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Why Marshall may not get suspended

Like almost everyone, when I first read about Brandon Marshall's latest run-in all I could think was, "Oh well, here we go again." And, like most of the media and members of MHR I assumed that he would probably get suspended. However, after looking into this matter in greater depth I think there is a good chance he doesn't.

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Let me emphasize that, in no way am I saying whether Marshall should or should not get suspended, simply whether I think he will. Here are the reasons I think he will not:

1. A judge dismissed the case. Often in these cases of celebrity run-ins we read that the charges were dropped. But that's not what happened in this case; the case was dismissed. I asked an attorney friend about this one and she explained that there is a huge difference between the two. Often a DA will drop the charges because they don't believe it's worth their time, or they cut some deal with the celebrity. But in this case a judge reviewed the evidence and determined that there was no offense. Either the police officer's account was not credible or, even if true, did not constitute the offense Marshall was charged with. Marshall's attorney said as much. Roger Goodell will have a hard time overruling a judge.

2. What Marshal was charged with, disturbing the peace, is a petty misdemeanor on the order of a traffic ticket. If the Commisioner starts punishing for misdemeanors he is going to have a very hard time drawing the line anywhere.

3. Bigger fish to fry - with the Burress and Lynch issues, Goodell is going to have a hard time suspending Marshall unless he outright bans those two. It's hard to equate gun charges with a shouting match with the fiance.

4. Star Caps - the Commissioner has historically been able to act as judge, jury and executioner because the league has always acted as if his disciplinary actions were beyond judicial review. However, last December a Minnesota judge handed down an injunction against the suspension of several players in the Star Caps incident. The injuction was upheld in federal court. The players may, or may not, win. But Pandora's box has been opened; the courts are willing and able to review NFL disciplinary matters. I doubt if Goodell will want Marshall's case to become a test case for his disciplinary powers.

5.  CBA Negotiations - When the owners opted out of the CBA last year, they didn't just opt out of the revenue sharing. They opted out of the whole thing including the Commissioner's disciplinary authority. The players are already not happy about some of Goodell's high handed ways. If he seems to be too arbitrary and capricious, the union may very well make his disciplinary authority a bargaining chip. If it comes down to $$ or his autrhority the owners may very well throw him under the bus. I doubt if he wants to turn this into a bargaining issue.

Again, I'm not saying whether what Marshall did (whatever that actually was) warrants a suspension, but I think he may avoid one anyway.

BTW: It has already cost him his contract extension. News is that the team will make him an RFA next year and see how things go.

 

Poll
What do you think the Commisioner will do? (not what he should/what he will)
Ignore the consequences and hand down a major suspension (4 games or more)
25 votes
Issue a token suspension just to show he's still in charge.
51 votes
Give Marshall a hand slap and stern talking to.
76 votes
Whitewash the whole thing; it's not worth it.
36 votes

188 votes | Poll has closed

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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WOOT!

See, this is why I read MHR. You guys are freakin’ smart. Well done, SWG!

Color me guilty of assuming the BMarsh suspension was a done deal. (Yes, I’m one of the idiots who considered T.O. based on that idea alone).

One national article I read was titled something like,“The Annual Arrest of Brandon Marshall”. FunnySad. Thanks for the new found hope. Rec’d.

by oxmouth on Mar 6, 2009 12:42 PM MST reply actions  

Great thoughts!!

After Brandon’s great trun-around it would be a shame if an argument with his fiance’ caused him a suspension.

The best defense is a good offense!

by Mike Clark on Mar 6, 2009 12:44 PM MST reply actions  

where did u read this?
BTW: It has already cost him his contract extension. News is that the team will make him an RFA next year and see how things go.

ive only seen that if a new CBA isnt completed THEN he becomes a RFA since FA eligibilty is prolonged. I havent seen anything that says the team is going to make him an RFA. I didnt even think that was something a team could do and that it was part of the original contract.

by purplesocks on Mar 6, 2009 1:01 PM MST reply actions  

I read it

here, but after further reading, Klis is only speculating that contract negotiations are off. He doesn’t actually cite a source. He is probably correct, but it’s still speculation at this point.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Mar 6, 2009 1:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I saw something on this

What I recall is something about an extra year being added because of the removal of the cap, so purplesocks is correct. In an uncapped year, the effect is to add a year before player is eligible for free agency. I assume this was written into the old CBA and is part of the language in the standard NFL contract.

by Colinski on Mar 6, 2009 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice post...you must have read my mind.

I just posted a similar poll in my own post. opps! I totally agree with you though. We are as one.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Mar 6, 2009 1:11 PM MST reply actions  

Hope your right...

But like i said before BMarsh and his fiance’ were arguing about Cutler vs. McX great debate and he got the cuffs…crap.

the internet? that thing is still around?
~Homer Simpson

by ktown on Mar 6, 2009 1:14 PM MST reply actions  

I voted whitewash but...

… I think that there will be some kind of couples counseling or something that he and his fiancee are demanded to take. Something to prove that he (and she) is really trying.

by ohiobronco on Mar 6, 2009 1:14 PM MST reply actions  

Very well thought out

I hope you’re right, SWG. Rec’d!

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Mar 6, 2009 1:23 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah the disordly conduct is a catch all offense

Basically gives the police the right to arrest anyone they feel like, there also is a law for “that which serves no purpose” if you ever get arrested in Montana. Not saying Brandon was in the right, obviously you don’t generally get arrested for behaving nicely, but sometimes cops do look to make a name for themselves and push the limits of the law.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"McDaniels must go!" - Broncoman

by Broncoman on Mar 6, 2009 2:30 PM MST reply actions  

that'd be jacked up

to be arrested for not serving a purpose. they would throw you in existential prison and feed you despair and water…

by oxmouth on Mar 6, 2009 2:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Don't laugh, my frined got arrested for it

Basically coming home from a bar (walking), he was a little tipsey but not hammered, walked into a 7-11 to grab some more beer and walked into a cop, cop started giving him dirty looks and he mouthed off to the cop (no swearing or anything just something regarding donuts) and got thrown in jail, that was the charge. Not sure what the meal was in the Missoula jail.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"McDaniels must go!" - Broncoman

by Broncoman on Mar 6, 2009 3:43 PM MST up reply actions  

you're saying not to laugh

… but the story’s kind of funny. :-)

i mean, if you can’t be hammered in a 7-11, where are you supposed to go?

jail, i guess. but that kind of sucks. so much for montana being the last frontier.

by oxmouth on Mar 6, 2009 4:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I dunno

while I voted slap on the wrist, I am wondering if that will help the overall problem. It is kind of like the TO situation. He was a cancer in the locker room and instead of someone stepping on his face they traded him to be a cancer somewhere else. At some point the behavior needs to stop!

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 6, 2009 3:27 PM MST reply actions  

The dismissal

Had to be because the prosecution asked that it be dismissed. Marshall and his fiancee were in Court about 30 hours after the arrest. That would have been for a bond hearing. There could not have been a dismissal at that time unless the prosecution agreed. My guess is that the reports in the paper were overblown, and this was an “attitude arrest” where the officerrs got tired of sass and arrested them and made them sit in jail for a day, then on Monday spoke with the prosecutor and agreed that the charges should be dropped.

You can observe a lot just by watching. Yogi Berra

by bradley on Mar 6, 2009 3:29 PM MST reply actions  

+1 That was my take on it too.

The cop get tired of the crap and just threw them both in the tank to cool off. Happens all the time…except the national media usually doesn’t run with these stories for 36 hours straight. lol

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Mar 6, 2009 3:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Makes perfect sense, but ...

according to an AP report:

Municipal Judge Clinton Deveaux dismissed the case after Marshall and his fiance, Michi Leshase Nogami-Campbell, both of whom were charged with disorderly conduct, refused to testify against each other.

Something is fishy here, as we discussed in the thread next door. After the Cutler thing I’m blaming the newspaper reporters.

I just hope the Commish puts as much thought into this case as we have! I nominate SWG, Zappa and bradley to help the Commish with his investigation.

by Snaggins on Mar 6, 2009 4:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry Snaggins..you bet me by a few minutes!!

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

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by Steve O' on Mar 6, 2009 4:23 PM MST up reply actions  

This is according to Sports Illustrated
Municipal Judge Clinton Deveaux dismissed the case after Marshall and his fiance, Michi Leshase Nogami-Campbell, both of whom were charged with disorderly conduct, refused to testify against each other.

So that implies that had they both wanted to press charges they both would have been prosecuted. That is a little different than having the charges dropped because the Courts deemed it to be no big deal and not worth their time. They simply didn’t have a strong enough case due to the fact that neither would testify.

I don’t the know the whole truth and the stories seem to conflict depending on who you read. The bottom line is you don’t get arrested unless the officer felt that you were breaking the law. Considering his past, I think Goodell will issue a suspension. Probably 4-8 games.

SlowWhiteGuy writes a great post and strong case as to why he may not so it is possible we all get lucky with this one.

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

"he (Turner) can get perfomance out of a yugo, but that is no reason not to buy a nicer car"....Broncobear

by Steve O' on Mar 6, 2009 4:22 PM MST up reply actions  

i don't want to hang him at all...He is one of my favorite Broncos for certain

I always give the benefit of the doubt…I have to, I’m a Canes fan!

But the fact that the Judge dropped it and not the prosecutor leads me to believe he still wanted to prosecute just didn’t have a the testimony of the other party and the Judge ruled legally that there wasn’t a strong enough case to continue.

Again, I am no legal expert just trying to figure it all out.

"I am not trying to start anything I am just saying that i think if you take Knowshon and draft D later you guys will be hella good next year" ...IamtheGreatest - The smartest Chiefs fan I ever had the priviledge of reading!

"he (Turner) can get perfomance out of a yugo, but that is no reason not to buy a nicer car"....Broncobear

by Steve O' on Mar 6, 2009 4:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Sometimes you do

Domestic disputes as the cop nightmare. We have more officers killed each year in domestice disputes than we do in felony robberies.

A few lifetimes ago I taught unarmed search and restraint to plice officers.One of the things I picked up was that ’we’ll straighten it out at the station’ is an option if there is a problem that doesn’t look like it can be safely left alone. It varies by size of the force, size of the town and behavior of the ‘miscreants’. A trip to the station lets both parties sit down, sober up (emottionally orphysically) and cool off. Apparently it worked. I’m not up on the legalities, but we have folks here who are. I just have a little backgroud on the officers’ side.

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Mar 8, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

In Boulder....

at least at one point the standing order wss that, if the cops roll on a domestic, they have to take someone into custody. There had just been too many times when they cops left after thinking everything was settled, only to have something serious, like murder have just after they left. That could be the situation here.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Mar 8, 2009 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

From what I've heard

thats a rule all over Colorado. I know the someone has to be arrested in Junction at least.

"If you don't know where your going you might find yourself somplace else."

by BroncoJoe87 on Mar 8, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Pretty much the law all over

Since the 80’s, almost all states have adopted a law that says that if the police have probable cause to believe a crime involving domestic violence (i.e., between two people who are, or have been, in an “intimate” relationship), the police must arrest at least one of them. As SWG points out, these laws were enacted after too many incidents where officers thought they had calmed things down, only to find (after they leave) that things get worse (the two people now have even more to be angry about).

You can observe a lot just by watching. Yogi Berra

by bradley on Mar 9, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thats true in Colorado...

A friend of mine got hit in the head with a mirror by his ex girlfriend and he volunteered to go with the cops so she would not get arrested. He was told they had to take someone into custody!

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by boydy2669 on Mar 9, 2009 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it was only 5 hours later...

but I agree that it was probably a case of the cop tired of Brandon’s attitude. But, if the DA didn’t want to continue he/she could have dropped the charges prior to arraignment.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Mar 6, 2009 4:25 PM MST up reply actions  

yes

it sounds to me like the case was dismissed because the prosecution could not produce a “prima facie” case, meaning that even at first blush the judge did not believe there was enough evidence to carry on. Pretty much the opposite of proving guilt “beyond the shadow of a doubt”.

by poorboywilly on Mar 6, 2009 10:03 PM MST up reply actions  

5 hours in jail, 30 hours between arrest and court hearing

From the same report:

Neither one needed medical attention, and both of them were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct and taken to the Atlanta City Jail about 6 a.m. Sunday. They posted bond about five hours later and were ordered to court Monday morning, where charges against both were dismissed.

by Snaggins on Mar 6, 2009 4:30 PM MST reply actions  

speaking of Lynch

Wasn’t he involved in a hit and run? Why is he playing?

by poorboywilly on Mar 6, 2009 10:05 PM MST reply actions  

sorry

the Porsche SUV registered to him was involved…I’m sure he lends out his Porsche to a lot of people.

by poorboywilly on Mar 6, 2009 10:07 PM MST up reply actions  

+ like a bazillion

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Mar 7, 2009 12:05 AM MST up reply actions  

Very good post SWG

Sounds to me that both Brandon and his fiancee need some counseling AND anger management. While he needs his Mojo working for him in a game, he needs the tools to be a good citizen off the field – and to have a productive life after his NFL days are gone.
I think you’re right about no suspension, SWG. Your post is well thought out.

by Blackknigh on Mar 6, 2009 10:38 PM MST reply actions  

He better not be

Kenesaw Mountain Goodell and just suspend him without looking at the facts of the case.

by PABroncofan on Mar 6, 2009 10:40 PM MST reply actions  

looks like you were right on the money with no 4 and 5

According to ESPN one of the four finalists for the NFLPA Executive Director is saying the same thing.

Cornwell is closely tied to the issue of discipline after he successfully argued last season to have a federal judge block the NFL suspension of five players for violating the league’s anti-doping policy. He argued that the suspensions were wrong because the NFL knew about the banned ingredient contained in the dietary supplement StarCaps but failed to share that information with players.

The league has appealed the ruling.

Currently, NFL suspensions are determined by commissioner Roger Goodell. Aside from filing grievances with the NFL, the union’s sole other option is going to court. Cornwell is proposing an appeals process that is similar to that of Major League Baseball and the NBA.

If elected, Cornwell said he would include the issue of discipline as part of the next labor talks after the NFL last year opted out of the collective bargaining agreement.

“If the commissioner regulates player conduct, then it is a term and condition of employment,” Cornwell said. “After the StarCaps’ case and other less publicized decisions, we will fix the problem caused by no independent review of commissioner disciplinary decisions.”

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3962086

by purplesocks on Mar 8, 2009 2:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for the link!

The league was pretty outrageous in the StarCaps case.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Mar 8, 2009 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

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