The Jay Cutler latest: Sources say that Jay Cutler wants to be traded.
by boydy2669 on Feb 28, 2009 5:54 PM MST
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Is this a storm in a tea cup or has it the potential to be the story of the off season.
ESPN is reporting that sources clsoe to Cutler are saying that he wants to be traded....and traded now.
It seems insane that McDaniels would take Cassel over Cutler....I mean, seriously, why would ANYONE take Cassel over Cutler????
If Jedi tried to intitiate this then I would say get rid of him....this is nepotism at its best.
Anyway, check the link:
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0-3-1666/Source--Spurned-Cutler-wants-to-be-traded.html
In more news, JJ Arrington has NOT signed his contract, thus the reason for Derrick Ward's visit.
Stuff keeps happeneing!
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This is complete utter
Crap. Why would McDaniels have such a hard on for Cassel, to choose him over Cutler? Cutler has the respect of the Broncos fan, the rapport with teammates. How the hell could Pat Bowlen go for this?!
Bowlen should snuff this out NOW
I think at some point soon….and I mean real soon….Pat Bowlen should step in and put this to rest.
I clearly remember Bowlen saying at the presser after Shanahan’s firing that Cutler was the man around here now and that he would be keeping him apprised of the developments in hiring the new head coach.
Time for him to back up that statement and declare that Jay is not going anywhere.
It’s just way too soon to bring back the Reeves or Elway argument. I mean c’mon….it’s not even March!
+1
This is really getting out of hand
by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 28, 2009 6:11 PM MST up reply actions
What we don't know...
Did they (McD and X) call Jay, or is his phone blowing up with calls from friends and family, and not the coach that appears to be trying to replace him. If this was Rivers or Eli or Rothlisberger, similar aged QB’s, would their franchises have handled this better. I think its safe to assume they would have.
If this guy is supposed to be such a great QB’s coach, why is he attempting to downgrade the position.
I hope this doesn’t happen, but if Shanny gets another job, say with Dallas, and Jay decides to let his contract run out, we know where he’ll be headed, thanks a million coach!!
Still refusing to believe any of this.
There is absolutely no way any organization (save oakland) would do something this dumb. I don’t believe this is true, and won’t until I see Jay saying, on camera, that he wants to be traded.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
I believe it
If I was Jay, I would want to be traded after McD and Xanders disrespected me, these guys are treating the Broncos like Madden football and don’t understand tradition, loyality, and building a team.
I think Bowlen needs to bite the bullet and Xanders and McD need to be out on their ass in 24 hours, they are finding a way to destroy the franchise in short order.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
BS
If someone was offering Cassel for Cutler and a first round pick, our front office should have listened to the offer. They rightfully refused. Now if Jay want to throw a fit and demand a trade, so be it. If this is true, then Jay Cutler = Jeff George. Trade the spoiled brat immediately.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
No way
You think the Colts would entertain trade for Manning or the Pats for Brady, hell no, even the Chargers wouldn’t entertain a trade for Rivers, he is not a spoiled brat, if your HC thinks you are worse than Cassel then he isn’t a very good HC.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Jay Cutler is no Manning and he is no Brady.
Not even close.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
Is he as good as Rivers?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
I hate Phyllis, but he has taken his team deep in the playoffss...
and put up better numbers. I can’t physically type out that he is better…
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
You don't trade a franchise QB just starting in the prime of his career
Coming off a pro-bowl year, you don’t even consider it
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Disagree
While I understand listening to the offer, this (if true) is a very serious blunder by the new brain trust. They came to Denver understanding that Cutler, not Cassel, was the QB, and that these were the Denver Broncos, not the Patriots West. If McD is as much of a QB guru as everyone says, why can’t he work with a first-round talent, not a career-long backup made good? It just reeks of trying to overstep his boundaries much too fast and piss off a guy that (deservedly or not) is regarded as the face of the franchise, and the keystone to a record-setting offense.
Perfect player? Hell no. Do I agree with Cutler’s handling of the situation? No, not really. But I can for damn sure see where he’s coming from. The last thing you expect your new HC to do is come in and try to replace you with his old backup guy — it just speaks volumes in a bad way. I agree that the Broncos have to regain Cutler’s trust immediately, or this could become a very ugly situation.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
by Silverblood on Feb 28, 2009 6:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I can understand Jay getting pissed...
but if he did demand a trade and completely freaked— publicly, to the press— about the front office simply listening to an offer, it reeks of immaturity. I guess I should shut up at this point because I really don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
Oh, I agree.
Like I said, I don’t really agree with his handling of the situation. But for better or worse, he’s the keystone to the franchise and I hope that this is all just a big misunderstanding that will get smoothed over fast. There are definitely bridges that need to be mended — we need to focus on getting better, not this kind of crap.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
Yep.
It would just be unfortunate if this is what we get from him. Man, this guy as all the talent in the world, and I love watching him play. I love the way he plays the game, too. I hope they work this out. It’s hard to be too harsh, I was an idiot when i was 25 (with no pressure or expectations).
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
Bowlen
I agree. If this is legitimate, Bowlen needs to have a meeting with McDaniels and Cutler and sort this out and let McDaniels know, in no uncertain terms, who his QB is. And, it ain’t Cassel, that’s for darn sure.
OMG
This has ruined my entire outlook on things. If this is true and Jay now wants out of Denver expect this team to be nothing for years to come! If McDanieals has truly done this I would consider him an enemy and will never have any respect for the guy. For the last half of the day I have been laughing about what I thought was just a stupid rumor if if this is the case the McD has ruined our team and I for one will not watch as it happens. I have been a Bronco fan my whole life and this would change everything for me. Excuse but I am so upset I dont think I can write anymore!!!!!!!!!!
God help us!!!!
Fire McDaniels now, Xanders can join him on the help wanted line
I seriously think Bowlen needs to fire McDaniels and promote Dennison, McD the force is not strong in you.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Dude, seriously,
Jay Cutler has been a petulant child from stay one (read Steven Fastis’ book). If this report is true, he must go. McD has more credibility to me than Cutler at this point.
—-Harsh and totally based on BW’s report. If this turns out to be BS, then I take these comments back.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
you all react too soon.
remember, this is a BW report. What makes it worse is that he works for ESPN now, so he’s even less credible.
Until I see Jay Cutler saying he wants a trade, I (and the rest of you with me) will not (or should not for you all) believe he is so upset.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
Apparently Jay has a lot to say tonight on CBS 4 with the lovely and alwasy entertaining Vic Lombardi...
Lets see what shakes out.
I am torn….I think Jay needs to get over it in a big way, but I question Jedi’s ranking of players if he would even consider Cassel (and I am a USC fan) in the same class as Cutler.
Cutler is a brat though….he needs to grow up.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Now also see that Scheffler's name is coming up in trade talks
Looks like a position to gut the team
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Does this sound like a man who WANTS a trade?
“I’ve heard the rumors,” Cutler said. “I know what they’re trying to do. Even though I love Denver and I’d love to remain a Bronco, I know how this business works. If they want me to play somewhere else, so be it.”
No. Know why? Because it ISN’T. Jay Cutler is not demanding a trade. ESPN’s “sources” are all morons. (See: Werder, Ed)
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
While I agree that ESPN sources stink
The fact that Cutler has now been confirmed to have been discussed in trades (Schefter at NFL), I tend to believe I would be super pissed if I was Cutler. Why would he come out in the media and demand a trade, every time he is honest in the media, he gets blasted that he needs to shut up and play football. I am guessing he is talking to Bowln and now Bowlen is trying to fix this mess. Xanders and McD are beiing shown as snot nosed brats that understand little of the Broncos, and think this is Madden 09.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Did Cutler directly say that he wanted to be traded
or released, or anything like that? Because I STILL haven’t read anything about him asking for a trade/release.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
You guys need to read this....
Jedi McD is pretty on point, check this quote:
“He’s not the only person in the last few days we’ve received calls on,” McDaniels said. “We’ve received trade calls on a number of players, which is not uncommon this time of the year. I also think the sensitivity of the other trade that was occurring, with my relationship with New England and the whole Cassel thing, I think that stirred the pot even more.”
“We don’t want to trade Jay. We never did. He’s our quarterback. We’re excited about this season. And excited about what we’re doing here in free agency to improve our team.”
To be honest, I am with Jedi on this one. Cutler is coming across as a complete dick! Grow up you idiot….its not the Jay Cutler Broncos, its the Denver Broncos.
This from Cutler:
“"Anything can be mended,” he said. “I’ll always play with the guys we’ve got. I love playing for those guys. Obviously, Josh and I’s relationship has taken a few steps backward. I don’t play for the coaches anyway, I play for teammates. As long as we keep the guys we’ve got I’ll go out there and play. I love those guys.”
Jay, go talk to the team. It is obvious he has spoken to NO ONE at the club…obviously not directly to Jedi.
Grow up you dope!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
+1
Sorry but listening to offers is business and it is what McDaniels and Xanders are paid to do. It is their job. If they did entertain the idea of this trade then Way to go guys! You are doing your job.
Cutler’s job is to play football. Is it football season? No…good so shut the h*ll up and stop fratranizing with media hack jobs and showing everyone exactly how immature you really are. You are our friggin QB. Worry about being traded when and if it happens.
By the way, I think it is nuts to trade Jay. He is proven and is young…but you HAVE to consider options as a GM and HC. That is the business side of the sport.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
Schefter
Isn’t freaking out about it. Barely mentioned it in the lates FA Live Preview Show. I’m sure that Cutler is cheesed. He has every right to be. In the heat of the moment he may have said he wanted to be traded… in the heat of the moment.
Fact: Cutler has said he would love to remain a bronco.
Fact: Xanders has said they aren’t trading Cutler.
Cutler is going to be pissed off for awhile, but nothing is going to happen. All this will go out the window if we improve on last year. If not? Well, it could be the seeds of change.
J
Just read the post article....
Cutler wants to stay. They say he’s not going to be traded.
This is a product of the media trying to stir stuff up. It’s working, but nothing seems like it’s going to come of it.
J
by Jezru on Feb 28, 2009 6:25 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
finally one more person with sense
+17,000
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:26 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah,
I feel better after reading that. We’ll see how far this goes. Hopefully, Josh and Jay can work it out.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
I still don't see Cutler saying
that he has asked for a trade/release/whatever.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!
Say it Ain’t fuckin true Styg. Please man, say it ain’t fuckin true.
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You are all assuming
Do we all know what happens when you ASSume? (you make a bold word out of “u” and "me")
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
Why has McD not said anything?
My guess is because most of this BS is true and now he is facing a pissed off owner and star QB, McD, I think there are some flights back to New England leaving DIA shortly.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
I'm really starting to believe you can't read.
“He’s not the only person in the last few days we’ve received calls on,” McDaniels said. “We’ve received trade calls on a number of players, which is not uncommon this time of the year. I also think the sensitivity of the other trade that was occurring, with my relationship with New England and the whole Cassel thing, I think that stirred the pot even more.”
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:28 PM MST up reply actions
I can read fine
“My understanding at this point is they’re trying to trade me,” Cutler said this afternoon. “We’ll see where I end up at. I liked it here, I liked playing with these guys but obviously they’re not going to let me have that opportunity.”
Sounds like Jay knows they are trying to trade him, why do you have faith in a rookie HC that learned at the feet of one of the NFL historically insecure, bitter, and cheating coaches.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Why has McD not said anything?"
“McDaniels made a point of emphasis: ’We don’t want to trade Jay…”
But I think I’ve figured you out… you’re a converted raider fan, right? That would certainly explain a lot of things.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:41 PM MST up reply actions
Come on now.
We all have strong feelings on the subject, no need to start questioning other people’s fandom. Broncoman is as entitled to his opinion as we all are. Let’s stay off nasty personal attacks, please — we can disagree like adults without them.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
agreed
Lets not get all personal here were to good for that. I dare to say we all have some pretty deep feelings about this matter. My wife is trying to settle me down she thinks im gonna have a heart attack. I told here im not at that stage yet but if this goes much farther I may have to keep the phone close by for 911!
by broncosorbust on Feb 28, 2009 6:47 PM MST up reply actions
And then McDaniels made a point of emphasis: “We don’t want to trade Jay. We never did. He’s our quarterback. We’re excited about this season. And excited about what we’re doing here in free agency to improve our team.”
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:29 PM MST up reply actions
For further analysis
“I’m upset. I mean I’m really shocked at this point,” he said. “I could see why they want Cassel. I don’t know if they think I can’t run the system or I don’t have the skills for it. I just don’t get it. Or if they don’t think they can sign me with my next contract. I just don’t know what it is. I’ve heard I’m still on the trading block.”
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
A comment by Cutler
does not mean that Josh McDaniels hasn’t said anything.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:42 PM MST up reply actions
He's been told he's still on the trading block
If it wasn’t the case then McDaniels would of come out long ago and said this crap, but he basically waited until after he figure out he couldn’t get Cassle and now he is trying to cover his tracks, and you can shove the Raider fan crap up your ass.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
perhaps McDaniels has said something to Jay?
I mean, he certainly said something to America by saying: “We don’t want to trade Jay. We never did. He’s our quarterback.”
This is the MSM, this is what they do. Why do they do it? to get more website hits and make more off advertisers. They report the bad in order to build up interest.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:51 PM MST up reply actions
I agree...we are all passionate Broncos fans with our own opinions...
Lets not call anyone a Raider fan.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
And like HT requested
Use the lower case R when typing raiders.
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
yep...sorry...I am at the mercy of the court!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Broncoman...
Go read the frickin article on the DP. He is quoted for gods sake!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Feb 28, 2009 6:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I read the article
What would you expect the HC to say, yes I think Jay Cutler is worse than Matt Cassel and I did everything I could to get Cutler out of here and get Cassel here? He is reciting some tired BS trying to cover his tracks.
Once again, when would you ever entertain trading a young, franchise QB, coming off a pro-bowl season, answer is never, unless the Steelers wanted to trade you their starting defense, then the conversation ends quickly.
I for one am off the McD train.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
I'm not saying I know the guy
but I’ll assume, for reality’s sake, that you don’t either. Perhaps the assumptions should stop there. McDaniels is certainly doing something, we don’t know what it is, and we should all stop speculating.
"I could never quite get the hang of Thursdays..."
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
You and me were right to suspect a downfall
we called it right an stuck by it
by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 28, 2009 6:48 PM MST up reply actions
Xanders came out early and said they would never trade Cutler....
Anyway, got us all talking….defintely taken the gloss of some of our FA activity
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Were you ever on the train?
I still remember the Chin avatar with fondness : )
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
Article
I just read the Denver Post article and NOT ONCE did McDaniels say they thought about trading Jay. He said they have take calls on numerous players and that We Dont Want Trade Jay, We Never Did.
Is Jay blind….does he not see what Coach is saying.
Jay just needs to keep his mouth shut and take it up with the staff and his agent.
Way toooo much DRAMA in one day!!!
by FLCubsGirl on Feb 28, 2009 6:29 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
He
said she said crap. Jay grow up the only person not tradeable is Bowlen.
The only difference between insanity and genius is perception.
WAIT!
We are all overlooking the good news here! Matt Cassell is going to be installed as the Chief’s “franchise QB” (at least until they realize who Matt Casselll is once he’s out of the NE uni). That’s great news!
J
by Jezru on Feb 28, 2009 6:34 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Exactly.
Go ahead. Put faith in a career #2.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Well...
There seem to definitely be some hurt feelings and problems. Ths is McD first need to really prove his mettle as a coach and apply some serous damage control. Time for McD to show if he can really lead or not.
What the hell
I hope this is a load of crap, Jay Cutler is the best thing to happen to Denver in many years. He is a great palyer and will continue to grow. If Jay Cutler said he wants out of Denver then I guess hw should be gone. If he does not want to be a Bronco, then I do not want him. That is sad to say but it is true
I was just thinking
Do you thing Brian Dawkins would have really signed if they were trying to Trade cutler. I do not think so. You think they would tell a player like Brian Dawkins news like this before they tried to sign him. I do not think they were trying to trade him but they received some calls. Every team fields calls. Who knows though, it has been a crazy day.
by gnarlybroncodude on Feb 28, 2009 6:50 PM MST reply actions
Oh, fuck.
(Sorry)
Hopefully this is more BSM BS, but if it isn’t, then I say trade his spoiled punk ass immediately. If the man doesn’t know how business works, then he is worth nothing to me. Hopefully, that is not the case. I believe McDaniels. I believe that he was presented with a trade for a first rounder and Cassel. They thought about it. They said no.
Honestly, I don’t know what to think about this. Hopefully it’s all just a misunderstanding and we can all laugh about it tomorrow.
I'm the Hiphopopotamous, flows that glow like phosphorous. I'm poppin' off the top of this esophagus, rockin' this metropolis. I'm not a large water-dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis? Did Steve tell you that, perchance? Steve...
I feel like
everyone should take a deep breath for the night and let some tempers settle, we’re having some flare-ups here. Sleep on it, so to speak, see what news there is tomorrow. At the moment, we’re just going in circles, and speculating madly isn’t going to help very much. Come on everyone, let’s not bite each other’s heads off here. It’s a delicate topic and perhaps we should wait until we know something more conclusive. Lots of time to go yet.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
I'm sure Guru will straighten it all out on MHR Radio
Also, I want to see Cutler on the news tonight. I personally think the MSM is blowing smoke, but….
I think you’re right. Let’s stop using Occam’s Razor to this until we get some definitive evidence.
I'm the Hiphopopotamous, flows that glow like phosphorous. I'm poppin' off the top of this esophagus, rockin' this metropolis. I'm not a large water-dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis? Did Steve tell you that, perchance? Steve...
Dude MHR Radio is on tontght ...... its gonna get a lot more craizer around here in 45 min
by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 28, 2009 6:53 PM MST up reply actions
True
But things were getting a little heated in here, especially for the moment. I think everyone needs to use a time-out and then get back into the field after that.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
The team seems on the verge of being ripped apart
by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 28, 2009 7:00 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, we're all worried about that.
There are a lot of people who owe each other apologies/explanations. Not a good way to start off any season. Hopefully they’re all adults and will be able to fix this, if not, it gets ugly.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
Who started this mess A head coach and a GM That dont know what the hell they
are doing at the moment
by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 28, 2009 6:51 PM MST reply actions
Agreed, why the hell they would even contemplate this is beyond me
What’s next, the Raiders called and want to trade Javon Walker for Brandon Marshall, well we had to think about the offer, we didn’t want to be rude…give me a break.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
MCD DOESN'T HAVE ULTIMATE POWER.
Even if he was presented with such a trade, he would have to put it by Bowlen and Xanders first. Then they would all say no and move along. He can’t just veto anything he wants, and neither can Xanders.
I'm the Hiphopopotamous, flows that glow like phosphorous. I'm poppin' off the top of this esophagus, rockin' this metropolis. I'm not a large water-dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis? Did Steve tell you that, perchance? Steve...
+1
"We don’t want to trade Jay. We never did. He’s our quarterback." —Josh McDaniels.
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
I agree, but I am guessing that he was working pretty hard to get it done
My guess is that he took it to Bowlen and Bowlen shot it down (thankfully), but for it to get tothis stage is what is troubling, why would you even entertain the idea. Cassel is somehow better than Cutler, will be better?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
How do we know who was pushing for what?
McD’s explanation seems pretty reasonable to me.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
Good call Papi...
Sorry i posted the bloody thing….and to Broncoman and philly….no disrespect meant from me boys….just passionate too!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
None taken mate i understand ......
just opinions we are all upset bu the unthinkable right now and no one can really get
straight answers from anybody right now just rumors !
by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 28, 2009 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
I am on jays side of this because i really dont like our head coach !
I wanted an established coach like bill cower or shottenheimer
by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 28, 2009 6:58 PM MST up reply actions
Thats a little unfair....
I think Jay has not helped himself with going straight to the press. That reeks of immaturity. Thats only my opinion though.
I can tell you right now that SHotty and Cowher would have looked long and hard at that trade. They may have even accepted it with the styles of play they run.
An extra first to help build defense plus a pretty good Qb…they would have taken that!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I will agree 100 % he is inmature .someone should have reached ot to him from the
front office to calm him down bad move on there part for not doing so sooner .
by broncosfaninphilly on Feb 28, 2009 7:06 PM MST up reply actions
What I Don't Like
Is how Jay is going to the media to voice his displeasure.
Whatever the hell’s going on, take it up with the people involved WITHIN the Bronx organization.
Just for shits and giggles, I'll join the reasonless madness...
Can anyone say L.A. Broncos?
"We don’t want to trade Jay. We never did. He’s our quarterback." —Josh McDaniels.
Oh God
Dont even go there. I dont think I can take another shock I am already a nervous wreck!
by broncosorbust on Feb 28, 2009 7:03 PM MST up reply actions
If that happened I would consider suicide.
Not really, though. And no offense to suicidal people.
I'm the Hiphopopotamous, flows that glow like phosphorous. I'm poppin' off the top of this esophagus, rockin' this metropolis. I'm not a large water-dwelling mammal, where did you get that preposterous hypothesis? Did Steve tell you that, perchance? Steve...
What about the Honolulu Starfish.....
Bowlen being Canadian, they could be the Toronto Beavers.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Feb 28, 2009 7:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I honestly can't believe
any of you would respond to this. The fact that any of you could just leap onto a story of this magnitude without all the facts astounds me, and nearly pushes me to the brink of closing my SBNathion account.
"We don’t want to trade Jay. We never did. He’s our quarterback." —Josh McDaniels.
by FlaBroncoFan on Feb 28, 2009 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure
everyone is responding in the same tenor you were in introducing it. I know I was. Don’t worry. Like I said… everyone needs some time to relax.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
by Silverblood on Feb 28, 2009 7:06 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
For God's Sake
You must be a conspiracy theorist and maybe have been watching too much “In Search Of…”
Im seriously
In a bad state here. It may sound crazy but I love my Broncos that much and I am on the verge I think of having a breakdown. Call me crazy but my hands are trembeling at the thought of losing our Q.B.!!
Hey, I am with SIlverblood....
Totally cool to have opinions. WE ALL LOVE OUR BRONCOS! But we all are on this site to discuss, come up with scenarios and give our opinions.
It should not be personal.
I dont agree with everyone, but it does not mean I am right and they are wrong….
The sky is not falling….its football…..Denver will have a team next year….we will all agree or disgaree and will get on with it.
I dont want Jay to leave…I dont think anyone does.
Lets see how it shakes out!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Thanks for the backup
Just trying to keep a voice of reason here. The reason it excites such strong reactions is because, of course, we all love our football team.
Aue tehan-deoes shaj do’ ai poyene slueden!
I was kidding about Toronto and Honolulu too.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I will sign out until MHR, oh the pain!
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Maybe we can also get Mike Vick.
I’m leaving for the night. I’m sorry for any offense I may have caused… even to you, Broncoman. I’ll be enjoying my highschool life for another night… seeing as it’s almost over for me.
Good night all, and I’m sorry again (though you really are all overreacting to a story without enough merit yet)
"We don’t want to trade Jay. We never did. He’s our quarterback." —Josh McDaniels.
No worries brocnofan...
Thanks for the passion.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
This is all really stupid.
McD & Co. get a trade offer…they look it over, and turn it down. There’s NO EVIDENCE McD/Xander were gunning for this trade or that they were the ones pursuing it. All the evidence is that the other teams came to them.
I think Jay is overreacting and I hope they can calm him down. It’s obvious they don’t actually want to trade him. I would be pissed to hear I was being considered for a trade, but he has to understand that’s the business, and that at the end of the day they had no actual desire to trade him, and they’re sure as hell not going to do it now, who’s left to get in return?
The Bill Williamson article is just typical MSM bullshit, trying to draw attention where none is merited.
Why
would anyone take Cassel over Jay straight up, If they were serious they would include 1st and 2nd RD picks. Look what the Giants gave up 4 Eli, this story has no merit in my mind. We are all now dumber for listening and writing about this CRAP!!!!!! I love the Broncos and will continue to no matter who plays for this/my team. Trade everyone for all I care blow it up and I will still love my Broncos. I’ve been a fan for more than thirty years and will continue til the day I die. If you don’t like what’s happening then root for some other team and don’t let the orange and blue hit you on the ass on the way out.
The only difference between insanity and genius is perception.
Love your passion Markus....bring it on!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
You can not like what is happening
and still be a Broncos fan. I didn’t like Dan R. bringing in Tommy Maddox to replace Elway either. I hope things work out (especially between Broncoman FlaBroncoFan).
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
Agreed....we need calmer heads to prevail at Dove Valley and at MHR
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I think McD needs to find this 'source' and shut him up (fire him)
I believe whoever gave BM the information sounds like someone with an axe to grind. Maybe he was loyal to the Goodman’s or Shanny, but to leak this and say that Cutler is pissed and want’s to be traded is crap. Until I hear from Cutler himself, I’m ignoring this.
A little bit of a misnomer, for you will find no solace here.
Thanks
Boydy, I grew up in Ma. and at the age of 7 I became a Broncos fan. I took a lot of shit from the Mass assholes especially during the Losing SB years. I wouldn’t trade my team for anything, not even Jay Cutler!
The only difference between insanity and genius is perception.
the interview
jay didn’t say anything immature, he just stated that he was shocked and that he wants to be back in denver, the onus is on mcd to explain himself to jay and to us. ive been really pleased with mcxanders up until now, hope they change my mind.
OK
Me being in high school I see this all the time. Jay is over reacting to something he heard without sitting down and talking to McD or X. He is the man in Denver. Did they entertain a trade offer? Of course it’s a buisness and it would be stupid for them not to listen. Actually we don’t even know what was said in the “trade” talks so everyone (jay too) needs to calm down and TALK and listen to eachother.
bye bye DRE
Maybe dawkins made a mistake
Dawkins probably wants out now with the increased turmoil in the denver broncos organization. I wonder what he thinks of the situation. Any quotes from B. dawkins regarding this standoff from Cutler and the broncos.
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