more rumors ….

Broncos Agreed on Trade for Cassel – But were too Late

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Craig McMortard, is reporting the deal was AGREED ON by the Broncos and that it was shot down because the trade agreement was already in place between NE and KC.

We would have ended up with Cassel and TB’s 1st and 3rd round picks. TB with Cutler, and NE with our 1st rounder.

If this is true and we AGREED to this… Mc****Face can go to hell and can expect the entire city to boo him till Bowlen fires his ass.

You don’t speak about honesty, trying to win, and building a strong relationship with your QB and then pull this ****. What an immature, leaderless little ****.

I don’t much care for Mort either, but take it how you will.

Info Obtained from -

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=136078

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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3943257

IF THIS IS TRUE, I"M DONE WITH MCD. I WILL BOYCOTT THE FRANCHISE I LOVE UNTIL HE IS GONE. IF X-MAN SHOT THIS DOWN, I’M STILL WITH HIM. IF MCD AGREED TO THIS RIDICULOUS DEAL, I’M DONE WITH HIM.

Now, on a calmer note, this is all speculation. I will let the facts come out and then make a value judgement. I encourage the rest of broncos country to do the same.

REGARDLESS, LET’S HAVE CUTLER’S BACK. THE KID BLEEDS FOR THIS GAME AND THAT’S WHY HE FEELS THE WAY HE DOES.

No one comes out of this looking good. Cutler looks like a thin-skinned kid who can’t keep his mouth shut and runs off to vent to the press, who promptly spin, spin, spin away. McD looks like the world’s biggest nepotistic amateur by actively trying to get his backup to supplant an established and possibly franchise QB. The entire organisation looks like fools for letting it leak, and smack in the middle of free agency while we’re trying to lure top talent to our door. Now Cutler’s feelings are hurt, we’re not going to get Cassel anyway since he went to the Chiefs, and management is faced with a big steaming pile of crap to shovel glitter over. Agh… can it all just go away now, please?

/goes to watch spring training baseball

Broncos aproached about trade.

As Profesionals the top brass consider it.

They reject it.

Someone who is p’o’d that the deal is not available leaks it to the press to destabalise Cutler (as they think he can be “wound up”) and force a trade anyway.

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Apart from the fact it was leaked i would be surprised if any team didn’t consider a trade if it is right for the team (and the includes brady, manning et al.)

No employer cares about any member of staff if they think they can get something better for the long term good of the organisation.

Just because we love the broncos shouldn’t make us for a second think otherwise.

There are new sources that I trust but ESPN & Mortenson aren’t near the top of that list, especially when it comes to a story like this.

I see that LucasBrazil has a grand total of eleven posts and the first was earlier this month and other the ten have come within the last few days. It’s always interesting to see a newer member suddenly become active and jump on a rumor that’s gotten out of control and taken on a life of itself beyond any supporting evidence.

What should be noticed about the Mortensen story is how heavily it relies on events that Mortensen wasn’t in a position to know — thus the “scoop” element. Scoops are like dirty little secrets that someone doesn’t want you know, thus the source of the scoop is confiding something that others will deny. In this case (purportedly), it’s the Broncos staff who wouldn’t want others to know that they’d been engaged in talks regarding Cutler, and indeed they wouldn’t if it were true, but the main evidence (so to speak) supporting the ‘story’ is the framing as a scoop, which in turn relies heavily on psychological factors.

The Catch-22 of the Liar’s frame

McDaniels and Xanders can deny the story all they want but that’s exactly what they be expected to do, so the scoop frame is reinforced even though it’s false. IF they were attempting to shop Cutler then they wouldn’t want anyone else to know so it’s expected that they would deny the fact — ergo; denial is construed as proof that they were attempting to shop Cutler. And, of course, the fact that they would deny the false story BECAUSE it’s false is somewhat irrelevant. Unfortunately, it’s been shown in social scientific research that people do tend to believe the worst so one story is more readily believed than the other, and moreover, since both versions of the story rely on the same evidence as proof, it’s the choice of the listener that determines which story is believed. In the bizarre logic of the scoop frame, McDaniels and Xanders telling the truth is ‘proof’ that they must be lying — a Catch-22!

Motives for Tampering

What should be noted about this story is that if there were trade talks — and the Broncos have already stated the unsurprising fact that they were approached by other teams — then the only likely source of the ‘leak’ would be those other teams that have an interest in undermining the Broncos. This is not to say that the substance of the scoop story is true, but rather, that it was in the interest of other teams to leak a story involving conversations with the Broncos about Cutler. Therefore, representatives (including fans, writers, etc.) of other teams had something to gain by spreading a story about Cutler, which isn’t true of the Broncos regardless of whether the scoop was true or false.

The Suspension of Incredulity — the story spreads

I can’t go into a full treatment of disinformation techniques in a short post but it should be pointed out that much of what has been reported on this story has been denied by the individuals involved, and the media continues to report as fact what’s been denied despite this. Jay Cutler has stated that he wasn’t seeking a trade but was seeking to negotiate with other teams IF the Broncos were attempting to shop him. It may seem like a subtle difference but ‘IF" is a very important contingency. Cutler, like most of us, was exposed to the trade scoop and wanted to protect his interests — quite understandably. What most notable about the ’trade scoop’ is that it strains credulity by offering a story where the Broncos would trade a Pro Bowl QB, and casts the new Broncos staff as incompetent despite all evidence to the contrary. We can argue about whether a trade that brought high picks and a competent QB to Denver for Cutler would be worth considering, but the latest version of the scoop has us inside the inner war room of the Broncos and heads of the HC and GM, places that we’re unlikely to gain access or, in the second case, a place where we can never go.

The story gains impetus as time passes, and even the denials of the story serve as backdrops that support the story’s frame. We remember as true what’s yet to be proven because the controversy itself makes it vivid, in much the same sense as we’d easily recall two people having an argument although the cause of the argument is sketchy and the disputed underlying facts remote or unobtainable.