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MHR's Forgotten Broncos -- Charley Johnson

Charley Johnson was an interesting addition to the Denver Broncos Ring of Fame. When I looked at his wimpy stats and mediocre performances throughout his career, I just didn't get it. But then I realized that this perception is the fundamental problem with a fan from the next generation who examines the worth of a player who retired several years before he (the fan) was born.

Instead, I needed to look at what Charley brought to the Denver Broncos organization that went beyond the mediocre stats and lack of tallies in the win column.  Charley Johnson represented the dawn of a new era in Broncos history. Denver went through about two dozen starting quarterbacks from Frank Tripucka's retirement to Johnson's arrival. The result was as heartbreaking to the fans as it was predictable. Just like today, with Pat Bowlen taking control of his franchise, a team needs stability at the top in order to be successful in the NFL.

Johnson's career with Denver began in his eleventh year in the NFL and he was coming off a five-year stint of mediocre and oft-injured seasons. Johnson entered the NFL with the St. Louis Cardinals and he played very well early in his career, but he was cut in 1969 after four consecutive years of injuries and benchings that led to his dismissal from the team. He was picked up by the Houston Oilers and had a couple of average seasons before joining the Denver Broncos during the 1972 offseason.

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#12 Charley Johnson

Stats aside, Charley Johnson brought one thing that no other player had been able to bring to the fans in Denver up until that point. That one thing was a belief that any game could be won. Not even Floyd "The Franchise" Little brought that core belief to the fans in the Mile High City.

Floyd Little was the best player on the team for the better part of a decade, but it took a stable presence at the quarterback position for Floyd to really begin to enjoy his place on the offense. I have read that his most memorable season as a Bronco before Charley Johnson became the starter was when Marlin Briscoe started the entire season in the late 60's. Little suffered through as many quarterbacks as any player or team should suffer through, but his career definitely found a second wind with ole Charley under center.

The first signs of this came early in Johnson's first season with the Broncos. Back in the early 70's, there were few teams that were consistently a dominate force in the league. The Denver Broncos faced two of those elite teams in consecutive weeks during October of 1972. The first was against the Minnesota Vikings, and firstfan provided an amazing recounting of that game in our very first collaboration just under a year ago.

 

1972 Broncos v Vikings
Mile High Stadium
by firstfan


This game typifies the efforts of the Denver Broncos of the sixties and early seventies. In order to understand the atmosphere in which the Broncos played in this era one must have a feeling for the emotion which surrounded this team and the city of Denver. I am unaware of any other city that has ever loved a professional team to the degree that the people of Denver and Colorado and the Rocky Mountain area loved the Broncos. Even though the team had never even had a winning season in the entire twelve years of its existence, the support never wavered.

The '72 season had started out with a convincing win over Houston. Houston had finished the previous year with a record identical to Denver's and many thought this would be a good measuring stick to see if we were getting any better and the win over Houston gave everyone hope. The next three weeks saw us get crushed by San Diego on the road and Kansas City at home and smothered in Cincinnati. The next week we were home against one of the strongest teams in the entire NFL, the Minnesota Vikings. The Vikings were led by Fran Tarkenton and their defense was called the Purple People Eaters and was perhaps the best defense in the NFL. Minnesota had finished the year before at 11-3 and shared the best record with Dallas. Nobody outside of the Rocky Mountain area gave Denver even a ghost of a chance.

The start of the game went pretty much as most experts on the East Coast thought. The Viking defense just stuffed us. Some people were surprised that Minnesota was having a hard time moving the ball against our own defenders and this was about the time the moniker Orange Crush began to be used. Midway through the second period Minnesota had a 6-0 lead. We stopped them and forced a punt. John Ralston was the coach and he pulled our Quarterback Steve Ramsey and put in the wily old veteran Charley Johnson. Charley must have seen something in that defense that he thought he could exploit. He drove the Broncos to the 36 yard line. Ralston sent in a play from the sidelines. It was a run but Charley changed the play in the huddle to a screen to Floyd Little. Floyd caught the pass, got a couple of blocks, put on a few moves and then outran every Viking defender to the end zone. The fans went absolutely wild and Denver went into the locker room at half up 7-6.

This was a wake-up call to the Vikings and they came out after the half charged up and ready to kill the hapless Broncos. They put up 10 points in the third quarter and took control of the game. The Broncos seemed to have two traits in those days; both of which repeatedly broke your heart. They would start the season with a bang and give everyone hope; then fade away the second half of the season. They did this in games too. They would play close for the first half or even the first three quarters, but then loose in the end. This looked like a typical Bronco game until Minnesota fumbled.

Next came one of the most outstanding performances in the history of Bronco football. Floyd Little took a handoff and was immediately in the sights of Alan Page. That behemoth was ready to kill the 5'10' Little. Somewhere in the far distant future some archeologist working on a dig just north and east of the new Mile High Stadium is going to find Alan Page's jock strap because on that play Floyd Little faked him completely out of the one he was wearing. In escaping Page, Floyd ran directly into a linebacker and put another move on the backer. This guy came closer than Page but could only grab Little's jersey. Floyd dragged him for about five yards before he broke free. The stats showed it to be a 25 or 30 yard TD run but I think Floyd ran about sixty yards to the end zone counting all the cut backs and weaves. I don't know if it is true or not, but one writer said all eleven Vikings had an opportunity to tackle Floyd Little on that play and none could get him down. The fans went nuts and momentum had shifted back to the Broncos. We closed the gap to 16-14.

After an exchange of punts the Broncos got the ball back with less than eight minutes left in the game. We weren't much of a passing team in those days and Ralston orchestrated a time-gobbling twelve play drive. Charley Johnson executed it perfectly. With less than a minute to go Floyd Little scored his third touchdown of the day and the Broncos took a 20-16 lead. The fans went wild. Their beloved Denver Broncos were on the cusp of defeating one of the best teams in the NFC. Unfortunately Fran Tarkenton wasn't done. The hearts of the Bronco players and fans were ripped out once again as Tarkenton engineered a drive and scored with seconds left. The Broncos were defeated 20-23.

A lesser team would have been devastated by this disheartening loss, but not our Broncos. They went out the next week and beat the snot out of the oakland raiders, giving them one of only three losses the raiders would suffer that year.

Charley Johnson was the first talented veteran signal caller to don a Bronco uniform since 1962; when Frank Tripucka retired.

Charley Johnson would throw for 164 yards and a touchdown in that game against Minnesota and gave all Broncomaniacs a glimpse of what was in store for them in the next four seasons. The doormats of the league were finally lifting themselves out of the gutter and opponents would no longer look upon the Broncos as an easy win.

The second elite opponent Denver would face that month would be the hated division rivals, the Oakland Raiders. The Broncos, up until this point, had lost twenty consecutive games against the dirty-rotten scoundrels and their chief henchman in Al Davis, but that streak was about to end. In probably the greatest game the Broncos' fans had ever seen from their team up until that point, Charley Johnson and the Broncos doggedly hung tough with the more talented Raiders all game long, upsetting the eventual AFC West Division Champions, 30-23 in Oakland.

Charley Johnson completed over 70% of his passes and threw for 361 yards and two touchdowns with a quarterback rating of 137.5. It would easily be Johnson's best game of his entire fifteen-year career. The Raiders would go on to claim a 10-3-1 record, but from that point on they would not take the Broncos lightly.

Here is a slide show with a few of the key plays from this game.

Charley Johnson's Career Stats
Year Team G Comp Att Pct Yds TD INT Sck Rate
1961 StL 4 5 13 38.5 51 0 2 n/a 10.9
1962 StL 11 150 308 48.7 2440 16 20 n/a 65.9
1963 StL 14 222 423 52.5 3280 28 21 40 79.5
1964 StL 14 223 420 53.1 3045 21 24 37 69.4
1965 StL 11 155 322 48.1 2439 18 15 20 73.0
1966 StL 9 103 205 50.2 1334 10 11 18 65.0
1967 StL 5 12 29 41.4 162 1 3 2 31.8
1968 StL 7 29 67 43.3 330 1 1 7 57.4
1969 StL 12 131 260 50.4 1847 13 13 11 69.5
1970 Hou 10 144 281 51.2 1652 7 12 15 59.8
1971 Hou 14 46 94 48.9 592 3 7 8 48.7
1972 Den 12 132 238 55.5 1783 14 14 12 74.6
1973 Den 14 184 346 53.2 2465 20 17 26 74.9
1974 Den 14 136 244 55.7 1969 13 9 36 84.5
1975 Den 14 65 142 45.8 1021 5 12 10 46.7
-- Career 165 1737 3392 51.2 24,410 170 181 242 69.2

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Charley Johnson reminds me a lot of Jake Plummer. At least his stats do. I guess if you compared their personalities...they would be polar opposites.

Anyway nice post! I haven’t even heard of this guy. But then again, I was born 10 years later. Keep these great posts comin’ Zappa.

What I want the Broncos to do before the start of next season:
1) Improve the defense drastically.
2) Improve terms with Jay Cutler.
3) Talk Jay into firing Bus Cook as his agent.
4) Sign Torry Holt to a 1 year deal.

Let's go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoholic on Mar 27, 2009 9:47 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Before Charlie Johnson the Broncos had like

1437 different starting quarterbacks in 10 years. Seriously, his stats may be wimpy but he was a major part in changing the losing attitude in Denver.

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

"...he was a major part in changing the losing attitude in Denver."

Exactly. Well said. As soon as I heard the Broncos had signed him, I knew we had a quarterback!

Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance

by bradley on Mar 27, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

History!

I love history!!! The stats are not feel good but man the way it sounds like he played…beastly! of course he retired 9 years before I was born so never got to see him play

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 27, 2009 9:56 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

I too was born later…1978, but you can read Floyd Little’s book for some really great insight on Charlie Johnson the quarterback and what he meant to that football team. I think his nickname was something like “Bandaid” cause he was always playing through pain.. lol

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha

wish our D had a band aid last year!

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 27, 2009 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm..

Severed limbs need quite a bit more than a band aid!

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

butterfly bandage?

I would say that is Dawkins nickname but I just cant see someone surviving after calling him butterfly!

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 27, 2009 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dawkins nickname is Weapon X! Dawkins is awesome...he can fly ya know?

What I want the Broncos to do before the start of next season:
1) Improve the defense drastically.
2) Improve terms with Jay Cutler.
3) Talk Jay into firing Bus Cook as his agent.
4) Sign Torry Holt to a 1 year deal.

Let's go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoholic on Mar 27, 2009 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 27, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish Jay Cutler could play more like Charley. Not in terms of stats, but more in terms of being a team player.

What I want the Broncos to do before the start of next season:
1) Improve the defense drastically.
2) Improve terms with Jay Cutler.
3) Talk Jay into firing Bus Cook as his agent.
4) Sign Torry Holt to a 1 year deal.

Let's go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoholic on Mar 27, 2009 10:22 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I wish...

Cutler could fly… That’d be pretty sweet.

J

by Jezru on Mar 27, 2009 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, I don't understand . . .

I know all about the feud this year, but I don’t remember ever being concerned last year as to whether Cutler was playing for the team.

But I think if we make this thread about Cutler we will have some people angry with us, and rightly so . . .

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I remember

Charley just didn’t have much to throw to. Haven Moses had not yet hit his stride and wouldn’t peak until after Charley retired after the 1975 season. Firstfan commented the Broncos didn’t have much of a passing team, which is an understatement when you consider that Rod Sherman was the leading WR with 38 whole receptions and Little was second best out of the backfield.

What helped Charley more than anything, I believe, was the emergence of Riley Odoms, who began to blossom in his second year in 1973. I don’t believe it was any coincidence that the Broncos then lodged their first winning season ever that year with a 7-5-2 record.

There was no question Charley could throw the ball. He just needed someone, besides Floyd Little, to throw it to.

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by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 10:58 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You are exactly correct!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Mar 27, 2009 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riley Odoms

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OdomRi00.htm

Maybe the best TE the Broncos ever had. Only 5,755 yards in essentially ten years, but it was a different era than Shannon’s. And Odoms was a terrific blocker. I always thought of him as a huge guy, but he was just 230. Broncos drafted him in the first round in 72 (5th overall).

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by bradley on Mar 27, 2009 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

gasp!

Shannon Sharpe is the best ever…Odoms can have second place! :)

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure about that, Zap . . .

Sharpe is the greatest receiving Broncos TE ever, true.

But I have to go with Riley, as an all-around TE. Not even Graham blocks better than Riley did.

——-

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Mar 27, 2009 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the headlines "Dial O for Odems)

I have to throw in with AZdynamics and bradley on this one. The “O” was for offense. He would pancacke a linebacker several times a game.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Mar 27, 2009 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he seemed to own the Chiefs

I remember him scoring 3 TDs in one game against them.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Mar 27, 2009 5:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zappa Sometimes a bit of History is good!

Great Post, pleaseee continue to provide the history of our Broncos, it sometimes provides a look at the future.

Bronco, if you want to compare Plummer to Johnson, you have the truth a “Little” (no pun)bit wrong. Steve Ramsey was a cocky QB with an attitude of Jake the Snake Plummer. Stats do not tell you about that.

Back in those days, #44 was the Denver Offense, who was drafted #1 by the AFL Broncos. How he ended up in Denver is another story. Glad to see #44 told the story about what Charley brought to the huddle.

When he came to Denver as a backup nobody noticed until the hapless O was in shambles and he replaced Ramsey. He was probably one of the best QBs the NFL Cardnials ever had but he took a beating year after year.

Playing for Denver he could not scramble, hell he could not get out of the pocket but he could throw the ball and check off on a coach called play with uncanny instinct. Denver now had 2 offensive weapons.

I remember one game he took a vicious hit and just did not get up right away. He got to his knees and for a moment looked around at the O line. He picked himself up and stays in the game.

Though many younger fans never heard of Charley, he gave the Denver O 3 things, toughness, the will to win and most of all Leadership that we have only seen with a QB that wore #7.
Nuff Said.

by Halfmile on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I'm not bashing Johnson, I'm just saying, they both threw a lot of INTs. I would take Johnson over Plummer anyday.

What I want the Broncos to do before the start of next season:
1) Improve the defense drastically.
2) Improve terms with Jay Cutler.
3) Talk Jay into firing Bus Cook as his agent.
4) Sign Torry Holt to a 1 year deal.

Let's go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoholic on Mar 27, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to knock Charlie Johnson, but Plummer was a winner...

can’t question that. I have no bad feelings about Plummer being our quarterback for those years. :)

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either way...it sounds like our offense wasn't all that good with Charley or Jake. I never got to see Charley play, so I am assuming that Charley was better than Jake.

All I can remember when I would watch a game with Jake under center, is getting angry because he threw an interception. But I guess it is unfair to compare when I have only seen one play.

What I want the Broncos to do before the start of next season:
1) Improve the defense drastically.
2) Improve terms with Jay Cutler.
3) Talk Jay into firing Bus Cook as his agent.
4) Sign Torry Holt to a 1 year deal.

Let's go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoholic on Mar 27, 2009 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that can't be a knock on Charley, Zappa

As I mentioned in my post, Charley was the Broncos’ first winner at quarterback.

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Frank Tripucka is in the Ring of Fame and he

led us to our only .500 season in the first 13 years of our existence! :) Man those were some bad times…

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charley was real smart

and that never hurt a football player. He had a PhD in something, chemistry maybe.

Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance

by bradley on Mar 27, 2009 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Courtesy of Wikipedia

Charley Lane Johnson (born November 22, 1938) was a quarterback in the NFL. During his 15-year career he played for 3 teams; the St. Louis Cardinals, Houston Oilers, and Denver Broncos. During his collegiate career at New Mexico State he became the only person to date to be named Most Valuable Player of the Sun Bowl in consecutive years, winning the award in 1959 and 1960. He is a member of the NMSU Sports Hall of Fame and is the only player in the history of the NMSU football program to have his jersey number (33) retired. He was named to the NFL Pro Bowl in 1963 and is a member of the Denver Broncos Ring of Fame. An engineering major at NMSU, Johnson continued his academic pursuits during his NFL career and obtained Master’s and Doctoral degrees in Chemical Engineering from Washington University in St. Louis while concurrently playing in the NFL. He is currently a professor of Chemical Engineering at his alma mater, New Mexico State University.

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by bradley on Mar 27, 2009 11:58 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

in the engineering field, Chemical engineering is considered the elite of the elite. It isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, and there are great men and innovators in every field, but CE requires high aptitude in every aspect of the field

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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 27, 2009 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a Charley Johnson Poster on my wall

When I was a kid. He was the QB when I became a Broncos fan in 1972 (that is when I remember becoming one anyway).

Thanks for the memories!

by ColoradoOwl on Mar 27, 2009 11:06 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

No problem! I envy you for having been around to see him play

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the things about Charley that caused my jaw to drop

was his uncanny sense of anticipation and communication with his receivers. I remember specifically one replay where it showed the receiver on one side of the defender and Charley passing on the other side. By the time the ball got there, the receiver was, too.

As you implied in your (truly fine, btw) article, Little got better because now the Broncos had a QB the opponent had to watch . . .

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Zappa

Yea sometimes the time just flys, but to set the record straight.. I never ever went to a game with the colors were brown! Wait, TV was in black and white.

Bronco, I was not bashing Plummer or Ramsey, they were both good QBs. In fact both Plummer and Johnson are similar in that they came to Denver late in their careers. They both impacted the teams during their stint, Charley just did it about 20 years before Jake.

And AZD, yep and he gave the fans a belief that, well maybe not the Super Bowl, but we would have a wining season.. and the offense was something to watch instead of going out for a beer and getting back in-time to see the Bronco defence which was about all that we had.

by Halfmile on Mar 27, 2009 12:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great job Zappa!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Mar 27, 2009 12:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

gracias

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 12:37 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

though you supplied the best parts. ;-)

yet again! heh

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot how fun these were

where are you at in the ring of fame cycle now?

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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 27, 2009 12:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I dunno...1986-ish? lol

My goal was to finish them all this off season, but that isn’t going to happen…I should be able to put one together each month. You all know where my focus is right now anyhow… ;-)

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 12:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

drinking?

 or papi’s van? ha ha messin bro

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 27, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually...

juicing up to get drafted #12 overall. heheheh no seriously, my wife and I were not part of Obama’s job protection plan. lol

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ball Handling

What I always remembered about Charlie (other than the impressive Phd), was his ball handling skills. Forever emblazoned on my mind the fake hand off to the full back, he would pivot with the ball on his back hip, and either hand off to Floyd or roll into a play action pass. Charlie Johnson made me fall in love with the play action offense, and he was a true master at the details to make it work.

by BroncoBilly on Mar 27, 2009 12:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You got that right . . .

How many times did I see the camera follow the RB then suddenly swing back to Charley because he still had the ball?

Let’s face it: After Tripucka retired, the Broncos didn’t have a really decent QB until Charley came into the game in 1972, as has already been recounted here. Well . . . Tensi might have been good, had he not been pummeled into a grease spot because of a pathetic O-line.
(And Briscoe might have come through, were it not for Saban’s apparently pre-conceived idea that blacks do not make good QBs?)

In the course of the last 49 years of their existence, the Denver Broncos have had 50 (count ’em, 50) starting QBs. The good ones, we can count on one hand. Charley Johnson was one of the good ones.

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by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 1:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw to add on that 50 starting QB note:

Exactly 25 starting QB’s prior to Elway.
Exactly 7 starting QB’s during Elway
Exactly 9 starting QB’s since Elway

Not exactly 50, but you get the point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Denver_Broncos_starting_quarterbacks

Look at the list and notice how horrible it was during the 1960’s and up until Craig Morton.

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 1:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at that list

brings back bad, bad memories. I just reviewed the W-L records of those first 14 years and shook my head and let out a “whew.” I don’t know how it was possible we Broncos fans stayed loyal throughout that famine. I really don’t, especially when I was a Packers fan prior to the inception of the Broncos . . . you know, those Lombardi Packers who won all those championships.

But I watched that bloodbath between the Boston Patriots and the Denver Broncos on 9 Sept 1960 (the only game to be televised for sometime after that), and I was hooked. I don’t know why. I just was . . . despite those socks (I don’t know . . . maybe because of them?)

Hey, you want to see the original logo?

Well, it’s actually in my avvy here, but there is a better view.

Anyway, you have no idea how ecstatic all of Colorado was to see a good QB come to town! One columnist called Charley “The Touchdown Machine.” And truly he was, compared to what we previously had. We might already have had a “Moses” (WR) on the team back then, but Charley is who brought us out of the wilderness.

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point BroncoBilly

Young Cutler needs to learn this skill immediatly. It makes a huge difference.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Mar 27, 2009 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just left a message with Dr. Johnson's secretary at NMSU

Dr. Johnson is out of the office this week, but his secretary was interested in this Post (she was aware that Dr. J had been a QB for the Broncos) and said she’d check this post and relay the message to Dr. J.

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by bradley on Mar 27, 2009 1:32 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

uh oh...

did I say his stats were wimpy? I meant impressive!

did I say mediocre performance? I meant legiondary performance!

Seriously though, if he does in fact read this…I’ve got nothing but profound respect for him as a man and a player. That and Chemical Engineering frightens me……. ;-)

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by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 1:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure Charley will give you time

to take your foot out of your mouth before he appears, Zap.

And I’m sure that you would have taken Charley over others who might have had “better” stats. Fact is, Charley was a winner (and apparently still is), which is the most important stat of all. You did well in putting that across in your article and subsequent posts.

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great back peddling Zappa!

You kind of remind me of Charlie avoiding a pass rush!

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Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Mar 27, 2009 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1

Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance

by bradley on Mar 27, 2009 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's important to remember...

when looking at QB stats that the game was much different them. O-lineman could not extend their arms or open their hands. DBs could legally mug receivers unless the ball was in the air, and there was no photo analysis and plays called from the booth upstairs. QBs had to rely on what the could see themselves on the field.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Mar 27, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A solid REC for that. :)

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 1:34 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I meant this post for Bradley.

I just forgot to do it as a “reply.”

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Mar 27, 2009 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charley Johnson

His biggest impact was leadership behind the center. This was one of the more underappreciated moves Ralston made in 1972. Tensi was out, Ramsey stunk, Don Horn was a being sent back to GB. When Johnson finally got the starting positon after the almost win against the Vikings Denver was 1-4. He led Denver to a 5-9 record. While that may not seem like a lot it at the time but it was the 2nd most wins team history (68 and 69 Denver was 5-9 and 5-8-1 respectfully). He was a reason behind the 7-5-2 team in 1973 where Denver led the AFC in scoring. If it wasnt for a botched fake punt attempt at Oakland in the last game of 1973 Denver could have won the AFC West. He was a leader. He had 2 legit players to throw to that was Moses and Odoms. Van Huesen was there and Little was one of the first RB’s to be a threat catching the ball. One of my favorite stats regarding Charley is he was the first QB that led Denver to their very first wins on the road at the KC/Dallas Texan Franchise in 1974. (prior to that Denver 0-13 against this team). One of the few players who I believe that belong on the ring of fame with ok stats.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Mar 27, 2009 2:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Charlie was the QB for the Broncos when I First became a Fan. Wow makes me feel like a bit

of history——or am I just having another senior moment….lol Great writeup zappa, keep up the good work.
     A thought for you zappa @ your job situation——-I learned something from my Father, many years ago,
when looking for work——If your determined, You can always find work, may not be ideal—-but you can always
find work….. ok I’ll get off my soap box now…..

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Mar 27, 2009 3:17 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

dude, I am totally not worried at all.

I was just stating that my focus is elsewhere…the rest will fall into place somehow someway. btw, your father was a smart man!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 3:36 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus Zappa has beer

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 27, 2009 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That I do...

if the beer runs dry, then you will see me start to panic.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Mar 27, 2009 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

then we IV you to the Kool-Aid

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 27, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Zappa----After all these years, I still miss him...

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Mar 27, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charley Johnson

was the QB when I first got interested in the Broncos so he will always be one of my favorites. I don’t recall anything specifically that he did, but all I knew was number 12 was our QB and that’s all that mattered!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"tough times don't last, tough people do" - Mike "The Mastermind" Shanahan

by DesertBroncoFan on Mar 27, 2009 9:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Zappa and Firstfan - Great job on this one!

Like DBF, I first started really following the Broncos when Charley was the QB (in 1972). I really liked Charley even though he couldn’t move very well. I loved listening on a truck radio when he hit Haven Moses for the winning TD against KC in ’72 (14-12). I remember reading in the DP an interview in the last game that he started when he said that he was ready to come back in the 2nd half with short passes to move down the field. He found he was replaced by Steve Ramsey and effectively was benched. I think this was ’75. I often wonder how he would do with the OL that we have today.
I also really enjoyed all the comments – “The Making of a Contender” – this is really cool.
Good luck, Zappa, finding an excellent job.

by Blackknigh on Mar 27, 2009 11:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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