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Salary Cap Irritations

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but I found this on Rocky Mountain News' website and felt the need to share it:

Pos. Player 2009 cap figure
DT Dewayne Robertson $16,000,000
CB Champ Bailey $13,668,525
LB D.J. Williams $11,634,500
CB Dre' Bly $6,800,000
TE Daniel Graham $6,650,000
G Ben Hamilton $4,484,000
LB Boss Bailey $3,855,000
WR Brandon Stokley $3,785,416
RB *Travis Henry $3,600,000
LB Niko Koutouvides $3,061,666
QB Jay Cutler $2,712,500
LB Jamie Winborn $2,250,000
DE John Engelberger $2,185,000
T Ryan Clady $2,141,250
DE Jarvis Moss $1,900,000
WR *Keary Colbert $1,666,667
C Casey Wiegmann $1,350,000
S Marquand Manuel $1,333,333

What the hell!?   DeWayne Robertson is NOT worth $16,000,000...he isn't worth $4,000,000 to me for the amount of playing time he had last season.  Mike Shanahan is a damn fool for bringing him in with that much of a price tag.  The only other thing that bothers me is Travis Henry....man we have a lot of dead weight on our salary cap.  I hope Xanders and McD are better stewards of the future for our team. 

Hell, if Robertson is worth $16,000,000 then they need to pay me a $150,000 for just being a fan.  :P   Seeing his name at the top is very irritating for me....

Star-divide

Update.  Using the same article I found some interesting tidbits that pleased me:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2009/feb/12/legwold-nfl-housecleaning-begins/

 

* They currently have 18 players slated to count at least $1 million each against the 2009 salary cap.

* Ten of those players are on defense, where the Broncos finished at or near the bottom in every major category in 2008.

Leading the way is defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson, whose bonus-heavy deal is set to count $16 million against the cap in '09 unless the Broncos redo it or release him. So most in the league believe he will not be on the roster under his current contract next month.

* Two players among the 18 are no longer with the team - running back Travis Henry and wide receiver Keary Colbert. They will count $3.6 million and $1,667,000 against the '09 cap despite having no chance to play a snap for the team.

Henry, who is facing federal drug charges, last played for the Broncos in 2007, yet his cap figure still is the ninth-highest on the team.

* Five players on the list who were on the roster and healthy did not start the season finale in December - Brandon Stokley ($3,785,000 against the cap), Niko Koutouvides ($3.06 million), John Engelberger ($2,185,000), Jarvis Moss ($1.9 million) and Marquand Manuel ($1.33 million).

Of that group, only Stokley is considered to be an "impact" contributor by rival personnel executives.

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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I had to rant....I couldn't help it. :)

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 13, 2009 11:51 AM MST reply actions  

Zappa, don't they make a cream for Salary Cap irritations?

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Feb 13, 2009 6:34 PM MST up reply actions  

No, but they got a strong ointment.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 14, 2009 2:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Requires a prescription tho

Symptoms may include headaches, nausea, depressed mood, vomiting, and … more irritation.

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 14, 2009 8:13 AM MST up reply actions  

along with diarrea and erectile dysfunction.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 14, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Note the wording

Unless the Broncos redo or release him…There is no way they were ever going to pay him that much. It was always a cheapie one year deal with a ’We’ll see how you do" on the end.

I’m pretty sure Cutler’s agent has this hanging on the wall next to his shaving mirror with such illuminaries as Travis Henry, Niko and Boss outweighing Jay. Actually, the only thing it lacks is seeing the hit we’ll take if we cut or trade Bly, Champ, etc. DJ is a vast hit for a guy who had an awful year, but again, I don’t know what it would be to cut or trade 9obviously trade) him. Some of our members do, though. Guys?

Couldn't You Guys Play Nice?

by Doc Bear on Feb 13, 2009 12:09 PM MST reply actions  

We gotta keep DJ.

What do you expect him to do with playing a different position every year? He was bound to stumble eventually. lol I agree with you about everything else though :)

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 13, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Could not agree MORE

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 13, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

DJ is currently my favorite player on the Broncos

so for a biased opinion what are the thoughts of this dream line up:

WSOLB- Wesley Woodyard
WSILB – DJ Williams
SSILB- Rey Maualuga
SSOLB – Brain Cushing/ Aaron Curry (its a dream remember)

" He goes against Champ everyday." -Jay Cutler

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 13, 2009 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know where they get there numbers but....

Robertson signed a back-end loaded $24million contract for six years. I show that he gets $900,000 in salary for 2009 plus a roster bonus of $4mill if he’s still on the team on 3/3. His cap hit is only $3mill in 2009 NOT $16mill. If he’s cut before 3/3 there’s a $2.5 mill hit. My guess is they are evaluating draft/FA prospects before deciding whether to cut him or not.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 13, 2009 12:09 PM MST reply actions  

does RMN have access to stuff we don't?

Or are they just incompetent?

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 13, 2009 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe

they’re trying to save their bacon by going tabloid and sensationalizing everything.

Suggested headline: Barrell Man Abducted by Alien Jesus Lizard Baby

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 13, 2009 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

From RotoWorld
Dewayne Robertson Defensive Lineman
4/23/2008: Signed a six-year, $24 million contract. The deal included a $3.1 million roster bonus in the first year. 2009: $900,000 (+ $4 million roster bonus due 3/3), 2010: $2 million, 2011: $2.6 million, 2012-2013: $3 million, 2014: Free Agent

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 13, 2009 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

You should totally send that link to RMN.

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 13, 2009 3:09 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Other issues....

Travis Henry is a June roster cut. That rule allows a team to spread the cap hit for cut players over two years.
Colbert is an example of the same since he was traded after June 1.
Their # on DJ looks about 2x two high. He signed a 6-year deal for $32mill. His cap hit should be between just under $7mill.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 13, 2009 12:15 PM MST reply actions  

I've found an article from by John Miller of DraftSharks.com posted several places

It ranks teams by their expected cap space. Here’s the good part:

3. Denver — $34m under – New coach Josh McDaniels has needs everywhere, primarily on defense. This unit could see a massive slash-fest that frees up another $15m or so, giving them near $50m to spend! S Marlon McCree, S Marquand Manuel, LB Nate Webster, LB Boss Bailey, DE Ebenezer Ekuban, & DT Dewayne Robertson are just 6 of maybe 10-12 defense cap-cuts. McDaniels won’t leave offense off his wish list since he’s holding a platinum credit card. Free-agent RB Derrick Ward is a perfect fit. They have 2 great WRs in Brandon Marshall & Eddie Royal, but what about adding WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh? McDaniels witnessed T.J. burning New England for 26 catches, 340 yards and 1 TD in the last 3 meetings.

by jack_ on Feb 13, 2009 12:42 PM MST reply actions  

Perhaps even better

28. Oakland — $4m under – Ouch, CB DeAngelo Hall counts $5m in dead money after being cut. To make it worse he suddenly played like a Pro Bowler again in Washington. WR Javon Walker has a $5m roster bonus due next month. He’ll actually collect it because of an injury guarantee – and his cap hit is $14m if they cut him. Stupid contracts, Al. OT Robert Gallery will have to rework his deal to shave off his $9.2m cap charge.

by jack_ on Feb 13, 2009 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice!!

Its like John Miller stubled upon my wish list!

by super7 on Feb 13, 2009 12:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Just Ward...

And dumping Bailey, D-Rob, Webster, Manual, McCree, and Ekuban

by super7 on Feb 13, 2009 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I just don't think Bowlen has that cash just lying around.

Being under the cap and having the money to spend are two different things.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 13, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I wasn't suggesting that we'd cut every significant contract and then go on a spending spree

but at least we aren’t limited in that regard.
We shouldn’t be looking to fill up all or most of that space, anyways- before long, we’re going to have to be signing bigger contracts for the 2006 draftees, and that will take up a fair amount.

by jack_ on Feb 13, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, it would be nice to see Bowlen set the organization up to lock in long term deals on all or most of our young stars

this year and next…

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 13, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Travis Henry

This one blows my mind. I didn’t follow the details of his contract as it was restructured last year, but even though he was eventually exonerated…. what in the @*#!! were we thinking not conditioning the entire sum of his contract on whether or not he would stay away from pot???

I know he was exonerated in court for that weird testing incident. But the fact remains that even before he was signed he had a history.

What bothers me is that the Broncos let him go June 2 saying he was inconsistent and lacked motivation (hmmm, remind you of anything?). It turns out that a few weeks earlier, he had tested positive for marijuana … but the Broncos didn’t find out until after they cut him. Now we’re on the HOOK??

Not sure I’d be paying him a red cent. The odor of this one continues to linger.

Thanks, Zappa, for giving us the occasion to vent a little here. My weekend is looking a little happier now.

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 13, 2009 1:44 PM MST reply actions  

I'd be okay paying Travis Henry's salary...IF every dime was split and sent to is 475 children.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 13, 2009 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

+3,000,000

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 13, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Did he use POWERTHIRST to make his children??

Just kidding.

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by papigrande on Feb 13, 2009 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes

But the Broncos weren’t told until after they cut him. ; )

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 13, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder if he was rickrolled by all of these women. lol

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 13, 2009 4:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha wow...

I’d LOVE to make that much money doing nothing. Completely forgot about that one small extra name on the cap list. Thanks for reminding me.

by phantom818 on Feb 14, 2009 8:40 AM MST up reply actions  

Actually he's not making that now....

that’s a bonus that was paid to him in 2007. It just gets spread over multiple years under the cap rules. He’s not actually getting a dime form the Broncos.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 14, 2009 9:10 AM MST up reply actions  

He already got the dime.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 14, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions  

There is no way that Robertson figure is correct

Maybe that was the amount he would have counted on Jets cap, he was supposed to have a huge bonus.

However, keep in mind that his playing time last year was specifically designed to keep from having to give the Jets as much as a 2nd round pick, which apparently would have been sent if his playing time and stats reached some threshold. As it stands, Robertson played less than 65% of the snaps and thus the Jets got the following:

A SACK FULL OF NOTHING. Suck it Jets.

by poorboywilly on Feb 14, 2009 4:58 PM MST reply actions  

The money is theoretical....

Teams usually spend pretty close to what they have regardless of the cap….the cap used to mean something but it is so high now that most small market teams can’t come close to it.

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 16, 2009 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

The salary cap...

is an artificial number loosely connected to contracts. The Broncos organization does get to keep any revenue after expenses whihc includes salaries and bonuses. But Pat Bowlen doesn’t get the money. Pat is just the majority owner or a corporation called Denver Broncos Football which has other minor owners such as John Elway. The owners can choose to distribute profits to themselves (not usually) or to retain earnings (keeping the money with the team). PB also get a salary as the president of the team.

Most of what team owners make is the increase in value of the franchise. The reason a guy like Ralph Wilson is crying (even though he made to HoF WTF) is that he can’t generate enough income from his team to support him in the lifestyle he would like to be accustomed to without selling the team. It really isn’t a small market/big market issue. It’s an issue of which owners don’t need to make any money off their teams, e.g. Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones, even Pat Bowlen, and which owners are not as independently wealthy as they would like to be. Pittsburgh is a small market team but it hasn’t hindered them.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, most of my salary cap irritations have been cut.

This post is now closed. ;-)

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 17, 2009 2:05 PM MST reply actions  

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