MHR Chalk Talk - The Broncos at the Chiefs in '09
After getting off to a great 6-0 start, the Broncos lost their mojo and dropped 4 games, including a costly game to rival San Diego. On Thanksgiving night, the Broncos did exactly what they needed to do; not only to beat the New York Giants, but to set the tone for how to play the season out.
I'd like to think the Broncos took a page from MHR Chalk Talk last week, and made a decision to play more physical ball while letting the precision wait a little longer. I'm certain that Coach McDaniels has better things to do than to listen to advice from folks outside of his coaching circle, but he did place an emphaisis on more physical ball for the Giants game. It not only worked, but it worked out better than our game plans for the first 6 victories. Why? Because we played a dominating style of football instead of a finesse style, and it worked to a tee.
There's nothing wrong with finesse. But a team needs time to learn a new system before it can take the step to execute more complex plays. Right now, Denver needs to execute the basics better than the bad guys, and punch other teams in the gut. That is just what Denver did, and what they need to do moving forward.
Let's look at the keys to the game for last week.
First, I wrote that the OL needed to protect Kyle Orton. The Giants have always been a team that want to shut down the passing game with pressure from the front more than relying on elite coverage from defensive backs. Not only did the OL did a good job of keeping Orton clean, they opened up running lanes for the Denver offense.
The second key for Denver was to run the ball more, and to do so effectively. A good running game takes pressure of the QB, controls the clock, and cuts down on turnovers. It is the prime key for Denver for the rest of the season. When Denver runs the ball well, they win games. When opponents can make Denver one dimensional, Denver will struggle. Denver did this.
Last, Denver needed a mistake free game. Denver had to settle for two FGs instead of TDs on their first two drives because of penalties, and this led to a now infamous, profanity laden conference on the sidelines. But two things happened at that point. First, Denver got the focus they needed. Second, Denver was playing "domineering" football to such an extent that they left 8 points on the field in those two drives and it didn't matter. Domineering football is just what this team needs.
For the Giants, all they really had to do to win this game was to win in the trenches. Denver's offensive and defensive lines pushed the Giants all over the field. Denver took that key away right away.
Next, the Giants needed to keep Denver from the ealry lead. But from the start of the game, it was clear that Denver wasn't going to settle for a war of field position and winning a close game. Denver took the early lead.
Finally, I wrote that the Giants needed to run the ball on Denver for match-up reasons. Denver's run defense was spectacular. Denver made it look as if the Giants could do nothing right.
My point is that Denver didn't win this game with precision execution of flashy sreen plays, nor with a great amount of trickery on the defense. Denver out executed opponents by being more physical. We didn't play "keep the game close" careful football, we played to dominate, intimidate, and crush. Our guys had it in them, and they proved it. Both our players and our head coach are emotional beings, and sometimes it is ok to play a little more with emotional intensity than cold Xs and Os.
The Chiefs
Now what about the Chiefs? This is a game Denver should dominate. The Chiefs are having a rough season so far in almost any measurement. First, the bad news for the Chiefs.
The Chiefs are 26th in scoring, 30th in yards, 22nd in rushing, and 26th in passing. The number one reason (in my opinion) for the poor offensive perfomance of this team is the offensive line. Gone are the stars of yesteryear's Chiefs OL. The OL can't protect QB Matt Cassel, and they allow him to be sacked on a regular basis. in fact, they botched two snaps to the QB in their last game, missing the QB in the shotgun formation (where the QB is further back from the line).
On defense, things aren't any better. KC is 28th in points allowed, 30th in yards allowed, 27th in stopping the run, and 30th in stopping the pass.
In other words, KC is in the bottom 10 teams in every vital stat, and in the bottom seven teams in 7 out of those 8 stats. Overall, the Chiefs are ranked 26th in the League based on wins and tie-break.
Do the Chiefs have any good news going into this game? They do, and if you don't believe me, you can drop the ball like the Pittsburgh Steelers did in their loss to the Chiefs two games ago.
First, the Chiefs have a terrific RB in Jamaal Charles. He has shown unreal speed, and is a definate threat when he gets to the edges. Denver could challenge the edges with a traditional 3-4 defense, but in the 5-2 look the OLB/DEs are more likely to be plugging gaps than containing the outside. Expect Denver to respect Jammal by either zoning an OLB wide or placing a LB in man coverage. Both safeties will be watching for wide runs as well.
Jamaal is averaging over 5 yards a carry (as he did last year), and now that he is the starter (with Larry Johnson booted from the team), the Chief's may start buidling an offense around him down the road. Did I mention that Jamaal also has great hands and can catch what is thrown his way? Jamaal 's weakspot (according to many) is that he may be fumble prone. I don't really know if this is fair. At 22 years of age, Jamaal has fumbled the ball twice this year (at key moments), but has also touched the ball 78 times rushing and 26 times receiving. He is only in his second year too. I don't think protecting the ball is as bad as the media has made the issue out to be.
The other bright spot for the offense is Chris Chambers at WR. Cassel may not get protection from his line, and his weapons may not have a lot of depth, but Chris Chambers is his number one target and Chambers seems to have a good chemistry with the QB. These are the two players I respect the most on the Chiefs offense, and I fully expect that Denver will work on countering these two.
And then there is the "curse". Denver can't seem to win in KC in December. I'm not a superstitous guy, but the curse shouldn't be a factor for some very logical reasons. First, the two teams aren't the same teams they were in past years. In fact, not even last year. Both teams feature new head coaches, new offensive and defensive coordinators, new managers, and new QBs. In fact, looking over the Chiefs roster, I was surprised by how many names were different from just last year.
If Denver is going to lose this game, it will be because they take it for granted. KC is fully capable of keeping a game close, then gong for the win at the end. Denver needs to avoid falling into the trap that Pittsburgh did, and needs to dominate from the start.
Keys to the Game
Denver
- Denver needs to guard against Jamaal Charles. Yes, he can average over 5 yards a carry. Yes, he can catch out of the backfield. And yes, he is a return threat in special teams. He can also go down field for deeps passes (he beat Cromartie for a deep pass last week). But he is light at 5-11, 199 LBs. With the other RBs on the team limited or out of practice, Jamaal may take a lot of hits. Denver needs to contain Jamaal, and they need to hit him any chance that they get.
- Another way to deal with Jamaal is to get an early lead and force the Chiefs to throw. I'll take Champ Bailey and Andre' Goodman over Chris Chambers anyday.
- Run the ball. This takes the Chiefs crowd out of the game and keeps Jamaal Charles off the field. The Chiefs don't have a fast LB corps, so sprinkling in some screens and shovel passes to the edges may spread the defense wide to allow later shots at the interior.
Kansas City
- Do whatever it takes to protect your QB. Short, quick passes would be good (and would negate the big plays that Denver's secondary can make). Running the ball with Jammal would be good too. The depth at WR can't match the Denver depth at CB, so keep formations down to 1 or 2 receivers and add protection with TEs and a FB.
- While Jamaal needs to be a factor, try rotating the runs. Clearly, I think this kid is the weapon that KC needs, but if he is overused, he's going to get hurt. If he is kept fresh, he may get enough big plays to keep the game close.
- Come into the game fired up, and fire up the fans. I read an article this week (at NFL.com) that mentioned that KC hasn't been playing with a lot of fire. This happened to Denver, and Brian Dawkins hosted a players-only meeting to straighten things out. It worked. But the fans need to be fired up too. Denver makes mistakes and gets penalties, and isn't fully on the same page on offense at times. Loud crowd noise at the right moment should help the KC defense. Players ought to encourage the fans to get loud, and should do a little chest thumping when a play goes well for KC. Arrowhead hasn't been kind to Denver, and the fans in KC should keep it that way.
Conclusion
Before the season, I wrote that I expected the Raiders to stay in the basement, the Chiefs and Brancos to improve slightly, and the Chargers to lose a little luster. The Raiders are the same team that they have been for years, unable to approach even .500, while the Chargers remain contenders, but don't stand out in the Conference.
However, while the Broncos have improved from last year, the Chiefs are having a hard time keeping up. In fact, they are only one spot ahead of the Raiders in the League rankings. Denver had at least as many changes as the Chiefs did, so what is the problem?
I agree with our friends at Arrowhead Pride. Too many good players are gone (including a key defensive lineman, two great offensive linemen, and what should be a future HOF TE), and too few good players have stepped in. Age remains an issue as well. The team needs an injection of youth, and a long term, off-season game plan to start building up. The team needs a combination of good FA moves or trades (getting Chambers from SD was a good move in my opinion), as well as using their position in the draft to get more players that can contribute over time.
I mean no disrespect to the Chiefs fans when I write that I have a hard time seeing the Broncos dropping this game. However, Denver seems to get surprised year after year in KC, so KC has some hope.
My hope is that Denver doesn't just win this game, but makes another statement like they did last week against the Giants. Denver must win the "easy" games against KC and Oak (2 against KC), and a win against PHI would go a long ways. INDY still looks like a bridge too far. We also need to pull for all of SD's opponents from here on out.
A loss on Sunday would put a serious crimp in the Broncos playoff hopes (Denver is top wildcard at this point). A win keeps a division playoff spot in sight. Every game from here on out is a big game. I think Denver can measure up.
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(By the way, for those attending the game: There used to be a great place to eat called Union Station in KC. It was the sight of a major gangland massacre back in days of Machine Gun Kelly, Frank Nitti and Baby Face Nelson. If the place is still there, they used to have a seafood buffet that included everything from whole lobster to smoked eel, oysters, and lox. Not far away was a Japanese place called The Hibachi. If they are still there, you can't go wrong with either one. Not far from the stadium, in Independence, is a place called Stephenson's. Presidents have eaten there with good reason, and it is worth a visit as well. You used to get free samples of apple cider there, and the food is awesome. Perhaps a KC fan can chime in to tell us if those places are still around).
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This team can't afford to lose to another Redskin type of team.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
I'm hoping
that the loss to the Redskins get the “lose a game we should win” out of our system for the season. I think after our 4-game skid we don’t take any other teams for granted…I hope anyway. Being in the playoff hunt should help keep us focused.
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Dec 4, 2009 12:52 PM MST up reply actions
You make a good point Kitten.
I think that a few things have washed together to go our way. I think the win over the GIants was emotional enough and strong enough that the team has proven they have a new focus. I think the players’ meeting and the losses (happening when they did) made an impression. Against the Chiefs and Raiders, we need to prove that we will win the games we are supposed to. Against the Eagles, we need to prove we can beat decent teams. Against the Colts, we need to show how much of a playoff type team we are.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions
We match up well with the Colts...
I think we finish with the same record as SD.
2 comments on the food in KC. Stephenson’s is absolutely awesome! I don’t know if it’s still there, last time I ate there was in high scholl in 82 LOL…
The Plaza is an absolutely excellent place to go during the holiday season, and not too far from the stadium….and Gates BBQ near there doesn’t hurt either :P
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!! (April 2009 prediction)
Revised to 11-5 due to reality!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
More to the point
they can’t afford to lose Kyle Orton during a game against a Redskin or Chief-type team. ;-) (Which is basically how they lost to DC imho.) But yeah these are the games a team has to win and can’t look past, to make the playoffs.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Another Great post
HT! Appreciate the hard work and the insight…..GO Broncos!
Thanks Northerner!
I hope I’m right that we win it!
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions
BTW.....
Derrick Thomas’ jersey number (58) will be retired this Sunday. Chiefs fans and players are fired up to show respect for the late great line backer. Denver better be ready for this game. The Chiefs aren’t going to roll over and die….
November 22nd 2009: Chiefs win in OT vs the Steelers 27-24. This could be the turning point for the Chiefs to get back to being respected.
by Red N Gold Beast on Dec 4, 2009 1:10 PM MST reply actions
The Chiefs aren’t going to roll over and die…
Of course they won’t. They are still a proud team, regardless of their record. Pittsburgh is no slouch.
Thanks Steve. My education grows with each lesson you give.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
KC never rolls over at home against Denver.
They may not be a great team this year, but they should be respected.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions
That's a good point.
Fans should always be fired up when there’s a tribute to a former, great player. Thomas and the fans should inspire the team to play well.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 1:40 PM MST up reply actions
Has there been a modern era player who meant more to KC
than Derrick Thomas? If I had to choose, it would be hard to even take Tony G or W Shields over DT.
I never liked facing him, but man I loved that guy as a player. He brought an intensity that just transcended. If I were a KC fan this weekend, I would be jacked!
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 4, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions
I remember the day well...
Sitting with friends and seeing that in the news. Even as a Broncos fan, it choked me up.
What a crappy thing to happen.
But! This matchup is NEVER easy and we better be prepared for a slugfest!
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!! (April 2009 prediction)
Revised to 11-5 due to reality!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
Always enjoy your hard work and fairness in your approach to each game.
That said, a question?
A lot of teams are going to the 3 – 4 from the 4 – 3 on Defense. I realize their
are pro’s / con’s for both, but it appears that some teams are going against
their personnel and or coaching expertise. SD & KC as examples.
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
I just read over my comment, its not clear to me lol
So… What I mean is, Dorsy ( and others ) if I’m not mistaken is better suited to a 4/3,
yet he was drafted by KC to fit in a 3/4?
Reviera ( sp ) came from Chi town, where he coached a 4/3, was brought to SD to
run a 3/4.
Is it the trend of the NFL, or is the 3/4 that much more superior.
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Dec 4, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions
Trend.
The NFL swings between the 3-4 and the 4-3. Both have advantages and disadvantages.
What IS real interesting is that more and more teams are making changes regardless of current personnel. I think this is because some coaches are less concerned with easing teams into new systems and trying to do more with less time. With teams that have had bad years (like KC and DEN), new coaches may feel pressured to win now, and try to teach new systems by immersion.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 1:54 PM MST up reply actions
KC appears to be committed to a 3-4
or as we know it, 5-2, and they are busily converting Tamba Hall and Glenn Dorsey, who are kind of light for defensive ends, to the outside. This is according to an interview I heard with Bronco great (former Indian) Neal Smith this afternoon on Alfred Williams’ show.
By the way Smith mentioned that ex Chiefs are not permitted to attend practices, and have to better have a ticket to get in this Sunday or they will get turned away. So much for Derrick Thomas and any Chiefs tradition – its’ a media event for the fans. The new regime has alienated, and has no connection with, the Chiefs.
By the way Teach, remember the Broncos are 1-0 in January in Arrowhead, in the biggest game played in there in many, many years.
Lastly, you mentioned that the Broncos killed the Giants with their run game. Apparently, according to reports, Umekoya was so exposed that the Gints will be benching him on first down and obvious run downs. Wow!
"Kool-Aid Kool Aid, Tastes Great, We Want Kool Aid, Can't Wait"
by littletinybroncos on Dec 4, 2009 6:43 PM MST up reply actions
How about a 6 game winning streak, a four game losing streak and a 6 game winning streak?
Symmetry.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
To go along with the theme
Yeah, Baby, Yeah!
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
That "Yeah baby yeah" was a tip of the hat to Austin Powers...
You’ll note I also used the word “mojo”.
lol
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions
Groovy
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Dec 4, 2009 2:15 PM MST up reply actions
lol - well played, KK. :-)
"Take what you can. Give nothing back!"
by Colorado_Kitten on Dec 4, 2009 2:59 PM MST up reply actions
My thinking too
The Colts are just waiting for a team to play a full 60 minutes to hand them their first loss.
Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009
Amen. I predict a win in Indy.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Dec 4, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions
love your quote
what an idiot Clayton
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Dec 5, 2009 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
Screw Symmetry.
I want a 9 game winning streak, thank you.
"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton
by odarol on Dec 4, 2009 3:04 PM MST up reply actions 8 recs
Word. +1
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Dec 4, 2009 3:40 PM MST up reply actions
lol!
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"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 4, 2009 4:49 PM MST up reply actions
c'mon baby
I can’t speak to whether the places you mentioned are still open, but if you’re going to gameday in KC, there’s really only 1 option: BBQ! And a short drive from Arrowhead is Gates BBQ, home to some of the greatest food in the world. Beef on Bun always is delicious. Or grab a slab of ribs. Maybe don’t wear donkey jerseys there tho, unless you don’t mind some friendly ribbing, no pun intended.
Should be a good game. I hope the Chiefs keep it close, but (and I never thought I’d say this) I’d much rather see the Donkeys win the division than a team led by Philip Rivers, undoubtedly the most obnoxious man in our division.
Great, now Kansas City has TWO delusional GM's who think that contending in 2010 is still a possibility. Note to an NFL GM: if you win 2 games one year, dont expect signing four players whose ages sum to 141 and expect to make the playoffs the next year. Super reach for Tyson Jackson, huge contract to a QB who's still very much a question mark, questionable FA signing, why have we already given Pioli the benefit of the doubt? On the other hand, I have nothin to say about Dayton Moore, he's dead to me.
Good call!
KC has a lot of great BBQ places.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 1:56 PM MST up reply actions
Eaten there,
really great BBQ, I highly recommend it.
"A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do" Walter Gagenot
"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."
Let's see if the Chiefs like chewing on a Wild Stallion this Sunday.
They may just get bucked off…heh heh…have a great game RF and hope all is well…
I’d much rather see the Donkeys win the division than a team led by Philip Rivers, undoubtedly the most obnoxious man in our division.
SD seems to like Rivers for his kookiness. Everywhere else, his undeniable skill is sadly surpassed by the unmistakable odor of @$$. : )
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 4, 2009 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
LMAO...I mentioned Gates above before I saw this LOL
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!! (April 2009 prediction)
Revised to 11-5 due to reality!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
If Denver can win minimum 4 out of 5 then
we are a legitimate contender in playoff pursued to SB, inconsistency of offense notwithstanding. In my point of view, 10-6 record may make in as a wildcard because of falling out of either PIT or more likely BAL to lose 2 of their remaining games but then that 10-6 team will be one and done. 11-5 team surprises me and my hope, but 8-8 to 10-6 was my original and logical expectation.
Words can fool men but Nature doesn't give a damn!
Pittsburg shouldn't lose a game from here on out since they have a limp schedule remaining.
That would make the Steelers 11-5 and over us if we lose one. But that being said they have lost a couple of games they should have won, so anything thing can happen in the NFL. Me personally, I hope we play the Steelers again in the playoffs because we can beat them and should have on that fateful Monday night.
Just take it, AND...
….punch ’em in the mouth.
: )
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 5:00 PM MST up reply actions
thanks Steve!!
all those rrestaurants…yum…. droools donuts..mmmmmmmmmm
What I'll be watching for on Sunday:
The linemen better be very physical and hold their blocks till the whistle blows. The defense better play disciplined gap control and not go trying to win the game individually, but as a team. The running backs better hang on to the ball. Orton better make good decisions about where to throw the ball and the receivers better catch it and hold on to it. Prater better keep knocking it in the end zone and splitting the uprights. Berger better keep hitting it like he’s a decade younger than stated age. McD better have a great game plan and call really wise plays. Then I’ll be happy and enjoying those fine ribs I’ll be cooking on the Big Green Egg in honor of the American Royal World Series of Barbeque in Kansas City.
Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein
Broncos more disciplined this year?
During the last few years the Broncos seemed to play up to good opponents but, unfortunately, down to weaker opponents. During the first six games I was sure McD et al had changed that problem but during the 4 game skid they regressed. I know Orton was hurt for the second half of the skins game but the team seemed to just give up if they got behind. They seemed to give up in the second half of the Steelers game as well and I’m not sure if there are too many things that tick me off more than seeing a team quit trying. Do you think that is just an aberration with this team, or due to some immaturity (although I sure thought we had enough veteran leadership on this team to counter that) or what?
"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.
I don’t suffer from insanity – I enjoy every minute of it!
by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Dec 4, 2009 3:12 PM MST reply actions
BnS!!
I freakin love your moniker — appeals to both of my passions!
Welcome, it’s good to have you around!
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 4, 2009 4:53 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks!
I find they go well together – for celebrating or consoling. I prefer celebrating…
"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.
I don’t suffer from insanity – I enjoy every minute of it!
by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Dec 4, 2009 6:41 PM MST up reply actions
and my two cents are
(a) we have some young players that needed to be brought along, and
(b) we have a talented but young rookie HC that is learning how to sustain intensity in his team.
Long term, I’m not worried about swoons at all. They’re all learning together — even McDaniels, who I would guess is as self-critical as anyone when things go south.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 4, 2009 4:55 PM MST up reply actions
I think we played very well against good teams the first 6 games...
..and against a couple of lesser teams (OAK and CLE). But our losses were balanced. We lost to one bad team (WAS) and lost to three good teams (BAL, PIT, SD). Given our overall schedual, I think we did a good job. Those four losses are hard to take because they were in a row, and after 6 wins.
Still, they showed that we are a good team, and an improved team, but not a “great” team yet.
I do think some of the players started playing flat, and it was likely the dejection from getting beat down (not a good excuse). but frankly, I think our veteran leadership (particularly Dawkins) has addressed that and fixed the issue.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 4, 2009 5:06 PM MST up reply actions
I agree
I am very pleased that we are actually doing pretty well this year – certainly better than the 4-12 prediction a certain DP hack predicted (and he said he was being generous at that). I have particularly enjoyed watching Dawkins. I had never watched him too much as I haven’t watched many Eagles games but I enjoy his intensity and dedication.
I have seen too many teams just ‘go through the motions’ once they get too far down and conversely seen games swing dramatically and quickly through perseverance and continued hard play – a pick 6 here, a big offensive play there and teams can be right back in it.
I know McD isn’t a quitter and hopefully people like Dawk and Champ will set the bar high and learn up the young uns right!
"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.
I don’t suffer from insanity – I enjoy every minute of it!
by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Dec 4, 2009 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
Is there any other way to watch football than with a
scotch whisky? You and Montana know how it’s done.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I prefer a Stolichnaya and orange juice.
Not that I want to support the Russian economy, but I’m partial to screwdrivers.
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 5, 2009 12:54 PM MST up reply actions
I'd prefer Johnny Walker Black if my budget would allow it...
but Absolut and cranberry does nicely!
My New Dream Season
Since the SB is beyond my wildest expectations, and since I didn’t get my hopes up that Denver would take the AFC West, I’d love nothing more than to see Denver get a shot at ending SD’s season in the playoffs. I’d like the Broncos chances in a rubber match. I’d like them very much.
That said, they have to get by KC. I learned long ago that no KC team can be taken for granted in this rivalry. I hope this is the week that Josh McD shows— in another way— that there is a new Sheriff heading the Broncos posse. The old Shannahan habit of dropping a couple should-wins a year has to end. Let’s hope a new trend starts this week.
Thanks for the analysis.
by PredominantlyOrange on Dec 4, 2009 3:21 PM MST reply actions
I wouldn't mind seeing ANYBODY end SD's season...
"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." ~ Thomas Jefferson.
I don’t suffer from insanity – I enjoy every minute of it!
by Broncos 'n Scotch (BS) on Dec 4, 2009 3:23 PM MST reply actions
I think you are going to be pleased then :-)
Just like every other season the Chargers have ever played.
Dolts – O-1 in the only game that truely matters.
We confide in our strength without boasting of it; we respect that of others, without fearing it. -Thomas Jefferson 1793
lol
That’s the kind of consistency I can get behind! ; )
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Dec 4, 2009 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
I agree with the above opinions....
The loss at home to SD had to happen so the Broncos could dethrone them properly…..via a devastating playoff beatdown. We neat them, they adjusted, now it’s OUR turn to learn from our last loss to them. Only then next time we see them, it will be for money.
I felt during that SD game at Invesco that something was burning…. I couldn’t explain it. Then the quote from John Elway came back to me. When the 1998 team lost to Miami, Elway said to another player, “We’ll see them again.” That’s exactly how I feel about the chargers. We WILL see them again. And when next we meet, rivers should yell “every man for himself” and run, terrified, for the safety of the locker room.
With Orton at the helm, we KNOW we can beat that team.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
We neat them = we BEAT them.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
by kentuckybronco on Dec 5, 2009 8:12 AM MST up reply actions
Very nice! lol
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by Steve Nichols on Dec 5, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
LOL
Formerly known as HoosierTeacher or just HT.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 5, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions
Coach knows cassel's strengths in and out.
We should have no problem stopping their offense.
Go Broncos.Go Gators.Go Yankees.
Let's won this one for the Barrel Man, Broncos
May he RIP.
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