hurts. Bad.
Our 3rd down % sucks as we pick up NO yards on any power set we run...2nd 11....pass...normally a screen or short out.....frikin boring , predivtable and clearly not working!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Yep
It was just killing me to see that same pattern over and over and over again all game.
by Business Socks on Dec 20, 2009 6:04 PM MST up reply actions
Have you ever seen any of the super-bowl losses?
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Dec 20, 2009 6:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAH
I remember the day after 55-10, putting my new Broncos jacket on, despite my parents saying maybe I should wear a different one to save some grief. I refused and marched right into the den of Raiders fans I went to school with…
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
I admire your bravery.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Thanks
Although with the benefit of hindsight, I think it was more ‘9 year old boy invincibility’ than any kind of actual bravery.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
but then again
what’s the difference between 9 year old invincibility and actual bravery?
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
I WAS AT THAT GAME AND WILL NEVER FORGET IT!!!
I now live in Seattle and that game of all games against the Jags will haunt me forever.
This is why our fans are so weird - irony
Here is a post by one of our loyal fans – read it, then read his quote at the bottom after his name. This perfectly describes the game day threads and why it is a shame to be involved in them:
I hope this team loses it’s last two games
We should not, and do not deserve to make the playoff after that debacle. The playcalling was ridiculous (a QB sneak on second and five.?)
Just sit the starters, and give up on the season. You cannot lose to the raiders and go to the playoffs. It’s just not right.
It’s looking my preseason prediction of 8-8 is about to come true. So, I guess you could say that they’ve met my expectations, I was just hoping that they would exceed them after the 6-0 start. I do not want to make the playoffs and lose 55-10 like we will, if we make it.
by Jason Witte on Dec 20, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan’s mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
by Something Clever on Dec 20, 2009 6:04 PM MST reply actions
that cooment was the posters only comment in any of the gameday threads
after a loss the last thread breaks down, but throughout the day the threads were great, with some good laughs.
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 6:10 PM MST up reply actions
And to be fair
It should stay there. No pointing fingers outside those threads. It gets too emotional and people are just venting.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
That was me
Yep. I’m pretty pissed off.
I’ll always stick by the Broncos and I’m a little emotional right now, but I still think we’d be better off not making the playoffs. After losing to the raiders, do we really deserve to?
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
No, this team doesn't deserve to go to the play-offs, but the Bengals and the Eagles
lost to the raiders as well, and both those teams are probably going to the play-offs.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
If your emotions over your team losing make you hope your team loses two more times, maybe you need to be less emotional
Something about noses and faces,.. yada yada
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
We just lost to the faders...is it really possible to be hopeful and positive
after a collapse like this?
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Yeah, you're right
I aplogize to everyone for my comments. I had to say something, though, or I was gonna explode. :)
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
by Jason Witte on Dec 20, 2009 6:42 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
it's all good, I just can't stand it when Bronco fans want the Broncos to lose
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
Tough Loss
We still control our destiny. I would have taken that 4 months ago. My disappointment is the rookies, which do not get a good grade at this point in the season, and the season is almost over. Not sure “give them time works” anymore. Terrible loss, but a win next week cures all.
It actually does work still
you should give a rookie class 3 years to grade
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
I agree Phon...I am uninspired by this years and last years rookie class....
This years seemed over awed (bar Bruton and McBath when he was healthy and all last yeats have some major slumps going on!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Really, Moreno leads all rookie backs by a lot,
Ayers brought some good pressure today and in other games, Clady has been tremendous despite everybody piling on him for no longer being perfect. Quinn, Brandstater, Olsen, and McKinley haven’t cracked the starting lineup, but there really are some great players ahead of them. Royal may be slumping, but he showed a lot of talent last year, and he still has a ton of potential.
But I guess we did cut that lineman before the season started.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
DESTINY!!!
I think we controlled our own destiny all the way up to the final weekend last season. We may not even get that opportunity this season, pretty ironic with the start of the season, huh??
Yes
but also pretty amazing given the offseason
by phondonkey on Dec 20, 2009 8:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Tony Carter was fantastic today
I was impressed.
by Business Socks on Dec 20, 2009 6:07 PM MST up reply actions
Here's everything that is wrong with our team:
1) Offensive play-calling.
2) Interior o-line.
3) Short yardage situations on offense.
4) Third down situations.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
I wasn't ranking them.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
You mean
INFERIOR O line.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
INFERIOR!!!
Sometimes I wasn’t even sure if we had an offensive lineman on the field! They sucked today.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Idk how many people are with me,
but i still support Moreno. I’m not going to say that he’s bad when our line got raped.
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
I support Moreno. He's had some pretty good games this year.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
I'm with you.
But still, you’d love to see some more explosive plays and him creating some things on his own and I haven’t see a ton of that this year. I wasn’t worried after the Giants game, but I’m becoming at least a little pessimistic about him. Far from calling him a “bust” though. That would be foolish at this point.
by Business Socks on Dec 20, 2009 6:11 PM MST up reply actions
I support him
But I still feel he is a bit overrated. He’s looked like an average NFL running back to me. I don’t recall seeing anything out of him I would call special, yet.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
That's the point I was trying to make
And that’s what has me a little worried. With Portis, you saw the special plays right away. Knowshon, not so much….
by Business Socks on Dec 20, 2009 6:12 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
We also had a better
oline then and we were running zone blocking all the time which is not the case now
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:14 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
But the special ones can make someone miss occasionally. Getting a little tired of watching him just stop when a defender is in his face.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
He is in the top ten in the league for making tacklers miss...
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 6:17 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I've watched every game
And I’m highly skeptical of that stat. The numbers are what they are, but I don’t see where they get those numbers. I maintain he looks average to me.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
Well
for what it is worth he probably leads the league in number of times hit behind the line as well. Maybe there is some kind of tell that the Broncos keep showing or something, because our runs are getting sniffed out consistently.
Or maybe the blocking has just been consistently poor, which is a problem that a lot of bad teams struggle with… If you look at our roster depth on the interior lines, it is the shakiest part fo the team. We don’t even have the luxury of trying something different, because we have zero depth there. I think it is a case of beggars can’t be choosers.
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 6:24 PM MST up reply actions
thats funny cause last time I checked
he almost always gets positive yardage and he also never goes backwards.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:19 PM MST up reply actions
Never goes backwards?
Indy game he was stopping and jumping back on just about every other play. I’m not saying I hate the guy, I just think he’s overrated for where he’s at now.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
He is not overrated
He is running behind a Horrible oline. Adrian Peterson would look bad running behind this line. He is also a rookie which some people seem to forget. I do not care if he has played almost a full season. He is a rookie until the 09 season is over. Some people are way to hard on rooks. Did you watch this kid play in the SEC? Did you watch the giant game? When the oline actually gets push off the ball this kid would run wild.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
I don't agree.
When the line gets a push, Buck has over 100 on 13 carries. When the line gets a push, Moreno gets positive yards, as any average NFL back would. He has yet to break one this year. He has been oh so close several times, but he has not done it yet. I agree that a bad line kills a RBs chances at dominating, but Barry Sanders put up huge numbers behind weak O-lines. He was a special back.
And I don’t care that he’s a rookie. Since when does that mean he should not be expected to perform? He is a starting running back on an NFL team. Time to produce. I doubt he would want to use being a rookie as an excuse. And if he does, maybe he should not have held out.
I don’t mean to be bitchy, but that reminds me of Cutler getting excuses for “really” being a rookie into his second and third seasons.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
yoiks
I’ll save you the wait: Moreno will never be Barry Sanders.
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 6:32 PM MST up reply actions
Right, I realize that.
But I hold out hope that he will be a special back, in some way, someday. Any back can have big games if his line is playing great. The great ones make something out of nothing from time to time. Isn’t that the difference?
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
making something out of nothing
comes in a lot of different shapes and sizes. Moreno’s strength is elusiveness, but not speed or power. he is above average speed and power, but Buck is faster and other guys are more powerful. If we can start to get Moreno pst the line of scrimmage, he will make LBs pay who try to come up and pop him.
In college he led the SEC in “MTs” which are tackle statistics for when it takes more than one tackler to bring a guy down. His ability will always be that he has more “will” than the other guy. I guarantee you that he is one of the first guys in that lockerroom to tell the oline that he believes they can get it done.
On the flipside, he needs to block better too. We are just getting outphysicalled, and it has become embarassing…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 20, 2009 6:42 PM MST up reply actions
Ten why is McDaniels using an ELUSIVE back in power back formations? That has been my contention all along...thats he is being miscast and misused!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I agree with a lot of it.
But he has gotten to the LBs several times, only to get tripped up or caught from behind soon after reaching the second level. Hopefully it’s still playing catch up from the holdout, if that’s realistic.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
Barry Sanders also had a Ton of runs
for negative yards. If he would have had a decent Oline he would have rushed for 2000 plus yards every year. Barry Sanders is a horrible example
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions
and not to nitpick
But the SEC is NOT the NFL. That’s the point. Being great in the SEC doesn’t translate into being a great NFL back. Still gotta prove it against the best players in the world.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
the SEC is the closest thing to the NFL that you get at the College level and its not even close
and trying to compare a rookie runningback to a HOF runningback is just ignorant. When he has had room to run he have looked great. He made a ton of people miss in the game against the Giants. When the oline struggles he looks bad. It will happen to every RB. Buck would have not made a difference the way the oline played today. Buck is also a change of pace back and not a carry the load type like Moreno. Moreno wears the defense down and then Buck comes in a breaks a long one. We have also played some of the best run defenses in the league this year and he is still close to 1000 yards running behind this patchwork oline. Fix the oline and watch him run wild
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
I disagree that Moreno is an every down back, He is too small, wears down easy and does not wear down defenses. He is a back that needs to be used with a complimentary power back IMO.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
if
he can learn to run both with confidence and without turning the ball over…he seems to be able only to do one at a time
Amen,
Weigman regressed from last year, Hochstein gets blown up less than Hamilton, but he’s still not starter material, and Polumbus misses as many blocks as he makes, our line is in real trouble.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Dec 20, 2009 6:43 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel bad for him
He is getting met in the backfield and people are blaming him. It is not his fault. If your RB get met before he can even get to the line of scrimmage you will fail every time
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:13 PM MST up reply actions
It's the o-line's fault not Moreno's.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
We need
to get bigger in the interior. We need a new LG and Center in next years draft
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 6:15 PM MST up reply actions
In truth that is what is needed
for the McX plan to work. At Least one more draft. They have made a tremendous impact with what they’ve done with the personnel changeover. We are all just spoiled with that 6-0 start, and the thought that we should have achieved more this year at this point.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
This sounds a bit too much like Bears' Fans
“It’s not Cutler, it’s the O-Line”….but it still may be true.
This is very true for the most part
But there are those times where he has a lane or has the ability to do something special with the ball in his hands and he has failed to do so. Maybe I am overreacting to those potential opportunities, though. I’d have to go back and look at ’em to see.
by Business Socks on Dec 20, 2009 6:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Today was the first time this season I missed Mike Shanahan's Offense...
The Dink and Dunk offense is getting old…
I need a radio show sooooo bad. I feel terrible right now.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Agreed.
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno=ROY
all i got to say is...
(&%&^%$#@#$_(&&^%$$#^%$R&&*^%%%^#@$#%^%%^R%&R%&^*I!!
by wisco on Dec 20, 2009 6:20 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
I feel your pain, man.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
I hope so.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Every game is approached diffrently each week with a new game plan
The Broncos layed an egg today In a division game against a hated rival . We all knew that this game could
turn out like this . But we still have chances left and everyone in here now is jumping ! COMMON MAN !
WE will come out swinging against the eagles we have
no choice ! Look . I am mad to but some of this negetivity is sickning. The broncos still can win the next 2 games
Please pull yourselvs together !
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 20, 2009 6:27 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Give me 24 hours.
I’ll get over it, and be cheering them on all the harder next week. I’m pretty saddened, po’d right now. :)
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
Yeah, I just need some time to vent and throw stuff at my TV.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Thats perfectly OK man we can win the next 2 games trust me we bring the A game to philly we win
by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 20, 2009 6:32 PM MST up reply actions
broncosfaninphilly...
You just gave me some hope with your comments. Thank you! :)
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
+1 philly!
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
Love the attitude and culture McDaniels has brought to Denver…but c’mon, time to get your head out of your ass and use Peyton Hillis in some short yardage situations, every #$@%ing person who has any knowledge of football knows this…McD got to see his power up close in closing out the KC game, give him the rock already!!!
+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Hillis is as good as gone.
Writing is on the wall. If he can’t get ahead of Lamont Jordan on the depth chart, he’s done in Denver. Maybe he’ll end up on Shanny’s new team next year.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
EFFFIN AAAAA MY BROTHER!!!!
We all saw what the kid could do last year. The man needs to swallow some pride!!!
And this loss is on the O IMO since the D started this game with a 3 n out followed by a pick setting the table for the Offense to be up on OAK at least 10-0 which could have put the ball in Frye’s hands early and take Bush/McFadden out of the game…instead O cant put OAK away early and allowed a bad team and a decent D of OAK to gain confidence as the game went along…
Inside 10 yd line touches- Clady: 1
Hillis: 0 WTF???
EXACTLY.
Clady=1, Hillis=0, Hilarious. Disappointing and confounding, but hilarious.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on Dec 20, 2009 7:38 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Horrible feeling
That was as painful a game to lose as any…It was raider week, what more do they need..It doesnt matter abotu records..We were physically dominated..We are capable of punishing people, today jsut wasnt our day..
They need to find a way to get Royal in the game..Same problem as last year always looking for Marshall…Better sign him back up soon, if not who is orton gonna throw too..This offense is way to predictable, Oakland and Washington are the same exact teams..Physical run it down your throat and that is exactly why we lost..We have to find the Physical side before I walk into Lincoln financial stadium, i have already done a couple walk of shames this year, no more makeus proud..GO BRONCOS
by rockymtnthunder on Dec 20, 2009 6:38 PM MST reply actions
I think Moreno will end up being a very good short yardage back on top of the caliber back he is already in the future…but right now in Short Yardage Situations dude is abandoning the designed play to early and looking to shift instead of being a bit more patient and letting holes develop, there werent many holes off tackle today, but there were more than a few times where Moreno was too quick to panic and bounce outside…way too many failures this season on 3rd and 4th and 1s, especially with the talent this O has, once again I plea put that cornfed mother@#$%er Hillis in the ballgame!!!
He needs to learn...
that a “hole” in college is a lot different than a ‘hole’ in the NFL. He’s not trusting his blockers, and a 1/2 second hesitation is all it takes.
-TSG
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by John Bena on Dec 20, 2009 6:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Kicking Game
At what point do we learn that kicking FG’s in the NFL instead of punching in TD’s = broken-hearted losses. We’ve gotten by a couple of times (Cincy & Dallas come to mind) but we can’t let this year’s 8-5 (8-6 now) turn into last year’s 8-8 !!!
by displaced-to-LongIsland on Dec 20, 2009 6:46 PM MST reply actions
Buckhalter being out did hurt immensely, but with him out the secondary carries need to go to Hillis and not Lamont Jordan…plus he is more of a receiving threat than Jordan so more of the Buckhalter screens etc. could have been ran to Hillis, maybe Hillis hooked up with McD’s sister when he was in Arkansas or something…gotta be a reason his ass is always on the sidelines
by OMGJohnElway on Dec 20, 2009 6:46 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHHA
Maybe McD is afraid of the reaction if Hillis does too well…y’know, with the ladies swooning over Hillis instead of McD….
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
I really did expect to see a LITTLE Hillis.
I wish I knew what was up with the decision to keep him on the sideline. He can’t be the feature back, but he could sure as hell take some heat off of Moreno, and he’s very versatile. The only reason he might not be in is because he’s not the greatest blocker. Well, he can join the club of bad blockers, then , because the Oline performance today was dismal.
I’d love to see Hillis in the game in that situation, but McD thinks Moreno alone gives us the best chance to win.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I just don’t see what LaMont brings to the table. He must have incriminating photos of McD from their New England days or somehing
by displaced-to-LongIsland on Dec 20, 2009 7:02 PM MST reply actions
..tsk, tsk, tsk
Playing professional football is tough……playing it poorly makes it tougher. At this point in this season, I’m thinking this team does not deserve to be in the playoffs.Certainly at least, we should get out of the way of another team that is more deserving. I beleive we could be good at that….
I’m begining to get the feeling we’ve another ‘Shanny’…and deserve another meltdown…JMO The coach may not play…he has a bigger responsibilty…‘the buck stops with him.’…
It's done...
…nothing any of us say or do will make the pain go away. The only solace we can take is that next Sunday our team will suit up in hostile territory with a chance to control its own destiny.
I for one was very disappointed in the effort across the board, from top to bottom. The players looked like they thought they could just show up and win, and the end result was justified by a lack of focus.
This organization is in the first year of an already major overhaul. Personnel, schemes, everything is new this year. It takes time and I for one will let the pain stick for a few days and then move on. I have been through worse and I know that I will see better from this team in the coming years.
It sucks, I hate losing to inferior opponents, but this is the NFL. Break it down, correct the mistakes and move on.
You are a voice of reason.
I hate this loss, but I’ll move on. We still have hope, but I hope we get a scheme to fit our playmakers, some playmakers to fit our scheme, or some better play calling to fit our playmakers and scheme. Whatever works is good with me.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Excellent Post
We need to improve on offense, on defense and special teams. Its not a surprise, it is just clearer tonight than before this game. We will struggle against the Eagles unless we bring our A+ game.
We also may not make the playoffs and maybe we do not deserve too. Either way, there a lot questions that we can not answer and hopefully McDaniels and staff can.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 20, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions
Some times you have to play to win...
…rather than to avoid losing. Which is to say, when you play as conservatively as they played the last few possessions on offense, you probably don’t deserve to win. I’m glad to have him, but this one is on McD, IMO.
Gotta fix that interior and get a better back up tackle…Iupati! Iupati! Iupati!
The selfish, they're all standing in line
Faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
Me, I figure as each breath goes by
I only own my mind-- Pearl Jam, "I am Mine"
by PredominantlyOrange on Dec 20, 2009 7:20 PM MST reply actions
+1 clutch14
IMHO it all comes down to run the ball and stop the run. If you don’t accomplish one much less neither, there’s not much of a chnace of winning. In other words win or lose in the trenches.
As upsetting as that loss was to say the Broncos don’t deserve to be in the playoffs because we lost to the Raiders, who’s going to replace the Eagles and Bengals? Can’t be the Steelers? No team should be overlooked!
The QB position is set.
I am so effing angry right now I can't see straight. I just saw the game on DVR
And I am PISSED. I must vent, even though this stuff has already been said, I’m sure. WHY is our Defense giving up ridiculous yardage?!?!?!?!?!?4th and 10??!?!?! Penalties at the WORST possible times. Not that we should ever have been in this situation, but on that last play, how can the raiders get away with holding the player down so he can’t get the ball to the ref so we even have a chance of spiking it? THis is just my ignorance. Someone please explain that to me. THe play was over, yet that player was held down, and I would have thought that was a delay of game by that defender.
I must eat crow served up by McGeorge and a few others here; I hate the playcalling. Go ahead and grade the guy an F if you want. Is it too much to ask to have a LITTLE Jeremy Bates calling back? a deep ball every once in a while? Why didn’t we see completions like that last play earlier in the game? I know we have some key injuries on the Oline, but they HAVE to protect better, and they HAVE to open running lanes. That being said, the raiders are the fattest team I’ve ever seen. They block by standing there and creating a fat wall our guys have to go around. I want to blame the D for all the runs they allowed, but it’s hard to complain when all the offense would have had to do was SCORE in the MFing redzone once in a while for us to blow the raiders out today. Al those points left on the field. Not going for it on 4th down and goal? We needed that TD, and it’s no guarantee I know, but these situations look like we are playing not to lose, instead of playing to WIN, as John is famous for saying. What happened to a tight-end running into the endzone on a slant? THere are more ways to get a TD than run straight forward or pass into the endzone into coverage, or, Orton’s favorite, throw WAY too high to the back of the end zone. He avoids INTs, but he avoids points, too.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Just close your eyes and remember where you were when
Earnest Byner fumbled. I was watching with my dad and remember vividly the old man and myself jumping up and down, hugging and yelling at the top of our lungs for a good 3-4 minutes. My mom thought we had literally lost our minds.
Brings a smile to my face just thinking about it.
You have a healthy coping mechanism.
Thanks for sharing.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Hey. On the bright side of things...
We actually wind up with a higher pick in next years draft then the raiders. Yay.
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
We *may* actually... is what I meant.
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
I'm not giving up.
We match up well against the Eagles, and we are going to crush the the Chiefs. We have lots of issues, but the Raiders needed serious help from the refs to win today. That was one of the worst officiated games I have seen in a long long time. Go Broncos!
by OrangeandBlue27 on Dec 20, 2009 7:37 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I think we'll play the eagles well.
I’m afraid of a 2006 San Francisco-like crumble in the last game against KC. I’m afraid we’ll overlook them, and that they learned from their last loss to us.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on Dec 20, 2009 7:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
After today's fiasco
I am not willing to say “we are going to crush the Chiefs.” We should, but by no means does that mean we will.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
Is there gonna be radio tonight?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
This sucks. This really sucks
However after the score was 13-6, I just has a weird feeling we weren’t going to win the game. For the second year in a row the hand us a bad loss at home. I hope we win the next two games or we will probably miss the playoffs after a 6-0 start.
Those two redzone FGs were the dagger today.
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at least it wasn't 31-10.
a blowout at home never feels good.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
A loss to the Raiders regardless of the score sucks.
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by weazel on Dec 20, 2009 8:14 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Just a bad game.....
I wasn’t able to watch the game as I’m in Seattle, and was stuck watching Seattle/Tampa game (That was really a lot of fun by the way). The second worst part of this loss, is that it was to the Raiders. The absolute worst part of this is that it was won by the overpaid wanna be gansta Russell.
9-7 would be outside.
Let’s face it. Baltimore and Pittsburgh know what it takes to win in December. 9-7 will not be enough because of tie-breakers.
Having said that. I want to see this team earn a chance of playing Kansas City to make the playoffs. Does anybody here doubt B Dawk???. Didn’t think so. He will lead this team out of Philly w/ a win.
This time a year..you got to believe. Hope can only get you so far. (i.e. last year)
by CastorTroy on Dec 20, 2009 8:34 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Raiders fans....
Are just teeing off on message boards right now…
Let them have their fun
The Raiders are still a mess. They won, they deserved it, but they are still staring at a future of insignificance!
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This team is going in the right direction....
Today sucked. Losing to the Raiders always sucks, and losing to Jamarcus Russell makes it worse.
But I feel good about this team. I was skeptical when Shanahan was let go and Bowlen hired the kid. I became even more skeptical when McD traded Cutler, and the media fallout ensued. Marshall’s meltdown happened this summer, and I began to wonder if Denver would get four wins this year.
You guys need to give McDaniels a chance. This team has a bright future….
Really? What direction is that?
As of now, McD is heading down the same road as Shanny went
Starting start w/ a whopping thud at the finish
I like McD… but he’s not giving me much to root for.
Raiders > Broncos as of today and until next year
Agreed
This is a process. Understood. But I don’t want to believe 6-0 was fools gold. No backing in chance this year. We have to earn it. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.
by CastorTroy on Dec 20, 2009 9:26 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I'm a frustrated fan as well...
And you’re right, it’s a process. I don’t think 6-0 was fool’s gold, I really don’t. And backing into the playoffs sucks. They have to win the next two games….I think they will…
I know a lot of people are blaming McD but
people has to remember this is his 1st year and he had to retool a team that shanny left. Give him a couple of drafts and we will see how good of a coach he is. He needs to get his type of players in there before we can completely judge him. It is almost like a culture thing with the Broncos. Start fast and then fall short. McD needs to change that but in order to do that he needs to get his players in there
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2009 9:48 PM MST reply actions
McD has done great.
A chance at 10-6 and the playoffs is all I could have hoped for. Denver fans need to put this in that light.
I know it Blows losing to the Raiders at home. Believe me. I had Raider fans in my ear all the way out to my car after the game. But I also think if the Raiders can beat Philly..so can we.
by CastorTroy on Dec 20, 2009 9:57 PM MST via mobile reply actions
What free agent centers and guards are going to be available this offseason? Any good ones to look forward to this draft?
Because until we solve those problems, no system is going to work.
Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal.
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