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Broncos Release Six

The Broncos on Monday announced the release of the following six players: John Engelberger, Nate Jackson, Niko Koutouvides, Marquand Manuel, DeWayne Robertson and Jamie Winborn.

 

hat tip to RiG for the news!

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Engelberger started six games for the Broncos in 2008, recording 51 tackles, and had spent the previous three seasons with the club. He began his career with the San Francisco 49ers.

2008 was Jackson's fifth year in the NFL, having spent every season with the Broncos. He started three games in place of the injured Tony Scheffler and caught 11 passes before being placed on injured reserve on November 20.

Koutouvides was a first-year Bronco after spending four seasons with the Seattle Seahawks. He saw action in 14 games in 2008, playing mostly on special teams.

Manuel was also a first-year Bronco after having played for the Bengals, Seahawks, Packers and Panthers. He started 14 games at strong safety for the Broncos in 2008.

Robertson joined the Broncos via trade with the New York Jets on April 24, 2008 and started 15 games at defensive tackle. He spent the first five years of his career with New York.

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Good riddance, all...

except Jackson. I was quite impressed by some of the big catches he made in Scheffler’s absence, but I suppose it’s not that big of a deal – we’re talking about a third-stringer here. I know Winborn’s energy was endearing to many Broncos fans, but I won’t miss his excessive celebrating. He may have seemed something of a leader, but look at what he was leading! Also, Mike Nolan’s arrival spelled certain doom for Jamie. I hope Niko, Robertson and Manuel don’t let the door hit them on their rears as they’re leaving…

by Douglas A. Lee on Feb 16, 2009 6:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

+1

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm moderately surprised by...

Winborn, but otherwise no surprises.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 6:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

keep these two things in mind

Free Agency- Who is better than what we have

Draft- who can be better than what we have

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Winborn struggled in the 3-4 Nolan installed in SanFran

no surprise Nolan wasn’t interested in seeing him struggle in the 3-4 here. Good luck to him, though.

by jack_ on Feb 16, 2009 7:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

There was some kind of personality issue between Nolan and Winborn. Actually, the issue arrived shortly after Winborn had a legendary performance in one game which Dr. Z was attending and wrote about. Whatever the issue, shortly after that Winborn was benched. There was a disagreement and Winborn was told not to come back – period. I never could find out any details, but suffice to say that I wasn’t looking for Jamie to start this year.

Hillis in '09

by Emmett Smith on Feb 16, 2009 9:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't really feign surprise.

I think some of these players as well as some from the last round of cuts may find their way back to the roster at much reduced prices. K2 could make an outstanding ST player and provide emergency back-up at linebacker. DRob could be an excellent back-up at NT (I know, he doesn’t like it) if we play a one gap 3-4. He will have to take back-up pay. I doubt if we see Winborn, Jackson or Manual again.

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
Hillis=Cowbell. You can’t have too much. styg 01/29/09

by firstfan on Feb 16, 2009 6:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I dont de DRob coming back

Or Jackson, Coach seems like a no nonsense kind of guy not sign cut sign cut anymore

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

In the words of weatherman Phil Connors in "Groundhog Day" ...

“Anything different is good.”

I wrote more here, but Jon beat me to the punch on getting the news posted first.

by Holden Caulfield on Feb 16, 2009 6:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

make sure you read the breakdown

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Double-edged was the guillotine that beheaded it...

I was expecting Boss to be cut instead of Winborn. Hopefully, this is a sign Boss’s surgery went well becuase the man is talented. Even if we could get a season full of situational downs out of #97, keeping him around would be worth it.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Feb 16, 2009 6:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

"This one's for Pat!"

Actually all six of em are for Pat. THIS is how you make room for yourself under the cap….

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 16, 2009 6:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

These new guys

seem to be doing well to make it happen

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not just cap ...

… but cash, as well. Compared to previous years, NFL cash budgets are skimpier than a g-string this year, which we’ve seen with the 49ers, Redskins, Browns and Colts joining the layoff parade that the Broncos began last March. With the Broncos on the hook for Shanahan, the Goodmans, the balance of Slowik’s salary and other coaches who were jettisoned, plus the overall economic woes that almost certainly will affect sponsorships and premium seating sales, their cash budget is likely suffering like everyone else’s.

by Holden Caulfield on Feb 16, 2009 7:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to see Jackson go

He always seemed like a hard worker, a team guy, and particularly clutch for a non-starter. But the new era is dawning… I’m sure Kubes will snatch him up.

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 6:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldnt count on that one

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Care to make a lil wager?

; )

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 6:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha ha

not with owen daniels

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 6:56 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Jackson originally with the 9ers?

Maybe just in their camp or something. I thought he was a Walsh recommendation to Shanny…

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 7:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Jjackson came to Denver in a trade with SF in 03. He never played a down for SF.

Truly the light is sweet, and a pleasant thing it is for my eyes to behold the sun.

Ecclesiastes

by bradley on Feb 17, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks BWalsh

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 17, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

Yeah, you know, as much as I liked Jackson, he clearly wasn’t as natural for the position as Mssrs. Scheff and Graham. I kinda rooted for him because of the whole converted receiver thing. Sharpe has me pulling for that profile I guess.

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 7:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This was meant to me a reply to Jon above

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 7:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

got it!

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 7:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank god we don't have to pay DeWayne 12 million this year!!

lmao snort just kidding. But I bet that’s what the RMN will be reporting…

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 7:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

i can see it now...

Broncos trim $24 million in salary with the release of Dewayne Robertson and Marquand Manuel

by poorboywilly on Feb 16, 2009 7:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

they will pump the numbers to 50 million for all the cuts

to feed the down turn of the economy hurts football too story

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 7:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

wow we better give Goodell a bailout

We can’t have multimillionaires freezing their salaries! That’s socialism! lol

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 10:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Fred Taylor and Chris McCallister were also released

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Feb 16, 2009 7:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Just an amazing year in coaching and FA

This may be one to remember for some time…

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 16, 2009 7:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really surprised by any of the names either,

however it is interesting that three of the players came from other teams (that didn’t want them either).

Get rid of any excess baggage and keep the players that we can move forward with.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Feb 16, 2009 7:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

McD is going to just light it up

better check your locker @ dove valley everyday for a pink slip

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 7:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

they wont be cut

we just wont resign them!

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Feb 16, 2009 7:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets hope!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 16, 2009 7:19 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

payma ?

i like jackson and robertson with a pay cut ….. but oh well……payma makes me want to punch myself

"show me a good loser and i'll show you a loser" - coach

by chikndnnr on Feb 16, 2009 9:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

paymah i can at least spell the gentlemans name right

"show me a good loser and i'll show you a loser" - coach

by chikndnnr on Feb 16, 2009 9:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Paymah is a free agent.

They don’t need to do anything with him. I expect the team to see who they get in FA and the draft, then they may give him a min offer and invite him to camp, or not.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 16, 2009 10:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The only surprise

is how much money this team has tied up in such a horrible defense.

From the RMN:

Dewayne Robertson and his $16 million salary-cap figure.

The Broncos will have no difficulty being under the league- mandated salary cap of $123 million per team when free agency opens and the new league year begins Feb. 27, but Xanders had said earlier Monday there would be a long look at how that salary- cap money is allocated.

The Broncos had 18 players set to count more than $1 million each against the cap for the 2009 season when the day started. Ten of those players were on defense, a unit that ranked at, or near the bottom of, every major defensive category in last season’s 8-8 finish.

That, in a nutshell my friends, is why Shanahan is no longer a Bronco.

aka MN Bronco

by pubkeeper on Feb 17, 2009 8:26 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

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