Stacking up the Pile: Defensive Tackles Ranked
by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 2:00 PM MST
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I have reached my next to last evaluation stage on all the DTs that I intended to cover for the 2009 draft. All that is left at this point is to answer any questions related to these prospects that can be addressed at the combine.
Some notes about how I am going to line out this list: First, I am listing them in the order that they are likely to go off the board, not how I have them personally rated against eachother. To get this inital order I have averaged a sample of mock drafts and draft analysis sites with histories of proper valuation, including WalterFootball.com and NFL DraftCountdown.com. I then rank the players by a star (***) system, with more stars meaning a better fit, or more clearly addresses a need, etc. For the most part I have thrown out players that I do not care to evaluate for the purposes of the Broncos roster. DTs like Chris Baker, Hampton, are not worth my time, no matter their talent. If you feel otherwise, by all means cover them!
The profile pages for many of these prospects, while included, are sparse on information, and many of them are late round guys with only my own information provided, as no one else has any info up for them yet. Two points about this: One, that means some bias. You would do well to keep tabs on players I rank highly, in order to stay objective about them. Two, the short notes in the profile page are only the tip of the iceberg, from scanning my handwritten notes. It takes time to get them into a database, so copy/paste isn't available to me on most of them yet, and space is limited in the profiles. That means if you have additional questions about the prospects, Please Ask! Overall, I would say this DT class is much deeper than last years class, and I see prospects in every round that could find roles and good fits in Denver.
Lets check out the rankings:
DT-BJ Raji
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BJ Raji, Boston College: Raji looks to have stormed into the top ten, and with any luck, he will be gone before we pick. The reason I say that, is despite how well he fits what we are doing scheme wise, he is a poor fit for a team looking for character and defensive leaders. Motivation issues abound with him, and he plays inconsistently. Some team will get a talented, but high-maintenance player, and I just hope it isn't us, because if he is there at #12, it will be tough to find anyone else who rates higher than five stars. |
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DT-Peria Jerry
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Peria Jerry, Mississippi: Peria has the motivation and high motor that Raji lacks, but is less than ideal to anchor a 3-4. As a 4-3 3-tech he is an undeniable talent. Does he rate, high enough to be drafted at #12? Depends on who is left. I rate him at four stars, and I think the Broncos should be targeting 5 stars or better with the #12. |
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DT-Evander Hood
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Evander Hood, Missouri: The middle of the second round may be too early for Hood, but he has a tremendous football attitude and ethic. But as a NT he may not be the ideal choice. Sliding him over to DE in the 3-4 would suit him well, and provide a significant runstopping and pocket collapsing presence. My guess is that we would end up weighing his value against any number of talented safeties and LBs at this spot, but his four star rating may be hard to beat. |
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DT-Sen'derrick Marks
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Sen'derrick Marks, Auburn: This prospect should only be looked at as a rushing DE. Spotty track records with character and injuries make me lean towards dismissing him altogether, but he has legitimate talent with good speed. As a two star fit with the Broncos he won't be able to slip down the boards far enough for Denver to consider him. |
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DT-Ron Brace
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Ron Brace, Boston College: Brace looks and plays much like Raji, though he has much less talent. He, too, suffers from motivation issues, and benefitted greatly from routine one-on-ones. He did show an ability to handle double teams, but a recurring back injury makes me uneasy about competing for his services. Not enough talent here to pursue him aggressively, but if he slips to the middle of the fourth, his three star fit at NT could net us some needed size and depth. |
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DT-Fili Moala
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Fili Moala, USC: While Fili may have the size to be considered a NT (and he could easily add more), the Broncos would be better off passing on this limited prospect. Moala has an amazing motor and intensity, but is reckless, and will undoubtedly have problems absorbing the playbook of a 3-4 scheme. He lacks the versatility to be both run and pass as a NT, and has limited value at DE. He would however be a tremendous help in the run game, and he is one of the few NT prospects that I am confident would adjust well to altitude. As a mid third round pick, his four star value should hold its own against possible oline considerations. Earlier than that and Denver is taking a chance on a rotational player that is doubtful to start from day one. |
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DT-Dorell Scott
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Dorell Scott, Clemson: If Scott's late season injuries check out, and Denver hasn't looked at significant tackle depth to this point, Dorell should draw a long hard look. Some of the best dline coaching in college occurs at Clemson, and he shows a high technical grasp of his position. He could be an easy choice to move to DE in the 3-4, where he would provide both rush and pass support. My one worry is that he seems to need more conditioning, an issue that will be overlooked at the combine. As a fifth or later his three star value could net us a powerful hybrid for the 3-4/4-3. |
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DT-Vance Walker
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Vance Walker, Georgia Tech: With luck, Walker will draw teams fire if they are looking DT in the fourth, which would allow prospects like Scott and Taylor to slip to later. Walker would suit the DT depth considerations of a 4-3, and he could possibly move to DE in the 3-4, but overall he is a poor fit for the Broncos going forward. Two stars virtually guarantee that the Broncos will look elsewhere. |
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DT-Terrance Taylor
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Terrance Taylor, Michigan: Denver would be very lucky to pick up this 4-star value in the fifth. He should be the last "pure" NT prospect to come off the board, and thus represents Denver's last realistic chance to cull a starter who could start for many teams. Taylor has significant conditioning issues, and if he addresses them before the combine, expect his stock to start to soar. A fit and conditioned Taylor could be a good find even in the third. |
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DT-Corvey Irvin
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Corvey Irvin, Georgia: This junior transfer to the Bulldogs filled in for an injured starter admirably, and should be strongly considered as a developmental prospect. His natural speed and size, coupled with strident efforts to get stronger create a package of potential that will require teams to start considering him early. In my opinion, Denver should pass and look for better value, but three stars may be hard to beat in the fifth round. |
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DT-Sammie Lee Hill
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Sammie Lee Hill, Stillman: This high character player is low value enigma. Two stars may seem low for a player with the terrific character of Hill and the incredible size, but this may be a case where the Broncos need to stay true to the fundamentals of their (likely) system. For all his girth and will, Hill has epic trouble beating double teams, and his coaches actually went out of their way to find ways to get him lined up one-on-one. He can be taken out of the game very easily and altitude may be the wrong place to try to teach him to take on double teams. A terriffic young man, but a poor fit for the 3-4 NT. For the truly adventurous, trying him at End is a possiblity, but reeks of gimmick. |
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DT-Ra'Shon Harris
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Ra'shon Harris, Oregon: This high potential prospect rates out at two stars. Limited playing time, a biceps tear, and delayed development should send his stock to the latest parts of the draft. As a developmental prospect, he is a terrific fit and value for Denver in the sixth-seventh. He struggles with many aspects of the game, like learning to use his hands, not letting his height count against him or sticking with the play. But his ability to handle double teams is for real. He even shows flashes of being able to split double teams, making him even more versatile. The sixth round isn't too early to look at Harris as a practice squader with a bright future at NT. |
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DT-Darryl Richard
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Darryl Richard, Georgia Tech: The most underrated player on the Yellowjackets line, he may also be its most legitimate. The complicated attacking scheme has put his linemates high in the draft, where I feel they are overvalued, but Richard's leadership and intelligence, as well as his consistent production and ability to battle double teams as well as any player in the draft out side of the 1st round, make Richard my DT Steal of the Draft. His intelligence can't be rated highly enough in my opinion, and he is a lockerroom leader who gets the most out of his teammates. I have some questions about his conditioning which will be answered at the combine, as well as questions about his reconstructed knee (after freshman season). But in the seventh round I think he is a surefire selection and a huge value. 3 stars in the seventh is going to be very hard to beat, and would make him a consideration even in the sixth. |
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DT-Khalif Mitchell
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Khalif Mitchell, ECU: Mitchell's size and athleticism are rare and will get a very serious look if he lasts until the seventh round. Unfortunately he doesn't quite seem to have control of all his faculties at this time. He was a late career transfer, but he flashes some terrific potential for such a late Dline pick. I would actually bump him up to a three star, except that I think he would fit best as a 3-4 end, where he could adapt to his skills more naturally, and he has some ankle and foot injuries that need to be cleared. As is, I believe he checks in at two stars. |
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DT-Roy Miller
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Roy Miller, Texas: This one really intrigues me, and I would be 100% behind Denver going after him as a CFA. But the risk may be too high if he starts to climb up into the earlier rounds. The tape doesn't lie, and Miller made significant contributions to the Longhorns defensive efforts. But he is a poor fit for Denver at NT, and I don't believe Denver should be targetting DE late in the draft, unless they have a history of beating double teams. Miller plays on the lighter, quicker side of the 300-lb benchmark, and his special teams contributions alone would be worth the price. With luck he could be one of the highest rated CFAs on Denver's board, but he won't remain unnoticed for long. Two stars. |
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DT-John Faletoese
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John Faletoese, Cal Davis: This one star CFA prospect is a pure football player, making up for what he lacks in size and strength with the tenacity and technical knowhow that could make him a good developmental prospect as a DT/DE hybrid. Outside of college free agency I can't see Denver spending the time to acquire him, but there aren't likely to be a whole lot of fits of even one star caliber floating around at that point. Denver will have to consider his level of competition however, and decide if his dominance is more a reflection of him, or them. |
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can you provide a link to their profile pages?
Great stuff styg…if only I worked half as hard at my real job. I’d be President of the University. ;-) Then again, that could be construed as an insult as very few government employees put out much effort. I like the value of a Terrance Taylor though. I’d even be okay with the Broncos reaching for him in the early fourth round or something…just because he is considered 5th round talent doesn’t mean he isn’t worth a 4th rounder for us.
Rec’d…great post man. Where are the links to their profile pages though? I’ve seen them because I can use my, ah, editorial powers to find them….other than that I must not be looking in the right public place. lol :)
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by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 2:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'll link it up
I knew I forgot something… :)
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 2:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
done and done
the title bars link them and the name in the notes links them.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
bitchin'. I knew that is what you had intended to do. :)
fyi to all, you can also keep up with the NFL Draft info, by clicking the “2009 NFL DRAFT” near the title. That section is going to have gobs of information by the time the draft rolls around. :)
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Styg...
Great stuff…keep it coming!!
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by Steve O' on Feb 3, 2009 2:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
There is still a lot to do
but I hope to do something similar for ther rest of the positions of need for denver, and then to lump the rest of the particulalry striking prospects together in a last group. In my mind that means the ILB, 3-4 DEs, FS. Secondary positions are RB, WR, CB, OLB, TE, backup QB.
Then come draft day I can compile my 6-, 5-, 4-, 3-, 2- and 1-star prospects together and start fine tuning my read on how the goodmans scout talent and what McDaniels is looking for. I am only mildly trying to guess who Denver is looking at. The real benefit comes after the draft is over and I can ask why a certain player they took wasn’t on any of my lists. Then next time, maybe my list will be more accurate.
I’m hoping McDaniels will bea round a while, so it doesn’t hurt to get started now…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 3:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
of course I forgot kicker and punter
Though I haven’t looked at ANY kickers. Which is fine, since I don’t know what to look for anyways!
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 3:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
I’ve got kickers covered.
There’s nothin there.
The end.
I am Jack's unbridled optimism.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 4, 2009 1:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Consider my database updated..
Is that nothing with one zero or two…?
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 8:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If you need anything drop me a line...
be glad to help!!
"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!
by Steve O' on Feb 3, 2009 3:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If I think of something
you’ll be my first option. Thanks!
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 4:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Work!
The only grades for DT I’ll need this year. You da man!
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by Steve Nichols on Feb 3, 2009 3:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No problem!
Your position by position breakdown for the 3-4 was huge for me, and I am still absorbing some of its ramifications for the Ends.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 8:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant!
I’m with you; I’d take a LB over Raji. I’d love Taylor in the fourth. That’d make my mock go something like this: 1) Rey Maualuga 2) Patrick Chung 3) Shonn Green 4) Terrance Taylor. Now, if we could pick up the QB from Harvard or Tulsa in the 7th and fill in the rest of it… My mock is almost done!
Also, Isn’t it Peria Jerry? I thought Jerry was his last name.
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by papigrande on Feb 3, 2009 4:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
whoops
copy/paste from the prospect liston the draftivus page…. I am shocked I only missed one…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 4:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
dudes mom should be slapped for giving him a last name for a first name like that.
I’m going to name my next kid, O’Donnell Jack. First I got to change my last name to Jack. :)
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 4:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
turns out I didn’t forget to flip one, it was just wrong on the draftivus page… :) Both fixed at any rate.
I have notes on several QBs that will end up checking in around one star for Denver, but the two you mention Pizo and Johnson, and possibly the others as well may all end up undrafted, so Denver may hedge against the position and just wait till after the draft. I don’t think Hackney will have staying power under McDaniels, but I do expect at least 3 QBs in camp. McDaniels knows how important it is to be ready for the unthinkable. As durable as Cutler has been, I would be tempted to say that we should have one vet and two rookies backing up in camp, but I don’t want the vet to be Ramsey. I have no idea what free agent QBs would be worth considering though. If denver really wants a backup QB from the draft, I don’t think they could lose looking at Carpenter from Torain’s alma mater, or Harper, the Clemson guy who did nothing at the senior bowl, or Painter, out of Purdue. Anyone of the three might be in the seventh or later, so why not nab one with the pick we traded for? They all have the kind of upside you like in a rookie backup: Painter has the arm, if he can get some coaching on his release, in a couple of years he will be tradeable. Harper is an all around guy, no arm strength, but accurate. He could be tradeable if he gets some work on his release too, and matures a little in his reads. Carpenter is hard to describe… imagine Bradlee Van Pelt, only, picture him actually able to play QB… kind of. Carpenter is one of those smart players like Pizo who could be a career backup but be a true contributor to the team with his knowledge of the game. This is a good year to address the backup situation, and I think Cutler has made the strides necessary for Denver to feel better if his backup isn’t a FA wily vet.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 3, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Shonn Green.
Isn’t he a high second round pick? A third round RB at our position would more likely be someone more like Donald Brown, no?
by ejruiz on Feb 3, 2009 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard anywhere from 2 to 4.
So I went in the middle :) Really, it’s all speculation until the combine; then we’ll get a true feeling about when guys are going to go.
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by papigrande on Feb 3, 2009 5:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
This post sounds familiar ;D
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 4, 2009 1:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
same mock that i have us doing
except i have ron brace instead of taylor but now i think brace will go higher
83 days til draft...
by robbo650 on Feb 3, 2009 7:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Baker -- Hampton
One of the underclassmen that declared and will be considered by the Broncos is Chris Baker.
I’m not criticizing his omission but we need to be aware of him, especially since he’s projected anywhere from as high as a 3-4th rounder (WalterFootball) and as low as a 5-6th rounder (DraftScout), which puts him in an ideal spot for the Broncos.
There are red flags on him for behavior, however. I want to acknowledge this fact but I don’t know whether or not it should preclude our drafting him.
PS — he could play either DE or NT, and that could increase his value for 3-4 teams. I’ve had my eyes on other DT/DE hybrids, although I’m open to input as to whether this emphasis is misplaced. Another example — Alex Magee, Purdue.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 4:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't seem like a guy the Goodman's would put on their list of talented character guys.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 4:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
AGREED
I didn’t find the character concerns until I started the post. “Frequent …off-field incidents” certainly doesn’t sound good, but most sites haven’t seen fit to make an issue of this — as of yet, anyways.
We can always decide he’s a poor prospect but we can’t make that decision if he’s omitted. I’d prefer to know more than ambiguous references to “incidents.” Micheal Pittman wouldn’t meet a strict behavioral standard, so I prefer specifics rather than nebulous allusion to “character problems.” BTW — I haven’t seen character problems with Raji, so I’m not taking that red flag seriously until it’s proven to a greater degree.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 5:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm curious to find out why he transferred out of Penn State to a smaller school...
was he kicked or forced to leave Penn State because of these off-field issues?
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 5:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yuck. Let them go join that unnamed running back we drafted a few years back in the third round.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not getting that
His record doesn’t fit with “unnamed RB” mold, IMHO. I won’t say that there aren’t athletes who we should keep at least a ten-foot-pole’s distance away from but I’m not getting that ‘read’ on him.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 6:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was probably being a bit harsh....never again take a chance like we did on that unnamed RB. ;-)
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 6:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maurice Clarett?
Right?
Is that who we’re talkin about?
Right?
Sorry. It’s one of those nights.
I am Jack's unbridled optimism.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 4, 2009 1:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Gasp!
You must not mention He who must not be named!
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 4, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Repent!!!
Repent, SlamDunkTheFunk!!!!!
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by papigrande on Feb 4, 2009 12:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, what a feel good story about a good guy who has gotten the raw deal....
It was written last year and he was since kicked out of the school and was forced to go play at a smaller school that would tolerate the convictions. Obviously the fights were vicious enough to warrant such severe disciplinary action. No Thanks…I’ll pass. Go play for the raiders.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 6:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just remember David Kircus....
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 6:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I respectfully disagree
The DA’s office offered a plea (as they always do) and he accepted probation. The problems at PSU were highly publicized and so there was was a strong incentive for Paterno to hold someone responsible and act to remedy a huge public relations problem for the team.
I would take a different position entirely if he showed a history of violence or aggression. All I’m getting off this so far is that he was in two fights.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 6:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
JUST NOTICED
I was guilty of skimming the opening paragraphs. Styg said he wasn’t going to cover Baker. I’ve been jumping around doing too many things at the same time.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 9:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
One more -- Myron Pryor
There’s actually more but I’ll limit it to this addition — Myron Pryor.
I see him as fitting the NT prototype, but also as a late rounder who still has untapped potential.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 5:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I like this guy. If he falls to FA then we should sign him to our practice squad and see if we can develop him some.
Not the answer for 2009 though. He may even be a good DE prospect in the 3-4. I wish I watched college ball…hate having to depend on other peoples’ analysis.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 5:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Pryor
I wish I could say that I’ve seen more of him. He was in the Shrine and looked like he had a NT’s build, but didn’t look very explosive.
He’s a late pick/FA who could develop into something down the line. Projecting DLs is tough, I won’t lie. There’s enough there in his stats and level of competition, body type, etc., to make him a ‘firm possible.’ I’d like to see more.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
"I’d like to see more."
Hint Hint Styg50. :)
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 6:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the delay! :)
the internets kicked me off since last night, but I’m good to go now…
Pryor is solid, but I think he will be a guy with very limited upside. I rated him at zero stars, mainly because he struggles against double teams, and what little success he has comes from a natural leverage advantage. Good centers gave him fits, and that is all he will see in the NFL. I see him as having a very limited ceiling at NT, and as such, I am hoping that Denver wouldn’t look at him until FA. One thing about him: I have no knowledge of any kind of intelligence, leadership or character issues…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 8:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
watching college football clouds your judgements
A fan of the Florida Gators am I. High i was on Jarvis. Believing still am i that he will be good.
83 days til draft...
by robbo650 on Feb 3, 2009 7:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel it takes away from my homerish ability during draft season.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 4, 2009 10:26 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually don't watch any college ball
on regular TV that is. Oh, I catch a bowl game every so often if it seems exciting, and I watch Boise State when they are on. All of my prospect watching is on-demand torrents. You can watch almost any game, and popular games can be downloaded at amazing resolutions. But even ECU games can be watched with good, clear resolutions.
The trick is having enough space, and obeying the leech-load dynamics. For uploading I have a separate cpu with two dvd-rw with two choice games on it, running 24-7. It works pretty good most of the time. The space requirement gets you because sometimes you just have to be done looking at a guy, so that you can delete his games and start downloading the next guy. I’m still learning how to structure my schedule, but I hit on a pretty good formula this year. It can be tweaked, but barring some major setback I think I might have it figured out, finally.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 8:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
1TB Slave drives
are going for 110 bucks on newegg right now. When the new 100GB BluRay blank discs are released, I’m upgrading to a BluRay burner and space will no longer be a problem. Throw 3 decent HDs in there, and let the slave drives work. When you reach a certain limit, just kick back and enjoy the burning/downloading all at the same time.
I am Jack's unbridled optimism.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 4, 2009 11:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Easy Tiger!!
Beautiful setup no doubt, but you are talking to aguy still running win2k!!!! And that is my NEW computer!
I actually just got my first external drive, 500GB, so I am advancing, just kind of slowly…
I think Guru winces a little whenever I insist on talking to him about my “rig”… :)
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 11:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
"rig" is right. Lol.
That’s how I keep all of my stuff set up and categorized. TV Tuner goes in the computer, set up recording schedules, games are recorded at a certain resolution and are downloaded on to the specified hard drive, and whenever I reach a certain limit, they get burned on to DVDs and thrown into the catalogs. Whenever I need to pull out tape for whatever reason, it’s in there. Very convenient setup for the draftnik.
I am Jack's unbridled optimism.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 5, 2009 6:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
where do we get our NT from
or who do you want from the draft as a NT??
by RiG on Feb 3, 2009 5:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Terrance Taylor sounds like a good prospect.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 3, 2009 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
re: Taylor
He’s clearly got the power and lower leg strength that we’d want in a NT. His senior year dropped him down the board, though. I can’t tell if there are reasons for concern or if we should treat his situation as a falling value who’s still a good fit at a lower spot. Speaking generally, not every player has a banner senior year and that’s not necessarily an indication of a problem.
by Colinski on Feb 3, 2009 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really understand why Terrance dropped
he’s kind of a flaboid, and I really don’t want him if he comes into the combine still out of shape (out of shape is a relative term for NTs, of course), but he was still productive despite that.
One rationale I have heard recently, that I can see the merit to, is that he is being penalized for an overall lackluster season for the whole Michigan team. I didn’t analyze very many michigan players, so I can’t speak much to the talent around him, but the impression I get is that the program as a whole underperformed. Fifth round I think he is a steal, if he gets in shape and takes the combine seriously I think he would be a good pick mid-draft, but other any other situations would probably pit his value against much better values at other positions….
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 8:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
going on the reports
Taylor put up some impressive numbers in the weight room and was also a stellar wrestler, which only makes his poor conditioning even more puzzling, and that’s been a knock on him in evaluations.
I’m troubled by any player who’s not in shape, especially a NT. Taylor’s draft projections fell along with Michigan’s results during his senior season but that doesn’t account for his poor showing in the Shrine one-on-ones.
I don’t know what to say on this guy, or for the entire crop of NTs. We’re in a dilemma with the NT crop. Taylor is one of the few true NT types on the surface but he’s got some glaring flaws. I’ve come to the conclusion that we better use Thomas at NT even if it’s not an ideal position for him.
by Colinski on Feb 5, 2009 12:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry, I think is the most interesting option
I was of the belief that you had to have a big fat ass as a NT, but after watching what Darnell Docket did against the Steelers, I am not so sure if that will be the case. Maybe getting a quick DT that can simply beat guys up the gut on speed may be the wave of the future, a throw back to greg kragen. If he doesn’t work out at NT, he would make an ideal end in a 3-4 with Thomas, and then maybe see if we could get Gabe Watson from Arizona, he is a free agent and they already have three NT on the team.
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by Broncoman on Feb 3, 2009 5:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think it's important to remember
that while Dockett did play great, that O-line sucks.
I am Jack's unbridled optimism.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Feb 4, 2009 1:38 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Jerry
but because he isn’t likely to step in as a runstopper (though that may come with time) I would lean towards seeing if he could be had with the #2 pick. I honestly think that when the chips fall, Denver is going to target a 6-star prospect (or whatever you consider to be a top grading). So far, outside of the top ten players in the draft, I only have Knowshon that high, but I am not done with ILB yet, specifically REYge. I like everything I have seen so far from rey-rey, but I haven’t yet put it all together with his character, and other intangibles. My one warning on rey at this stage: it is hard to separate him from the talent around him, and in a lot of the obvious separations I have seen, such as one on ones versus a cutting runner, or drop back responsibilities in zone, he doesn’t grade out at the top. But he is still capable of being a 6-star prospect, at least by my method and way of thinking about it.
My overall guess on Peria is that he will be outclassed by other positions at #12, and unavailable at #48, with Hood being the next best consideration at that point, and also more of the DE type that Peria is, but just a shade less talented and consistent.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 9:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Sammie Lee Hill played or could play OLB??
by RiG on Feb 3, 2009 6:19 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He was tried there
Re: His Tales: – He was played at a lot of positions, even kicker. That’s a great personal interest thing, I thought, but styg is right – he was tried at DE for two reasons. One was to take away the run on that side – he’s surprisingly quick as well as huge. The other was to remove him from double teams, since he didn’t handle them that well. As a possible NT, that could be a matter of coaching or a serious red flag. I didn’t get to see enough film to justify any feelings one way or another.
On the other hand, if you have a running back stuck in a burning building at night, he’s probably your guy. Nice fella, from all reports, but his talent may not be quite there. He could be a late bloomer – someone will take that chance.
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by Emmett Smith on Feb 4, 2009 3:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Post styg! This is a lot of info to digest!
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
Hillis=Cowbell. You can’t have too much. styg 01/29/09
by firstfan on Feb 3, 2009 7:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Question
What is a 5 technique or 3 or 0 NT
83 days til draft...
by robbo650 on Feb 3, 2009 7:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Look in the MHR University section.
HT has written several outstanding posts on this that have made us all bettter Bronco fans.
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
Hillis=Cowbell. You can’t have too much. styg 01/29/09
by firstfan on Feb 4, 2009 4:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
HT explains it better than I could.
I remember the techniques by visualizing the correct shoulder of the corresponding offensive lineman. So when I think “3-tech” I immediately picture the outside shoulder of the guard, 2-tech, inside shoulder of guard and so on. Also, it goes from zero to 7tech by going from the center out to the outside shoulder of the blocking TE.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 8:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic stuff...
I really think we get our best articles in the offseason. Makes me keep wanting to come back…
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Feb 3, 2009 8:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the hard work styg! Great information!
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Feb 4, 2009 7:33 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Lots of good insight here, Styg. Thanks for your work.
Several weeks ago – sorry I don’t remember who did this good work – someone posted on possible NT already in the NFL that may be available. The 2 of you have given me some really good perspective. There will be pretty good competition for NTs if the Packers and Chiefs both go to 3-4. I read a comment on MHR that both these teams could go to 3-4. My guess is that we will run some sort of hybrid defense to utilize our personal best. I don’t look for a starter coming from the draft at the NT position. That is quite a jump.
by Blackknigh on Feb 4, 2009 10:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure who you are talking about
by my first thought was Colinski talking about Cole in Green Bay…
I think a runstopping rotational “starter” could certainly be culled from the draft, but not an every down guy like Haynesworth. Raji probably isn’t quite consistent enough to meet the label, and the other “starter” capable talents project on the outside or as undertackles.
And I am totally on board witht ehposters who are talking about the hybrid 3-4/4-3. It just seems to make the most sense, and makes a guy like Evander Hood pretty attarctive to the Broncos, I would think….
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 4, 2009 11:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Styg.
I’ve saved yours and boydy’s posts for future reference.
by Blackknigh on Feb 6, 2009 2:47 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Blacknigh
It was me who did that post and heres the link:
http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/1/18/727182/nose-tackle-help-in-free-a
Thanks for the props man!
Great article Styg and rec’d!
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by boydy2669 on Feb 5, 2009 7:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well done, styg.
Thanks!
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by sirsam on Feb 5, 2009 10:31 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I know I asked before, But how do you import charts and stuff into fanposts??
by RiG on Feb 5, 2009 8:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I build my own using html code...
you can import stats of certain players using SB Nations wiget function when you are writing your post. It’s fairly simple to use. I prefer building my own because I can add some Bronco flare to them. ;-) Or Bronco bling if I may say. lol
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 6, 2009 12:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate tables
can’t stand them. 90% of the time I spend assembling a post is farting around with the table HTML….
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by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 6, 2009 1:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But they make the final product so purrrrty.
Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.
by Tim Lynch on Feb 6, 2009 3:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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