Shallow Thoughts & Nearsighted Observations
Happy Monday to you, or whatever day it might be as you read this, from the Department of Shallow Thoughts & Nearsighted Observations. It's been a slow news week for the Broncos and the NFL, but that can't slow us down. Ready, begin...
1. I'm a fairly casual NBA fan. When I was a kid, I decided that the Phoenix Suns were going to be my team, because I liked their Point Guard, Kevin Johnson, who is now the Mayor of Sacramento. I also became a big Steve Nash fan when he was a Freshman at Santa Clara, and he hit 8-of-8 from the free throw line, down the stretch to beat Arizona in the NCAA Tournament in 1992. (That was the first time a 15 seed ever beat a 2 seed.) Steve subsequently being a Sun for 2 stints has also made me excited to be a Suns fan over the years.
The Suns are now on the verge of losing me as a fan, because they took what was the equivalent of the Indianapolis Colts of the NBA, and are quickly turning into the Detroit Lions. A great owner, Jerry Colangelo, sold the team to a terrible owner, Robert Sarver. Sarver is cheap, and likes to sell first round picks for $3 Million in cash, which shouldn't even be allowed. Then those first round picks become players like Rajon Rondo and Rudy Fernandez, guys who could help win now. They make desperate trades, trying to get away from the fast-paced, high scoring approach that made them annual contenders, because the punditry decided that offense can't win championships. Now, they aren't contenders, and they're boring to watch. Nash, one of the Top 10 PGs of all-time, is being forced to play a slow and scripted game, which is completely incompatible with what made him great. Now, they're going to fire their first-year coach tomorrow, and probably trade Amare Stoudemire for pennies on the dollar. The whole thing is just atrocious, and I could easily just switch to the Cavs, any moment. I've been toying with buying season tickets anyway.
The reason I bring this up in a football column is that I am a little worried about the direction of the Broncos. I keep trying to convince myself that I shouldn't be, that Pat Bowlen is a great owner, but like Rachel Maddow, I might need to be talked down. Here is the key question in my mind. Is the only reason that we've all thought so much of Pat Bowlen as an owner the fact that he stayed out of the way of Mike Shanahan all these years, and didn't get involved in football decisions? I think the answer to that question is yes, and since he seems to be changing his MO, I can't help but worry that he'll want to start being more involved as a football decision-maker.
I am thankful for Mike Lombardi's work at the National Football Post, because the year he spent in Denver, working for no pay, enables him to provide some real insight into the team. He has often written about how the Broncos have always lacked a coherent holistic player procurement strategy (I would argue that RBs and O-Linemen have been procured in a coherent way, but he's pretty much right about the rest of the team.) He notably disagrees with the Broncos tendency to rely heavily on position analysis from assistant coaches, rather than from scouts. Lombardi is fond of repeating the Bill Walsh mantra, "Players play, coaches coach, and scouts scout."
I think that the Shanahan-era Broncos always tried to find players who they thought might be worth a dollar, but were selling for 50 cents for one reason or another. Think about Maurice Clarett, who spectacularly didn't work out. Another example is Marcus Thomas, who is working out pretty well. The trade for Dewayne Robertson is another example, as is the one for Dre Bly. Behind that approach is the belief that your coaching and your environment will cause those acquisitions to play better for you than they did in the other place, or in the case of Clarett and Thomas, that they'll behave themselves in your place.
The Patriots approach to player procurement is well-documented. They favor high-character, high-intelligence, low-risk players, and they have specific size/speed guidelines in mind for every position. Fits within their schemes are always considered, and versatility is valued highly. They never overpay replaceable players, and they tend to draft to replace those players a year in advance. All of this is demonstrably pretty smart, and we know this is how Josh McDaniels learned the NFL game. It's a Fortune 500 approach in a league of mom-and-pop businesses.
If the Goodman's got whacked because they were resistant to this type of approach, then I am okay with that. If it happened because Pat Bowlen simply wanted to assert his personal dominance over football operations, then I am not. The Broncos' 2008 draft class was the best in the League, and if they were anybody but the Broncos, you would never stop hearing that. I hope our team is in good hands, because unlike with the Suns, I am a Broncos fan for life, and I would hate to see a good thing get ruined.
2. The following are ten offensive Free Agents, who I think should be considered for acquisition.
a. Ryan Fitzpatrick - QB - Cincinnati - A smart and athletic young player, who played pretty well amid tough circumstances for the Bengals last season. He is pretty ideal as a backup, because he has to know that he's just short of starter-caliber. He is young, but has good pro experience.
b. Dan Orlovsky - QB - Detroit - Orlovsky passes the eyeball test when you watch him throw a ball. He has a good arm, and he's a better athlete than he looks. The self-inflicted safety was bad, but he didn't have a lot of playing experience when it happened. He can be a solid backup, especially with good coaching.
c. Michael Pittman - RB - Denver - I'd like to see Michael re-signed. He was excellent as a third-down back and short-yardage runner before he got hurt.
d. JJ Arrington - RB - Arizona - Arrington is a good kick returner, and a solid backup RB. He's a guy who is a contributor to a winning team, like Kevin Faulk. You have to think McDaniels is looking for a guy like Faulk.
e. Jason Wright - RB - Cleveland - I've never understood why this guy doesn't play more. To my eyes, he's a lot better than Jamal Lewis and Jerome Harrison. He's a good-sized back, who runs with power.
f. Jabar Gaffney - WR - New England - He knows the new system, and will come pretty cheaply. Gaffney is a solid outside possession WR.
g. Michael Clayton - WR - Tampa Bay - Clayton had a good rookie year, and then got stuck in Jon Gruden's doghouse for the next 3 years after that. He's big and physical, and you can buy low on him. I've always thought he was better than guys that Gruden had playing key minutes.
h. Devery Henderson - WR - New Orleans - Henderson led the NFL with an average of 24.8 yards per catch in 2008. He's kind of a one-trick pony, but he is a pretty dangerous deep threat. The Broncos will want to stretch the field more than in the past, and don't really have a guy like Henderson.
i. Daniel Wilcox - TE - Baltimore - A solid blocking TE, who would provide good depth behind Tony Scheffler and Daniel Graham.
j. Jake Grove - C - Oakland - Grove is a good backup-type. He can probably get a starter's job somewhere, but he'd be good to have for competition in camp. Since he missed some time in 2008 with injuries, he may be devalued enough to get on a cheap, come-compete-for-a-job kind of deal.
3. Whither the Guru's reaction to Brett Favre's Earth-shattering retirement announcement? I am dying to know what he thinks. :)
4. The Jets are going to suck this year, unless they get a QB, and their only hope to do that is to draft one, and hope for the best. They are terribly positioned for the future, also, because their cap situation is the worst in the NFL. Favre actually did them a giant favor by quitting, from that perspective. Mike Tannenbaum and Eric Mangini mortgaged the future last season, trying to save their own jobs. Mangini took the fall, and then got hired in Cleveland, which is apropos, because there, he has to pay for the Savage/Crennel two-headed monster doing the same thing.
5. I think Favre would be atrocious as a TV personality. I'm virtually positive that that means Fox has offered him a contract to join Curt, Howie, Terry, Jimmy, Michael, Jillian, and the rest of them in the studio by now, and ESPN wants him for the MNF package too. Imagine Brett matching "wits" with Kornheiser.
6. I don't get the appeal of NASCAR. I watched some of the Daytona 500 today, and I just don't get it. I think there is a part of my brain that is missing, or something.
Next week, we'll have combine talk, 10 ideas for defensive player acqusitions, and much more. Have a great week, and we'll see you next Monday morning, with more Shallow Thoughts & Nearsighted Observations.
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2 thoughts...
(1) In a recent local NP article, 2 anonymous “insiders” from the Bowlen offices indicated that the beginning of the end for Shanny was when he recently asked Bowlen to build a new practice facility, leading to the first time Bowlen really said “No” to the Shan-man. I think Bowlen’s smart enough to not tinker too much, but does want be in better control of HIS team.
(2) I belivee that Bowlen is leaning heavily on JMcD in the personnel dept. At first Bowlen expressed what appeared to be full support in his presonnel guys (the Goodmans and Xanders). Now that JMcD has assembled his staff, probably decided on a direction and identity for the Broncos, and has been through some player eval, I’d bet he went to Bowlen and gave him an honest and blunt assessment of the quality- or lack of- on the Bronc’s roster- especially the D. Yes, the Goodmans had a part in recent draft victories, but they have plenty of blunders to account for, too- primarily in the FA arena. And the salary cap, especially on the defensive side, is not all that pretty, considering the low production of the last couple of years. And, so, out with the Goodmans (the last remnants of the Shanny era) and up with Xanders (who came on after last year’s draft).
Bowlen is a smart guy, and he’s already showing that , while he is in charge, he’s going to leave the football decisions to the two young men he’s brought in to transform the team back into a champion. And, he’s simply set up an environment with checks and balances and accountability- and where no one man can wrest the team from him again.
"What do you hear?"
"Nothin' but the rain, sir."
"Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."
by BornOrange on Feb 16, 2009 5:54 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
he’s going to leave the football decisions to the two young men he’s brought in to transform the team back into a champion. And, he’s simply set up an environment with checks and balances and accountability- and where no one man can wrest the team from him again.
Well said, BO.
Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne
by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 8:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post, Ted...
Was it really a slow news week for the Broncos? After my own initial shock, I’d say I’m not so worried – Bowlen is a fine owner and makes excellent decisions. He fired Reeves one year removed from a 3-point loss in the AFC Championship Game and without a viable replacement in wait, or so we thought at the time. As OB points out, Woody Paige alluded to Shanny requesting a new practice facility 4 years after a remodel – sounds like quite an example of hubris on Shanny’s part and it may just be the tip of the iceberg. I doubt it’s the last story we hear about the emperor’s undoing…
I love your mindset regarding free agent candidates. I’m not in the camp hoping for a bunch of major FA signings – the tune in Denver has been “Build Via the Draft” in recent years, and I’d like for it to remain so. Haven’t we all seen enough big FA busts to scare us away from that? Even Niko and Colbert…the Broncos will pay the price for them this year in cap space. I hope folks don’t think that poor FA choices was uniquely Shanahan, and that McDaniels has the magic formula. FA is a dangerous pool in which to go angling, and getting the biggest, most expensive fish is not usually worth the price. I’d like for folks to name the last true big-dollar signing the Titans, Steelers, Giants, Patriots or Panthers made (and which worked out). I can think of Plaxico in NY as the biggest recent signing, and that was actually not a big contract. The Pats have somewhat on Adalius Thomas and Rosevelt Colvin…
I agree with BornOrange – we all need to look at the Goodmans’ full body of work. Yes, it’s hard to say just whom they were responsible for, but I think the ’07 Draft was quite a dud and aside from Graham, how many good FA signings has Denver made in recent years? Casey Wiegmann counts, but he was a late off-season guy who fell into their laps.
by Douglas A. Lee on Feb 16, 2009 6:51 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
BornOrange totally agree....
The “Sky is Falling” approach some have taken on MHR has been really surprisiing to me. There is still a lot of Shanahan defenders out there who will defend his every move.
Heres the reality:
MIKE SHANAHAN LEFT OUR TEAM IN A SHAMBLES. HE WAS A GREAT COACH BUT A HORRENDOUS MANAGER.
I am honestly surprused there was any left overs from the Shanahan era. This was an under acheieving, stodgy reactive franchise led by bad coaching and bad player evaluation.
Lets not forget that the Goodmens, as well as being resposible for the 2008 draft which was great, but also had a big hand in BAD FA axquistions, bad player evelauation of players in 2007 and also had a hand in other questionable decisions.
Pat Bowlen stepped in because he had nop oither choice. NONE.
I think it is rather arrogant of us to question his business acumen, and decision making, and compare him to Jerry Jones or the Sun’s owner. He is neither,and when compared to most people, he is a uber-successful business man, passionate about his team, and well respected in the league.
All of a sudden, we are doubting him because he gets rid of 2 guys whos crowning glory was one draft! ARE YOU KIDDING ME????
The Broncos has the biggest, but worst, coaching staff in the NFL, had a dysfunctional front office and athletic hierachry and we want to get on Bowlen for fixing it, saving money, becoming more involved with HIS team (which was one of his flaws and a big reason this team is in a hole…his management by correspondence approach when SHanahan was in charge) and putting 2 of the smartest and youngest guys in the league in charge of our team. Yeah, Pat Bowlen sucks….how dare he get involved in saving his own sinking ship!
Can anybody out there honestly say that they dont like this coaching staff? Damn, I wish we had them last year…we may have gone to the play offs.
Good post TB, it will illicit a lot of comment, but I for one are sick of people double guessing Bowlen.
We let SHanny off scott free, and forget the mess he left it in, and now doubt the man who built this franchise.
Thats an interesting dycotomy for sure!
And rant is done!
Good list of free agents though. Low money high character guys.
Thanks.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Feb 16, 2009 6:59 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Cleaning up the mess
is exactly what our first year coach and GM will have to do, and likely what they will be judged on in the short term.. I agree with boydy2669 100%.. The more I look at the personnel moves/decisions over the last ten years the more I can honestly say I am REALLY glad to be rid of those Shanahanigans – Bowlen got the right coach: The Goodmans couldn’t draft a defence with 20 picks, good riddance. This team will be way better off for these moves and Pat Bowlen deserves credit for his assertion.
by quarterhorse on Feb 16, 2009 11:01 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post and analysis, Dr. Bartlett
Two thoughts:
(a) i’m torn on the Ramsey thing and voted C only because I have no idea what kind of a fit he will be in the new system. On the one hand, I can see that he seems to be an intelligent, experienced pro and that there may be some benefit to having him and Cut working through the new system together, learning together with the identical context of starting off together in the old system. (“Oh yeah, that play we used to call XYZ, we’re calling that FGH now, remember?”) One the other hand, bringing in a competing backup who is more experienced in the NE style offense could help even more. Ultimately, I’m guessing that Ramsey is bright enough to make the transition, but any competition from a QB more versed in the system would be an instant challenge to him.
(b) I’m not worried in the slightest that Pat Bowlen has suddenly changed stripes to become some sort of megalomaniac micromanager. I agree with the consensus that seems to be emerging that Pat was compelled to act, and I think he likewise is compelled to hold McJedi and X accountable for their actions, so it is natural that he will be watching them like a hawk. This is a very fragile moment for our favorite team. He understands that better than anyone, being so personally tied to the outcome.
So I believe what he’s doing is logical and natural, but that he is also not desiring this to be a long term arrangement — that he expects McJedi and X to live up to their promise. If they do, I bet he gets out of the way just as fast as he did with Shanny, especially if they start producing late-season runs and SB wins.
So while I do believe he’s learned a lot about football since becoming an owner, I don’t believe for a second he thinks he knows more than the guys he hired. He needs them, and they need him to give them the boundaries, goals, challenge, and identity they need. In other words, accountability.
Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne
by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 8:02 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Funny
“Hopefully, it doesn’t matter. Let’s just hope for a healthy Jay Cutler”
As we say in my business, hope is not a plan.
by jvill on Feb 16, 2009 8:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
A couple more thoughts . . .
1. I think Ramsey should go. With the current changeover, the timing is ideal. I don’t think Ramsey’s ever inspired confidence and he no longer “knows the system.” Of the two QBs you cite, I would favor Fitzpatrick.
2. I would vote no on Gaffney and Clayton. Gaffney because I saw him extensively in his years with the Texans down here and while I think he’s grown up during his NE stint, I don’t think his talent (separation issues and not a good blocker) supports pursuing him. And Clayton, while talented, thinks he’s a number 1 receiver and I don’t see a lot of team in his game. I think the bidding will exceed what we’re willing to pay for a #3.
3. While I agree that Bowlen is a better than average owner, maybe much better, it’s not like he’s incapable of mistakes and hasn’t made them in the past. I would point out that while the new Mile High is a pretty good stadium, it has yet to really replace the old Mile High. And others at this site should weigh in if they know the history better, but I believe Pat was head of the broadcast committee when the NFL awarded an exclusive contract to DirectTV for the Sunday Ticket package that continues to this day. Why wasn’t this split with PPV cable so that those of us (and there are millions) that do not have an unobstructed view of the southern sky or can’t post antennae for any reason, can still view our beloved Broncos when they don’t happen to appear on a national broadcast without having to resort to a trip to the local sports bar? Apparently you can get SundayTicket in Latin America and even Iran on cable, but not here in the U.S. Surely, the revenue stream could be even higher for the owners with greater exposure for the league.
Finally, I certainly hope this front office turnover was the right thing to do – only the future will know. Nice post again Ted – and I don’t understand NASCAR either.
It's "just" football
by Donkhead on Feb 16, 2009 8:46 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Why would DirecTV pay so much money for the NFL rights...
if we could all get Sunday Ticket on cable? I’m sure that many many people got DirecTV exclusively for the NFL package. When I lived with my parents I did that, and my brother-in-law surely has it for the same reason. I don’t think we’re the exception here. Sunday Ticket and DirecTV were a brilliant combination on the part of both the NFL and DirecTV. It’s been quite the boon for both.
by Douglas A. Lee on Feb 16, 2009 10:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure they wouldn't
My point (perhaps poorly stated) was that the NFL would have gotten less from DirectTV, but that difference would have been compensated for, by selling the SundayTicket package to cable operators as well. I agree that this was a brilliant move by DirectTV (you and many others subscribed primarily for SundayTicket), but was not necessarily in the best interest of the NFL, and as lamented above, was certainly not in the best interests of millions of fans (provided such a cable born package was a possibility).
It's "just" football
by Donkhead on Feb 17, 2009 2:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sunday Ticket
Yeah, I finally relented after a few years of sports bars (though fortunately we had a non-smoking one nearby), and signed up for DTV only because of Sunday Ticket. After the first season I moved, and couldn’t get the satellite signal at the new place. When DTV called me begging me to come back on service (what part of ’can’t get the signal’ are you not understanding?), I queried about the SuperFan that gives you NFL over the Internet. Long story short, they game me SundayTicket+SuperFan for free if I’d just pay the $30/mo minimum. So, I did that, and cancelled at the end. Don’t know if I can swing that same deal next year, but I’m considering NFL Rewind instead. Assuming that starts with week 1, it’s far cheaper, and gets me the game on my schedule. Another option would be to find a SundayTicket subscriber who wouldn’t use the live Internet braodcast, and piggyback SuperFan on top of his subscription. I think that would work out OK too. That said, I always have been and continue to be severely annoyed that they keep the exclusive with DTV. I think that contract runs only one more year, so we can hope it opens up after that.
by MakeCents on Feb 16, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whither the Goodman's
The nfl.com has reported that the dust-up about the Goodman’s was a personnel difference between Xanders and Jeff, the younger Goodman. It got ugly, words were exchanged that made working together difficult and Jim, predictably, took his son’s side and/or supported him. Bowlen/McD decided that Xanders had a better perspective and the path was obvious.
I feel fine wondering about Pat. He feels that he’s learned that game, and perhaps he has. Anytime an owner changes his approach, there’s nothing wrong with a little discussion about it. The 2008 draft immediately followed the dismissal of Ted Sundquist, a man no one is willing to hire since then, which tells me something. That gave a lot of folks, including myself, the thought that the Goodman’s might know what they are talking about, as did watching interviews with Jim who is a very sharp cookie. It was clear, over the years, that Shanahan had huge input into decisions of personnel and would go off his ‘gut’ and/or a video someone sent him. Bad juju, bad business. I hope Xanders is as good as Pat thinks, like most do. The NE model is certainly a big upgrade over most approaches, and their record supports that.
Nice FA options, Ted, and as usual, a great post. Rec’d and buzzed – does anyone remember that buzz thing? I keep being the first or one of the few…Anyway, thanks, Ted
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Feb 16, 2009 10:12 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for reminding me Bear!
Buzzed TB.
I amy not agree with everything you say, but your points are well amade and illicit discussion. Thats what is great about MHR!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Feb 16, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't find the article
Can you post a link? Thanks.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Feb 16, 2009 8:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to be a NASCAR fan to understand it....
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 16, 2009 10:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
What about Eddie?
I don’t get the point that we don’t have someone like Devery Henderson who can spread the field, isn’t Eddie Royal that someone? He is obviously a more well-rounded receiver than Henderson and that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t want another guy to stretch the field too.
by bushwah on Feb 16, 2009 10:25 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong with Eddie, but....
When opposing defenses sit back in a zone on us, then we are forced to use Royal or Marshall to stretch the zone. That negates their primary strength which is the ability to run after the catch. A deep threat receiver would allow the Broncos to stretch the zone with that player and use Marshall and Royal to work the middle and underneath routes playing to their strengths. It’s a matter of offensive tactics and schemes, not a knock on any individual player.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 11:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we may already have a guy that can do that...
It may have just been me, but it looked like Chad Jackson was quite the speedster in the bit of PT he had last season. We’re essentially talking about a job for the 4th receiver (since Stokley is most definitely the 3), and isn’t that what Jackson was playing at the end of last year? I know that he doesn’t have the history in the league of some of these other guys, but a couple of long TD’s will make defenses think twice about sagging off of him…
by hai17 on Feb 16, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
He only caught one pass, a swing pass. So we haven’t really seen if he can stretch the field. No matter how fast a receiver is, they do have to be able to catch the ball when it comes to them.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 10:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Definately interesting...
About the dudes hands: I remember watching the combine and I found this clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktpjvtz9iQ
Also, I know he’s a burner. I was waiting to see if he would do something with a Broncos uniform on, so I remember that swing pass. The thing that stuck out to me was once he caught the pass he got upfield in a hurry. It looked like it was going to go for a couple yards max, but he turned it up for a real quick 10 or so. I know that’s not a lot to go off of, but he’s young, and he definitely looks like he has potential.
And like they say, there’s a huge difference between measurables and playing football. So, what we need to see now is if he’s a workout warrior, or a football player. I got hope though.
by ten_fiver on Feb 17, 2009 12:17 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Several people have made good points
I admit I’ve felt a twinge of anxiety, but I agree with the consensus that your worries are premature. I read the same article as BornOrange and drew similar conclusions. Bowlen made a good choice before – he
has two superbowls to show for it – and has learned much in the meantime. That doesn’t mean he’s going to micromanage. That’s never been his style. Hopefully it means he’s learned enough to pick a winning head coach/general manager combo and provide an organizational structure in which they can succeed. Reporting
to Bowlen means being accountable, not getting marching orders. As implied in another thread Pryce, Berry, Hayward, and Warren would have given us effective lineplay while our youngsters were developing if they weren’t playing for Baltimore, Arizona, Jacksonville, arend Oakland. Maybe if we’d had better salary and personnel management in the front office they wouldn’t be.
As nycbroncosfan suggests, building through free agency is not only not risk free but is expensive. Even if the salary cap didn’t intrude Bowlen’s pockets are not bottomless.
While boydy2669 is surely right that the sky is not now falling, that insight doesn’t require that we go to the opposite extreme and assert that it was falling before Bowlen stepped in. One doesn’t have to be the last Shanahan holdout in a Pacific island jungle to recognize that he hasn’t been that bad. It’s not as if we were in imminent danger of entering (cue Jaws theme) . . . the Detroit zone. We just haven’t been as good as Bowlen wanted us to be.
About 45 minutes or so into writing this I see broncobear weighing in with some pertinent info about a dust-up between Xanders and Jeff Goodman. Apparently, in making a choice that was forced on him, Bowlen went for overall managerial capability over narrow expertise, assuming that the person with the former could reconstitute the latter. In making the choice in the first place Bowlen is signaling that he wants a team, which he apparently thinks Xanders and McDaniels can be.
As with drafting players, setting up an effective organizational structure and getting the right people for it (Xanders, McDaniels) is a crap shoot. But the fact that Bowlen, when he decided to make a change, picked off two of the hottest up-and-comers in the coaching and front office ranks, is not a bad sign. Bowlen strikes me as the kind of person who collects data and ponders for awhile, then acts decisively. The latter can be startling for those who thought he was merely passive. A good article typically engenders a fruitful discussion. Looks like this one has done so.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Feb 16, 2009 10:47 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
Nice analysis Spock!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Feb 16, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No.. No... NO!
You needed the outer limits theme, or the twilight zone theme, the jaws theme just doesn’t work right in my head.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Feb 16, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Feb 16, 2009 5:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the Star Wars theme.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 16, 2009 5:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Bowlen strikes me as the kind of person who collects data and ponders for awhile, then acts decisively
I agree. The recent articles suggesting that Bowlen’s falling out with Shanahan started a year ago might be overblown, but looking at how this unfolded it’s clear that Pat had been considering it for quite a while. He had to fire a friend and a coaching legend to move on. He waited until the season ended, thought one more time and implemented the change.
Having run some smaller companies, I know that when yo make changes they tend to be contagious. Fire one employee and you are likely to have smoe additional turnover – people’s feelings are a real part of their professional life. Pat is going with younger men – and how much younger concerns me – but very bright, highly trained and well qualified younger men.
spock and others have poiinted out that shanahan isn’t leaving nothing – we have a tremedous base for growth. I honestly wondered if Mike the GM could build on it – I believe that the current structure can.
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Feb 16, 2009 11:03 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
". . . and how much younger concerns me . . ."
Not only youth but the fact that this is each’s first go round at the top concerns me. Sometimes a person doesn’t succeed on his first try but does on his second after learning from the experience. It seems to me that’s true of Shanahan and Bellichick, and probably many others. In a way I feel better about Xanders because he’s had a longer apprenticeship. I hope McDaniels is able to succeed right away, that he’s a phenom who just needed a shot. We can only go along for the ride and hope. In a similar vein Shanahan will probably be more effective elsewhere due to being forced to face his own limitations. It’s too bad it could only have occurred by him becoming the ex-coach of the Broncos, but that’s the way it goes.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Feb 16, 2009 5:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ramsey
will probably be brought back as a back up. not what I want just what I see
" He goes against Champ everyday." -Jay Cutler
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 11:17 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
No longer fits...
Ramsey the veteran was good for Jay’s development as a young star. Ramsey the QB is not good enough to lead the team if Jay goes down. The Broncos no longer need a mentor for Jay. They need a capable backup who can run the team in the event that Jay is injured. Think Bubby Brister, a guy who might not win a championship for you, but who could manage a game well enough to not lose it. That’s not Ramsey; he just makes too many poor decisions on the field. It’s also not Hackney who may be exciting, but who is too hit or miss in his play.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 11:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rumor is
That Garcia is going to be let go in Tampa. He would be a solid backup if that is a role he is willing to take.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
by sadaraine on Feb 16, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He was let go
dont see him wanting a back up role.
my choice would be draft. See MHR SS QB Fan Post
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like Charlie Batch...
He has demonstrated the proper mindset to be a career backup and he seems to play well, not great, but well when he has to step in. Backup QB is actually a very challenging role. The player has to be willing to get mentally prepared week in and week out even though he probably won’t be called on. VERY few players can actually do it well. Kubiak was outstanding, Bubby Brister was good at it, Earl Morrell was probably the best of all time.
Guys who have failed as starters usually don’t make good backups; they tend to still be looking for a chance to start. Sometimes older veterans whose skills have tailed can do it but usually not. Remember Steve Buerline?
by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 5:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Batch would be an excellent pickup
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Feb 16, 2009 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The draft will not give us an effective backup THIS year
We really do need an experienced quarterback who can manage games, who’s willing at this stage in his career to take that role. We don’t want to spend a draft pick on someone who might work out in the longterm, who if he does will then want to go to another team where he can start.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Feb 16, 2009 5:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes sir, we have a winner! 100% agreed SWG!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Feb 16, 2009 5:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Adversity happens.
I can’t think of a single team in NFL history that has always been great. There are only a few that have been consistently solid, which is a short list the Broncos have been on for the better part of 30 years. Broncos fans are a lucky bunch.
Just like with anything else, this type of success carries some negatives. For example, if you miss the playoffs for three straight years, your fans are going to gravitate towards doomsaying and pessimism. The fact of the matter is— even with Belichick, Gibbs, Holmgren, Shannahan, Parcells, etc, etc in the building, you are going to suffer the ebbs and flows of NFL reality. The odds catch up to you, and for every Eddie Mac, you roll the dice and it comes up Gardner. If failure, like success, comes in bunches, then all the sudden you have some holes. It the nature of a business that isn’t much unlike gambling for a living. Every play doesn’t result in more house money in your pocket. You lose sometimes. It’s playing through the cold streaks that set you apart, and with Denver’s offense, they have a great chance of coming through with money to play.
Long story short, it is hardly time to signal the horns of crisis in Dove Valley. In any other business, an owner seeking harmony and effeciency inside his organization is just attending to Business 101. It doesn’t mean he woke up one morning on the wrong side of crazy.
by PredominantlyOrange on Feb 16, 2009 11:34 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
A study in coaching contrasts
Ted, you’ve basically mentioned the reasons why I was so gung-ho for hiring McDaniels. He’s been trained to see personnel, schemes, on-field tactics as all of a piece. I really think this is invaluable. And after seeing Shanny draft all kinds of undersized and oddball busts, I can’t wait to approach personnel with a firm cut-off on going undersized. Hallelujah.
And then you bring up the Jets. I’m going to go on the record now as saying that Rex Ryan is as bad or worse a coach than his father. The guy is a petty tyrant who likes to talk tough, and he’s going to work for a seriously dysfunctional organization. He’ll be a prime example of the guy who’s great at X’s and O’s, lousy at running a team.
The difference between Bowlen and Woody Johnson is truly striking…..
by Chibronx on Feb 16, 2009 12:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Ted...
…may I suggest the Nuggets?? Since you’re a die hard Bronco fan, it would make sense. Doesn’t hurt that this is the best Nuggets team that I have ever watched play (since the mid 80’s). Forget the Suns, come enjoy the Nuggets my friend!
by c_style on Feb 16, 2009 6:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I live in Cleveland...
and I am not a fan of any of the local teams. That’s why I say maybe the Cavs.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Feb 16, 2009 7:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
go with the nuggets! Ha Ha
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Enjoyed your post, as usual, Ted
although I believe defense is the starting point here. Yes, the offense can and should improve, but it is already unstoppable, provided they get better at hanging onto the ball.
The defense, however, could not stop anybody, and they could not seem to get the ball. The massive number of cuts is encouraging, yet I would like to see what is out there to replace them. I’m sure they have a lot of players in mind, but who?
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
by AZDynamics on Feb 18, 2009 5:54 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

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