That is really the truth.

This is exactly how I feel. Thank you for putting it into words.

Im right with you on this its really sad seeing everything I love about MHR is now being turned into the blog section of the DP or other MSM media site, which display the f*#king IQ of a shoelace and have no real love or support of the Broncos.

If you want to post or blog do it with with positivity and intelligence, thats one of the main things I have loved about this site, the intelligence that comes from the comments is just as informing to me as the articles.

I too am throwing in the towel right now. Tired of the one paragraph FanPosts….I write three times that much in the comment sections fairly regularly. Not that some one paragraphers aren’t insightful, but usually it takes more than a couple of sentences to inspire intelligent discussion. Knee-Jerk reaction has its uses, but not at the expense of nothing getting read. The FanPost section has about 25 titles along the side of the main page…if everyone is posting about the same topic at the same time it becomes a message board, and a gem of a post thrown up there gets buried within an hour and no one notices or discusses something that was well written.

Thank you Papi for writing about something that was bugging me after being gone for 5 days and seeing the same thing posted about all over the place. I almost missed this interesting post: http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3/15/798475/in-defense-of-jay-cutler-a but I have been diligent tonight…more than I should have considering all of the hub bub over the McDaniels/Cutler soap opera.

I am confident the MHR ship will be righted on its own…can’t blame people for being emotional about this topic. Think of all of the emotion you had with Cutler’s 9 fourth quarter comebacks, or that disheartening loss last year in Kansas City that you had to suffer through live in the stadium. People tend to go crazy when the future of their favorite players are in question. People still go crazy whenever Champ Bailey is talked about in a trade or something…and he hasn’t had much in the way of stats in 2 and a half years! lol Great post Papi…rec’d cause this needs to be read by everyone. :)

Love you man you got me backing you. I really just want this all to be over with!

But people won’t listen and the trolls are out in full force now on top of well intentioned panicked MHRers.

This really is a pandora’s box that won’t end, tonight, next week, next month, or next year. Until either Jay is traded or McD is fired, this will be a national story (like it or not) and every rumor, story, or scrap of information is going to be broadcast, disected and redisected.

The main difference between the Jay versus Plummer controversy was that the change was envitable, it was going to happen, either that year or the next, you can argue about the timing, but it was inevitable.

This saga does not have the feeling, is it a foregone conclusion Jay Cutler will be gone, looks like it now, but I don’t know, it may change, we can only hope. I wish it could be so simple as shutting off the spicket, but unfortunately this is something that will not go away anytime soon.

I understand people’s want or need to take sides, I have and I don’t fault those who take the other side of the arguement. Debate is healthy, it gives a way to look at things in a different persepctive, even if you don’t agree with it. I agree that personnel attacks really have no place here, and simply if you don’t want to listen to the debate, you don’t have to read the fan posts or respond.

I think that the majority of the MHR faithful wish this story wasn’t an issue for debate, but it is what it is, maybe we are all guilty of taking these things too seriously, I mean it really is only a game played by grown men. There are more important things in life we can all worry about. It is frustrating when a somewhat healthy love affair with a team gets turned against the faithful, but I think that this too will pass, we have gone through hard times before, Reeves was fired and that was an initial fiasco that divided loyalties in the faithful, but winning cures all.

As Zappa siad, this is an emotional issue. People will want to post, we will get people over from RMN with its demise and people who have not posted before will have their first dig at it.
I welcome all new members and posters, but in the spirit of Papi’s and Zappa’s blogs/posts lets try and keep the fact that we ar all broncos supporters NO MATTER THE TEAM MAKE UP OR OUTCOME.
Peace.

And let me,as a new comer, appologize for my kneejerk reaction posts that I have made. Before I found this sight I had never been apart of all the blog stuff and didnt even know what it was about. What I do know is I love the Broncos and I have nothing but respect for everyone who loves their team enough to take hours out of their day and inform everyone of what we want(need to know). Im not the smartest guy on earth(thats for sure) so I probably will never be able to make one of those post that turns everyones heads and makes any significant differance, but what I liked about this sight I guess is slightly differant from why you do. I, like you, enjoy reading the very well thought out and thought provokeing post’s that are written here(by the way where is spock?), but also I like the fact that just an ordinary joe schmo like me can write how he is feeling about the state of his team and have others who like wise share the same passion as me(the Broncos) answer my questions, give me advice, give me new perspective on things, or even tell me how wrong I am. To me, as noobie, that is what makes this place so special. Its like my own little Bronco Universe where everyone wants and yearns for the same thing as me…….SUPER BOWLS. So to finish I would just like to say that I hope this community you have here can accept me for being a simple person and that on occassion I may blunder along with my words and say some wrong things but then again thats why I am here, to receive knowledge from those who know more.
Thanks again, and good post Papi!!!!

Honestly, I don’t mind all the speculation and hoopla on the issue. MHR is, in my opinion, the ultimate spot for people with Broncos OCD. Also, It’s easy to quickly get the gist of what a fanpost or comment is about and decide if you want to read it or not. What concerns me is the number of people getting attacked for posting their opinion or trying to contribute to the site. What was initially appealing about MHR for me was the sense that you could post whatever you wanted (as long as it was honest, relatively civil, and didn’t attack anybody) and not have to worry about the “you’re a bleeping idiot” responses that are so prevalent at places like the Denver Post. For example, my first post was about how I think they should get rid of holding and pass interference penalties. Not everybody agreed with me; however, the discussion was friendly, enlightening, and often downright funny. I would like to see more people stick to the “if you don’t have anything nice to say…” approach rather than jump down the throat of any poster that they don’t entirely agree with. There is pretty much always a civil way to disagree (and yes…I know I haven’t always practiced as I preach).

I have said a few things this evening… and I am still pissed off. However, I refrained from saying anything this past two weeks or so until there were some direct quotes to hang a hat (or someone’s head) upon. Those quotes were made… and they were not what anyone was hoping. I, like many fans, love my Broncos. They compensate for many things in my life that I have no control over. While I also have no control over the Broncos, like many, I still have a sense of ownership, or of belonging. I feel a little betrayed by the organization right now. Sure, I am disappointed in Cutler, but he didn’t betray me, just let me down a little, as any youngster may do from time to time. Brandon Marshal he is not.
We got rid of Shanahan for some fairly concrete reasons… and because of those reason I am suddenly frightened by McD. Bowlen never made the appearance, never showed the daily involvement that he promised…. until it was time to make an after-the-fact quote about his “disappointment”.
I don’t intend to be a troll… and I hope that I have not been one. I probably will not post on this again, unless we have some happy turn of events. I just feel like this barren stretch of the sporting calendar, dominated by baseball, (don’t get me started on baseball) rarely interrupted by things like the draft or spotty reports from training camp, just added an eternity, and one which I am almost grateful to have. I really hope that when training camp comes, and turns into the pre-season, something will transpire to convince me to lose my poor attitude and tune in. As it stands now, MHR is all i have, and I don’t want to lose appreciation for that, either.
You are still the best around, I hope the Broncos as an organization do something to deserve this bastion of blue-bloodedness. = )

I’m right there beside you in getting sick and tired of all the negativity and uninsightfulness being posted lately. However, this site is definitely in good hands. There are too many steady-handed, cool, intelligent, and knowledgeable people running this site and posting to it for it to become a playground for idiots, unlike some other sites. The substance will win out and the petty-minded flamers will crawl back to their firewhoeverpopsintotheirheads sites.

HT is still pounding out the best football info pieces on the planet, and we can happily add styg to that comment. Ted is brightening our mondays, Doug is turning out Tracks after tracks, Zappa still reminds us of the hisotry of the franchise, while JohnnyB holds it all together and leads the way: we have plenty of other great people and most of all, the best, hands-down, members in the sports-site world.

This is an unprecedented event since the site began, so it’s normal that there will be change. We also are experiencing tremendous growth, and with growth there is change. But the basis is still very much here, the members are still an experienced and knowledgeable lot, and a few low-brow commenters and posts won’t change that.

Thanks for bringing it up, papi. And don’t worry – it’s still very much the Mile High Report!

13-3 Baby!!

  When is the La-la-land banquet? Orange and blue koolaid is best severed Rocky Mountain cold!

I wish I had an idea of the acceptable flavor of recourse. Sorry if I’m part of the problem. The fact is that its hard to find a positive spin.

1) We’ve all been played by the irresponsible reporting of Mike Klis. This whole thing has continued on the vague reports of ‘a source close to Cutler.’ This could be Bus Cook, Jay’s dad, or Jay himself. It could be anybody, but with only one agenda and our only real mainstream media source has lapped it up like a hungry child and fed it back to us. We, Bronco Nation, bear our responsibility by willingly being played. Make no mistake, This source hasn’t been protected by Mike Klis but FOR him. Had we known the source, I’m sure the stories would have carried much less wieght.

2) The source wouldn’t have had anything to play had our new, at the very least naive, head coach not decided to fix what certainly was not broken. Unfortunately, its hard to believe that we are not not seeing the results of a stupid and ill advised power play gone bad. If he wanted to establish himself as the new, big swinging dick on the block, Brandon Marshall, D.J. Williams and even Champ Bailey would have been better targets with much less risk. The wunderkid created a problem he couldn’t manage and shouldn’t have had the rope to hang himself in the first place.

3) The great irony of it all is that because of 1 and 2, we probably have to face the fact that we never had a ‘franchise’ QB in the first place Cutler’s reaction has been childlike, embarrassing to the Bronco fans like myself who have supported him through thick and thin, and probably the final nail in his chances to be fully embraced by the Bronco faithful. His goose is probably cooked even if he grows a pube sometime before the big team meeting. This guy has quit on his fans and his teammates because his coach wont suck it up and make a committment that no sane man would make to anybody that has behaved like Cutler has the last two weeks. Josh McDaniels is expected to verbally committ to a boy who wont return Pat Bowlen’s phone calls? Who starts putting houses up for sale to pressure the faithful against him and then shows up ready to shake hands and have a laugh? Gimme a break.

So let me be the first to apologize for not knowing what to think or how to feel about this any given day. I’ll wait to share my opinion again until I can jump onto the fantasy that all is perfectly well in Broncoland. By the looks of it, I’ll see you sometime next mid decade.

I must admit that most of my frustration is directed at people who create new posts all the time. My first experience with Broncos blogs was on the broncos.com message board and it drove me insane he amount of either pointless messages of repeats of what had been said a dozen times before with little or no thought. MHR has been a breath of fresh air. I do hope that new members begin to respect it.

Additionally, please refrain for hateful, unsubtantiated comments. Opinions are great but only if your explain your process and why you came to be so passionate as to put your feelings into words for all of us to read.

I posted my first (and only) post after reading this blog for about 9 months. I nervously posted hoping that it was up to the standard that the members here demand (or expect… whatever). I hope that people think first before flooding this site with inane posts that either a) add nothing to the argument or; b) are not comments that couldn’t be added to the comments section of previous posts.

Is there any way of posting a front page that stays there for a while instructing people to respect this site? Maybe it’s just wishful thinking but the post you wrote, Papi, has resonated with me and i agree completely.

Like most of you I love and am addicted to MHR. But the type of repetition that it occurring is discouraging. I will persevere because i really love and respect what TSG has put together but i do worry when people as prolific/interesting/intelligent as you, Papi, white a post like this. Things have got to be in a bad state.

But I will say this…

We have thousands of members, each who should be allowed to give their opinion. There are several stories that I “emotionally check-out” of, but that doesn’t mean it should bnot be discussed further.

MHR was founded to be a place Broncos fans could gather and have their feelings heard, without the “message-board treatment”. That will not change.

From the looks of it I joined up at MHR a few months before you got here, and I know exactly how you feel. I think if you’re going to make a FanPOST and not a FanSHOT, it often requires a little time and maybe (not necessarily though) some research. Right now we have some of the best out there on this network in guys like styg, teach, Guru, Ted, broncobear…I could go on. I’m very pleased to be a member of this site and I have loved every minute of the fine work exhibited in the past. I’m glad you decided to step forward and voice your opinion. I want to again send a huge thank you everyone involved in making this place great. Even if you post something in the FanShots section, you can still add a description, much like in the FanPost section. You can also post a short opinion of yours in the FanShot section if you wish. I understand what you’re saying…the difference between the past posts from members like styg are WORLDS away from the very short opinion posts.

I know all of this comes from you with good intentions, so thanks again man.

Recommended. Anyone who can use a semicolon properly in aces in my book. I didn’t realize you were so new to the site. I have been lurking as long as you have! Crazy…