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Friday Free Agency Thread #4--Are Things Winding Down? Are We Going to Sign Dawkins?

The biggest news, or non-news if you prefer, so far has to be the agreement-to-terms of FS Brian Dawkins.  Hopefully this isn't a case of just trying to get contract leverage, but you never know...

How things stand:

 

Verified Broncos Signees

  • Lonie Paxton LS New England
  • Jabar Gaffney WR New England
  • Renaldo Hill S Miami
  • Correll Buckhalter RB Philadelphia
  • JJ Arrington RB Arizona

 

Reported and/or High Interest Broncos Signees

  • Brian Dawkins S  Philadelphia [update:  Philadelphia news sources are now reporting he has signed with Denver.  Hopefully we see some contract info soon...]
  • David Anderson WR Houston (Offer Sheet)
  • Tentative agreement has been reached with Darrel Reid, DT and special teams standout for the Colts.  shakenbake from Stampede Blue added this great memory:  "I forgot probably the most awesome point about what a great player and guy he is obviously he’s a fixture on special teams like I said before. This season after the kick/punt coverage teams had struggled and been terrible pretty much for the entire last 5 years, Reid started calling extra special teams meetings. Not the (now no longer with the team) ST coordinator. Reid took it upon himself to bring the rest of the coverage teams into extra meeting time to get their [stuff] together (that along with an overhaul of about half the coverage team got Indy to respectable in kick/punt coverage)"

  • Andra Davis, ILB, from Cleveland is apparently getting the "serious" treatment.
  • DT Ronald Fields, from San Francisco.

 

NFL News 


I'll be in and out of the thread all evening.  Keep on keeping on, Bronconation!

 

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Gaffney...

Although he has a solid career, I feel he has never lived up to his potential. For what he is though, and to this Broncos team he just needs to produce like he did in NE.

D Jack is gone right?

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Feb 27, 2009 8:34 PM MST reply actions  

yep

UFA, so unless we sign him later…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 8:34 PM MST up reply actions  

surely

McDaniels was the best option for this team. You CAN NOT overfocus on the defense and possibley have Jeremy Bates not progress with Cutler. McDaniels will watch over both sides of the ball, especially the O, while letting a defensive guy handle the D along with an intelligent GM.

Mac Daddy mackin' out Denver!!!

Steve Atwater >>>>>>>>>>>> Troy Polawhatever!!!! - SlamDunkTheFunk 2.1.09

by broncodude793 on Feb 27, 2009 8:35 PM MST up reply actions  

He's a quality role playing receiver though.

Or if you don’t agree with that, at least he can be at times.

by phantom818 on Feb 27, 2009 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Styg...

Most are reporting that Dawkins is signed

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Feb 27, 2009 8:35 PM MST reply actions  

I'm checking up on it

I’ve been out for a bit…looking for a nice link…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 8:36 PM MST up reply actions  

This link seems reliable

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/Brian_Dawkins_Signs_With_Broncos

what does everybody think, is it a done deal??

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

I say 75-25.

McDaniels was the best option for this team. You CAN NOT overfocus on the defense and possibley have Jeremy Bates not progress with Cutler. McDaniels will watch over both sides of the ball, especially the O, while letting a defensive guy handle the D along with an intelligent GM.

Mac Daddy mackin' out Denver!!!

Steve Atwater >>>>>>>>>>>> Troy Polawhatever!!!! - SlamDunkTheFunk 2.1.09

by broncodude793 on Feb 27, 2009 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm saying 97.4% at this point.

Schefter is about the only one not confirming it now.

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by PosterNutbag on Feb 27, 2009 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree with BD793

I’d like to hear Schefter confirm it, or see a story on a major site confirming. There’s obviously some reason nobody’s done so yet…

by Douglas A. Lee on Feb 27, 2009 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Would definitely love

to hear schefter on this

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 8:59 PM MST up reply actions  

excellent

I’l link it up too…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 8:39 PM MST up reply actions  

So can we call them the Xmen now since

Dawkins has always gone by Wolverine lol

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 8:40 PM MST reply actions  

XMen Cheerleaders

Perhaps you can get pictures of the Women of Xmen (Rogue, Storm, Phoenix, etc.) and put Broncos cheerleader outfits on them.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 27, 2009 8:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm one step ahead of you...

…just check out my creation on the previous post.

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by PosterNutbag on Feb 27, 2009 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry

B Doc’s head on a cheerleader isn’t as good as Rogue in a Cheer outfit.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 27, 2009 8:48 PM MST up reply actions  

lol...well that's a matter of opinion.

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by PosterNutbag on Feb 27, 2009 8:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Injuries

Some the the FA seem injury prone. We had that on offense (RB) and defense (Boss B.). Do you think the injury prone guys will hold up? Hopefully there isn’t too much roster space taken up by guys who only play 3-4 games per season.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 27, 2009 8:40 PM MST reply actions  

they’re not all trying to play RB, so we should be okay

by lolcopter on Feb 27, 2009 8:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats good

I was worried there for a second.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 27, 2009 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Olshansky

Gnarly brought it up in the other thread, should the Broncos take a chance on Olshansky? he had an off year this last year, but before that was a solid 3-4 DE. Something the Broncos desperately need.

He seems very streaky, so maybe an incentive laden contract will keep his motor going. thoughts?

I have not heard any reports of any team, including the Broncos, looking at Olshansky yet.

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Feb 27, 2009 8:42 PM MST reply actions  

RE: Olshansky

I would be OK with them bringing in Ol. If he missed tackles we could call him Ole!

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 27, 2009 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Yea i have not heard anything

Last year was his only bad year. He was very productive before last season. Also our new D-line coach was his D-line coach in SD

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 8:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha, it's almost like today is the ONLY day free agents can sign

with all the crazy fuss going on.

I’m hoping for the line-work/backer work MHR posts have been ironing out over the recent weeks. Although, if McD and the Broncos are taking care of the type of needs they have been THUS far in the free agency period, I’d say it’s probably to solidify some of the less glaring problems (I say “less-glaring” because there are some issues, but a lot of these deals have been more o-focused, while the safeties are surely important on the Denver team, but switching to the 3-4 may also require some new faces up in the front seven) before putting a pretty darn fair amount of stock in who they get in the draft.

by phantom818 on Feb 27, 2009 8:49 PM MST reply actions  

I hope the Dawkins signing is really official

Because I cannot wait until he they call a blitz and he lays our Phillis Rivers

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 8:52 PM MST reply actions  

So they listed who Canty is scheduled to interview with

and Denver wasn’t included among about six teams. That sounds like Denver is passing on him. It looks like starting NT and DE and ILB are all still right at the top of our draft list, just like they were a few days ago. That means we needs to score starters in the first three rounds…. as far as I can see, and maybe score a late round star…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 9:05 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah, looks like we're getting the insight we wanted into somewhat of a draft strategy.

Looks like the team wanted to try and put some stock in plugging up some holes with a lot of these early signings and build the nucleus through some youth. Of course…I could be wrong and Denver could bring some guys in after today (as there kind of still is a good amount of time to sign guys)…but at least so far that seems to be the indication.

by phantom818 on Feb 27, 2009 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Although...

I won’t believe the Andra Davis rumor till I see it for myself, but I’d call that a pretty nice little signing as well. It’d be a start up there on the front.

by phantom818 on Feb 27, 2009 9:13 PM MST up reply actions  

yea Andra is a run

stoping ILB, He has had a couple bad years in CLE but CLE D as a whole has sucked also

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I think woodyard is our best LB

He seems to have the IT factor, that DJ does not always have. Also Woodyard was the best linebacker in the SEC when he was at Kentucky. His last year he lead the SEC in Tackles.

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:41 PM MST up reply actions  

No way man...

Woodyard has a spot…period.

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by PosterNutbag on Feb 27, 2009 10:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats too bad

i really wanted canty, he reminds me of Pryce where he can play DE and DT

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

And somebody is reporting that the niners

are throwing offers at Kurt Warner, and that they look like good offers…..

Niners in the SB next year? :)

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 9:07 PM MST reply actions  

fox 31

just had a soundbite from buckhalter

“i just wanna do everything i can for the denver fans”

i’m paraphrasing here, but booyah!

by lolcopter on Feb 27, 2009 9:18 PM MST reply actions  

Our new LS

I posted this in the fanblast on Lonnie Paxton, but since many of us were much perturbed by the signing of a new LS, I thought it was worth mentioning here as well. Check out this rather cool little anecdote from Schef about our new LS:

An eight-year veteran in New England, Paxton will best be remembered for the snow angels he made after Adam Vinatieri kicked a 23-yard field goal that beat the Raiders and propelled them into the 2001 AFC Championship Game.

Guy makes snow angels after eliminating the Raiders?? Where has he BEEN all our lives!!! ; )

SWG made an interesting point in that Lonnie is actually a C where Mike Leach is a TE who plays LS. Made me wonder if maybe McD’s issue with Leach was not so much his snapping as his blocking? Jason Elam being a pro could have anticipated issues like that and overcome them, but not sure a guy like Prater could have. Anyone see recent tape on Leach?

"You can't make the club if you're in the tub." -- Rod Smith

by broncosmontana on Feb 27, 2009 9:22 PM MST reply actions  

I'm with you, man!

Anyone who makes snow angels after beating the Raiders MUST be signed by Denver! :o)

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Thing is

Leach hasn’t been cut.

I’m thinking there will be LS competition in Denver for the first time in how many years? I like the idea that the biggest Gravy Train on the team doesn’t just stop at Leach Station anymore…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Precisely

And the snow angels alone warrant the challenge from Paxton.

No disrespect to Mike Leach, who really has been a cornerstone of our ST for years, but if our ST has been needing rejuvenation for some time …. well, maybe it’s time to put him next to a guy like Lonnie and see how he actually compares.

One thing’s for sure — a lot of NE fans seem very sad to see him go. A LS! That says a lot about him.

"You can't make the club if you're in the tub." -- Rod Smith

by broncosmontana on Feb 27, 2009 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Our Newest Bronco

Yeah, he is wearing John Lynch’s number, I hope that is not sacrilegious.

by adamriggs on Feb 27, 2009 9:30 PM MST reply actions  

I hope he has that kind of impact

this is the perfect kind of signing for that position at this time. And great news for Papi, #20 will be available for him, since McCree won’t be back.

Nice job, by the way… :)

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks

A lot better than my first attempt! That was hideous.

by adamriggs on Feb 27, 2009 9:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Yay!!

Now who wins out #28? Buckhalter or Arrington? I really hope that McD is the kind of coach that will let them have a Texas-style cage match over it.

OK, I've started having dreams about the draft. Is that bad? A couple of weeks ago, I dreamed that we traded down to the #18 pick and drafted Chris Wells. (Zappa was pissed off.) Then last night I dreamed that we passed on Knowshon Moreno to get Maualuga, and Knowshon went to the Chargers. (Zappa was pissed off again.) Is it worse that I'm dreaming about the draft, or that I'm dreaming about Zappa?

by papigrande on Feb 27, 2009 10:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice job........looks awesome.

I hope he jacks up Rivers.

2007-08 MVP: Kobe Bryant

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Feb 27, 2009 9:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Next year I'm going to buy Madden '10

Just so I can blitz him over and over against Phyllis and put videos of it on the internet. You will be seeing plenty of these kins of Fanshots from me :)

OK, I've started having dreams about the draft. Is that bad? A couple of weeks ago, I dreamed that we traded down to the #18 pick and drafted Chris Wells. (Zappa was pissed off.) Then last night I dreamed that we passed on Knowshon Moreno to get Maualuga, and Knowshon went to the Chargers. (Zappa was pissed off again.) Is it worse that I'm dreaming about the draft, or that I'm dreaming about Zappa?

by papigrande on Feb 27, 2009 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Must see

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 28, 2009 12:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Breaking News:

Nuggets DOMINATE Lakers 90-79. Boooyaaaaah!!!!!

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by PosterNutbag on Feb 27, 2009 9:40 PM MST reply actions  

HELL YEA, I hate the lakers

I cannot wait to go to work on Monday and brag

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Sweet!

Bad day to be my brother… first we take his favourite player, and then beat up the Lakers. :(

"Scraping cheese off the wheel."

by Tempestuous Binary on Feb 27, 2009 9:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Sweet!

Love to see the Nuggets whooping on the Lakers…if only the Suns would have done that the other night instead of rolling over and playing dead…

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Feb 27, 2009 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Does the (possible) dawkins signing make it more likely for us to sign Lewis

I know it seems like we might sign ilb davis, and some project d will to play inside as well, however i feel like with the upgrade of dawkins makes the signing of lewis even more valuable. if dj plays his natural weak side, and davis takes on ilb we could still use lewis. It seems like with lewis and dawkins we would have a very tough and nasty defense, with the caveat being the eventual d linemen signings/drafts. we could possibly have one of the strongest linebacking crews in the league with b. baily/doom or moss, davis, lewis, and dj on the weak side. obviously this leaves woodyard though i see him as a future free safety under the tutelage of dawkins. however if macxanders are planning on signing rey m, then obviously we probably wont go after lewis, however the idea of dawkins, champ, lewis and dj all on the same defense is very interesting. As of right now we only need to have a mediocre defense to make it into the playoffs, but with lewis, dawkins and an average nt we could very well be a superbowl contender. At the end of the day lewis wants to be on a team that has a shot, and right now i feel we have just a good of a shot if not better than the jets or the cowboys.

by rayzin1973 on Feb 27, 2009 9:40 PM MST reply actions  

It would be an intense locker room and defense

we had both Dawkins and Lewis

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Or B-more even

without Rex Ryan. Come play for Nolan again, Ray!

"You can't make the club if you're in the tub." -- Rod Smith

by broncosmontana on Feb 27, 2009 9:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I read somewhere today that Nolan and Rey

remain close since Nolans days in Baltimore as their DC. I think Nolan needs to make a phone call

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:44 PM MST up reply actions  

+100

"You can't make the club if you're in the tub." -- Rod Smith

by broncosmontana on Feb 27, 2009 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

On the woodyard subject

I think he will start at WLB for us next year. I would put Woodyard at LB in before boss, doom or moss, and davis. Woodyard is a much better linebacker then all of them. Also if you think he is too small then you should go look at teams that run 3-4 and you will see each team has a few LB around the 230-235 pound range. An example is Lawrence Timmons at 234

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I know I was just

stating that Woodyard is better then boss doom moss and davis. I think he is on the same level as DJ

by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 27, 2009 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

As of right now

I think there are three players on defense that have a position set: Champ, DJ, and Dawkins (assuming he is, in fact, signed). Davis may have a spot, but it just feels like this will be a true “may the best man win” competition.

Other than that, we’re probably looking at a battle royale on defense in training camp.

Which is not to be confused with Royal, which just equals Awesome.

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 9:57 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you can add Marcus Thomas to that list.

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by PosterNutbag on Feb 27, 2009 10:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably true

I’d give Thomas an 90% chance of being a starter. I like him…but I just don’t know what will happen.

I would love to see him as a 3-4 DE. :o)

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

So guys

assuming we’re about halfway through, how do you grade for Team McX’s FA acumen thus far?

Personally, I’m feeling good about pretty much all of them. B+ and confident in our new leaders.

"You can't make the club if you're in the tub." -- Rod Smith

by broncosmontana on Feb 27, 2009 9:47 PM MST reply actions  

Not ready to give Team McX an A right now...

…but I’ll give them an Undercover Brother “SOL-ID”

Which is still enough to make me happy. :o)

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

B- to C+

I thought there would be more effort to shore up the D line. With the length of time it takes to get a NT draft pick ready I thought that they would target a FA then aggressively try and get one.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 27, 2009 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I'm worried, would only give a C.

Most of these signings look like ‘win’ now type signings, however, we’re clearly in reconstruction on defense. The C grade is only for Dawkins, whom I think will bring tremendous leadership, but only for a couple years if he doesn’t break down. The other signings seem like hole fillers with a bit of upside.

by MTBroncoFan on Feb 27, 2009 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Oddly enough

Those are the same reasons why I like these signings. They don’t break the bank, they are temporary in nature…but they pave the way for a re-working of the defense (plus a general hole-filling on offense).

Hopefully these signings WILL fill some holes and add some leadership, letting the last few drafts (plus this upcoming draft, fingers crossed) grow and become the nucleus of a solid defensive system.

And just imagine what a mediocre defense will do for this offense!!!

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 10:00 PM MST up reply actions  

They buy us time

By bringing in veterans past their prime but with gas left in the tank, and therefore affordable, we can draft for those positions and have young players ready to take over in a few years. That’s building through the draft without crashing and burning while waiting for your draftees to develop.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Feb 28, 2009 2:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Dawkins

Sporting News reports that Dawkins has signed

by BroncoJeff on Feb 27, 2009 9:50 PM MST reply actions  

Still no word from Schef

"You can't make the club if you're in the tub." -- Rod Smith

by broncosmontana on Feb 27, 2009 9:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Pouting?

Maybe he is pouting because he didn’t break the news.

by adamriggs on Feb 27, 2009 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe he finally took a nap ; )

"You can't make the club if you're in the tub." -- Rod Smith

by broncosmontana on Feb 27, 2009 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Schefter isn't reporting it

because it’s no longer news. It’s reached the point where his report would simply be a me too.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Feb 28, 2009 2:05 AM MST up reply actions  

on woodyard

while i agree that he is a better linebacker than the 4 you mentioned, if we were to pick up a stud middle linebacker like lewis or rey m, woodyard would be competing with dj for the will linebacker spot and for my money im taking dj in that battle. however if we dont sign lewis or malouluga then i would agree that he should be our starting weak side linebacker, yet i would still love him to become a nasty free safety in the mold of john lynch and brian dawkins to complement our run defense.

by rayzin1973 on Feb 27, 2009 9:56 PM MST reply actions  

Well, wikipedia says it's so, so.....
Brian Patrick Dawkins (born October 13, 1973 in Jacksonville, Florida) is an American football safety for the Denver Broncos of the National Football League.

… it must be so.

by MakeCents on Feb 27, 2009 10:01 PM MST reply actions  

Do not question the Wiki

Wikis have greatly improved my quality of life, from MMORPGS to statistic and signal processing techniques.

Who am I to question a Wiki if it says that Dawkins is a Broncos?

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

wiki

haha yea i saw that, hopefully its not dawkins’ agent updating to get a better deal, for the love of god let me be wrong

by rayzin1973 on Feb 27, 2009 10:03 PM MST reply actions  

I think dawkins and his agent stirred up a lot of shit

  So far he is using the broncos as leverage the broncos are being played

by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 27, 2009 10:04 PM MST reply actions  

Dunno...

Wasn’t there lots of talk around here that he’d be a cut last year… too expensive, and too old?

by MakeCents on Feb 27, 2009 10:05 PM MST up reply actions  

makecents

is blue and orange to the core… but I think he lives in philly like you do

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 10:15 PM MST up reply actions  

thanks

I’ll let my mom and dad know, they have been worried about that! ;)

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

All you need

is to print this thread out, highlight that comment, and put it in a size that is easily stuck to the fridge.

That’s how you know you’ve made it.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 27, 2009 10:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

I saw that some of the guys from MHR went over and celebrated a bit, but it got way out of hand when they took it a little hard. Definitely spiraled out of control.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 27, 2009 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry

I wasn’t referring to the Eagles’ blog… .It was just a genuine question. Dawkins is LOVED in Philly, no doubt. I just sort of recalled that the inevitable rumblings about age started last off-season, but wasn’t sure.

by MakeCents on Feb 28, 2009 10:34 AM MST up reply actions  

So I'm a Broncos fan, but I have zero talent at NFL analysis

If David Anderson is signed, just how much would he be a part of the offense with Marshall, Royal and Stokley in the fold? I’d love Anderson to go Wes Welker on the NFL….as a Rammie myself, I saw Anderson seriously take over games

"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein

by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 27, 2009 10:04 PM MST reply actions  

Anderson

As a former ram myself…I love this signing.

by BroncoJeff on Feb 27, 2009 10:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Anderson

and Gaffney are definitely going to add to the depth chart if we get both guys. It’s going to be a solid WR corps from 1-6 if all of these guys make the roster.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 27, 2009 10:07 PM MST up reply actions  

totally solid

we are going to save some miles off of Stokes, and still be able to go 4 wide all the time. These were necesarry pickups and I’m glad to be surprised by them a little.

All this analysis has a downside sometimes, so it is nice for the surprises..

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 10:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

Even if a guy goes down, we’re going to be fine. The talent and proven track record of those WRs is nice to see, and with the additions to the RB corps, it really looks like this offense has been solidified. I’m more convinced now than ever that the only time we spend a draft pick on offense is for a backup QB late or if a Duke Robinson slips to us in the second round.

I am Jack's unbridled optimism.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 27, 2009 10:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Phila sports talk radio is now reporting

That some kind of deal was reached with B Dawkins But no one knows the specifics
 it will all probably be announced tommrow
                                  you can all sleep good now Its really true

by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 27, 2009 10:14 PM MST reply actions  

Did

they cite a source?

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by edroyal19 on Feb 27, 2009 10:18 PM MST reply actions  

yeah...pretty much all of them in Denver have to.

They’re using the phrase, “Denver and Dawkins have reached an agreement”.

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by PosterNutbag on Feb 27, 2009 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Vic Lombardi

said on cbs4 that “his source” says Dawkins and the Broncos have reached an agreement in principle on a 2-year deal but that Dawkins wants to sleep on it. It’s not over yet.

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by edroyal19 on Feb 27, 2009 10:29 PM MST reply actions  

Since we have been wheeling and dealing so much with the eagles !

Now there stands there is a good chance that they might feel comfortable mabey
 trading to get our 12th pick like some of you guys were saying earlier this week.

by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 27, 2009 10:35 PM MST reply actions  

Eh...not exactly

More like wheeling and stealing. Buckhalter and Dawkins are two of our best signings so far. We didn’t trade for them as they were both unrestricted Free Agents.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Feb 27, 2009 10:41 PM MST up reply actions  

What about Colin Cole of the Packers?

He is 6’ 330 and could be possible DT depth.

As for DT itself, do we even have one? We should probably get on that.

I would like to get that guy we were talking about with the fifth round tender on him. Yeah. I think he’s from Baltimore or something. I can’t for the life of me remember his name, though.

OK, I've started having dreams about the draft. Is that bad? A couple of weeks ago, I dreamed that we traded down to the #18 pick and drafted Chris Wells. (Zappa was pissed off.) Then last night I dreamed that we passed on Knowshon Moreno to get Maualuga, and Knowshon went to the Chargers. (Zappa was pissed off again.) Is it worse that I'm dreaming about the draft, or that I'm dreaming about Zappa?

by papigrande on Feb 27, 2009 10:44 PM MST reply actions  

People here are already debating how

 Buckhalter will do now that he is in the famous denver running system
  He never really panned out here so they are anxious to see what happens for him next
 year

by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 27, 2009 10:45 PM MST reply actions  

is he a "one-cut back"?

i’ve read he isn’t really a good fit with the zone-blocking system. as far as dt/nt is concerned, what gives? THE most important position for us in the 3-4 or 4-3, and we again don’t have a single player worth a damn at the position, sans perhaps thomas as a 4-3 dt. big trouble, folks

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Feb 27, 2009 10:57 PM MST reply actions  

I think everyone here agrees

But the big question is: who in free agency would you want to sign? The pickings are slim; I can’t think of any legit 3-4 NT on the free agent market (restricted free agents not counted). If there isn’t a good one to sign, I have no problems with not reaching and over-paying for anything that might fit the need.

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 11:02 PM MST up reply actions  

which was my argument...

for NOT converted to a 3-4, or hybrid, or whatever you want to call it. no nt’s available, too pricey on the d-line, roster leftovers will most likely not make the transition,…

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Feb 27, 2009 11:06 PM MST up reply actions  

3-4, you have a point

For the “hybrid”…that’s a different matter altogether, IMO. I won’t claim to be an expert, but if there is a way to use standard 4-3 DTs and DEs, but give it some of the feel and flexibility of a 3-4, that may be enough of a stopgap in the transition to a 3-4. But we are in agreement on the NT: without that piece, a true 3-4 is out of reach.

Regardless of the base formation, I’m still pretty happy with the offseason moves thus far. I’m not expecting miracles on the defense: just a respectable NFL defense that can let the offense win some games.

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Feb 27, 2009 11:19 PM MST up reply actions  

you can add de to that comment, as well

we are going to need about 5-6 more d-linemen next season to hold the fort, or we have zero chance at success against our schedule. i would trade all of these signings for 2 starters on the d-line. a bunch of rookies aren’t going to cut it, if we even draft a bunch. am i missing something here?

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Feb 27, 2009 11:01 PM MST reply actions  

on a positive note...

dawkins is awesome. whadda ya know, an in-the-box safety/blitzer/tackler is a need, now. lynch-haters, eat crow.

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Feb 27, 2009 11:03 PM MST reply actions  

Broncos have reportedly signed Colts DT/FB/Special Teams Ace Darrell Reid

http://www.denverpost.com/popular/ci_11804556

For those that didn’t get it (all of you I’m sure) link

But seriously you are getting a great special teams player who can contribute on defense (played both DT spots and LE for Indy) and fill in at fullback if needed.

Here is the hit Reid is famous for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJmsCsb9hUA

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
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by shake n bake on Feb 27, 2009 11:04 PM MST reply actions  

for reals?

reid doesn’t look big enough for even the 4-3. fb depth and a st player are worthy needs, though, but dt looks like a stretch. not what i was looking for, exactly.

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Feb 27, 2009 11:10 PM MST reply actions  

Special teams all star

If he does this just once while he is on the Broncos, I will be happy.

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Feb 27, 2009 11:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Come on Sproles, return one kick....I know you want to..

How do you prevent the opposing pitcher from tearing you superfluous new be-hind while he is on the mound? Simple: Swing a bat....and if that don't work, swing more bat!

by The Lodo Magic Man on Feb 27, 2009 11:55 PM MST up reply actions  

He's 6'2" 288

but plays and runs like he’s much smaller

he’s probably a backup end in a non-Indy defense.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 27, 2009 11:21 PM MST up reply actions  

that'll work, then

but i won’t get excited until we land impact players on the d-line, if we do. we also need a corner pretty bad. but it may not matter. pass-rush, anyone?

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Feb 27, 2009 11:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I forgot probably the most awesome point about what a great player and guy he is

obviously he’s a fixture on special teams like I said before. This season after the kick/punt coverage teams had struggled and been terrible pretty much for the entire last 5 years, Reid started calling extra special teams meetings. Not the (now no longer with the team) ST coordinator. Reid took it upon himself to bring the rest of the coverage teams into extra meeting time to get their shit together (that along with an overhaul of about half the coverage team got Indy to respectable in kick/punt coverage)

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 27, 2009 11:32 PM MST up reply actions  

very cool

thanks for the heads up!

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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 27, 2009 11:49 PM MST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srUo2MDngJE&feature=related

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Feb 27, 2009 11:13 PM MST reply actions  

This was suppose to be the link for the Special teams All Star post.

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Feb 27, 2009 11:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Now we have a couple of YouTube legends!

Dawkins:

Reid:

“Rivers… oh Rivers… where are you…. I promise we just want to talk!”

by Orange_Crush on Feb 28, 2009 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder how the broncos will be graded now ?

 Manny sports writers after the season was over had doubt wether or not the defense
 would be any good this season ?
  Now with these signings and a draft still to come they have to take these upgrades
  more seriously now

by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 27, 2009 11:36 PM MST reply actions  

Crazy Day!!!!!

hey guys, new here but been reading the comments all day! damn, we need dawkins to toughen up our secondary. just waiten for schefter to report it. just sign him already!(assuming they havent already)

by Calibroncoboy on Feb 28, 2009 12:05 AM MST reply actions  

Andra Davis appears to be signed...

If Vic Lombardi of CBS4 is a reliable source…

"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason." ---a former mastermind head coach....

by Broncs Cheer on Feb 28, 2009 1:23 AM MST reply actions  

NEWS
Free agent CB Andre Goodman has visits scheduled with the Broncos Saturday and the Browns on Sunday.
Former Belichick assistants doing battle over the same player. Goodman, who will turn 31 last year, is coming off his best year as a starter. He won’t come at the same price as the younger corners like Dominique Foxworth that have already signed.

OK, I've started having dreams about the draft. Is that bad? A couple of weeks ago, I dreamed that we traded down to the #18 pick and drafted Chris Wells. (Zappa was pissed off.) Then last night I dreamed that we passed on Knowshon Moreno to get Maualuga, and Knowshon went to the Chargers. (Zappa was pissed off again.) Is it worse that I'm dreaming about the draft, or that I'm dreaming about Zappa?

by papigrande on Feb 28, 2009 9:41 AM MST reply actions  

Adam Scheffter reporting

that Matt Cassell was traded to the Chiefs

by poorboywilly on Feb 28, 2009 10:56 AM MST reply actions  

It is DONE

" Chiefs acquire Cassel from Patriots
Patriots trade Cassel to Chiefs "
Adam Schefter
Dawkins signs five-year deal with Broncos

Posted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: Brian Dawkins, Denver Broncos, Philadelphia Eagles

Denver signs free agent safety Brian Dawkins to a five-year, $17 million deal that includes $7.2 million guaranteed. The contract also has escalators that could boost the value of the deal to $27 million over five years, but the deal also could be voided to two years, $9 million.

by BGBronco on Feb 28, 2009 12:05 PM MST reply actions  

Cutler negotiations?

Just heard from Schefter on NFL network that Detroit and Tampa both contacted Denver in hopes of working out a deal, trading Cassel for Cutler. Schefter said that Denver claimed that they didn’t make the calls, the other teams did.
Is Cutler being considered for a trade? Or would Mcdaniels really have gone that far to recreate his little home away from home Patriots team here in Denver? If that’s the case I would be extremely pissed.

by ThunderBringer on Feb 28, 2009 1:31 PM MST reply actions  

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