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This offseason outline is predicated upon Denver switching to a 3-4 defense.  Who to cut and or trade is not at the center of my outline. This outline is mainly in regards to player acquisition based upon a pre-draft evaluation of current personnel.  Some tough decisions need to be made but Denver must truly focus on the task ant hand because, as they say, time is wasting.

Here is my 6 point plan.  The "talent board" (click the link below to see it) is a great breakdown of available talent via trade and draft as well as a high level perspective on Denver’s current talent.

Talent Board: http://flickcabin.com/public/view/full/21478

Goal 1: Make a decision on what current players we want at Defensive End, Outside Linebacker, and Inside Linebacker.  McDaniels alluded to this process in his most recent www.denverbroncos.com interview.  Personnel decisions at each position affect the others.  Denver must determine if Jarvis Moss and Elvis Dumervil should be playing OLB or DE.  If it is determined that they should be outside rush ends, then DJ Williams may move inside.  If this happens, Denver will need to determine who will be playing the 5 technique DE position in the 3-4 defense next year.  Denver’s draft priorities in the first half of the draft rest very heavily on this decision.  Also, Denver must have, at very least, an idea of where DJ Williams fits.  He may not be the speed rush OLB that a traditional 3-4 is looking for.  Denver must make a decision to keep him, trade him, or ask him to switch positions.

Goal 2: Make a decision on where Peyton Hillis should spend the bulk of his days in 2009.  Denver must make a decision and stick with it.  The decision greatly affects the outcome of Goal #3.

Free Agency (begins 2/27):

Goal 3: Free Agent RB – I target a Free Agent Running Back because Denver needs a proven commodity in the run game to pair with either Torain or Hillis.  Denver simply needs more talent in the backfield.  There is a glut of Free Agent RBs available this offseason, and my guess is that the bidding for a handful of "top-tier" backs will drive their prices up, so Denver should make their move as soon as possible.  If Denver chooses to use Hillis at FB, then they will need at least a 2-down RB.  If Hillis will be used at RB, then Denver will need a complimentary back.  Denver needs more talent and depth at RB, regardless.  Denver should not concentrate on finding a RB in the first half of the draft because young defenders are a bigger priority and the top tier backs will all be gone by early in the 2nd round, so to have a shot at a top-tier RB in the draft, Denver would have to use a 1st round pick to do so.  Denver cannot afford to miss out on a top 10 college defender with its pick at #12.  If Denver decides that Hillis will play FB or that Hillis is not a 2 or 3 down back, then my ideal RB would be Derrick Ward.  If Denver decides that Hillis is a 2 or 3 down back and should be "the starter" then a player like LaMont Jordan would fit the bill well and Denver will need to look at adding a FB late in the draft of they don’t think Pinnock is the answer or Larsen moves permanently to ILB (although I foresee a Mike Vrabel type goalline package featuring Larsen coming to an offense near you).            

Goal 4: Free Agent S – I target a Free Agent Safety to pair with Josh Barrett and a Safety TBD from the draft.  Denver needs depth at safety, but if Denver can add a known quantity at Safety who is a top-tier player, then they will solve many of their basic problems in both coverage and defending the ground game.  Players of Marquand Manuel and Marlon McCree’s ilk won’t be tolerated in my new scheme.  I frankly don’t know enough about the technical desires of Mike Nolan and McD in regards to a safety to determine which player I would consider signing, but I would guess that Denver would like to have someone physical who has the ability to make a few plays a game, but who is also proven and has a few season under his belt.  There is no shortage of available, proven, and somewhat affordable Safeties in Free Agency this off season and Denver should take advantage of the competition for jobs and probably get somebody for face value.  Denver can still target a Safety in the draft, but this will free up a second round and, depending on who Denver signs, maybe even free up a third round pick as well.            

NFL Draft (begins 4/25):

Goal 5: If BJ Raji is available, however unlikely, draft him.  Attempt to trade up a few spots, but not at the expense of your 2nd round pick.  There is a huge disparity between Raji (#1 NT) and any of the other NTs in the draft and the prospects of finding a Free Agent NT with upside without breaking the bank this offseason are slim.  Denver cannot survive on Defense without someone comfortable in a 3-4 NT.  Denver’s roster has no NT.  Denver can use Powell, Thomas, or Robertson (if he’s resigned) at NT but not as a viable solution for more than a few games covering for an injury.  Powell looks like a player with good upside, but from the film I’ve watched, he would look very good at DE in the 3-4 scheme and coming off of a torn Achilles is no easy task.  The NT position is the main cog of the 3-4 defense and Denver simply doesn’t have anyone who can effectively play the position at a professional level.  If BJ Raji is not available, Denver must target Brace, Terrance Taylor, or Sammie Lee Hill in rounds 3 through 5, but Denver can absolutely not afford to leave New York without a NT on the roster because there is not a realistic possibility that Denver can bring in a Free Agent NT who can contribute immediately (unless Denver buys Haynesworth) and have upside compared to any of the incoming rookie NTs I mentioned above. Glover, Jackson, and Watson are too expensive, old, and unproven compared to the upside and cost of the incoming rookies except for Raji, who, by most accounts is worth the pricetag.  Why would you use a draft pick on an unproven player like Watson, when you could draft a NT and pay him a rookie salary and potentially get better upside for less risk?

Goal 6: Now that Goal 1 has been solved, Denver will have a vacancy or vacancies to fill.  Denver should use their first pick (if BJ Raji is unavailable) to fill one of its vacancies at DE, OLB, or ILB depending upon what personnel has been moved where and who they have most highly rated.  If Raji falls to Denver, Denver should use their 2nd round pick in the very same manner. 

I completely understand that there are exponential possibilities for Denver this offseason.  Denver may take a RB in the first round of their top guys are unavailable.  They could trade down.  I acknowledge the probability that my outline will likely turn out nothing like what actually happens, but I think the market looks right for Denver this offseason.  Fortunately, two of Denver’s biggest need areas have ample supply as of today in the FA market.  If Denver can make some great decisions, they could hypothetically enter draft day with two less needs.  As it stands today, Denver is missing a starter on offense and at least 4 starters on defense, and depending on where the chips fall, possibly up to 5 or 6.  Denver could, with a couple of moves in Free Agency, go into the draft with all 11 starters on offense and looking for 3 or 4 on defense, which is a much less daunting task than is presented today.

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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/02/nfp-prospect-position-rankings-2/

 

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/2009-nfl-draft-value-chart/

 

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/02/nfp-specialized-position-rankings/

 

http://gnb.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=33

 

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super7, your post raises many questions that I hope McD et al have started to answer… Just looking at the 2009 NFL offseason schedule , there’s really not a lot of time between now and the draft.

I’m not knowledgeable enough on all the ins and outs of running an organization, but my gut tells me things have got to be damn busy at the Denver offices.

Feb. 18-24: NFL Scouting Combine, Indianapolis, Ind. (I think the Goodman’s have shown that they weight game tape over combine hype. Although we’re all interested in how guys perform, I’m hoping our scouts/personnel dept use the time wisely to narrow down our list of draft-able players.)

Feb. 19: Deadline for clubs to designate franchise and transition players. (Do we have anyone who might get slapped this year?)

Feb. 26: Deadline for submission of qualifying offers by clubs to their restricted free agents whose contracts have expired and to whom they desire to retain a right of first refusal/compensation.

Feb. 26: Deadline for clubs to submit offer of minimum salary to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with fewer than three seasons of free agency credit whose contracts have expired.

Feb. 27: Veteran free agency signing period begins. (I can’t believe we’re going to have new Broncos, potentially, in a few weeks)

Feb. 27: Trading period begins. (Will we make any moves???)

March 22-25: NFL Annual Meeting, Dana Point, Calif.

April 17: Signing period ends for restricted free agents.

April 24: Deadline for old club to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.

April 25-26: NFL Draft, New York City.

Beware the wrath of a patient adversary.

John C. Calhoun --

by bcfunk on Feb 10, 2009 3:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Nice Post Super 7...

Rec’d

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Feb 10, 2009 3:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Good post Super for sure....

And now I am going to set the cat amongst the pigeons!!!
BJ RAJI DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!! I WILL BE DEVASTATED IF WE DRAFT HIM!!!!!
He is a player that goes missing in most games, one that performed well IN PRACTICE at the Senior Bowl yet went missing….ONCE AGAIN……at game time!!!!
He is going to be a bust, and he will cost us 1st round money for no production. I would rather take Tank Williams.
I look at Carlton Powell vs. BJ Raji and Powell wins on all counts. Powell is a high motor, high character toiler that wins battles at the point of attack even when double teamed. His whole career in college was winning those battles and getting into the backfield. THATS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED IN A NT!
Is Powell the answer? I dont know. But I think he has more upside than BJ Raji, is basically like a free draft pick, can add weight to his frame and is a consistent worker.
Bj Raji has bust written all over him. If we draft him, I will support him, but I dont like him at all for the Broncos!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 10, 2009 3:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Great post Super(rec'd)...one minor disagreement about the NT situation though...

We do not need a dominant NT for our defense to excel. We only need a NT that does his job. If we get that in the draft then that will allow our other great athlete’s to make the plays necessary to win football games. Unless BJ turns out to be the next Albert Haynesworth(which I doubt), then he isn’t worth the first round pick. NT only need to do their job…so long as we can find a guy like that then we have a good defense in 2009. Personally, I like Terrance Taylor…best value for what we actually need out of a NT. That way we can use our first rounder on another high priority position that requires a true every down playmaker. Just my opinion though :)

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 4:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I DON'T disagree

However, what my post says is that if Raji happens to fall to pick 12, taht Denver would take him. Trust me, they would. If I was the Gm, I’d take him too.

He may be an every down playmaker.

Also, we’ll see what happens in the combine and I’m sure much of what’s above will change.

I think Denver must leave NY with a dedicated, experienced NT. There is NO WAY IN HELL Denver doesn’t add one between today and mini-camp.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 4:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, I take that back...

I would LOVE to draft Raji, and that is exactly what I’m saying.

I am sold on Raji, and I don’t care that he have a high motor/high character guy in Powell. He’s not a NT nor was he drafted to be one.

Denver have a great organization and should be able to develop a NT. In fact, I think Raji could be “the guy” for 10 years if he stays healthy.

If Denver has great rush ends or a great ILB, how effective will they be when Powell/Robertson/Thomas or anyone else is laying on his back?

Raji should be a priority HOWWWEEEEEVER, I totally don’t think we’ll get him. I’d bet GB, BUF, or CIN takes him.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 4:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This is exactly why I don't think we can go to a 3-4 (yet at least)

I think it is folly to pay as much as Haynesworth will likely demand, considering the fact that one would want him to become a 3-4 nose tackle. He’s not a NT nor was he drafted to be one. As you’ve stated, nose tackles in the draft thin rather quickly behind Raji, and Raji may not fall to us anyways. When you consider we also need more LBs for a 4-3, it sounds like bad news to me.

I would rather take Thomas, Robertson, Dumervil, Ekuban, Peterson, people we know can play 4-3 and add some players to make a good 4-3 instead of starting from scratch on a 3-4, when there really doesn’t seem to me like we can get a nose tackle (who won’t take 2-3 years to develop), and without that, we fail.

by poorboywilly on Feb 10, 2009 4:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Starting from scratch is probably what we need to do....

Shanny has thoroughly destroyed our defensive identity. Either we start from scratch here or keep trying to plug holes year in and year out….let’s blow it up and start over. It’s the only way to erase Shanny’s destruction. ;-)

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 5:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Very much agreed

This is somewhat like an expansion team except you have a few players to start with (DJ, Champ, last year’s rookies). Denver cannot plug holes. Either way, our D isn’t going to be a top 10 defense in 2009 and we’ll still have holes to fill in 2010, so you have to choose who you want to be: 3-4 defense or 4-3 defense. I think Denver should stay physical and versatile and I think the 3-4 is simply better to compete with the big boys with. Again, just opinion.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 5:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

100% agreed....

3-4 is an agressive, team friendly defense. Jedi said he wants a team concept, with a team that is aggressive on both sides of the ball.
We need to be patient but its going in the right direction.
No chance we trade our 1st for a guy like Vince Wilfork????

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 10, 2009 5:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone is willing

to give up THEIR nose tackle these days and I don’t think Wilfork is worth a top pick, but I’d bet that he’d be VERY overvalued on draft day. Its amazing that Kris Jenkins AND Shaun Rodgers were out there last year.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 5:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And to think we had the chance at Jenkins 2 years ago!!!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 10, 2009 5:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I think that's a good point

I thought about that too, and that’s why I opened with the “predicated upon a switch to a 3-4 defense” line.

Denver is stuck because it has the personnel for a 3-4 at LB and can add a safety for erither alignment. However, as you said, they have no NT.

I wouldn’t pay for Haynsewroth and I will be SHOCKED if Denver does.

I just think that McD + Nolan = 3-4. Maybe a hybrid scheme for a few years is what we’re in store for, but even if we do go hybrid, we still need a NT.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 5:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

But you dont know whether Powell can be a 3-4 guy....

It does not matter what he was drafted for. Thats the old regime. My problems with Raji that it is a HUGE risk reward pick. He has the runs on the board as someone that goes missing VERY often in games. Thats the reason why he was paired next to another space eater in Ron Brace at BC.
If we get him, I hope I am wrong, but all we need is for our NT to go missing in games….it would be a disaster.
We need some one that will never take a play off. Raji aint that guy.
Great comments as always Supe!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 10, 2009 5:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I don’t think we’ll get him and it might takle 2 years for him to blossom, but MY biggest fear is that we’re going to be saying “man, we really need a NT” for the next 4 years and paying for a proven NT through FA is insane in this day’s NFL. You almost HAVE to draft one.

Hell, Jamal Williams was drafted in the 2nd round of the SUPPLEMENTAL draft, so there are good ones out there.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 5:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

For sure...

Wahts your take on Sammie Lee Hill and Fili Moala. Fili is cousin of Ngata so its in his breeding.
Fili can add some weight and he is a pretty agile big fella. I think he has some potential!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 10, 2009 5:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not the expert on him BUT...

From what I’ve read he projects to a 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE. He’s sub 300lbs and wasn’t notable when Sedrick Ellis was there and we all know about Ellis’ NFL achievements.

He got in a bar fight about a year ago too and the word on the street is that if he didn’t play for SC, he’d be a late rounder.

What I’m saying is that I don’t know. I’ve heard that Taylor and Hill are better value, but you know, and I know that it’s a crapshoot. I guess we’ll see.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 5:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's some info on him....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/417031

Seems like he could add weight to his frame and SEEMS to have the attributes we might need in a NT.

I like the lineage….Ngata is a beast.

Anyway, check it out at your leisure!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 10, 2009 5:21 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the lineage too!

I like some of what he brings to the table and don’t really care about QB pressure, but he has to be able to maul a double team or at least cuk up 2 guys. If he can’t do that, he’s not a NT.

I’m really excited to see what happens with guys like him, he’s one of those guys from a good D that we’ll look back and either say "wow, he was one of the unsung guys who made Maulauaga and Matthews and Cushing look GREAT …or… we might say, wow, that guy only got picked in the 2nd round because his LBs were sweet.

by super7 on Feb 10, 2009 5:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

From http://virginiatech.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=1618#scouting

The good: Powell has adequate size and good mobility/quickness, which should help him continue to develop as an NFL prospect. He has a fine short-area burst, which allows him to split gaps and find his way into the backfield. His skills fit schemes similar to what the Colts and Buccaneers run.

The bad: He might be limited to playing in a 4-3 as a pro. His size isn’t terrible, but it’s not necessarily ideal, either. Powell needs to get off blockers better and usually needs to win early during the down. When he is slow to react he gets washed out too often at the point of attack.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 5:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Your logic is undeniable.

There is no way in hell we don’t get a NT somewhere. My hope is that we don’t get BJ though…either way I trust the Goodmans.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 4:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We will get an NT, and i think Jedi McD's interview lends credence to this argument....

We will be a hybrid scheme, that adapts to the opposition we are playing, on both sides of the ball.
I think we will need a NT/ BIG DT type(S) for this.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 10, 2009 5:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

OLBs

I would love to see production out of Elvis this year whether its at OLB or DE, I think he can be a contributor. I would love to experiment and see him at OLB for some of preseason.

I also like Cushing from USC for OLB (as 2nd or 3rd rounder) and I wouldn’t be surpised if we took Maulaluga from USC in the first round if Raji is off the board.

by bronco aj on Feb 12, 2009 11:50 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't either

I could see Denver going:
1) Maulaluga/Cushing (Inside)
2) Stintm (Outside) or Brace (NT)

or…

1) Orakpo/Brown (Outside)
2) Maybin/Lauranitis (Inside)

or..

well, hell, I could od this all day

by super7 on Feb 12, 2009 3:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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