Might the Colts be the Perfect Matchup for the Broncos?
For years, the bain of the Denver Broncos' existence has been Peyton Manning and his Indianapolis Colts.
Dating back to the early 2000's, one of the most lop-sided matchups in the NFL has been the dominance of the Indianapolis Colts over the Denver Broncos.
These aren't the same Denver Broncos.
I realize the Colts are undefeated, and that they are playing this game at home. I know that a victory for them clinches a first round bye. I even understand the magnitude of the potential NFL record 22nd straight regular season victory for the Colts.
But so do they, and that may not be the best thing.
In the NFL, winning is winning, and you can't make excuses for it. The Colts have been up to every task so far, but they are walking on egg shells.
This is a team living on the edge, winning half of their games by four points or less. They also overcame a 17 point deficit against the Houston Texans two weeks ago.
Again, the only thing that is important is that they are winning, but the living on the edge could stop when Denver visits Lucas Oil Stadium this Sunday.
The Colts are a very favorable matchup for the Broncos, provided Denver brings the game it plays in the eight games they have won rather than the four games they have been blown out in.
The Colts' rushing offense is putrid, ranking 32nd in the NFL with nearly 88 yards per game. Despite the inept running attack the Colts boast, they still rank fourth in the NFL in total offense and scoring.
On the defensive side of the ball, Indianapolis ranks a very mediocre 18th against the run, allowing 111.7 yards per contest.
This is an area the Broncos must take advantage of, and very well should.
Denver's rushing offense ranks ninth in the NFL at 125.6 yards per contest, and they might be one of the hottest units in the league.
Correll Buckhalter made Kansas City's run defense look absolutely silly, averaging over nine yards per carry. Rookie Knowshon Moreno is in his best stretch as a pro, rushing for 86 yards in each of the last two games and scoring three of his five touchdowns in that timeframe.
Additionally, Denver fans breathed a sigh of relief when Peyton Hillis, the breakout running back from 2008, was spotted on the field against the Chiefs. He came in on the final drive of the game and ran the ball seven times for 47 yards.
A welcome sight for the Broncos and their fans, to be sure.
On the defensive side of the ball, the Broncos had really been struggling against the run until the last two games. They rank 16th in this particular category, which is clearly the weakest part of their defensive attack.
The Broncos should be able to limit Joseph Addai and the Colts' running game while running the ball well themselves.
Another area where the Broncos could excel is in the passing game defensively. Obviously, the focal point of the Colts' offense is their elite passing game featuring two of the league's best in Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne.
Manning and Wayne lead the NFL's top ranked passing attack, but they face a very stiff task in Denver who rank second in the entire league in passing defense.
Denver is led by All-Pros Champ Bailey and Brian Dawkins, and veterans Renaldo Hill and Andre' Goodman who lead the team with a combined six interceptions. The Broncos also added veteran Ty Law and top youngsters Darcel McBath, Alphonso Smith, and David Bruton to the mix in their defensive backfield.
Perhaps the most overlooked aspect of Denver's defense is their pass rush, which is a big reason for the success of the defensive backfield.
Led by current NFL sack king Elvis Dumervil, the Bronco pass rush has been rejuvenated under Mike Nolan in the 3-4 defensive scheme. Denver features ten different players who have recorded a sack in 2009, and it could become 11 if rookie first round pick Robert Ayers records his first quarterback takedown of the season against Indianapolis.
The Broncos rank fifth in the NFL with 34 sacks, and the Colts lead the NFL with only 10 sacks allowed. This will be the key matchup in the game, as the Broncos have to apply pressure to Peyton Manning to be able to win.
Another thing the Broncos have on their side is the simple fact that the Colts are undefeated, which may be confusing on the surface.
I know this isn't baseball, and may not even be applicable, but in baseball when a team is on a hot streak, it is not the worst thing to have to play them. Winning streaks are bound to end, and the Colts' win streak isn't exactly picking up steam.
The Broncos could catch them at their highest point, and bring them back down to earth. The Colts likely are not going to go 16-0, and with their defense ailing worse than it has in years, this could be the week for them to slip up.
I am not going to be so bold as to say the Broncos will go into Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday and beat the undefeated Colts, but I would say it is a definite possibility.
I think this is a very favorable matchup for the Broncos, who are in desperate need for a win this weekend to potentially gain ground on the San Diego Chargers who also have a tough road game in the works.
Maybe the Broncos will finally get the best of Peyton Manning and the Colts. Maybe the stars will align just right, and Denver will even stick it to Indy on their home turf.
Maybe all those years of blowout playoff and regular season losses were all just setting up this contest, where neither team's sideline will feature the likes of Mike Shanahan or Tony Dungy.
Maybe, just maybe.
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Good job
McD has been building a team that can play in the playoffs and the Colts are one of those potential opponents. Hence our seasoned secondary.
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
Thanks
I agree, we can definitely compete with these guys, and I think we can win.
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
I WANT to beat Indy badly, BUT
1) I think McD will still not show us (or them) the full package on offense OR defense, as a possible post-season meeting awaits.
2) I think we need to give Mcd/X more time to work more magic on the roster to really be able to claim an equal team to Indy
3) Don’t undervalue their defense at Indy- they do quite well on stopping teams long enough for their own offense to make it a passing game, then nail down the coffin lid.
4) I doubt our pass rush will get too close—— Manning is the master of adjusting to what the defense is doing when it comes to pass rush. The most we can to is hope to interfere with his efficiency by making him check away from the big plays and hope for the longer drives to stall.
5) We are going to beat ’em anyway.
Excellent points.
I see the key as the offense getting off to a quick start. Field goals and early red zone failures won’t cut it. Orton and the O HAVE to put early TDs on the board. Indy’s D is good at what it does. I see Indy’s D as being built around the presumption that P Manning will put points on the board early and often, leaving the D free to blitz and take chances. However, if we can put Manning behind early, and our running game is up to grinding the clock with a lead, our D can flip the script and put pressure on Manning.
My (not very unique) recipe for a Broncos win: Lots of carries for the THREE headed monster of KnowBuckHillis, more of the TE and Beast screens we saw against KC on O. Provided we can jump out to a quick 7-10 point lead, Nolan will be free to send Dawkins and Elvis (and maybe DJ?) from different angles and disguised blitzes.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
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with the hope that enough pressure will eventually drive Manning into some risky throws and a pick or two. He has shown that he will get somewhat careless with the ball under enough pressure.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
Hmm...
Good food for thought. I don’t know if I agree or know to an extent what you mean about the full package of our offense being revealed. I think that has been the case all season long, as we have vastly underachieved offensively as a whole.
I think our team, as it stands, is just as talented as Indy’s. Maybe not at certain positions, but as a whole, we have just as talented a roster.
Their defense is banged up, and has given up some points against the likes of Indy and Houston. We can score on them.
Our pass rush will be fine, but the Colts are good in that area. Manning makes quick reads, so our db’s are going to have to be on top of their game all day.
I agree, we will beat them anyway!
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 7:25 PM MST up reply actions
Clarification for Sayre
IF he has a card up his sleeve specifically for INDY, I think he holds if for the playoff game. I think he will use anything else that has been shown already or is not specific to Indy alone. Pitt and Balt really have helped out with us making the playoffs; this is no longer a MUST win, just an I REALLY WANT IT win. He can afford to play his hide-out card last.
Also, its not just pass rush; they play no-huddle/hurry up better than anyone, and we have to match that tempo. I don’t think we will trouble Manning as much as we would like. I’ll be happy if we just keep him from making the big strikes.
STILL WIN, even if God himself has to reach down and yank it out of the coals for us. (translation: Dawk is going to spearhead this thing)
Two Things
It’s for teams like Indy that I really want a stud D-lineman in the draft. We are going to have a hard time beating them with our rotation when they are running the hurry up, and we just have to win the battles up front because I don’t see them making mistakes and missing guys going after Peyton.
I also think that their running game is underrated because they don’t use it much. They are averaging something like 4.2 YPC which is good. That’s why I really hope that Dawkins will be a huge factor in helping the D, because they don’t really have weakness so neither can we. :)
agreed on both counts...
can I get a big AMEN from the Bronco congregation to the idea of trading up and getting Ndamukong Suh??
him and doom rushing the same QB!?!?! talk about terrifying…
seriously though, he makes an impact on every down from the interior d-line position (probably DE for our 3-4), he’s also been considered a leader in the Nebraska locker room (McD’s type of player) and with chicago’s top 10 pick, we’d be pretty close to where we’d need to be to get him already…
by bailey disciple on Dec 9, 2009 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
hmmmmm
I’ll reserve my Amen for a little while. Moving up to get Suh will cost us a lot. Not only a few picks to move up into the 1-3 range, but also in salary cap space. The dude is a freak, but freaks ain’t free.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM MST up reply actions
'I am not going to be so bold...'
Is just about exactly how I’d put it. I do agree that there are a lot of reasons to be optimistic— ranging from intangibles like Indy’s ownership of the Broncos during Manning’s career and the tendency for those things to balance out over time in the NFL, to favorable on-field match ups. Most particularly, I like Denver’s o-line against any 4-3 out there and Denver’s ability pressure Manning. I think this one could shape up into a vintage game, at least.
The selfish, they're all standing in line
Faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
Me, I figure as each breath goes by
I only own my mind-- Pearl Jam, "I am Mine"
by PredominantlyOrange on Dec 7, 2009 11:00 PM MST reply actions
Thanks
I really think this matchup is favorable for us. The Colts’ weaknesses on offense is ours on defense, and our strengths offensively are their weaknesses. The passing game is their biggest strength, where we excel in pass defense.
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 7:27 PM MST up reply actions
Sayre... a man after my own heart.
This is such an awesome post. You already know that, because you wrote it but here is why I think that it is so awesome:
I’ve been contesting the opinions of my most football-knowledgable family members this whole last week. I’ve was telling them how badly I wanted Indy to win this week against Tennessee. Indy’s win this week kept them up in the clouds; and that is just where we need them to be for Sunday. How else are we gonna blow them out of the sky?
I was trying to communicate all the things you illustrated so matter of factly here, only I was riding on mostly emotions with my arguments. I made the comments about matchups but all to no avail. None of them believe we’ll have a shot this weekend, but I totally feel the possibility and even more.
We’ve got a huge shot here, and it does seem like the stars have aligned. Great post Sayre, you’re onto something i’ve been feeling since last week and i’m willing to bet that we will both be proven right!
ORANGE CRUSH! ... need I say more?
by USMCWall on Dec 7, 2009 11:08 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks!
I appreciate it!
I hope the reasons here are some you can use to convince our doubters, but in the end it only matters how these guys get it done on the field, which I think they will. The Broncos are just getting hot, while the Colts appear to be destined for a loss sooner rather than later.
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 7:29 PM MST up reply actions
Great thoughts mixed with mighty fine logic Sayre,
I couldn’t agree more. The Colts have really struggled in several games recently. We could very well be catching them, maybe not sleeping, but unprepared just enough to blow them out early.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Thanks Mike
I really think an upset is in the works for this weekend, and if not, we will learn from it and comeback to beat Oakland next week. I am still holding hope for 12-4
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 7:30 PM MST up reply actions
I'm still holding out for 13-3.......
…….funny me…
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
I'm holding hope for 13-4...
…or more. Better than 13-3
by SoCalBroncsFan on Dec 9, 2009 3:15 AM MST up reply actions
Two things that scare me about the Indy game
1. The Broncos committed three turnovers against the Chiefs – we have to win the turnover battle against Indy to have a shot
2. Ten came into the game putting up huge running game numbers and consequently scoring a lot of points. Indy was able to limit Johnson to a very pedestrian 4.2 YPC (he averages 6.2 on the year) – 27 car 113 yds. In fact C. Johnson’s had two of his worst three games of the year against the Colts (other agn Pit) with only a long run of 11 in the two games (34 yds, 3.8 YPC, long of 8 in first game). If Indy was keeping 8 in the box to stop the run against Tenn, whose WRs don’t scare anyone other than Tenn. fans, I don’t think that they will be able to do this against Denver. Indy has shown the ability to at least slow down the run, but my guess is that they did this by walking a safety up agn Tenn. The Broncos will make them pay for that with play action.
Good points
I think the turnovers can be rectified. Orton just needs to get rid of the dang ball faster. It was ticking me off on Sunday the way he held onto the ball rather than checking it down, which he is supposed to be amazing at.
As far as running the ball, we will be able to run all over these guys. They are missing a lot of defenders, and we could take advantage.
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
This is one of Orton's traditional weaknesses
Throwing a flat ball over the D line, which leads to tips, and ‘burping the baby’ are the two habits he has that have driven many nuts for years. He was doing much better for most of the season. Gosh, ya think that McD/McCoy mentioned it to him this week ;-)
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
Great post
I am feeling a great game this weekend with a result that may surprise a lot of folks. I think Prater provides the game winner late.
Peyton .....
an uncanny combination of great physical skills and a very quick and adaptive mind. No magic involved. His skills are so extraordinary that the whole offense revolves around him. No need for the running game or even a shut down defense – Peyton will get the points need for the win. It is simple to shut down the colts – just have some Colombians kidnap Manning. If you let him on the feild it becomes much harder to shut him down as he is so adept in spoting threats and seeing oportunities. He has seen so many packages thrown at him that it becomes increasingly hard to disguise anything. Manning is not infallable, nor are his recievers. The defense must play nearly perfect ball and not allow Peyton any ‘do overs’ thanks to a penalty. The secondary must be able to hold coverage long enough for a 4 man rush to get to Peyton. Sending a fifth man is very risky due to Peytons ability to read. The good news is that Denver does have the secondary most likely to be able to do this. The game will really come down to a chess match between Peyton and Dawkins, Baily et al. I think our guys are up for it – but there is very little room for error.
sorry about that
Bet you were doing he— yeahs the first two sentances – thought I was over the top in #3
I wonder if 'Wild Horses' will make another appearance in this game?
We haven’t seen it since the first quarter of the first Sandy Eggo game (if memory serves), and it seemed that Miami had great success with their Wild Cat formation all those weeks ago. Perhaps this would be an opportune time to showcase that formation again. It should help to confuse the Indy defense, if nothing else.
In any case we need to play sound, fundamental defense to win this game, and do our best to keep the ball out of Manning’s hands. We need good to great pressure on Manning so that the receivers have less time to get open, score a lot of points and have the ball for the last 10 minutes of the game, so that Manning doesn’t have a chance to make a comeback.
Time is a great teacher. Unfortunately, it kills all of it's students.
by Jason Witte on Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Great observation. +1 sir.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 8, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions
About the many versions of the WildCat:
Only the original works against the Colts. The original WildCat worked against us so well because the Dolphins had one of the best offensive lines I’ve ever seen and absolutely blew our defensive tackles (one of which was cut for chronic fatness) off the ball. Also, Ronnie Brown was another main reason they were able to gash us. He is built perfectly for that style of offense, and the Dolphins’ management spent the offseason drafting and signing guys who would fit that style.
When other teams tried it (Jacksonville on a 2 pt. conversion attempt and the 49ers, IIRC), it got destroyed. Gimmicks like the “Wild Horses” typically don’t work on the Colts. It only worked for Miami because it wasn’t a gimmick. It was their offense.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.
The Wild Horses formation is used more as a different way for Orton to be able to read a defense.
I’m not exactly sure what he is looking for when he is out at the WR position, but most of the times he comes back behind the center to take the snap. Only when the offense thinks they are at an advantage to run it do we snap it to the RB and even then, it is more like a straight running play, minus Orton handing it off.
Essentially, the wildhorses takes away a defender because someone has to shadow Orton. On a normal down, Orton would just hand off and be out of the play. At least, in the wild horses formation he is drawing a defender away from stopping the run. It isn’t a staple of the Broncos attack like the wildcat is in Miami, but it throws in a few wrinkles for the Colts to adjust to.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
by Troy Hufford on Dec 8, 2009 12:57 PM MST up reply actions
Nice thought!
We already showed it in NE (so we are not giving anything away for post-season), it is not the usual Wildcat and so Indy will have to have prepared specifically for it or use time outs as NE did, and its design is to give Orton a chance to read the defense better. I don’t see any downside to using it.
Orton's ankle
Considering how much the offense (and the team) suffered when Orton’s ankle was hurt, I wouldn’t expect McD to chance aggrivating it by running him out in the Wild Horses (even as a stand-still decoy). That being said, the formation is a great way for Orton and the coaches to evaluate the opponent’s scheme vis-a-vis the LB-TE relationship. When Orton has come back under center in that formation, he’s mostly thrown to the TE.
by JohnElwayOverdrive on Dec 9, 2009 9:34 AM MST up reply actions
Indy's no huddle scares me.
Denver is poor against no huddle offenses
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
by Joe Medina on Dec 8, 2009 2:35 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Yeah joe your absolutely right about the no-huddle offense.
That is one of Mannings best weapons. On one occasion during the Texans game I couldn’t believe they didn’t get a false start call. They lined up so fast it was unbelievable that they could get the play off without movement. There was no replay on the play and that bothered me some. Nolan/McD will have to be on their toes with this and the defense has to pressure Manning into making mistakes. Which he makes very few of.
Rec'd
GREAT point. You just know Peyton Manning has been licking his chops watching film of BAL/PIT/SD running the no-huddle to great success against our D. Hopefully Nolan is working out the kinks.
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
OH BOY, WISH YOU HAD NOT SAID THAT!
Absolutely way too true. This is the best comment on the game I have seen, and its a killer for us. OUCH.
True
When they are not prepared for it. If we are prepared for it and have the correct personnel on the field, we should be fine. The no huddle is not indefensible.
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 7:33 PM MST up reply actions
How would you define the correct
personnel for the no huddle?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.
No huddle defense
DL: Peterson, Fields
LB: Davis, Williams, Dumervil, Woodyard
CB: Bailey, Goodman, Law
S: Dawkins, Hill
by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 8, 2009 10:15 PM MST up reply actions
I like it!!!
A 3-3-5 just like SDSU runs. I’m counting Doom as the third DL.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Dec 9, 2009 3:30 AM MST up reply actions
Indy does not want to get into a dog fight with the Broncos.
They know that they have the division and playoffs in hand, they don’t want to get beat up in any way especially when they have to play a division game on Thursday. They know they can’t afford to lose key players this Sunday and may play a more finesse type game to try and win. It would behove them to play at half throttle or the consequences could be dire for them going into the playoffs. We have to win this game to keep up with SD and it may weigh heavier on us to beat them than they us. Should be a good game either way.
And I am sure
that you know exactly what the Indy Coaches/Management/Players want.
To crossover from another thread; if anyone on this site today has been “Pompous” it has been you sir…
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Dec 8, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions
Oh, and by the way. That mistake was made by your excoach once already.
I am sure they won’t make the same one this time. But who knows more? Right?
Who knows more?
Bill Polian/Jim Irsay/Jim Caldwell or…. bfreetobronc?
Oh yeah. Thats right. YOU DO…
Oh, and by the way, your still being pompous…
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Dec 8, 2009 8:12 PM MST up reply actions
Darn it Hossier
More profanity intended but this is a familiy freindly site. It is the unquestioned right of every sports fan to guess and second guess every coach in the leauge – that is what fandom is about. Only Caldwell knows what Caldwell will do, but that does not mean we should not try to speculate …. gotta have fun with the game. I promise that if Manning were to be hurt in a meaningless game there would be a lot of Indy fans calling for Caldwells scalp.
I agree with you.
But this game is anything but “meaningless” for the Colts. It is likely that the Colt’s will rest players, but I doubt it will be this week…
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Dec 9, 2009 3:10 PM MST up reply actions
You like putting people on here down don't you, little man? That makes you bigger doesn't it?
I never mentioned BigBlues name until your little 2 cents was throwed in. I don’t need you or any body else to tell me how I feel, so crawl back in your outhouse and enjoy your roses.
This doesn't even make sense...
Who did I put down? When/where did I tell you how to feel? Why are there roses in an outhouse? And how in the world did you know I was a midget with an inferiority complex?
/Puts on his shoes with lifts in them to go water his flowers in the porta-potty…
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Dec 9, 2009 3:14 PM MST up reply actions
Is it just me?
considering the BBS thread which upset quite a few of us and seeing follow ups on other threads. It just seems that many of the colts fans posting over here are offended by us supporting our team and not only hoping for a win but expecting one. That is just crazy. First, it is a Broncos fan site. Second, Do Colts fans really think they are special or should be considered above reproach. My personal feelings ( I am new to MHR this year) are that the Indy fans are the worst I have seen as far as not being willing to accept another teams fans opinions without taking it personal.
The Real Big offense was made by BBS and all the rest have paid for it with my/our ire. None the less, Colts fans may want to visit thier own site since BBS has not been seen since he started all this and give him back what you are taking from us.
Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
BBS only talked about ex coach. Nothing about how you guys shouldn't expect to win. As far as I can see from his posts.
I’ve said it a few times, but I don’t think the Colts fans in general are being arrogant. Most of us have just answered questions, joked around, etc. Most of us have said it’ll be a good game. shrug I really only have seen maybe two Colts fans’ posts even predicting a Colts win on this site.
As a Colts fan, I do think we’ve a special team, but the fans as a bunch are just like any other team’s fans. We’re more spoiled than most fans having seven consecutive 12 wins seasons. We complain about the smallest things and most of our whining is focused against the media as there’s not much to complain about the team.
I am just not sure why we’re being attacked as “pompous asses” or being called the “worst” if you’re only offended by one or two posters.
You guys have a right to be confident about your team obviously. It’s a great team that has accomplished what very few thought it could. Honestly, we understand that. Nobody expected us to do as well as we have either. We’ve both overachieved according to those that don’t follow our respective teams.
I hope as the week goes along we have a chance to change your mind. :)
diagenesis
There are several, including you that have been the typical fan I have become accustomed to. My very most favorite thing about MHR/SBN is the lack of trolling or hate mongering amongst the different teams in general.
I admit I am a bit jumpy at times and perhaps a little over zealous as well. My experience here is limited and so I will hold my opinions and continue reading, well, hold my negative opinions of other fans anyway, for now.
Should be a barn burner, I hope we give you guys a good game. A win would be amazing!!!
Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Your absolutely right diagenesis and I apologize for my rant.
When a fan of another site comes over here and insults our ex-headcoach then I get real excited about it. I am hot tempered and mild mannered if you can deferentiate from either one. Sorry for the rant, good to interact with you guys and let’s have a great game this Sunday, win, lose or draw.
Flagged
Don’t feed the trolls – just flag them. That way their posts magically disappear…
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
that's on hoosier, by the way.
Name calling is one of the things that gets you tossed on MHR. We appreciate your understanding.
Moreno/Buckhalter in '09
Caldwell has publicly stated that the Colts don't plan to pursue 16-0 aggressively.
Hoser,
Bfree does know exactly what the Indy Coaches/Management/Players want. He knows they want to win the Super Bowl. He is assuming that Caldwell et al. are intelligent and competent enough to make decisions that won’t jeopardize that goal in any way.
While I think “throttling back” is a good way to get injured, I do agree that it would be a prudent decision for the Colts not to pull out all the stops.
If a player gets dinged but can still play, I think Caldwell would err on the side of caution and sit them.
Since it’s a possibility that the Colts could meet the Broncos in the playoffs, I expect the colts to use a vanilla playbook to avoid tipping their hand.
This game means a lot more to the Broncos than it does to the Colts. Denver is trying to stay in Wild Card position and is pursuing San Diego for the division title, while Indy just has to avoid going 0-4.
You said it a lot better than I could Velveeta and thanks.
I wasn’t saying the Colts won’t try to win, but it would be a major error knowing you already have the playoffs sewed up and I don’t very seriously if SD or Cincy will win out to the end and in fact it is impossible for at least one of them, since they play each other.
This game is more important to us if McD feels he has a chance to win the division and since New England lost (7-5) we could play them at home again. Caldwell does have to give the fans a game and their monies worth and juggle his players hoping that disaster doesn’t strike. Look at Pittsburg and how they miss Palomalu, one player can mean the difference between success and defeat.
Our playbook's pretty vanilla to start with.
It’s based on timing and execution.
I think we would pull out all of the stops for the Broncos game rather than the other three games. Here is why:
1. We need the Broncos game to win the common opponents game against Cincy. If Cincy wins all of their remaining games and we only win the Jets game, we would have to go to a strength of victory comparison. I don’t know if we win that. Haven’t looked into it. Cincy would win common opponents if we only win the Jags or Buffalo game. With San Diego, it doesn’t matter which one game we win, but right now nobody knows who will win out b/w San Diego and Cincy (or someone else.)
2. It would be better to risk injury in the game against Denver than any of the other ones as it gives us the longest time to heal whoever gets injured.
3. While Broncos want this win, it’s not crucial for their playoff hopes like it will be for Jacksonville and the Jets.
4. The Jacksonville game is an away game with only four days in between and against a division opponent that knows us well.
5. Nobody wants to risk people in the cold in Buffalo in Week 17.
6. All the streaks that we have going on.
7. This is the only home game I’m going to this year and I would really like it to be a Colts win.
Looking at all this, it seems to me that this is THE game we want to win.
Indy has to win this game
or 2 of the final 4 to be guaranteed the #1 seed. I agree that the Colt’s will rest players, just not this week…
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Dec 9, 2009 3:16 PM MST up reply actions
Read it again.
I didn’t say that the Colts would rest players. What I said was that if a player gets hurt, but still has the ability to play, it would be a good decision not to risk further injury.
I have a very good feeling about this week.
We have to remember that Manning took advantage of inexperiance in the secondary against us. Whether it was Roc Alexander, D Will, Foxworth, and even Dre Bly. He exposed them BIG TIME. This year, he will have to challenge a veteran secondary who will make him pay.
My thoughts exactly
I am not going to be so bold as to say the Broncos will go into Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday and beat the undefeated Colts, but I would say it is a definite possibility.
I’m really looking forward to this game to see if the Broncos can continue to play at a high level, and how they match up with one of the best teams in the NFL.
I’m not expecting a win, but I am expecting a good game.
We CAN'T overlook Dallas Clark...
It’s all good to prepare for Wayne and Manning, but IMO Dallas Cark is their MVP. He constantly gets the tough yardage with great hands and hard-nosed running after the catch.
We will be in for a LONG day if we can’t shut him down….
I do agree that we match up well with Indy overall however. :)
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!! (April 2009 prediction)
Revised to 11-5 due to reality!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
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Clark
I agree, but not only because he’s very good. How we match up and cover Clark (given that the Colts will run something like a hurry-up) will influence most of the other schematic and personnel decisions for both teams. If we put Woodyard on Clark and he’s still available to be effective, or they are able to run the ball in key situations, it will be a looooong day.
by JohnElwayOverdrive on Dec 9, 2009 9:48 AM MST up reply actions
Let's hope for a big day from Elvis.
It seems like we’ve faced a string of big/young/quick QB’s recently, Cassel, Manning (2), Big Ben….
…it’s kind of amazing Elvis has has many sacks as he does. But Peyton isn’t exactly the speediest QB in the league. I don’t think he will be able to out run Doom like some other QB’s have.
Gut Feeling
We win. I have no more substance than that, but I feel it (and I don’t always feel it.) See, men can talk about their “feeeeelings”.
I expect McD to have our guys primed for the game Sunday. Not only to beat the Colts but also that SD has to play the Cowboys.
I expect the ‘Boys to come out swinging. They didn’t like being beaten by NY on Sunday. They would like to regain their swagger by taking down SD. This is a chance to move even with the Bolts.
I expect an excellent game. KC had success in the past against Indi with pressure in the middle of the O line. I expect to see our guys get in Mannings’ face – and to force him to pass quickly. Our guys in the secondary match up pretty well – but I guess we will see how that pans out. Pressure and secondary work is what McD talked about. Our D is much more successful when it is disciplined. I hope to see that as well.
Gonna be a barnburner!!! Go Broncos!!!
Keep up the solid work Sayre
I’m a big fan.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
I don't feel the same excitement around this game in Indy...
I thought that the Colts would play hard for one more week and then lose to Jacksonville next week, but they might tank this one anyway. To be honest, as a Colts fan, the Broncos are not a team that worry me. The Colts running game is highly under-rated and would gouge the Broncos D. Indy’s best game of the season was against Tennessee last week. They dominated in all phases of the game. If they get up early it will nullify Denver’s rushing attack like we saw against Chris Johnson. Put it on cruise control and win by 10. However, the Colts probably played their worst game in Houston the week before. They looked totally disinterested and just decided to win at the end because they could. If they follow this second model, the Broncos running game could put the game on ice and Denver could very easily come out of this game with a win.
why would they tank this one?
we can break a NE record, we can clinch home field, could be our last play to win game for the regular season as a player youll want that to be a W and we could break 49ers most wins in a decade record too, my last reason and probably and important one to play lights out in this game is personal milestones, we have several players on the hunt of some records wayne, clark , peyton MVP run and Coach Caldwell COY run, so if the Colts mentality is to rest starters once home field is clinched then this game is hugely important for all these players and milestones, i think this might be one if not the most important game of this season.
Yeah, but how stupid would Caldwell look if he puts his guys in for a record
and someone vital gets hurt. These things happen all the time.
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thebossuzzi
You just gave eight reasons for the Colts to choke. Not to be mean spirited here but it happens all the time. People tend to try too hard when something is on the line. You state four team reasons and worse yet four personal reasons that players will be trying too hard. If individual players play for records instead of the team that could lead to break downs in assigments or just plain old mistakes.
Here to hoping they try very hard :-P
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