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Running for a Ring

In 1999 something happened that hasn't happened again since. A team won the Super Bowl without running the ball better than their opponent. The St. Louis Rams passed the ball 46 times with 24 completions. Kurt Warner threw for 414 yards and was named the Super Bowl MVP. The Tennesse Titans were out matched against the Rams offense that was commonly known as "The Greatest Show on Turf". That Super Bowl came down to the final play where the Titans were stopped a yard or so short of victory. The Titans kept the game close and stayed with the MVP and his "Show" by sticking to the basics, running the football. Including a few scrambles by McNair, the Titans behind Eddie George ran the ball 36 times for 156 yards. Tennessee also controlled the time of possession 36:26 to 23:34 but came up a yard short against a high powered offense. The 1999 Titans ran the ball better than the Rams and still lost the Super Bowl but that is not the recent trend. In all of Super Bowl history, the team that finished the game with the most rushing attempts have won over 70% if the time.

Looking at the Super Bowls since 2000, let's see the trend of passing attempts and running stats.

Super Bowl Winner is in italics

Baltimore Ravens Vs. New York Giants: The Ravens passed the ball 25 times while the Giants threw it 39. Baltimore ran the ball 33 times for 110 yards while the Giants ran it 16 times for 65 yards. Time of Possession (T.O.P) - Ravens 34:06 - Giants 25:54

New England Patriots Vs. St. Louis Rams: The Patriots beat the high powered Rams and also won the running battle. Tom Brady threw it 27 times and former MVP Warner threw it 47. The Pats ran the ball 25 times for 133 yards and the Rams had 22 attempts for 92 yards. T.O.P - Patriots 26:30 - Rams 33:30*

*Rams won the T.O.P battle but lost the turnover battle giving up 3 while Brady and the Pats didn't turn it over at all.

Tampa Bay Bucs Vs. Oakland Raiders: Tampa Bay's Brad Johnson attempted 34 passes and the Raiders Rich Gannon attempted 44. The Bucs crushed the Raiders in the running battle with 41 attempts for 150 yards while the Raiders had a measly 11 tries for 19 yards. T.O.P - Bucs 37:14 - Raiders 22:46

New England Patriots Vs. Carolina Panthers:  The Pats are the first team on this list to pass more than their opponent.  Brady opened it up more in his second Super Bowl throwing it 47 times. Jake Delhomme had 32 pass attempts. The Pats ran the ball 35 times for 127 yards and the Panthers ran it 16 for 92. T.O.P - NE 38:58 - Panthers 21:02

New England Patriots Vs. Philadelphia Eagles:  Back to the trend for New England this time. Brady threw the ball 33 times while McNabb hoisted it up 51 times. New England ran the ball 28 times for 112 yards and Philly ran it 17 for 45. In every Patriots SB victory they ran the ball over 110 yards. They may be known as a passing team but they ran it well when they had to. T.O.P - 31:37 - 28:23

Pittsburgh Steelers Vs. Seattle Seahawks:  Big Ben Roethlisberger's first Super Bowl ended in a ring and a degree in ball control from Cowher University. Ben threw the ball 21 times completing only 9 passes. Matt Hasselbeck on the other hand put it up 49 times. The Steelers ran it down the Seahawks throats, rushing for 181 yards on 33 carries. Seattle put up a modest 25 for 137. T.O.P - Seattle 33:02 - Pittsburgh 26:58

Indianapolis Colts Vs. Chicago Bears:  Like Brady a few years back, an elite QB was able to "out throw" the opponent and win. Peyton Manning tossed it around 38 times while Rex Grossman threw it 28. The running battle once again goes to the victor. The Colts were able to rush the ball 42 times for 191 yards against the number 5 ranked defense. The Bears, with Thomas Jones were able to run for 111 yards on 19 carries. T.O.P - Colts 38:04 - Bears 21:56

New York Giants Vs. New England Patriots: The Josh McDaniels led offense put up historic numbers in 2007.  Tom Brady and Randy Moss led the charge and were  vital parts for the team that saw an undefeated regular season. The Super Bowl trend continues however as Brady put the ball 48 times while Peyton's little brother Eli tossed it 34 times and was named the SB MVP.  Everyone states that the Giants pass rush and their defense is what won this game. I somewhat disagree with that thinking. Yes, the defense had a massive role in pressuring Brady but the Pats couldn't run the ball. They carried it 16 times for 45 yards while New York rushed it 25 for 91 yards. Why did New England struggle, was it the Giants ability to stop the run?  Perhaps, they did rank 8th in the league in run defense that season but one thing to notice is that the record setting Pats were ranked #1 in the NFL in Passing but 13th in the league in Rushing. Maybe they forgot that every SB winner this decade won by out rushing the opponent and not out passing them. T.O.P - Giants 30:27 - Pats 29:33

Pittsburgh Steelers Vs. Arizona Cardinals:  This was a very close Super Bowl that went down the wire. Roethlisberger threw the ball 30 times and Warner threw it 43. The Steelers won the rushing battle and won the ring. They had 26 carries for 58 yards while Arizona abandoned the running game rushing only 11 times for 33 yards. T.O.P - Steelers 33:01 - Cards 26:59

It's understandable to think that the losing teams probably threw the ball more because they were losing and it may be misleading to say that the reason they lost was due to them passing more. The same thinking can apply to the time of possession battle as teams that were behind had to pass more to catch up.  I can't say the same thing about running the ball. It is clear that every Super Bowl Champion in the last ten years won the rushing battle, aside from the aforementioned  '99 Rams. Two QB's, the two best in this generation in Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, were the only two to throw the ball more than their opponent and still win the game. Everyone else ran the ball, protected it from costly turnovers and controlled the eb and flow. Since 2000, 70% of the teams that won the rushing battle also won the time of possession battle and 90% of the time over the last decade the team that won the rushing battle also won the Super Bowl.

In my two other post's about the running game, Rushing To Win and Draft a 1st Round Running Back with a terrible defense , You Betcha!, I try to show that running the ball is very important to winning a football game. Good teams that control the ball, control the clock and control the game. In the latter of those two posts I show that 10 of the last 18 Super Bowl winners (save the most recent contest) had a 1st Round running back. Not to imply that the RB caused them to win but rather that all the Championship teams valued the RB position enough to draft a RB in the first round. MHR Staff member nycbroncosfan's post Running Backs, The NFL Draft and Value shows that 1st Round running backs produce better than running backs taken later and he proves "the notion that "excellent running backs are easy to find" isn't all that accurate, even for the Broncos".

When it comes to building an elite running back stable I often wonder what approach is best, the "Comittee" or the "Primary Runner". That comes down to what you value. The value argument against picking expensive running backs is one I understand but disagree with.  The Running Back by Committee approach is fine as long as it is effective. That is the bottom line. Can you sustain a rushing attack when facing a charged up, playoff caliber defense in the biggest stage in sports? I favor the Primary Back or Backs as is the case in Miami and Carolina. When it comes right down to that one final game when your facing a playoff tested defense, an ellusive, extremely talented RB paired with the right supporting cast is extremely hard to stop and gives you a distinct advantage.

To be certain, passing the ball well is a weapon and when done perfectly is hard to stop but it also leaves the team open for mistakes and most likely reduces the chances to win the time of possession battle. Interceptions, sacks, QB hurries and fumbles from pressure all come into play when you pass much more often than you run.  A team that can run the ball well and sustain the offense while avoiding mistakes is a method proven to win Championships.

What does this have to with Denver and their horrid defense? According to FootballOutsiders.com, Denver fans may have some hope.

"How do historically bad defenses rebound?

Denver may have hired a young offensive mastermind (Josh McDaniels) as its new head coach, but the problem in 2008 was clearly defense. Based on Football Outsiders' advanced DVOA ratings, Denver had the second-worst defense of any team since 1995. (The worst defense also played this year, in Detroit.)

The good news for Denver is that it would be almost impossible for the defense to be that bad for a second year. The natural tendency of all teams is for performance to trend towards the NFL average. For example, take the 25 worst defenses in DVOA prior to 2008. These 25 defenses improved the next year by an average of 11 percentage points worth of DVOA, or seven places in the NFL rankings."

The question then becomes how do we improve? Back to FootballOutsiders...

"Nearly every bad defense concentrated its top draft picks on defensive players, but a few of the really strong turnarounds came from teams that had highly-drafted linebackers entering their second seasons. For example, the Ravens went from 29th in DVOA in Ray Lewis' rookie year to 13th in his second season. The 49ers went from 28th in Julian Peterson's rookie year to 14th in his second season. The Broncos can't complain about last year's draft, not when Ryan Clady was such a force at left tackle, but they didn't select a linebacker until the sixth round."

What I suggest is that if Denver can not land an impact Linebacker then they should select the protypical Zone Blocking RB, Knowshon Moreno. The average year of experience for the Running Backs on the Super Bowl winners from 1980 - 2008 is 4.83 years, showing that a RB needs a few years to hit his stride. Obtaining a RB now would give the young offense time to jell and form a well oiled unit that would be hard to stop.

Heading into next year the Broncos have a bit of turmoil surrounding the team, they have a new coach off to a rocky start before ever playing a game. They have a young QB who appears to be a bit distraught and a fan base that is split between their team and their QB, wanting both to be right. Many years ago the Broncos team was close to relocating the franchise and the team was in trouble then along came Floyd Little. His abilities raised the franchise to a new level and he saved the Denver Broncos. Perhaps we can grab a gamebreaking RB and help save the franchise again.

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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Good points and a lot of info steve !

   But guessing from the non replies to all your work and typing you did .
    people skipped this post for there cutler fix….. I liked it though .

by broncosfaninphilly on Mar 13, 2009 11:52 PM MDT reply actions  

thanks broncosfaninphilly

That was the entire reason I did the post, to change the channel already. The Broncos are going have a game in Sept, with or withour Cutler, we need to focus on what we are trying to do. Win a ring, not a QB over.

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

"he (Turner) can get perfomance out of a yugo, but that is no reason not to buy a nicer car"....Broncobear

by Steve O' on Mar 14, 2009 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

You can't go wrong

switching to Channel 24!

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 14, 2009 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

i'm cutler-ed out, myself

and yes, very refreshing read. an actual football post, and a good one. our run-blocking will be much improved this season, and showed some signs late last year, but we had nobody capable left, really. the difference between the holes at the beginning and end of the season were very noticable. i, too, am a big fan of the running game and ball control, especially when you play a premier defense(like a good chunk of next season). also, i believe the o-line is actually more important than the rb himself(remember timmy smith?). of course, that goes hand-in-hand, though. i like the trend toward a power-running game, as opposed to the hit-or-miss(home-run) style of the scat-backs we’ve been employing since mike anderson. short-yardage conversions and consistency are huge. i think we have a good mix this season, and i expect us to draft a good prospect at the position. the questions everyone seems to be dodging are these: do these new backs fit our one-cut zb style(i’m not sure they do) , and how are they in pass-protection? or are we moving toward a more traditional north-south attack in the running game? important considerations, no? haven’t gotten a reply, yet. does it matter?

taste my blintzkrieg!
2009-year of the defense.

by davecheffy on Mar 14, 2009 12:25 AM MDT reply actions  

I might have my RB ratings up before the weekend is over

and you are absolutely right, that oline was creating some significant holes towards the end of last year. I think some of that can be attributed to the point that they were blocking against defenses that were hedging 90% towards the passing game (no one was really scared of Boyd, Pope or Tatum, and SD completely ignored tatum), but I don’t doubt for a second that the line got much better at working together as the season wore on, adn that the first year starters got even better adjusted to the running game.

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 14, 2009 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Dave

I am very glad you found it refreshing.

Here is my reply to your inquiry at the end….

Do the new backs fit our scheme? – Well, the difficult part of this question is what is our scheme? I don’t think anyone knows but McD and Xanders, we kept B.Turner, and R. Dennison which leaves us confused, are we changing or staying? Arrington, Buckhalter and Jordan are players that McD thought could be better than Young, Hall and Torian and around the same price. My guess is they will have an open competition and obviously some will get cut.

Pass protection- you got me, I have no clue…

More north south style, well most teams all want north and south, it its the fastest way to the end zone. With that said, the spread offense requires a guy with good hands and is nifty catching the ball out of the backfield. I think Buckhalter is the best of the bunch when healthy…

Finally, does it matter – yeah I think it matters, the thing that I think matters more is health and the ability to hold onto the ball. Look at Andre Hall, he is tough, quick with decent to better speed. Why didn’t he play more..injuries and fumbles, that’s what I think.

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

"he (Turner) can get perfomance out of a yugo, but that is no reason not to buy a nicer car"....Broncobear

by Steve O' on Mar 14, 2009 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah ! I remember Timmy Smith ......

    You are right about strong offensive line play ! I remember the redskins were blowing the broncos
  defensive line off the ball in the 2nd half of that SB . ! was sick .

by broncosfaninphilly on Mar 14, 2009 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice post Steve (and timely)...

thanks for the break from McJaygate. You raise some very interesting points. Since you’ve visited Football Outsiders perhaps you’ve read the essay, “The Establishment Clause” where they point out some interesting correlations between running and winning.

The upshot of their research is that it isn’t clear whether running leads to winning or whether winning leads to running. They actually found an inverse correlation between running early and winning whereas there is a positive correlation between running late and winning. This would appear to imply that winning teams run late to run out the clock leading to the leading team running more. Conversely the trailing team has to pass more to preserve the clock and give them the opportunity to win.

All that aside, I expect to see a returning to running. NE’s offensive philosophy has always been governed by Ron Erhardt"s mantra, “throw to score; run to win.”

by SlowWhiteGuy on Mar 14, 2009 11:19 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks SlowWhiteGuy

Thanks for the great comments and the link…good stuff.

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

"he (Turner) can get perfomance out of a yugo, but that is no reason not to buy a nicer car"....Broncobear

by Steve O' on Mar 14, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

great stuff here.

that is some nice work there Steve. I can sure appreciate the effort you put into this…I spend 6 minutes on a post and feel it’s worth something, but I couldn’t do something like this if I tried. Nice work.

Peyton Hillis in '09.

Name him---Mr. Balls....or Thunderpussy.

by Joe Medina on Mar 14, 2009 1:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks Calijoefornia...

I appreciate the kind words.

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

"he (Turner) can get perfomance out of a yugo, but that is no reason not to buy a nicer car"....Broncobear

by Steve O' on Mar 14, 2009 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

NE Running

They were 6th in the league in the category of 10+ yard carries with 55. They are only 10th in the league in yards per carry (4.7) but 4th in rushing TDs with 21. Randy Moss led the team with 11 receiving, but after him is was Sammie Morris with 7 (all rushing) and then it’s K. Faulk, (6 TD – 3 +3), B. Green-Ellis with 5 rushing, and LaMont Jordan with 4 rushing. Wes Welker is way back with 3, which should give you an idea.

The principle of pass to score, run to win may refer to what SWG notes: running out the clock with the lead – however you got it ;-)

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Mar 14, 2009 3:18 PM MDT reply actions  

Excellent Stuff

I do believe this should be given some front page consideration! The breakdown was sweet, It is funny how the only legitimate passer Peyton Manning still relied on his running game to accomplish the task. I am guessing that you are one of those guys who feel we need a real “Franchise” type back. I do not disagree but I am hard pressed to find someone I would trade up for. You have to feel especially good about a player to trade the farm for him. As Mike did with Jay it can pay off. However, I have yet to see a back come out the last 3 years that I woudl trade the farm for except maybe Frank Gore or Adrian Peterson but I liked them in college! Steve, if you find me one I am sold!

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by Jon Tollerud on Mar 14, 2009 7:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Stats can be used to make both sides of an argument

You started to get on the right track when you said the stats are skewed because losing teams playing from behind pass more. You got closer when you mentioned the time of possesion battle goes away from the teaming playing from behind because they pass more, but you failed to look at the more important point that the winning team is afforded the luxury of running ball because they have the lead.

Do rushing teams win? Or do winning teams rush because they can run out the clock?

I’m glad you mentioned Cowher because if you examine his games where he got up by 10 points he’d almost always win. That gave him the luxury of putting the passing game on the shelf, and dictating the game by running down your throat.

Also, I’m pretty sure game winning drives aren’t reliant on pounding the ball via the run. Big Ben’s game winner this year had one run…by him. The rest were passes. Imagine trying to score in 2 minutes running the ball 7 times and passing once.

A better examination of stats that would actually lead to accurate conclusions might be to examine WHEN teams are passing vs when they are running. Are your stats including all the knees taken by teams that ran out the clock? They all count as rushes in the stat book if I’m not mistaken. My feeling is that teams that have a balanced attack or favor the pass early while their defense is fresh are more likely to get a lead, enabling them to run more later. The same could be said for teams with dominating defenses that score points. Those teams get a lead and then can run at will, artificially inflating rushing attempt numbers of winning SB teams. I will admit, though, that when your defense is tired being able to run at will to give them a rest is very valuable. I think my Colts learned this the hard way when their potent offense used to score too quickly, and their D was still huffing when they had to go back on the field. But back to my previous point, when you need a game winning drive, being able to pass at will might be more valuable.

I’d like to see the results of your investigation if you examined the run/pass ratio up until the point when winning SB teams had a 10-15 point lead, and then did the ratio change to preserve that lead.

by nithusezni on Mar 20, 2009 6:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for the comment nithusezni

As a diehard fanatic on the running game, I just may do the latter investigation that you mention on the run/pass ratio for the SB teams.

The one constant message that I try to get across is that in a “passing” league you still need to be able to run the ball. In my opinion, and the opinion of some Broncos like Casey Weigman, if Denver had sustained a late season rushing attack they would have won the AFC West. There were far to many times this season where Denver lead 21-3 or 13-3 and didn’t reduce the number of possessions of the opponent.

I remember the Colts game years ago, 2003 and Peyton came to Denver. The Broncos ran the ball from the get go and Peyton hardly saw the field…

Q. Griffin had 28 carries for 136, the Broncos team had 54 carries for 227 yards… Here is a quote from ESPN’s article on the game….

Denver ran nearly twice as many plays as the Colts, 71-37, produced 227 yards on the ground and held the ball for 44:58 — even without Portis, the NFL’s second-leading rusher with 1,591 yards. Portis was inactive after spraining his right knee and ankle last week against Cleveland

That is the kind of running dedication that I would like to see from our current Broncos. The stud goes down but the still pound the ball. Plummer was successful in Denver do to Shanahan’s conservative approach with him, limiting his throws. In ’05 he was awesome and controlling the ball and Denver went far in the Post Season…just food for thought.

Thanks again for your imput…great comments

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

"he (Turner) can get perfomance out of a yugo, but that is no reason not to buy a nicer car"....Broncobear

by Steve O' on Mar 20, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice points, nithusezn
My feeling is that teams that have a balanced attack or favor the pass early while their defense is fresh are more likely to get a lead, enabling them to run more later.

Your comment is a pretty exact replica of what Bill Walsh said regarding his version of the West Coast Offense. That’s precisely what the system was designed to do – pass to gain the lead, run to keep it

What I suggest is that if Denver can not land an impact Linebacker then they should select the protypical Zone Blocking RB, Knowshon Moreno. The average year of experience for the Running Backs on the Super Bowl winners from 1980 – 2008 is 4.83 years, showing that a RB needs a few years to hit his stride

Actually, that doesn’t show anything, Steve. It’s an individual fact, and an interesting one, but it is totally unsupported by your study. As far as what you’ve shown, it also doesn’t have anything to do with their teams winning the SB. I noticed that a few people have correctly pointed out the difference between existence and causality, and it’s a weaknesses in this statement. Please consider that.

Think about it this way: It’s true that the average career duration for a RB is just under 4 years. By your numbers, the important thing is that the RB must be out of the league by about a year before their team can win the SB ;-). Please don’t confuse one thing for the other. Individual facts are seperate points, not conclusions.

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Mar 21, 2009 12:09 PM MDT reply actions  

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