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Horse Tracks - 12/9/09 - Broncos Lose Harris For the Season

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Yes, the loss of Ryan Harris is unfortunate, but certainly not unexpected.  Perhaps the most important asset an offensive tackle has are his feet and footwork.  That is what makes Ryan Clady so effective.  An injury, such as a dislocated big-toe, can be a huge problem.  Credit to Harris for trying to gut it out.  Now the burden falls to Tyler Polumbus.  He's played the majority of games the past 5 weeks and has improved as time has gone on.  The time is now for Polumbus, who grew up in Denver and went to Colorado, to lay-claim to a future spot on the Broncos offensive line.

DB.com - Warriors of a Winter Food Drive(Zach Eisendrath and Chris Gentisalvo)
That tradition received a reward on Tuesday morning when Darrell Reid, Wesley Woodyard, Broncos cheerleaders Romi Bean and Jessica Flores and Broncos mascot Miles attended the students' lunch hour to congratulate them for their efforts.

DB.com - Holidays Come Early(Gary Caldwell)
There were plenty of smiles and full carts as the holidays came a little early Monday night.

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DP - Broncos OT Harris out for season
The Broncos will play the rest of the season, including any playoff games, without starting right tackle Ryan Harris.

DP - How about Broncos' McDaniels for NFL coach of the year?(Mark Kiszla)
For everybody who cursed this young football coach for trading Jay Cutler, condemned his draft picks as madness or demanded he be fired before his first game on the Broncos' sideline, it's time to consider calling Josh McDaniels a new name:

DP - Broncos use Champ to be champ of special teams(Lindsay Jones)
No, that wasn't an error on the play-by-play report from the Broncos' 44-13 victory at Kansas City on Sunday. That really was Champ Bailey — yes, the likely future Hall of Fame cornerback — running downfield on a kickoff and making a solo tackle on a third-quarter kick return.

DP - Broncos' Prater has a big leg up on 2008(Jeff Legwold)
It's a simple, proven formula. To play the kind of field-position football the Broncos want to play down the stretch, it will start with their kicker, Matt Prater.

DP - Moreno looking good for the long run(Jim Armstrong)
This just in. Knowshon Moreno, after a preseason that included the obligatory contract holdout and a knee injury, is on pace to run for 1,000 yards.

DP - Harris out: What it means for the line(Lindsay Jones)
There is no doubt the Broncos will miss right tackle Ryan Harris, who is not going to be able to play the rest of the season because of the serious injury to his big right toe.

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Kizsla? This guy is such a dumb***

I guess Mark doesn’t watch NFL football, but Sean Payton and the Colts rookie HC (Caldwell) should be the only two coaches considered for coach of the year in 2009.

McDaniels is an absolute success story and even John Clayton is giving him props now. The future does shine bright on young McDaniels. But undefeated is undefeated whereas McDaniels laid a four game stinker in the middle of the season.

I’ll settle for playing well in December and a playoff spot.

This is my favorite website.

by McGeorge on Dec 9, 2009 7:43 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Dunno

Historically, the award seems to go to coaches who exceed expectations, and no team with Brees or Manning is going short on expectations. I’m no fan of Kiszla, but I think he might be on to something.

by Remember Keith Kartz! on Dec 9, 2009 7:48 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Man Bites Dog > Total Excellence, But....

You’re right that novelty and the a-ha factor are overvalued in coach of the year appraisals. But I don’t care who the quarterback is, a team that’s undefeated in December by definition exceeds expectations.

At least the criteria aren’t as stupid and ever-shifting as the nonsense ideologies baseball writers make up every year to explain their ridiculous MVP picks.

by Chibronx on Dec 9, 2009 8:08 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I find it funny that two weeks ago, the MSM was saying McD was a failure that lost the team.

Now, we turn around and call for McD to be coach of the year?

My oh my, do they forget quickly or what?

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.

by kentuckybronco on Dec 9, 2009 8:16 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah really.

Fortuantly I don’t let them get back on the bus. I just tell them “nice try though.”

2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Dec 9, 2009 11:20 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Word.

They can’t just repopulate the bandwagon. Either stay on or stay off. The bandwagon won’t slow down for jumpers on or off.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.

by kentuckybronco on Dec 9, 2009 11:46 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Guru.

To put Harris on IR, who will they bring up from the practice squad or sign for the rest of the season?

by precisiontint on Dec 9, 2009 7:44 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks John

Help me — I may be losing my mind. I could swear that Champ has played on the coverage teams before, and the only thing that’s changed now is that the Heathers in the MSM have found a new story to push.

by Chibronx on Dec 9, 2009 8:01 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I remember there being a time a couple of years ago

when we were in the ST pits of the late Shanahan years, that Champ was the only guy making tackles on kick returns. Thank goodness for Larsen, Reid, Bruton et al

by djmbluemoon on Dec 9, 2009 8:07 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

The selfish, they're all standing in line
Faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
Me, I figure as each breath goes by
I only own my mind-- Pearl Jam, "I am Mine"

by PredominantlyOrange on Dec 9, 2009 8:35 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Goodman was out there during the Chieks game too.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Dec 9, 2009 9:59 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for Horse Tracks John...

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Dec 9, 2009 8:26 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Polumbus

His improvement, while he’s not as good as Harris, means we can keep Clady and Kuper for the longhaul, in my opinion. Polumbus won’t command as much of a contract as Harris would. I love Harris, but not as much as I love Clady and Kuper.

"I intend to kick your ass today." - Denver Broncos legend Tom Jackson

by wtnelson on Dec 9, 2009 8:36 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

I have been paying as much attention to the O Line this year as I possibly can and I think you are spot on.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:09 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

re: Polumbus contract status

Polumbus becomes an ERFA (exclusive rights FA) once his contract is up. In essence, we have him for an additional year after his contract expires.

From what I’ve heard, backup LTs are a valuable commodity — especially cheap ones — so Polumbus’ value is higher than one would expect for a former CFA (college free agent). That value — oddly — doesn’t fully translate into dollars (although he’ll certainly make more, of course).

While I don’t endorse the idea of underpaying players, there’s a benefit to having a player who can perform an important function on the team at a reasonable price. Teams need backups who can perform when their time has arrived. Teams can insulate themselves to a certain degree by acquiring more talent, just is case of injury, but paying top talent to sit on the bench is a waste of money as well as talent. Cap logic says that you need to use the talent you’re paying. The same monies being spent on reserve talent could be applied to another area of the roster that contributes in a more ‘impact-ful’ way. There’s a sweet spot somewhere in-between paying a high-priced backup who sits and being unprepared for injuries because the backup is cheap but commensurately untalented.

‘Cap logic’ is poorly understood. A fine example of this is the signing of Haynesworth, whose ability is unquestionable, but his 100 million dollar price tag doesn’t fit within the restrictions of cost-effectiveness. Even though 2010 may become an uncapped year, the mathematics of cost-effectiveness don’t change appreciably. Teams that spend wisely will still be rewarded for their efforts. Moreover, not every team will have unlimited funds to spend anyways, whether there’s a cap or not.

My point is simple — players such as Polumbus play important roles on the team even though his salary and talent level are not among the league’s elite. Another player is this catergory is Haggan, which is undoubtedly why we re-signed him before the start of the season. In order to build a successful team, we need to find the Polumbuses and Haggans. They’re as important as the stars on the team, albeit in a slightly different way. My philosophy is that you build from the bottom up. Backup performers and STs may not appear important but they invariably come into play (so to speak). Teams win, not simply because of their stars, but because they’re able to withstand adverse conditions that reveal the quality with which they’re constructed. All teams lose players to injury but the better ones weather the losses and succeed despite them. And this is often because the lesser names on the roster can contribute once disaster strikes.

no goats, no glory.

by Colinski on Dec 9, 2009 12:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

I like your thought process Colinski. I always read your comments because I learn so much. Thanks again

by papasteven on Dec 9, 2009 2:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Dec 9, 2009 8:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure when Harris’s contract is up. But you have to wonder much the team would invest in a guy who’s been healthy for about 45% of his NFL career.

by Chibronx on Dec 9, 2009 8:38 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

it is a concern

It’s premature bail out on him because of two — apparently — unrelated injuries but we still have to cover ourselves.

I see a possible silver lining in that it may make our decision of how to use our 1st draft pick easier. There are some talented OTs around the point when we’ll pick.

The desiderata for a 1st pick are, roughly, 1.) impact, and 2.) value. OT is an impact position that also holds value, because of demand, longevity, low risk, and positional impact, but the real question is — do you want to overpay a backup? In other words, they’re valuable as long as they see playing time. The only position that’s valuable as a reserve (i.e., emergency duty) is backup QB. But backup OTs come close, if they can play LT.

Uncertainty over Harris’ health creates a justification for adding a quality backup OT. As I’ve said recently, we were weak at backup OT (although I’m not discounting Polumbus’ chances of succeeding). Ideally, we’d like to have one quality backup at OT. Polumbus may become that player but his presence doesn’t preclude adding another one, especially since it’s also preferable to have two backups at OT, and Polumbus’ salary make him an excellent candidate for backup depth. If he exceeds expectations then it’s ‘just gravy.’

This draft is shaping up very much like the last, in that the special talents worthy of a high pick don’t (or didn’t until Harris’ injury) match up well with our needs. We picked Moreno because of this reason last year. Even though the defense was our priority, there wasn’t a good fit between what was available and our needs. Some of the higher ranked defensive players would have been poor positional fits. And some of the players were at lower impact positions, such as MLB, Safety, etc. A very special player at those positions could merit being selected but #12 was too high for player such as Maualuga, despite his appeal to many here. The availability of a player such as Curry would have given us justification for his selection but he was gone. And the DLs that we would have taken— Raji and Jackson — were also gone.

There are other players who appear to be worthy of a high pick ( ~ #10 – #12), so I don’t want to overemphasize this point, but I already noted that OT was a position that held potential because one higher ranked prospect might drop to us. And there’s even some prospects who play RG/RT that could fill OG while providing depth at OT (another of my proposals).

TRENT WILLIAMS

BRYAN BULAGA

Also —

ANTHONY DAVIS

There’s some more who fit, although not necessarily in the 1st, so this list isn’t inclusive of all the possibilities.

There’s sufficient justification now to look at OT as a serious option in the 1st but at the very least it makes selecting an OL higher in the draft a greater priority.

no goats, no glory.

by Colinski on Dec 9, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Kizsla

When did Chicago get our first round pick? They were salivating at it being a top 5 pick according to you. What’s the deal with this guy. How could you say you cover the Broncos, in Denver mind you, and not know anything about the team. What is wrong with the DP that they employ hacks like this.

by T.Dot_Bronco on Dec 9, 2009 9:05 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Was thinking the same thing,

I had to read it like 4 times to comprehend what he was saying, then I followed it up with “what an idiot.”

Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009

by diviesti on Dec 9, 2009 10:21 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...good luck...

Finding anyone who’ll admit it now.

For everybody who cursed this young football coach for trading Jay Cutler, condemned his draft picks as madness or demanded he be fired before his first game on the Broncos’ sideline, it’s time to consider calling Josh McDaniels a new name:

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Dec 9, 2009 9:05 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Although...

…let’s wait and see how this season ends before we crown him. LOL

Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.

by TheMastermind on Dec 9, 2009 9:07 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

DP
The Broncos started this season with its entire offensive line in tact[sic] from 2008

Maybe the Post’s editing is in-ept.

no goats, no glory.

by Colinski on Dec 9, 2009 10:38 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

In-ept?

Or in ept? Y’know, fitting with in tact.

- Nick

"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.

by ncm42 on Dec 9, 2009 12:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

question:

How does Ocho Cinco get fined over half of what Flozell Scumbag Adams for a fun celebratory act after a TD… as opposed to a malicious act that could’ve potentially hurt another player?

/rhetorical question

Ugh…

I used to not really like Chad, but now I just find him awesome. The man’s just out there to have fun and is having fun the way he wants to have fun. He is the NFL’s proverbial rebel-with-a-cause. Fight the man, Chad, fight the man…

Apparently, now he is planning on blowing the Viking’s annoying-as-heck horn next week if he scores. I think … that … will … be … HILARIOUS.

PS: Flozell is indeed a total douche.

by tunga77 on Dec 9, 2009 11:26 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

That's a disgrace.

By season’s end, Ocho will probably have more fine totals than any of the other players in the NFL, which is ridiculous. Someone needs to compile the fines so we can compare. Ocho isn’t a bad guy, he’s just having fun. I think it is ridiculous to have cell phone celebrations or sharpies, but what Chad does is usually fun and in good taste. “usually”. I definitely think that if someone goes after another player and puts another player in danger, that fine should be significantly higher than a celebration penalty that doesn’t harm anyone (maybe the pride of the other team).

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.

by kentuckybronco on Dec 9, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed and agreed

The NFL is America’s #1 sport, but sometimes it really gets on my nerves.

by tunga77 on Dec 9, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Air time Statistics

From Legwold:

“In a pass-happy season, the Broncos will have seen most of the league’s best at throwing the ball by the time they finish this season.

Of the NFL’s top 15 teams in passing yards per game the Broncos already have played six — the Patriots, Chargers, Cowboys, Steelers, Giants and Ravens. New England, San Diego, Dallas and Pittsburgh are among the league’s top 10.

The Broncos also will play Indianapolis, who is No. 1 in passing yards per game, Sunday and will face Philadelphia, who is No. 11, Dec. 27."

In other words, over the course of 16 games, 8 of the games will be played against the top 15 passing teams. The other 8 games will be played against the bottom 16 teams. I’m not sure that qualifies as the Broncos having “seen most of the league’s best at throwing the ball”. Change “most” to “half” and you’ve got it right.

by Honroy on Dec 9, 2009 11:51 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

lol

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.

by kentuckybronco on Dec 9, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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