Jay Cutler; The Next Jeff George?

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 3:27 PM MST Comment 52 comments

Jake Plummer isn't exactly an unbiased opinion these days, but in light of the fan sentiment following the poor Pro Bowl outing by Jay Cutler, I thought it might be a good time to analize the facts. It is obvious he dislikes Mike Shanahan a great deal, but his comparison of Jay Cutler to Jeff George shocked me a little. I instantly discarded the comment as petty whining by a guy who really did get the short end of Shanahan's stick.

Then the Pro Bowl happened and we saw tremendous talent followed by poor decisions. Jay Cutler has the talent, but when he feels pressure he tends to make bad throws rather than take the sack. Now I think these are things he can learn to avoid, but after three seasons in the league he should be getting the idea by now.

However, rather than make comparison's to some random guy from the 90's and call it fact, I thought I would take a look at the stats of both Jay Cutler and Jeff George during their first few seasons in the league.

Jay Cutler

Jeff George

As a Bronco fan, it is almost absurd to compare these two quarterbacks so bear with me. Jeff George came out of college with one of the biggest arms ever seen and teams were clamoring for a chance to draft him #1 overall. The Indianapolis Colts moved up to take him first overall in the 1990 draft and made him the starter early on in the season. Jay Cutler on the other hand also had a rocket arm but was passed up in favor of two other quarterbacks in the draft. Cutler, however, is the only one still currently starting for his team.

For this comparison, I will only be using Jeff George's stats through his first four seasons in the league. It will be a larger pool than what I have on Cutler, but if the two are indeed trending the same way then we will be able to see where Cutler is headed at least.

Jay Cutler
Age	TM	GS	Record	Cmp.	Att.	%	Yds.	TD	TD%	INT	INT%	Yd/G	Sacks	Fmb
23	Den	5	2-3	81	137	59.1	1001	9	6.6	5	3.6	200.2	13	8
24	Den	16	7-9	297	467	63.6	3497	20	4.3	14	3.0	218.6	27	11
25	Den	16	8-8	384	616	62.3	4526	25	4.1	18	2.9	282.9	11	5
Career	Den	37	17-20	762	1220	62.5	9024	54	4.4	37	3.0	243.9	51	24
Jeff George
Age	TM	GS	Record	Cmp.	Att.	%	Yds.	TD	TD%	INT	INT%	Yd/G	Sacks	Fmb
23	Ind	12	5-7	181	334	54.2	2152	16	4.8	13	3.9	165.5	37	4
24	Ind	16	1-15	292	485	60.2	2910	10	2.1	12	2.5	181.9	56	8
25	Ind	10	6-4	167	306	54.6	1963	7	2.3	15	4.9	196.3	27	6
26	Ind	11	2-9	234	407	57.5	2526	8	2.0	6	1.5	194.3	26	4
Career	Ind	49	14-35	874	1532	57.0	9551	41	2.7	46	3.0	183.7	146	22

As you can see, there are some major trends these two athlete's experienced. Jay Cutler is mostly trending upwards. He has improved in nearly every category each season he has played in the league. The only downward trend that would concern me is his touchdown percentage. That is something that can be fixed with better chemistry and play calling in the red zone. The only knock I can find with Jay Cutler is that he has choked in big games; 0-3 in fact.

Jeff George on the other hand was fabulously inconsistent from year to year. He started out with a very promising rookie campaign, then followed it up with a 1-15 season. Then he would go 6-4 as a starter and finish his tenure with the Colts with a 2-9 record in year 4. The only consistent factor with him is that he held onto the ball far too long and was sacked an alarmingly high number of times.

Though Jay Cutler and Jeff George were athletically similar in terms of raw talent; the two players were polar opposites when comparing their Information Processing Speed as explained by spock. Jay Cutler has IT when it comes to succeeding in the NFL, while Jeff George did not.

I came into this post not sure what I was going to find, but I felt compelled to do the research. I had expected to find data that would at least make some of us wonder if Cutler was succeeding in the NFL, yet all I found was that Jake Plummer needs to get his facts straight before blasting a players talent. Of course, I also felt compelled to identify a young quarterback that could be compared to Jeff George and be accurately backed up by the hard data.

And if there was a player drafted in the past few years that I could compare to Jeff George then that would have to be JaMarcus Russell. He too was drafted number one overall on the basis of him having a rocket arm.

JaMarcus Russell
Age	TM	GS	Record	Cmp.	Att.	%	Yds.	TD	TD%	INT	INT%	Yd/G	Sacks	Fmb
23	Oak	16	5-11	234	434	53.9	2796	15	3.5	12	2.8	147.2	37	16

Crazy Al was also blinded by the soaring football - much like the Colts in 1990. So apparently there is, in fact, another young quarterback heading in the same direction as Jeff George and his name is NOT Jay Cutler. Let the real debate begin!

JaMarcus Russell

Jeff George

Poll

Who is more like Jeff George the football player?

Jay Cutler

9 votes

JaMarcus Russell

120 votes

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Oh, and one more thing I just noticed...

Jay Cutler is a first name and a last name.

Jeff George is two first names….

JaMarcus Russell is also two first names….

Coincidence? :) I don’t think so!

Is there such a thing as a Playstation 3 Anonymous? I can't seem to stop thinking about or playing COD 4 and COD 5. I hear this is quite normal for a teenager, but I haven't been a teenager since Bill Clinton was frolicking with interns.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 3:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting, but I agree the comparison are a bit over blown

One thing I do notice is when you are 1-15 and you have 56 sacks, probably not on a good team to begin with. The biggest difference between George and Cutler is the organization they went to, Denver the year they drafted Cutler they were in the AFC Championship, the Colts were a team coming off a horrible season. The problem with George is he never liked being coached, sometimes I wonder that about Jay, but we will see. I am not sure as far as where JaMarcus falls in that catagory, I assumed he is fine with being coached, the question is who is doing it and will it do any good. Obviously Jay has benefited from Shanahan and hopefully will grow with McDaniels. I think as long as Jay realizes he can always improve and learn to become the leader by his play and not calling guys out on the field or pouting, then I think he will be fine.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Feb 9, 2009 3:50 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Jeff George was a knucklehead and his career went the way it went because of the kind of person he is, but I also think it had to do with his inability to process information at the NFL level. I didn’t have the time to compare personalities or coaching really…I just did the stats part of the equation. Obviously there are thousands of things that go into whether or not a player busts.

As for the sacks, those also have to do with a players inability to process information. 56 sacks in 16 games = 3.5 per game…but that was his only full season with the Colts. Look at his other seasons and he still averaged 2.75 sacks per game. Not a very stat to carry around with you. Meanwhile Russell is averaging 2.3 sacks per game. Pretty high if you ask me…especially when Cutler is averaging just 1.3 per game. Sure it has to do with talent on the football team, but much of it has to do with read and reaction times of the quarterback himself.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 4:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Very true

I think that Jay has a much quicker release than George or Russell, which helps in the sack department, and I also like Cutler’s ability to avoid the rush better than George or Russel, but Cutler also has a much better O-line than either George did or Russell does, plus having guys that can get open helps also, I can’t remember who Indy’s receiveres were back then, but they obviously weren’t that good.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Feb 9, 2009 4:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, here is where we disagree.

Cutler has a better oline now, but I would say that our 2007 offensive line was atrocious. We had injuries all over the place and the continuity just plain sucked. Yet Jay Cutler was still only sacked 1.68 times per game that year. So even with a horrible offensive line, his sacks per game were far lower than the other two guys.

What had worried me about Cutler before this post was that he made too many mental errors, but even that is trending downward with each passing year. The main difference I was alluding to was that Jay Cutler is trending steadily upward, while George and Russell were/are horribly inconsistent from year to year or week to week.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And the Colts had

Reggie Langhorne back then…he wasn’t half bad. They also had Eric Dickerson past his heyday….George had weapons, but admittedly, not as many as Cutler now has. Russell has a stable of running backs….Cutler had a new running back each week. There are some fundamental differences here that only help to reinforce my belief that Cutler has something that these other two guys don’t have. And it isn’t just the talent that surrounds them.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree with one point.................

I can do without the pouting but when a guy isn’t performing on the field, there are times when he might need called out. As a coach myself I need leaders on the field. The best leader I ever coached had one very important talent that is essential on any sucessful team, he knew when a teammate needed called out and when they needed encouraged. To me, that is what Jay needs to learn, when he needs to call a guy out and when something else is necessary. It is impressive to me that Jay isn’t afraid to call someone out but he probably needs to learn some discernment as far as when and where to do it.

The player who thinks he can and the player who knows he can are two different players, which one are you???

by Broncofan on Feb 9, 2009 8:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

I am not opposed to him calling guys out, but I really don’t need him calling out a rookie reciever the last game of the year who has been fantastic for you all season, and calling out the freaking kicker. I rather see him get in the grill of Brandon Marshall when he does something boneheaded or Tony Schefler, but I think he won’t do that because those are guys he came in with and he sees them as buddies more than teamates.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Feb 10, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I also agree with Cutler calling out players due to poor performance

Just keep it out of the press.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 11, 2009 6:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Calling players out

I had a neat video clip (but I’ve lost it) of Peyton Manning. Colts had to punt, and Manning went to the bench, fuming. After a bit, he jumped up, went down to where the O line guys were sitting, and started screaming at them. You could see a blob of spit fly out of his mouth. He was PO’d!. finally, one of the O linemen went up to him and said, “Go sit down.” And kind of shoved him away.

Truly the light is sweet, and a pleasant thing it is for my eyes to behold the sun.

Ecclesiastes

by bradley on Feb 12, 2009 3:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Plummer is wrong

I think he is just touting his wins with the Broncos. Jake always came off as if he didn’t care. I don’t sense that with Cutler. Sure, he is laid back a lot, but he shows some fire from time to time as well.

I don’t remember George to well but from what I have read, he seems to me to have Cutlers natural abilities with Plummer’s mindset (correct me if I’m wrong). If Plummer had more of the IT factor and desire to win, somebody should ask him about those playoff blow outs to the Colts or even the loss to Pittsburg.

by InYoFace on Feb 9, 2009 5:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

George's personality is actually more like Favre's than like Plummer's if you ask me.

Favre is what Jeff George would have been if he had gotten to play for a great team. Jeff George is also the first quarterback to get publicity for flipping the bird at his own teams fans. lol….guess who was the second to get publicity for that. :)

Plummer was destroyed by the Cardinals. I recall him leading that joke of an organization to the playoffs in the late 90’s…was even considered a 4th quarter magician for a while there. Honestly, I think the death of Pat Tilman change his perspective on life a lot and his treatment in Denver changed him even more.

If anything, I blame Mike Shanahan for ruining Jake Plummer’s career and I think Jake has every right to be resentful of that…but I also think he was a tool for comparing Cutler to Jeff George. The NFL stands for Not For Long and if he really did love playing football he would have played for Tampa Bay.

Plummer was a great talent that struggled on a talentless team and had as much success as he could have had with them. He came to Denver and led the team to the AFC Championship game, but he and Shanahan didn’t like each other and Plummer still hasn’t let go of that. Jake Plummer was not a bad starting quarterback and he wasn’t a great starting quarterback…he was just a solid starting NFL quarterback. That’s all. Nothing more, nothing less.

He just needs to stay retired. I hope to move to Northern Idaho sometime in the near future…maybe I’ll pick Sandpoint just for the off chance of running into him on the street. Headlines will read, “Former Broncos QB charged with assault and battery after throwing a fan into a nearby ice filled pond”. :) In all seriousness…it’s too freakin’ cold in Sandpoint…Post Falls sounds nice though.

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 5:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I actually loved watching Plummer play

and thought he was a great starter. Not sure I could pin the AFC championship loss on him alone, if I’m honest about it. I think we were outgamed. I do suspect that if we’d made the Superbowl that year, we would have given Seattle all they could handle. So I’m not really down on Plummer for the way he played, either. I’m just down on him for taking pot shots from the sideline. Not very classy, but you’re right — he may be entitled to his resentment. I do recall Shanahan stripping the playbook bare during Jake’s last season. I thought that was weird, actually, that they went so conservative after having a good year the previous season. Our problems were so clearly defensive for those few years…

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 9, 2009 5:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Guru got it right...everything changed when Shanny coached Peyton Manning in the Pro Bowl that year they went

to the AFC Championship game. I never blamed Plummer for a second with that loss….that was a team loss all around. Name one facet in that game where we beat the Steelers.

I too liked Plummer…but I do like Cutler a whole lot better. I just hope the wins start coming soon…. ;-)

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 5:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I liked Plummer as well. I just think it’s odd that he criticized Cutler for something he is sometimes criticized for. Like you said earlier, “….if he really did love playing football he would have played for Tampa Bay.”

Good comparison with Farve by the way. I didn’t think about him.

by InYoFace on Feb 9, 2009 5:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Comparison to Farve

At least Jake knows how to leave the game. He didn’t keep organizations hanging like Farve.

Victor Frankl:

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Feb 11, 2009 6:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that was a terrific point by Guru

Not hard to see Shanny missing Elway really, really acutely after coaching Manning that game. Jay is much closer to what we need, Jake was more of a poor man’s Elway.

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 9, 2009 6:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Me too -

But give the poor guy a defense and a healthy running game before we expect him to win very much. The team and the QB are the only ones with W/L stats, but the other issues have been a huge problem, as you know.

In Goodman We Trust

by Emmett Smith on Feb 9, 2009 7:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+1

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

by Steve O' on Feb 9, 2009 7:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+100

It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.

by metalman5050 on Feb 9, 2009 8:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

However

When the game was still a game and it was 3-0 Plummer had a fumble that led to the Steelers first TD. Close as Denver got was 10-3. Another Plummer fumble in the 1st half led to a 24-3 deficit. Sure it may have been a team loss but 2 Plummer fumbles led to 14 steeler points. If that doesnt happen who knows what happens. I dont totally disagree it was a team loss but when Plummer has 4 turnovers I tend to think the running game is taken out of the equation and then the team is on Plummers back and that was no win situation. That 2005 team was run first and second then use the play action to set up the pass. Plummer is and was an ingrate.\
Also I wasnt gonna comment on the George to Cutler comparsion but it seem to be a stretch to me. JG is a pos everywhere he has been, a bad teammate bad on coaches and a guy who wrote checks his talent/attitude could not cash. Just based upon the stats you provide JC is a better passer, he is quite young and tends to throw balls he should not have last season, but granted when you are almost told to score on every possesion the pressure must be great

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Feb 10, 2009 1:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree it was a team lose

Plummer didn’t have agreat game, although he did make some very nice plays late, but the whole team stunk it up.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Feb 10, 2009 10:56 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Your right, Jake needs to stay retired.

I know he has ill feelings toward Shanahan, yet like you I also think he needs to let this go. If he is happy where he is in his life they why does he need to make any comments toward the Broncos or Culter. Jake got replaced by a young QB, so I understand how he would be a bit bitter.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Feb 9, 2009 6:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Great post Z!!! And as I said in some other thread somewhere...

Mr. Plummer may have won more games, but he’s also a journeyman who lost a championship, so really he’s more of a George than Jay is. There is a reason he’s playing handball and not QBing the Broncos anymore.

Thanks again, Zappa. I too was nervous about the comparison without knowing the data, but thanks to your hard work, I have no more lingering doubts. I believe Mc Jedi is going to teach him the ways of the force — patience is power.

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 9, 2009 5:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks!

by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2009 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

If Bates stuck around...

I think Plummer may have been right. Let’s be brutally honest here; Jay’s decision making was not improving the way it needs to improve for him to truly be an elite QB. McD may just be the best thing to ever happen to Jay!

by SlowWhiteGuy on Feb 9, 2009 6:19 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Two strong slaps in the face, by the new coach, and Jay will be just fine!

NO MORE INTERCEPTIONS!
Look off the defenders!
If you reverse those then the interceptions will go down expotentially.

It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.

by metalman5050 on Feb 9, 2009 6:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

So true,

He also needs to throw the ball away when nothing is there instead of forcing the throw, despite the strong arm he has.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Feb 9, 2009 6:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That was a big deal this year, and beleive it or not, I think it is some thing that MCD, will correct!

It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.

by metalman5050 on Feb 9, 2009 6:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think so too.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Feb 9, 2009 6:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

McD will probably say....

So, Jay, let’s start by that last series you played in the Pro Bowl. LOL

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 9, 2009 6:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Too funny

It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.

by metalman5050 on Feb 9, 2009 7:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That's definitely #4

In Goodman We Trust

by Emmett Smith on Feb 9, 2009 7:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry that I missed that one, but U R right!

It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.

by metalman5050 on Feb 9, 2009 7:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I coudn't agree more weazel.

I got fried for saying that yesterday. I’m not saying this just because of what happened in the pro bowl. The pro bowl just highlighted that it’s something he needs to work on.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Feb 10, 2009 6:39 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Just for kicks

I think you should chart the same stats for Elway, Marino, Big Ben, and the Mannings.

by cuprite on Feb 10, 2009 1:01 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

I've been thinking about doing an Elway-Marino post for a while....

ever since I stumbled upon a Dolphin blog about how Elway has a bunch of fake 4th quarter comebacks and Marino was actually the all-time comeback king. Bunch of garbage, but I’ve always wanted to write a rebuttal to that garbage of a post. ;-)

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I've heard that one before

Sorry, but Elway was DA Man at comebacks hands-down. Marino did have some good ones, but that is just it…some good “ones”. Elway had multiple memorable ones year in and year out because he was the greatest clutch QB the NFL has ever seen.

It would be neat to see the numbers though.

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Feb 10, 2009 4:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Elway did it when IT MATTERED.

How many comebacks did Marino have in the playoffs? lol

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 4:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

or rings

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Feb 10, 2009 6:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+2 ;-)

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 6:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Zappa...living in FL I deal with this argument a lot.

Rick Reilly from SI did an article many years back called “John Elway: An Appreciation”…in that article he gives many good Marino – Elway stats that you could use if you do a post. If your interested, drop me a line and I will dig through my closet and find the article…

by Steve O' on Feb 10, 2009 6:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Heck yeah! Thanks. :)

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 10:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+3

Nice

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Feb 11, 2009 9:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Nice post Zappa.

Our defense couldn’t stop the Steelers on 3rd down in the 2005 AFC championship game. Ken Whisenhunt had our defense figured out. Trevor Pryce commented about that. It put Jake into a position of being behind and taking risks to move the offense. Zappa is right – he was a solid QB – nothing more, nothing less. Guru is right that seeing Manning changed Shanahan’s mind about his QB. I agree that he should let bygones be bygones and enjoy his retirement.
I am happy to see a new mentor for Cutler. He will improve his skills with the McCoy/McD combination.

by Blackknigh on Feb 10, 2009 2:22 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Thank you! And we are in complete agreement. :)

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 3:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Reality Bites -- The Similarities Are Undeniable.

Both have first names starting with “J” and both where shoes when playing football.

Nice work in this post, although I must say that dropping this amount of effort and research on Jake Plummer isn’t really a fair fight.

One thing I think has gone missing from the conversation is the fact that Shanny coached Jay to play like a gunslinger. We’ve all seen the quotes. Shanny thinks completion percentage is overrated, and kept telling Cutler to keep taking chances. I think that is terrible advice for a quarterback in the contemporary NFL. It’s also another marker of the way in which the league passed the man by. What I look forward to from McD is putting some sophistication in Jay C’s game and helping him to play smarter. Telling the guy NOT to play like a cowboy is a start.

by Chibronx on Feb 10, 2009 7:58 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

LMAO!!

dropping this amount of effort and research on Jake Plummer isn’t really a fair fight.

Nicely said, Chibronx. +1000

Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne

by broncosmontana on Feb 10, 2009 10:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Classic! Thank you. lol

At least someone caught the levity I was trying to insert into this post. Like, does it really matter what comes out of Plummer’s mouth? Ahhhh…NO! If Mike Shanahan came out and said something like this then I’d be somewhat concerned. lol

by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2009 3:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

umm... no.

jeff george possessed the best arm i have ever seen in pro football. but no, he didn’t have “it” upstairs. cutler does. a rocket arm is certainly not a requirement for a great qb, but if you can make smart decisions like joe montana, and combine that with the rocket arm, then you have, well… peyton manning, i guess. which is what cutler would be aspiring to be more like in some ways, i would think. and i believe it is going to work out just great. that being said, the picks and the dropped balls by marshall(and others) is starting to get me concerned. hopefully the new coaching staff(and maturity) can limit those problems. if so, i don’t see this offense being stopped very often

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Feb 10, 2009 3:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I can see

Cutler can sometimes look like an all pro QB at times but sometimes he can look like big stupid idiot out there on the field, I mean he can’t even beat Rivers in the big game lets not forget he played football at Vandy and they really sucked so i can see where the comparison to jeff might come from.

by thirdandlong303 on Feb 17, 2009 11:14 AM MST reply actions 0 recs