Do the Broncos have enough to dethrone the Colts?
by brohamm1978 on Dec 7, 2009 8:20 PM MST
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Is there something that McDaniels isn't telling us? What's the secret sauce behind the recovery from the 4-game losing streak?
They did beat a contender in the NY Giants...I will give them credit on that although the G-Men were in a little rut and still not playing their best ball.
They just routed the Kansas City Chiefs yesterday 44-13. I'm always a little uneasy when they play at Arrowhead, but they put the beating on them and showed they are capable of putting big numbers on the board.
So what's consistent with McDaniels' winning ways?
Here's the last two games:
Versus Giants: 138 to 57 total rushing yards in favor of Denver...held G-Men under 300 total yards for offense.
Versus Chiefs: 245 to 94 total rushing yards in favor of Denver...held Chiefs to 222 total yards of offense.
So the Colts are a totally different animal than the Broncos are used to. The offense as we all know revolves around Peyton Manning. The Colts don't need to be effective at running the ball to win. Hell, they're only averaging about 87yds/game which is good for last in the league. How are they 12-0? They're defense isn't overwhelming their opponents...at least they're not stopping anyone from putting up big yards. The key thing is they are stopping their opponents on the scoreboard. They're only giving up 16.8pts/game, but so are the Broncos.
The Broncos are going into this week with the 3rd ranked defense against the 4th ranked offense. What is the key to stopping Peyton Manning? Simple...keep them from converting on 3rd downs. The Colts are #1 in the league at 3rd down conversions at 51%. This will be the difference maker and momentum stopper for critical Colts' drives.
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McDaniels has something up his sleeve
NE and IND went at it regularly so you know McDaniels has a lot of info on Manning. He knows his weaknesses so if we can bring pressure like we did to start the season and against the NYG, then we can get him off his game.
We really need to bring our A game.
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NE hasn't done so well against Indy over the last 4 years
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Maybe so, however he knows more about Indy than our last HC.
Not saying that will result in anything…..cant’ hurt though.
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Indy only has 87 Yards/game rushing, but
I would be interested in any stats on how well and how often they run in the red zone; it just seems that they always perform well on the ground in that situation. Perhaps it will turn out that MOST of their yards rushing and attempts rushing are in the RZ? I don’t know for sure, just looks that way on the three games I watched.
As for the game, am not viewing us as ready to strongly compete with Indy yet….I think we need a little more time for McD to upgrade the roster. BUT, if there was ever an opponent for which McD may have been specifically holding back plays and strategies for later use, this team would be that opponent. Question is, does the Ravens’ loss make it so he holds out for a possible post-season match-up and still play it close to the vest? I am a great one for conspiracy theories, BTW.
PS didn't vote.
I was looking for a scenario where we compete but still lose. (Dang it!)- I actually believe my conspiracy theory enough to prefer our chances in post-season.
not at all prolific but efficient is how I'd describe the Colts run game
They are dead last in yards per game, but rank 15th in run O DVOA, 13th in power success and Addai has the 6th highest success rate in the last.
statgeekery via
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
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Colts behind all game with a 4Q comeback win would definetly be us competing, IMHO.
I have followed a few of the Colts games and I do think if Denver plays like they did on Thanksgiving this could be a win for us. My #1 key to the game will be to limit the D’s time on the field so they are fresh in the fourth!!
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Yup, could indeed be interpretted that way.
Probably would be my vote after re-evaluation of the possible answers.
I still have the broncos winning this game.
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Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
Indy's D
so far this year has been really good at limiting the big play.
Despite being suspect against the run, they have only given up 3 runs of 20+ and one of 40+
Against the pass they have only given up 22 passes of 20+ and 5 of 40+ (Denver is the best with 25 and 1 respectively)
They have been able to accomplish this by playing with a lead in a lot of these games, but even when they have not had the lead they don’t beat themselves with missed tackles or mental mistakes (like we saw against WAS with the blown coverages).
Fortunately, our offense can still function without a big play. So, that shouldn't be a problem for us.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by kentuckybronco on Dec 8, 2009 8:27 AM MST up reply actions
That made me LOL
My biggest complaint was “where is the deep pass”? Whodda thunk it was the game plan? hahaha
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Secondary will have to play their best ball
Colts do not have a Bobby Wade on their roster that will drop every ball that is thrown his way. Stop Dallas Clark and Reggie Wayne and contain Garcon and Collie. Pressure on Manning and do not telegraph plays on defense, Manning is the best at changing plays if he knows what the defense is doing. IF all these things are accomplished Broncos win.
GO BRONCOS!!!!
I think the formula to beating the Colts is actually quite simple
We need our offensive line to dominate the game and Orton et al need to sustain long, time consuming drives. I want the ball out of Manning’s hands as much as possible. If we can do that and keep our defense as fresh as possible, then I don’t see why we can’t win this game. But if we get down big early and have to air it out, I don’t like our chances of winning this game.
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D has to play very smart and still be very agressive
We are not going to out smart Peyton, but we don’t need to make it easy by being stupid either. Peyton relies on each of his guys doing thier part. They are well coached as a team and individually – this is a classic case of us needing to out execute them. We can do it – but have very little room for error. Yeah – the A game can and should do it, but anything less results in a heart break as it could just be one poorly timed stumble that decides the game.
The Colts relatively easy schedule has handed the Colts 3 or 4 games this season.
They’ve only played one division leader (NE) and eched out a victory they should have lost. There run game consists of making first downs mainly. They don’t run to gain bunches of yards. Their main weapons are the OLIne protecting Manning in the pocket and their 4 main receivers (Collie, Wayne, Clark and Garcon). Garcon had a big game last Sunday against Tennessee gaining 136 receiving yds. Champ and Goodman have to be on their game or Manning will exploit them. You know, like white on rice. BDawk can handle Collie and Clark. The biggest thing our defense has to do is make statement like they did with Roy Williams and the Cowboys. Williams didn’t want to play anymore after the hit DJ put on him. The Broncos defense have shown they can beat the best of them and Indy in my opinion is not the best.
Arizona's a division leader as well. So that's two.
Our schedule has been tougher than a lot of teams’ schedule. It’s ranked pretty high in DVOA and other schedule ranking sites. I’m pretty sure all of them rank our past schedule as being harder than yours.
And if you’re going to say we’ve eeked out a victory we should’ve lost, then you should’ve lost that Cincy game as well. If NE gave the game to us, it gave the game to you as well as they had a 4th Q lead against you as well and you needed OT to win.
You’re right that we don’t run to get bunches of yards. But we just had a 7+ minute drive last Sunday to run the clock down in the Titans game. We use short passing and short runs as a type of combination run game.
The Oline is not that good. They’re average. Manning’s quick release makes them look a lot better than they are in the passing game. Their run blocking has improved since DeVan took over and we’re much better with Johnson around.
Who is better than Indy? We’re capable of making a case against any team you put out there.
Granted, very good team, GREAT QB, very good front office.
Waste of time, IMO, looking at strength of schedule, or if luck invoked to get a win.
History is a poor fortune-teller for specifics, but a good indicator of generalities. It suggests that the BEST team in the league loses AT LEAST 1 game per year. Why not this week? Your team has accomplished enough that it surely would not be predicted off of team overall strength—— that is the W-L record—— but our team has its own strengths. If fortune smiles…if hubris causes the gods to be angry…. if the mob rigs it….. OR if we play up to our best potential, WE CAN WIN…. and we intend to try to TAKE IT. I hope it is a great game.
Just to point out
We all here know that Cincy game was an oddball victory and all fans will take a W no matter how it comes. FWIW Denver has not recieved any credit for that win. As for NE, well, we were supposed to lose to them, so in that case they found a way to lose :-D Just sayin….
I Think this Denver team has an excellent chance to beat Indy. I am a not so active fan of Peyton and the Colts because they are a good team and in my opinion they have been eeking out a few wins lately. I am a very active fan of the Broncos and proudly proclaim my glee that our rebuilding team with a new coach, new schemes, new players and absolutly no ones blessings at the beginning of the season actually match up well with one of the most dominant teams in recent NFL history.
Yeehaaww!
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