MHR 2008 Position Reviews -- Tight End
The first thing one notices about the TEs in Denver is that there are two exceptional ones. Graham and Scheffler are a great duo, each with advantages and disadvantages. Together, they helped the Broncos offense when it shined, and had little to do with offensive shortcomings in 2008.
With two players at TE that could start for most teams, Denver is pretty lucky. But Denver also has had effective #3 TEs ranging from a terrific run blocker in Mustard (who, like Graham, is proving he can catch) to Jackson (a pure catcher).
The Review
Scheffler is a 25 year-old TE in his 3rd year. He is a magnificent receiving TE, with a combination of good hands, speed, power and agility. His salary was only around $612,000 in 2008. His run-blocking and pass-blocking skills are above-average, but not excellent. He is hampered by a foot injury that has cost him a bit of playing time.
From FoxSports.com comes the following chart:
Regular Season
CAREER SEASON STATS RECEIVING RUSHING FUMBLES Season Team G GS REC YDS AVG LNG TD ATT YDS AVG TD FUM LOST 2006 Broncos 13 5 18 286 15.9 29 4 1 3 3.0 0 0 0 2007 Broncos 16 7 49 549 11.2 41 5 0 0 0.0 0 1 1 2008 Broncos 13 7 40 645 16.1 72 3 1 -1 -1.0 0 1 1 Career 42 19 107 1480 13.8 72 12 2 2 1.0 0 2 2
Graham is a 30 year-old in his 7th year. While many saw him as the best blocking TE in football, there was a rumor that he was being brought to Denver to catch passes. Flubbing a couple of passes in his first year with Denver, many fans gave up too soon. But Graham's blocking skills (a skill perhaps valued by coaches and players more than fans) remains elite, and Graham went on to prove that he is a very effective receiver. Graham is a double-threat whenever he hits the field.
From FoxSports.com comes the following chart:
Regular Season
| CAREER SEASON STATS | ||||||||||||||||||||
| RECEIVING | RUSHING | FUMBLES | ||||||||||||||||||
| Season | Team | G | GS | REC | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | ATT | YDS | AVG | TD | FUM | LOST | ||||||
| 2002 | Patriots | 12 | 6 | 15 | 150 | 10.0 | 31 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||
| 2003 | Patriots | 14 | 9 | 38 | 409 | 10.8 | 38 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||
| 2004 | Patriots | 14 | 14 | 30 | 364 | 12.1 | 48 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||
| 2005 | Patriots | 11 | 9 | 16 | 235 | 14.7 | 45 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | ||||||
| 2006 | Patriots | 12 | 11 | 21 | 235 | 11.2 | 29 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | ||||||
| 2007 | Broncos | 15 | 15 | 24 | 246 | 10.3 | 28 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||
| 2008 | Broncos | 16 | 16 | 32 | 389 | 12.2 | 28 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||||||
| Career | 94 | 80 | 176 | 2028 | 11.5 | 48 | 23 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | |||||||
What did this mean for Denver in 2008, and what will it mean moving forward?
In 2008, Denver's offense was both explosive (gaining multiple yards in the air game), and disappointing (red zone issues and key interceptions). Despite the issues with injured RBs, the offensive line (with close TE support) kept the Broncos' OL producing. Denver's offensive tackles absolutely shined in '08 in pass-protection, with at least one TE pass-blocking on most plays.
As a group, the TEs also were responsible for their share of first downs in the air, TDs, yards and value as "safety valves" for Jay Cutler whenever he was under pressure.
Because Denver boasted two starting quality TEs, the team could play a deadly two-TE set, allowing protection from 3-4 defenses while adding complexity to whether the offense was using players as blockers or receivers.
The Future
Moving forward, the team has a lot to smile about, but a little to worry about, too.
Positives -
1) The team retains the dynamic duo of Graham (#1 TE) and Scheff (#2) in 2009. That's the best news so far.
2) Both players are being paid below their worth.
Negatives -
1) Graham will be getting older. His route-running skills will improve, and he shows no signs of slowing, but he won't be around forever.
2) While Scheff is young and can stick around for a while with the team, he can't be counted on to play every game. Injuries other than foot injuries could be attributed to how he compensates for his foot (as has been discussed by MHR resident physician BroncoBear).
All in all, Denver is fortunate at the TE position and has time to worry it further down the road. #3 TE Mustard is an above-average blocker (even for a starter), and his receiving skills continue to improve. But, he is a year older than than Graham.
Grades
I would give Denver an "A" in 2008 for the TE position. I project the same grade for 2009. The defense will likely get the most attention this reloading season, but most of the offense (including key retirement candidate OC Wiegmann) should return.
What are your thoughts on Denver at TE?
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Comments
Mustard got released, right?
I am for picking up a TE in this draft.
This is a deep TE class and I like Chase Coffman in the 3rd. he has a lot of upside, and would be a good one to have waiting in the wings when DG is done.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I was wondering the same thing
You mean they signed him back already?? LOL
Agree with Boydy about picking up a promising young TE this year, so long as there aren’t better selections that can be made on D with the same pick.
Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne
by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 8:21 AM MST up reply actions
Yes, Mustard isn't with the team.
On the other hand, I wrote the article before his release.
: )
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 16, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions
Stay tuned...
he seems to keep coming back.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 5:49 PM MST up reply actions
Yep
I bet he makes it back before Jackson.
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
Hillis=Cowbell. You can’t have too much. styg 01/29/09
While I'm on a roll...
I’ll bet neither comes back. A new coach and a new GM likley signals (at least to me) that there is no “bond” to Jackson or Mustard that would keep the two coming back, leaving, and coming back over time. Just my guess.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 17, 2009 12:47 PM MST up reply actions
ditto
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 17, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
The bond
That’s a good point, HT. One of the hallmarks of the NE approach has been a near total lack of emotion in personnel issues. The player is a good investment or not a good investment at the position and skills. Nothing more. I suspect we’ll see a lot of that now, and as a team-building approach it has a lot fo be said for it.
Hillis in '09
Graham
I don’t understand all the comments about his age, and how he won’t be around forever, and let’s get a guy now for when he’s not around. He’s only in his 7th year while, for example, Tony Gonzales is in his 12th, and still going strong. Graham keeps himself in shape (it seems), as we don’t hear about him out carousing at all hours. By all means, keep an eye out for a young guy, but to replace Mustard and Jackson, not Graham.
Truly the light is sweet, and a pleasant thing it is for my eyes to behold the sun.
Ecclesiastes
I think this is it for Jackson
one slip up under Jedi and Jackson and all his potential are out of here.
Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 16, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions
Agreed.
I think Shanny had a soft spot for Jackson. The incoming crew won’t.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 16, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions
And no sooner do we note this
he gets canned on a Miserable Monday. Good luck in the future Nate, try to stay healthy.
Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 16, 2009 6:25 PM MST up reply actions
is it as miserable in southeast as south central?
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:26 PM MST up reply actions
very old
but an otherwise beautiful day!
Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 16, 2009 6:28 PM MST up reply actions
old=cold
Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 16, 2009 6:28 PM MST up reply actions
its about 40 here but the friggin snow wont stop!
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:32 PM MST up reply actions
its about 40 here but the friggin snow wont stop!
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:33 PM MST up reply actions
Sunshine, birds and girls in bikini's
here in SouthCentral
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
Hillis=Cowbell. You can’t have too much. styg 01/29/09
Yeah well
Cordova is technically SC but the weather isnt like that stupid eyak mt!
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:39 PM MST up reply actions
Damn!
No sooner do I disagree with you than he gets canned before that first slip up.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
I wasn't aware that he had slipped up previously
He’s gotten injured each year, which was unfortunate for him but opened the door for Scheffler. With Scheffler appearing (to me) to be past his foot problems, Jackson makes a fine receiving backup.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
yes
slip-up carries the wrong connotation, since it implies something you purposefully do. Slipping may have been better, since one can slip through no fault of their own. Injuries were all I was really referring to, although something could be said for his stellar practices and preseasons followed by dud in-season games, where he wasnt hurt. They may not be inseparable ideas though.
Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 16, 2009 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
I dont think HT was saying DG is old
I believe he was advocating for finding a good replacement. Graham is 30 or so this year. most NFL players with sense (Favre?) don’t play until they are 40. 35-38 seems to be about the ceiling. looking at that bringing in a younger guy this year would be smart business
" He goes against Champ everyday." -Jay Cutler
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
You reflected my opinion perfectly Jon.
Graham is still one of the best. My only point is that he isn’t getting younger, and we need to start planning ahead.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 16, 2009 3:37 PM MST up reply actions
I like to think I have
payed attention in class at MHR U enough to understand where you come from. Even if sometimes (unlike this time) I disagree
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions
If you always agreed with me...
…that would mean you haven’t picked up a darned thing! Very little of football strategy is a matter of “right” and “wrong”. While I hate the general concept of relativism, football strategy is often a question of taste or style. (Still, it’s good to know that you agree with me on this one). : )
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 16, 2009 4:30 PM MST up reply actions
How can I disagree
DG is probably the best blocking TE in the game!
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 4:37 PM MST up reply actions
A very basic definition..
is that relativism is the belief that there is no good or evil, because it depends on perspective. (It is much deeper than that, and as Spock points out, there is some merit to it if discussed in depth). As a rule, most theists would believe that there ae clearly defined markers for defining good and evil.
I come from a school of thought that there is such a thing as pure evil and pure good, and they can be defined. A relativist might say that there is justification for 9/11 if one looks through the view of the perpetrators, while I would argue that a truly nuetral observation would clearly define the acts as evil. But again, the philisophical debate is much deeper than that, and being a relativist doesn’t mean one supports evil (or the acts of 9/11 for that matter).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 17, 2009 12:58 PM MST up reply actions
Hey!
I’m pretty well versed in the philosophy of science and I don’t think relativism is in all contexts the unmixed evil some philosophers often make it out to be. Perhaps that’s because I’m partial to the social constructionist school of thought, albeit not to the sometimes silly extreme represented by, for instance, Bruno Latour.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Sure, we don't want to wait until the last minute
but given that Graham probably has at least five to eight years of good production what’s the hurry? Given our voluminous needs elsewhere, can we afford the luxury of spending a draft pick on one of the strongest and deepest positions on the team?
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
I guess we will find out
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:16 PM MST up reply actions
Spock
I wouldn’t spend a pick right now (with so many needs elsewhere), but if a value pick dropped to us that was the best available, it would be nice to have an excellent #3. Now that Mustard and Jackson are gone, we have no injury back-up option for a two TE set when facing 3-4 in a game.
But 9 times out of 10, I don’t think I would go TE this draft.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 17, 2009 1:09 PM MST up reply actions
Mustard is gone
but the Broncos are left with a formidable trio in Graham, Scheffler, and Jackson.
Graham isn’t going anywhere soon, with the way he can block. I don’t see the Broncos giving the TE position a sniff in the draft, with as strong as it is and the pressing needs at other positions. That would be like having an over payment to the gas company on the books and making a payment to them, anyway, while the electric is about to be shut off.
Between the TEs and WRs the Broncos already have, they are going to drive opponents crazy, while we fight for our own sanity when they are on defense . . . unless they fill some holes over there.
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
Nice analogy
Exactly what I was thinking.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Now a formidable two.
G’day, Nate. All the best on the journey, and thanks for the memories
Hillis in '09
love our te situation
considering our defense…it would take a stud te to spend one of our first 5 picks on that position. i would love to have seen what rudy fernandez would have done next in the dunk contest….im a homer but not blind
"show me a good loser and i'll show you a loser" - coach
I think TE is on possition the staff can simply ignore untill 09, 010
With the gaping holes all through the middle of our defence worrying about our tight ends the best tantem in the leage is a bit silly. The idea of grabbing one in the 3rd is nuts. I hope we stay away from a offensive pick untill the 5th. Unless there is to much discretion between what is available on offense verse defense.
Hey Bry...
Once again, it comes back to value of player and what we do in FA.
A guys like Chase C is extremely good value in the 3rd, and we would be silly not to consider him if he is the BPA by a fair margin.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Draft
a late round TE. Davon Drew of East Carolina looked good in the Texas vs Nation game, he’ll probably go earlier now because of it. Rookie FA even.
The only difference between insanity and genius is perception.
Since the TE position is good right now, I wouldn't draft one. If we already have our two starters, what is the point in getting another TE?
Surely that TE won’t be playing until Graham retires or until someone gets hurt. In my opinion, we should stick to drafting defensive players this draft and wait until future years to draft a TE(or at least when we are in dire need of one).
Are you kidding me?
Watson has been a big part of their game.
McD will use them….he has never had a pair like Sheff and Graham, nor an O line lioke ours.
HE WILL USE THEM!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I agree boydy
and the release of Mustard confuses me. Chad is an above average blocker and that is extremely important. I have no issue with bringing in a CFA for competition, but I sure wouldn’t spend a draft choise on a TE when we have so many glaring weaknesses on defense.
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
Hillis=Cowbell. You can’t have too much. styg 01/29/09
I will say it again
Chase Coffman if he shows up it wont be unexpected
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:03 PM MST up reply actions
OK
I sure hope Coffman can Chase down some Defensive Ends!
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
Hillis=Cowbell. You can’t have too much. styg 01/29/09
ha ha
remember last year FF? Eddie who? I just dont want the shock to hit like it did last year! thats all
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:50 PM MST up reply actions
You're right, boydy
McDaniels has never had, um, a pair like he has now.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
PG guys PG
not PG-13
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
I have to very much disagree mauibroncofan
NE is a huge proponent of the TE position (in my opinion). Consider that NE uses three TE sets 2nd only to PITT in frequency (Denver is third, but much less frequent). Consider also that NE at one time had our own Dan Graham lined up across from Watson (the speed demon who brought down Bailey on a giant interception play that went the length of the field) in two TE sets.
I don’t think NE has ever let the TE position lag.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Feb 17, 2009 1:05 PM MST up reply actions
One of my disappointments with Bates...
was that he didn’t make enough use of the mismatches he could have created with the depth at tight end. Imagine putting 3 TEs on the field with Marshall then splitting Sheff out wide.
Or 2TEs and splitting Sheff wide with Royal in slot. (Actually he used this a few times but not enough)
Or 3TEs w/ a FB in short yardage. Then when the defense stacks the line you split Sheff and Hillis out wide.
TE depth opens up so many possibilities to create dilemmas for the defense.
With all the great analyses appearing here
my recommends finger is getting worn down. Great work.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
I am very pleased with out TEs.
McDaniels will be able to get more production from our TEs in 2009 not only because of what he did in NE, but with the all-important Clady at LT. His success allowed DG to be involved more on the passing and I expect it to only get better. I hope Scheffler can have his injuries put aside and play the whole season for once. His great hands and his presence on the field are huge.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
Nice one HT.
I want Bo Scafe on this team. He is the one FA that is worth the money he will earn.
He is young, and he is well rounded. Imagine if adding Graham and Sheffler and dividing it in two. You get this guy. And I think he can be much better if he has a good QB (as opposed to VY).
Note: I don’t think this is wishful thinking. We need another TE given that both Mustard and Jackson have been cut. We aren’t going to draft one. We could sign a scrub to backup, but given Graham and Sheffler’s injury history (each missing a game or two almost every season) we should get some one good.
We also need more veteran presence in the locker-room. This dude can be one.
Go So Cal. I am the bigger one.

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