Divining the McDaniels Way, Part 4 - Propensities and Conclusions
Down/Distance Play Propensities and Conclusions
This series is the outcome of a month-long collaboration between nycbroncosfan and broncobear. In general, NYC covered the stats and Doc handled most of the writing and analysis. We hope that it sheds light on some of the questions that have arisen as to just what, exactly, Josh McDaniels has been doing with the New England offense over the past four years. It also looks at Jay Cutler's time as the primary starter in Denver over the past two years to establish where the Patriots and Broncos do and do not match up. We thoroughly enjoyed working on this project and hope that you will take just as much pleasure in reading it. Hopefully it will answer some of your questions about what to expect of the 2009 Broncos, and we look forward to your comments and critiques. Many thanks to our esteemed colleagues styg50 and hoosierteacher for their input, and to Zappa for his invaluable aid in managing the code and the templates.
Today is our final installment in the series. Previously, we have looked at the rushing and passing games of the Denver Broncos and New England Patriots in order to predict what we might see out of the 2009 Broncos on offense under the tutelage of Josh McDaniels. Now, let's take a look at how each franchise has performed at each down and distance - rush/pass propensity, production and success rates in converting to first downs. Finally, we'll spend a little time on drawing conclusions from all we have seen.
Here are the links to our previous installments:
On 1st Down and 6-10 yards
| Tendency and Success on 1st & 6-10 - Broncos '07-'08 and Patriots '05-'08 | ||||||
| Plays | Rush YPA | Rush% | Pass YPA | Pass% | Conversion % | |
| DEN '07-'08 | 844 | 4.51 | 46.0% | 7.16 | 54.0% | 23.0% |
| NE '05-'08 | 1,754 | 4.51 | 48.4% | 7.07 | 51.6% | 20.3% |
Unfortunately, we could not get statistics for each and every yardage, but it's pretty safe to say that there are very few times you'll see a 1st and 6, and even more rarely a 1st and 8. So, we're generally talking here about what Denver will do on 1st and 10. We've already established that New England has shown a stronger run/pass balance, but here we see how true that is at the beginning of each fresh set of downs.
The Broncos converted more of these 1st and 10 plays into more first downs, which is probably attributable to their heavier reliance on passing plays, which naturally produce a higher yardage per attempt. Oddly, the Broncos and Pats have rushed for the exact same YPA on 1st and 10. It may be just a quirk of statistics, so maybe it's more funny than interesting until you look at the trend in YPA.
| Tendency and Success on 2nd & Short - Broncos '07-'08 and Patriots '05-'08 | ||||||
| Plays | Rush YPA | Rush% | Pass YPA | Pass% | Conversion % | |
| DEN '07-'08 | 203 | 5.69 | 47.3% | 4.81 | 52.7% | 53.7% |
| NE '05-'08 | 455 | 4.15 | 65.5% | 7.06 | 34.5% | 58.0% |
Here is a remarkable difference. Josh McDaniels has strongly favored running the ball on 2nd and short (65.5% of the time), while the Broncos have shown a slight preference toward throwing the ball from a similar down-and-distance (52.7% pass). Their yards per rush and reception indicate perhaps that teams knew what to expect - Denver gained a lot more on each carry than New England did, but the reverse is true for passes. Yardage aside, New England fared better where it counted - in the first-down conversion rate. It's also important to note that in different games, the Patriots would use different strategies on each down and distance, throwing in one game and rushing in the next. Since we know that Cassel was quick to pull down the ball and run, with 74 carries, that may also have influenced the stats as well.
We'd put this down to a difference in temperament and theory. Bates, in particular, would pass in every option. He used this as a chance to have a 'free play' - thinking that he could get the yards on the next play if needed. McDaniels went the other way, methodically making sure that his offense got the 1st down. While both Doc and NYC lean heavily toward the latter approach, both are legitimate options.

| Tendency and Success on 2nd & Long - Broncos '07-'08 and Patriots '05-'08 | ||||||
| Plays | Rush YPA | Rush% | Pass YPA | Pass% | Conversion % | |
| DEN '07-'08 | 457 | 4.61 | 34.6% | 7.41 | 65.4% | 26.9% |
| NE '05-'08 | 959 | 3.72 | 35.7% | 6.92 | 64.3% | 23.6% |
On second-and-long situations, the Broncos have actually been more successful (26.9% success rate) than the Pats in recent years (23.6% conversion). Interestingly, their tendencies are almost identical - their run/pass balances are within 1.1% of each other. However, Denver has both rushed and passed for more yards per attempt on their way to a better first-down conversion rate within this statistic. This can be attributed, at least in great part, to two factors.
The first major factor is in rushing. Denver's much better O-Line, especially as the season progressed, was a huge factor in their running success. Seriously - does anyone believe that Tatum Bell, out of shape and filling in as a last-ditch effort, could have gotten his numbers if the line was still at its early-season level? The line was a big, big key to the Broncos' success as the season went on. Bobby Turner was probably Denver's most valuable factor in getting practice-squad and role players ready, but the line was a close second. To be honest, the backs themselves were a distant third, especially after Hillis went down.
The second major factor was Cutler's arm. That's one area where his strength as a quarterback really made a difference. In the new system, the emphasis that we can expect on the shorter throws will suit the arm strength of Simms or Orton.
If there is a third factor, it may be that Denver passed so much that teams at times seemed off-guard when they ran, and that may have produced some additional yardage and therefore more success on this and on other downs. It certainly shocked us when they ran.
| Tendency and Success on 3rd & Short - Broncos '07-'08 and Patriots '05-'08 | ||||||
| Plays | Rush YPA | Rush% | Pass YPA | Pass% | Conversion % | |
| DEN '07-'08 | 86 | 4.94 | 60.5% | 6.21 | 39.5% | 66.3% |
| NE '05-'08 | 178 | 3.39 | 65.7% | 6.31 | 34.3% | 69.7% |
Again, we see a heavier reliance on the run by McDaniels in short-yardage situations, this time on 3rd down. The Patriots also managed a better conversion rate on 3rd and short with McDaniels calling plays despite their lesser YPA. It's a good example of their offensive efficiency. It's also important to note the small sample-size for Denver on these two charts (3rd and short/medium), as we are looking at only two seasons with Jay Cutler at the helm versus four years of Josh McDaniels' play-calling, and one season where the attrition at RB was enormous. Still, there should be enough here to show a trend.
This is yet another area that we can place the blame upon Bates' play-calling. As mentioned above, it is fair to say that the run-blocking wasn't that strong in the first few games of the 2008 season. As the season went on, however, and the O-Line meshed, the running game took off, but Bates inexplicably took it off the menu. It was bizarre.
It doesn't matter what kind of blocking scheme you use. If you don't know, with all your heart, that your O-Line and backs can pick up the yards you need on third and short (and even more so on 4th and short), you have a huge problem. If you have a back like Hillis or Pittman, whether you use him as a fullback or a halfback, and you don't use him driving behind your line to pick up this down, you're going to have serious problems as the season wears on.
On 3rd and medium (3-5 yards)
| Tendency and Success on 3rd & Medium - Broncos '07-'08 and Patriots '05-'08 | ||||||
| Plays | Rush YPA | Rush% | Pass YPA | Pass% | Conversion % | |
| DEN '07-'08 | 92 | 4.44 | 19.6% | 4.19 | 80.4% | 42.4% |
| NE '05-'08 | 216 | 3.92 | 22.7% | 4.39 | 77.3% | 45.8% |
Once more, we see similar numbers, with a slightly more balanced attack from McDaniels and the Patriots to go along with a better conversion rate. The Patriots' rushing YPA continues to be lower, but they still have better production in terms of effective outcomes - achieving first downs. This is a another good example of the greater level of efficiency of the Patriots' attack under McDaniels.That's a coming change which suits Denver's players and needs. It's also another place where numbers can fool you. Yes, the Broncos had a better YPA with their overall rushing game - but did they use it enough, or at the proper times?
Combining the more appropriate use of the rushing attack with the efficiency of the short pass which New England has been noted for is going to be an exciting change in the Broncos' offense in years to come.

| Tendency and Success on 3rd & Long - Broncos '07-'08 and Patriots '05-'08 | ||||||
| Plays | Rush YPA | Rush% | Pass YPA | Pass% | Conversion % | |
| DEN '07-'08 | 222 | 5.22 | 10.4% | 7.82 | 89.6% | 36.0% |
| NE '05-'08 | 468 | 4.36 | 16.5% | 7.18 | 83.5% | 33.8% |
Again still, we see McDaniels calling for running plays far more frequently than the Broncos have in recent years, although in these 3rd-and-long situations this strategy was a bit less successful. This is another indicator of the unpredictable play-calling of the Pats. However, Denver is better in every category - yards per rush, yards per pass and first-down conversion rate.
This is a great example of the amoeba offense. They were constantly unpredictable. It's worth noting that they weren't as successful as the Broncos on this down and distance. However, over the course of the game, being unpredictable has notable advantages.
Here is another area where the arm of Jay Cutler probably made the difference. His 20 turnovers may have cost the team a lot, and he may have certain issues of professional maturity (focusing his eyes to much on his primary target, etc) but his arm, the effectiveness of his O-Line and the skill of the Broncos receivers combined to make the difference in this stat. Denver fans may take heart in remembering that two-thirds of the passing attack is coming back for the 2009 season.
On 4th Down
| 4th-down Success, DEN '07-'08 & NE '05-'08 | ||
| 4th Dn M/A | 4th Down % | |
| DEN '07 | 7/22 | 31.8% |
| DEN '08 | 4/10 | 40.0% |
| DEN Avg | 5.5/16 | 34.4% |
| NE '05 | 13/17 | 76.5% |
| NE '06 | 16/20 | 80.0% |
| NE '07 | 15/21 | 71.4% |
| NE '08 | 17/22 | 77.3% |
| NE Avg | 15.3/20 | 76.3% |
Aggression and success on 4th down - While Bill Belichick made the decision whether or not to go for it on 4th down, it was Josh McDaniels' play calls that made the Patriots remarkably successful on such attempts. Their 76.3% conversion rate over the past four seasons is nothing short of staggering. David Romer's Cal-Berkeley study on NFL coaches' decisions showed that coaches tend to make the wrong decision on 4th down, lowering their chances of winning by kicking rather than going for it.
The Broncos' sorry success rate is frustrating. They had an offensive line that wore out the superlatives and, for most of the season, a couple of good, big backs in Hillis and Pittman (to a lesser degree). What was the problem? There is no easy answer, but the tendency to pass, pass, pass too often led to fail, fail, fail.
Granted, Belichick has an awful lot of currency in New England and maybe he can afford to take these chances, eschewing the easy three points for the shot at a more decisive touchdown. Josh McDaniels may not have earned that same cachet, but hopefully he's got the guts to go for it when the math is in his favor. Belichick understood this, and he himself read Romer's study. Let's hope that he made it required reading for his entire offensive staff. Of course, sometimes going for it on 4th down is so exciting that the refs start to block.
Conclusions
So, given all of this, what conclusions can we draw? Some are simple, some are not. In a recent interview, McDaniels refused to answer some questions on the running game, saying that it was "secret." We don't know what the secret desire he hinted at with the running game is, but what do we know?
First, we know that McDaniels loves his gap blocking, using a pulling guard. Since we also know that Denver's guards have happy feet and nasty dispositions, that one is elementary. Denver will increase the rate of gap blocking. We'll also continue to see lots of zone blocking, and we love that Dennison and Turner are staying on. The entire offensive line is returning, and that alone is cause for serious joy. If the Broncos have a secret, or not-so-secret weapon, the O-Line is it.
The Running Game
We can expect a few changes on the halfback-side of the running game. McDaniels so far has made extensive use of the draw and of running between the tackles. Will that continue? It remains likely. Since his tackles in New England weren't great blockers, that could still change as he gets comfortable driving the tank that is the Broncos Front Five but only, we believe, in degree. As fine as Denver's tackles are, they will still be running more up the middle more next year. There is a long precedent.
In kenjutsu, the Japanese art of sword fighting, there is a principle - attack the center! It involves using your hara, your own energetic center, and dominating your opponent to the point that anything he does will fail. This principle is related to something called aiki - it is said that when a general who has mastered aiki mounts his horse, the opposing army will surrender. For the Broncos to apply this principle and break the will of the opposing defense, they need to be able to attack the center of that defense, combining a talented O-Line with effective inside running. It's a common principle in attacking the 3-4, which San Diego runs very well and Kansas City is changing to. The Broncos need to be able to run the ball well up the middle. The New England offense mastered that well. The Broncos' line is exceptional and they have the running backs to do so (although one more wouldn't hurt). Look for more runs up the middle this year.
One thing that the current halfback corps should love is that there will be an increased emphasis on passes to the backs. Correll Buckhalter, LaMont Jordan and J.J. Arrington are all skilled here - so are Peyton Hillis and Selvin Young, while Ryan Torain seems to have some potential as well. More on that in a bit. Blocking skills will also be greatly appreciated. Hillis and Arrington, in particular, should benefit from that. All the others have at least some skills there to contribute.
The Injury Game
Will the running game depend upon a committee? Almost certainly. McDaniels made a comment to that effect on his radio interview on 104.3 The Fan. In Doc's opinion, that's a smart decision. Why?
The modern NFL player is bigger, stronger and faster than a decade ago. It wasn't long ago that a 300-pound offensive or defensive lineman was a matter for comment. Now, having one smaller than the 300-mark garners more conversation. In proportion, that extends to nearly every player on the field. That means a lot of young, stronger and faster players. One equation for force is mass times velocity squared (F = M x V²). The increase in mass is one factor. The modern increase in speed is even more of a problem for those on the receiving end of hits.
Modern training techniques (when employed) are producing young men who are stronger and faster at younger ages. The system that moves the best of the best from high school, to college, to the combine and on to the NFL will probably continue. Combined with modern nutrition, this will carry forward to produce the players who hit harder. This portends that injuries will continue to be a constant or rising problem.
Last year, a lot of folks pointed to Adrian Petersen, before the season, as a model of how you could use a back in the traditional system of a single workhorse back. But by the end of the year, he was battered, bruised, exhausted, and his production was lacking. He's as good a back as there is in the game, but he's now working on gaining muscular weight, a belated attempt to put a bigger layer of protection around his body. Drafting him a more skilled change-of-pace back or three would do even more for him. If he isn't platooned, at least in part, his productive career will be shortened.
In San Diego, LaDanian Tomlinson is facing some of the realities of life as a running back. He's spent much of the past two seasons injured, his production is down, and he's just turned thirty. Platooning with Darren Sproles will help, assuming Sproles chooses to sign his tender.
It's a tough game, and it won't get easier. The platooning system is one way of minimizing injuries, maximizing team production and increasing the life-span of your running backs. Doc believes that it's here to stay.
There may have been an over-emphasis on the role that injuries played in the Broncos' 2008 season. When the injury bug hit New England, they responded by bringing BenJarvus Green-Ellis up from the practice squad. In two games, as the primary ball-carrier, he produced 162 yards rushing with 2 touchdowns on 41 carries. In fact, the Patriots' balance actually increased from a 46.1%/53.9% rush/pass split to 75 rushes and 70 passes in those two games (51.7% rush). They responded by tossing the norms aside and rushing the damned ball. Although the Patriots split the two games (losing a heart-breaker in Indy and beating Buffalo), they dominated the clock with an average TOP of 36:02.
The Passing Game
The passing game should see a lot of changes, and we believed that Cutler would benefit from it. Since he's gone, could Simms and Orton also look for better numbers? Almost certainly. Not bigger - better. We felt like the Broncos lost the difference. The Patriots' emphasis on accuracy, consistency and taking what you are given instead of forcing in an effort to get the big play will help them maximize their natural gifts. The use of the running-back pass will also help, placing an emphasis on other check-down receiving options.
Keep in mind that as of right now, the Broncos have kept Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal, Brandon Stokley and Chad Jackson (for now), added Jabar Gaffney and have Scheffler and Graham as well as lesser luminaries. With the return of the entire offensive line, Denver has kept far more of its passing game then it has lost. The quarterbacks will show different skills, but both are talented young men. Given Coach McDaniels' level of knowledge and skill, it's not difficult to see that the Broncos' offense is in very good shape entering 2009.
Last season, Doc felt that Jeremy Bates had lost his way in the passing game by Week Four, particularly in one area. Do you remember the incredible stutter route with which Royal destroyed DeAngelo Hall in the Monday Night opener? Royal's early double-fake routes? Many of the innovations that thrilled us as fans in the first quarter of the season seemed to get lost as the season progressed. We've put it down to immaturity in coaching. The Broncos didn't make good adjustments and they left pieces that worked in a box, kicked under the bench.
This is another area where McDaniels' background could be a tremendous fit with the current Denver team. His maturity as a play-caller is undeniable. Those who question his professional intelligence need to spend some time with the Patriots' 2007 offensive stats. Even a team with the best of players needs the best of coaching to succeed.
New England has a player with great talent at receiver but who had a reputation for letting his emotional nature interfere with his personal life and professional career in Randy Moss (although he seems to have cleaned that up). Now, McDaniels has Brandon Marshall to mentor. The Patriots' passing attack also featured the great route-running of Wes Welker. Now Eddie Royal's abilities can be honed, developed and maximized in the same way, a thought that has to bother opposing defensive coordinators. And then there is Jabar Gaffney, already familiar with McDaniels' terminology and scheme and a solid, productive receiver in his own right. If you add Stokley, whose slot running is at times similar to Welker's, perhaps Chad Jackson and potentially, we believe, a receiver or tight end from the draft, you have a fantastic fit, merging old with new.
Tight Ends
Don't expect for a minute that Denver wants to trade Tony Scheffler unless the contracts have been signed. McDaniels used tight ends extensively in 2005 and even in 2006, but three things happened - Randy Moss, Wes Welker and the exit of Daniel Graham.
Although Graham has always wanted to be used more as a receiver, he's too valuable as a two-way threat. Graham was lauded by McDaniels when the two worked together, and with the preference for the pass and for multiple receivers including a tight end, Scheffler will be likely to get his catches if he stays healthy.
The H-back Role
Consider, for a moment, the possible role of the player that we like to call an H-back. As those of you who have read Doc's article The H-Back: Using the Magic Option know, he's always a little leery of this term, because it's often used without context or specific meaning. However, for right now, let's consider it as a running back who can play near the line and receive, but who can function in the running game as well - carrying, blocking in addition to his position as a back/receiver.
Doc: I know that I've mentioned Peyton Hillis in this role, and it's impossible to ignore his potential effectiveness as an H-back. But to pigeon-hole him in that position is to ignore how New England employed their running backs at times.
McDaniels employed a shotgun-spread formation with two or three wideouts, one tight end and a back, all spread out across the field near the line. At times he would do this with only four players - two wideouts, one tight end and one back, but he could and did substitute an extra WR or TE into the play. The running back was simply used as a receiver. Could Hillis be effective in this role? Heck Yes! He could do some serious damage.
But, so could Buckhalter, Arrington or Jordan. Many people have questioned McDaniels' acquisition of these players without carefully considering the context of his play-calling. Taken in the context of adding weapons to the arsenal whose tactics match those McDaniels employed in New England, they make perfect sense - and Young and Torain, if they can stay healthy, could certainly flourish here as well.
In one sense of this all-too-often loose term, any and all of these players can move into the H-back role. We often limit our thinking to a back/tight end who plays near the line in addition to the tight ends. That's one way to talk about it - perhaps the closest to what HoosierTeacher spoke of in his seminal piece, Football University - The Coming Storm (Magic 3). But whatever the terminology, New England played a running back in a wideout role in addition to the tight end(s) commonly, and that's a potent weapon that all of Denver's current backs can provide.
Since the Patriots' version of the spread formation tried to expand the field horizontally as well as vertically, look for increased use of routes that employ unusual angles, as New England did with Welker, bringing him across the field to that low crossing-route. Expect to see the tight end to drop into a halfback slot, multiple tight-end sets that will often look familiar and a lot of motion from the tight ends. Anticipate more receivers on the field: wide receivers, tight ends and running backs. Unless there is a major reason, look for the fullback (whoever it is), to have a limited, but essential role - keeping the blitzers off the quarterback. And expect McDaniels to thank his karma for permitting him to use the Denver O-Line.
We believe that the new season will see an increase in the Broncos' scoring. The problems that the Broncos had were generally ones in which the coaching played a big role. The discomfort with running effectively at the goal line was sad to see. Next year, the play calling will be quite different. If history is any judge, it will be much better.
And finally - expect the plays to change each week, and to see the Broncos finally make offensive and defensive adjustments during the games and during the season. It will take time to establish the new offensive and defensive approaches. This is not a small thing that Denver has decided to do. But in the end, we believe that all signs point to a good outcome, and a steady development of the Broncos' players and team over the next two years. McDaniels understands how to win now and build for the future concurrently. His words and
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NYC and Doc....what an awesome end to the series. You guys are super stars!!!!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 12:12 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
+4000000
A new bar has been set for depth and analysis. Great work!!!
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by broncosmontana on Apr 14, 2009 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with boydy as well.
Where else are you going to get stuff like this? Nowhere. I tell you without reservation we have some of the best analytical talent in football right here at MHR.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Apr 14, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
BTW, rec'd.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Apr 14, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post once again guys. rec'd
One thing to mention, those “minor” differences in percentages represent a huge number of actual plays. So 3% could equal several dozen plays at least…just sayin’, in case someone thinks the differences are not all that great.
Also, anyone else have their color scheme jacked up? All the links are blue instead of orange! Barbaric! It’s not even Bronco blue either! heh
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by Tim Lynch on Apr 14, 2009 12:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep...got that too Zappa!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
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by broncosmontana on Apr 14, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's with the sky blue?
I thought my computer had taken a dump.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Apr 14, 2009 6:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah ok...it must just be some screw up in the html code...who knows
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by Tim Lynch on Apr 14, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What blew me away
were (a) the 4th down stats and (b) the overall maturity shown in the personnel decisions McDaniels has made thus far when held up to his previous predispositions.
We may struggle at times in ’09, but even so this will be a fascinating transition to witness as a fan.
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
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by broncosmontana on Apr 14, 2009 12:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed!
Look how many more total offensive plays they had. I think that is called time of possession.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Apr 14, 2009 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh yes, T.O.P.
How I’ve missed that! Those halcyon days when we went up big then dominated with the run to the tune of 45 minutes. happy sigh
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
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by broncosmontana on Apr 14, 2009 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fascinating that the Pats Ran More Effectively on a Lower YPC
On so many levels, this series demonstrates why you can’t read football stats the same way you do stats from other sports. So much depends on context, talent, schemes, and the like. And I think it’s all epitomized by the fact that the Pats benefited from committing to the run more than the Broncos, even though they ran less efficiently in terms of YPC.
A whole bunch of thoughts.
One way to remembers Jay-C in 2008 is that he used his arm strenght on third down to dig himself out of the hole pass-wacky Jeremy Bates dug on first and second downs.
Sample size is an issue on the fourth down conversion rates, but the difference is so substantial that I’m sure a T-test would say it’s statistically significant.
NYCB — I wanted to reanimate a few questions from Part 3. I was surprised to see the long/short passing breakdowns look the same for each team. Do you have any sense of how they would have compared if you’d added another classification, so that passes were coded short/medium long? I would be shocked if the Broncos and Pats didn’t live at different ends of the short category as you coded it.
Going forward, one more piece of the puzzle might be to look at passing in terms of routes rather than results. A lot of the Patriots’ 10-yard gains likely came on balls caught 4-5 yards past the line of scrimmage, as opposed to the Broncos’ larger gains, on which, if memory serves, a 10-yard pass was probably caught 8-9 yards from the line of scrimmage. It would be fascinating to see a comparison of the passing game in terms of air distance/reception as opposed to net yards/reception. Sorry to bring this up here, but nobody’s touched the comments on Part 3 for awhile.
Anyway, it’s pretty easy for me to sit back here on my lunch break and suggest a bunch of numbers for you to run. Sorry about that — I don’t mean to seem ungrateful. This is fascinating stuff. While I think the 2009 offense would have been better with Cutler, I am fully convinced that it will score significantly more points than the ’08 version with either orton or Simms at the helm.
by Chibronx on Apr 14, 2009 12:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for your kind words, CB
Unfortunately, the stats available out there can be limited in some instances. As for those passes you ask about (short or deep but no medium), I’m going off the numbers the NFL’s statisticians put out. I’ve found passing stats broken down into more categories for individual players, but nowhere have I seen them for teams.
As for pass patterns, I have never seen any stats anywhere. Like you, I would love to see such a thing.
For what it’s worth, Doc and I are working on a comparison of Cutler, Orton and Simms. However, it’s in a relative state of infancy thanks to this project we’ve just completed.
by Douglas A. Lee on Apr 14, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for all the work
I just want to be clear that I’m bringing these questions up because it’s obvious that you care about precision, accuracy and outcomes, not because I found this project wanting in some way. I’m treating this series like a peer-reviewed journal article because it deserves it.
by Chibronx on Apr 14, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No disclaimer required, CB
Your questions are valid and sensible!
by Douglas A. Lee on Apr 14, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Series
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Victor Frankl:
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Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
by wyoeng on Apr 14, 2009 12:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
In this day and age it is so hard to believe this site is not a subscription service.
Much appreciated!
Bear, in regards to the discussion on running backs by committee and how my thinking is now going… my initial reaction has to do with how much of a running back’s success, regardless of “who” that is, has to do with the offensive line. How easy it is to overlook this and I am glad attention was brought to this. Is this a reason to wait until the 3-5th round to go after a RB?
Incorporating kenjutsu, hara, and the aiki provided a wonderful context in which to understand what we may very well see from here on out. Is it possible to say this loud enough? The Broncos need to be able to run the ball well up the middle.
In addition, the Injury Game Section, imho, is the best argument for a RBBC (or RBC?) approach I have seen so far. Physics never lie. With the offensive tools the Broncos have there are endless amounts of personnel that McDaniels can use on any given play.
5 offensive linemen + Orton/Simms + Marshall + Royal = the 8 given to be on the field the majority of plays.
That leaves three from the rest of the tool box. Hillis, Graham, Scheffler, Stokely, Moreno (if drafted), Buckhalter, Arrington, Jordan, Jackson, Gaffney, Torrain. I hope I am not that only one getting excited about the potential here.
I am curious to know: did you guys coin the term platooning system?
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 14, 2009 1:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly - I'm not sure
did you guys coin the term platooning system?
I don’t recall having seen it, but it just made sense. On the other hand, I see over 300 articles a week. Doug?
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 14, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great call Blackshirt...I am excited as hell too man!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No matter what combination is used...
There will be five legitimate playmakers on the field for Orton/Simms to utilize. Oh, and I must reiterate, this is on top of our stellar O-line.
What more can we, as fans, ask for?
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 14, 2009 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic, in depth series that puts the larger sports sites and writers to shame.
Honestly, this is better than anything I’ve seen at espn, si.com, etc. I’m not kidding about that either.
Keep up the great work!!!!
by powderaddict on Apr 14, 2009 1:20 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow
Thaks for this great series and excellent wrapup. Gets me excited to see how this all comes to fruition.
by bchiper on Apr 14, 2009 1:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
My big beef with Bates...
When he found a play that worked, you never saw the play later in the game, or in crunch time. I’ve always subscribed to the notion that when you find a weakness in a defense, you keep hammering at it until the other team finds a way of stopping you.
It’s interesting that you pointed out the stutter and double-fake routes run by Royal in the opening Oakland contest. Great plays, well designed, and never to appear again the rest of the season.
by nativesun on Apr 14, 2009 3:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And he’d do just the opposite with plays that consistently didn’t work. Hey look, this play hasn’t worked 3 times, let’s run it another 3 times! Arrrggghhh!!
If I never see that gd WR bubble screen again, it’ll be too soon!
by AllBroncsallday on Apr 14, 2009 3:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's exactly what we found
You know on the WR screen – I saw NE use it. I just didn’t see them telegraph the danged thing, and it worked fine. It worked fine the first few times Denver ran it, too. Just not the 74th….75th….
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 14, 2009 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems like NE ran it differently than we did
but I don’t have the time to compare the two… They looked like two different plays to these untrained eyes. (I consider myself a novice still at HTs knee when it comes to understanding the X’s and O’s, so I could be way off here).
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 14, 2009 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The blue comments
and underlined titles are almost more than I can take….
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 14, 2009 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's bizarre
What world did we wake up in today?
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 14, 2009 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be fine with it
If it worked on a consistent basis. Seems to me that, at least the way the Broncos ran it, it was an easy ID for the DB.
Hey look, two WRs standing right next to each other. At the snap, one steps back and waits while the other runs out to block. Gee, I wonder what play they’re running??
Seems like the “Wildcat” to me- a gimmick that might work a couple of times when the D doesn’t know to look for it.
I dunno, maybe I got sick of that play after seeing it run 10,342 times (it actually worked twice, if my math is correct here) at CU when Shawn Watson was the OC.
But like I said, I’m all for running plays that work, WR screen or whatever. ;)
by AllBroncsallday on Apr 15, 2009 12:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This place is awesome! ! !
I couldn’t stand that Bates chose not to run at times,
“It’s interesting that you pointed out the stutter and double-fake routes run by Royal in the opening Oakland contest. Great plays, well designed, and never to appear again the rest of the season.”
I agree these were great plays, I only question will Simms or Orton have the arm to throw deep for these routes?
TIME OF POSSESSION ! ! !
GO BRONCOS ! ! !
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by monodono on Apr 15, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work guys
Hard to imagine it being any better. You both should be proud of this series. Great Job!
Moreno & Maualuga in '09!
by Steve O' on Apr 14, 2009 4:17 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Much food for thought
The Broncos had a better conversion rate in all of the longer yards to go situations — first and 10, second and long, third and long — but the Patriots did better in all the rest. Yet the Broncos had a dramatically better rushing YPA in those situations, including a staggering 1.5 yard differential on third and short. Given that they rushed over 60% of the time in the latter situation, and had nearly the same YPA passing as the Patriots, how did they manage to trail them in conversion rate? Offhand, I can think of two explanations. One is that we might have had a significantly lower completion percentage when we passed in short yardage situations. If you rush it matters how much yardage you gain, but if you pass it’s a binary condition. Either you complete the pass and get the first down, or you don’t. If you do it doesn’t matter, as far as conversion rate is concerned, whether you gained 2 yards or 15. It’s the completion percentage that matters.
Having virtually the same passing YPA but a lower conversion rate could come down to differences in play calling and QB style. With the Broncos you have a QB trying to thread the needle against tight coverage, who also has a tendency to gamble and go for the big play rather than the sure first down. We might have gained more yards per completed pass, but got the same YPA by completing fewer passes. With the Patriots you have a QB who’s better at finding the open man against tight coverage, a system which is more willing to check off to a back with running room, and a philosophy (which the QB will adhere to) that prefers a sure first down over a longshot home run. In that system you’re more likely to see a lot of plays that get just enough for a first down, rather than a whole lot more or not quite enough.
A second explanation for our lesser short yardage conversion rate is that our runners might get stuffed more often. That might seem to fly in the face of stats that show a much higher average gain, and even moreso stats that show that Denver led the league, or close to it, in not getting stuffed. But the latter stat, unless I’m mistaken, refers to all rushing attempts and isn’t necessarily inconsistent with a propensity to getting stuffed against short yardage and goal line defenses. In such situations gap blocking with bigger linemen might more consistently be able to wedge out a yard or so against a stacked defense.
Lacking further information I’m inclined more towards the first explanation. Given the enormous difference in fourth down conversion rates it would be interesting to know what the rate of rushing vs passing is, and if possible the completion percentage of the passes in addition to the average gain of the rushes. The overall effect of Doug’s stats is to show that New England was better, spectacularly so on fourth down, at simply keeping the ball when the possibility of turning it over on downs loomed. With McDaniels’ system and with Orton running it I think we have a good chance of duplicating or even bettering New England’s conversion rate. Especially encouraging to me, Doug, is Peter King’s column that you cited in Horse Tracks in which he states unequivocally that McDaniels likes Orton “a lot”. Could it be that he got the man he wanted and that humongous haul of draft choices? At least with articles like these we’ll have lots of mental nutrition until they start playing for keeps. Amazing work, guys.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Apr 14, 2009 4:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Spock,
On 3rd and short, here is the breakdown – the Broncos rushed 52 times, converting 37 times for a terrific rate of 71.2%, although their passing was less successful – 21 tries with only 11 conversions, or 58.8%. The Pats over 4 years ran 117 times on 3rd and short, converting 84 times for a similar 71.8%. The difference comes via the pass – NE passed 61 times with 40 conversions, or 65.6%. Keep in mind that with such a small sample size, a few long plays can easily skew the YPA.
As for 4th down, the issue of small samples is why I chose not to include rush/pass splits. The difference between the winning Pats and the .500 Broncos is that New England was going for 4th down in mostly short situations, to ice games or because the odds were in their favor. Of the Pats’ 79 4th-down plays, a staggering 52 of them came with just 1 or 2 yards to go. In contrast, the Broncos were going for it because they had to – of their 32 4th-down plays, only 12 were for short tries. Another 12 tries came with 3-5 yards to go, and the other 8 attempts were for 6 yards or longer. In contrast, the Pats only went for it on 4th-and-6 or longer 10 times in 79 4th-down plays.
I know that’s a bit of a jumble, but hopefully it makes some sense. I really think conversion rates are more illustrative than YPA for the most part here, again because of the relatively small sample sizes. What’s consistent here is the Patriots get the yards they need to get in order to move the sticks – the Broncos just amass yards, but fewer points and first downs.
by Douglas A. Lee on Apr 14, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So as I suspected it was passing that made the difference
We barely made over half, 52.4%, whereas the Patriots had 65.6%. That’s a huge difference. When he passed on third and short Cutler was a lot less effective than the New England quarterbacks. I suspect not throwing to the backs was the main reason. As for fourth down plays, I see what you mean about the difference in game situations. I was actually suprised the Patriots had so many tries, 34.2%, that weren’t short yardage, but I was stunned that this was true 62.5% of the time for the Broncos. Given that a third of the Patriots’ fourth down tries weren’t short yardage, that they exceeded their third and short rate that much, or at all, is remarkable. Conversion rates aren’t merely more illustrative than YPA. They’re the key piece of information which explains, as much or even more so than turnovers, the offensive success differential, that “the Patriots get the yards they need to get in order to move the sticks – the Broncos just amass yards, but fewer points and first downs.” Great use of stats to make a really important point.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Apr 14, 2009 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops
Sorry, Spock. I had the percentage right, just not the breakdown for the Broncos’ 3rd-down passes. 11 for 21 was just their ’08 stats. Their 2-year total was 20 for 34, hence the 58.8% number. Obviously, ’08 brought that rate down.
I know, I’m killing you with bumbled stats recently. I was tired! Haha. Appreciate all of your kind words, Spock – not to mention your always insightful analysis.
by Douglas A. Lee on Apr 15, 2009 5:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our next series
Will talk about why McDaniels wanted Orton this much and how his background and skillset matches up against Simms, as well as showing how the on field situation with Cutler played out when measured against those two. I think that you’ll find it interesting.
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 14, 2009 5:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Man I can't wait!
Thank you guys so much for the excellent series.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Apr 14, 2009 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This series lays the groundwork nicely
by highlighting Cutler’s tendencies. Doug’s followup comment, showing that when we passed on third and short we converted only 52.4% of the time, was striking. It reveals an offense capable of ripping off big gains and then sputtering and turning the ball over on downs (or via turnover), whereas New England just marched relentlessly down the field, one first down after another. I found it especially interesting that (for Denver) the running game was so much more reliable than the passing game in converting third and short. Can’t wait to see the comparison between Orton, Simms, and Cutler.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Apr 14, 2009 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
That is why we had so damn many Three and Out’s. It is too bad we can’t put those in context of the game. How many of those failed third downs were in critical situations, when we needed to maintain ball control or need to score late in the game or half. I know this was evaluated elsewhere, but I’m not sure in this detail or in the view of pass v run.
It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09
by firstfan on Apr 15, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orton is wanted
I understand that the system that Orton ran in college (Purdue?) was very similar to what will be expected of him by McDaniels in the new Bronco offense philosophy; maybe you can shed some light on this?
To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also DREAM; not only plan, but also BELIEVE.
by Broncobh on Apr 14, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
Orton followed Drew Brees at Purdue, which ran a shotgun spread offense. Northern Colorado coach Scott Downing, who was an assistant head coach on Joe Tiller’s staff at Purdue at the time said, “He went in and just threw the ball over the place. Nothing could rattle him. He was big guy, a tough kid.”
Former Bronco Niko Koutouvides was there at the time. “He can really sling it,” Koutouvides said. “When I was there, he was always a good teammate, always working out, throwing the 7-on-7, doing the extra stuff to make himself better. I have never heard of anyone having an issue with him as a teammate, even when he was in the NFL.”
The knock on him coming out of college was generally his mechanics, which he has greatly resolved over the past few years. I’ve always been shocked that Chicago took him in the 4th round – not that he wasn’t a 4th round prospect, just that they run the polar opposite approach.Chicago was dependent on a big running game and a ball control, under-center offense with a ‘dominating’ d that has greatly disappeared – they gave up 21.9 pts a game last season, and the Broncos running game had far better stats in nearly every category I’ve seen. In addition, all of his predraft reports that I’ve seen – 3 or 4 – note that he “will need a few years to season and learn the pro position”. So, what happens?
With an injury to Rex Grossman and the cruddy play of Grossman’s backup, Orton was immediately tossed into the league play in 2005, harming his growth even more. Interestingly, his scouting reports claim that he has a very good arm, which TedB confirmed. He doesn’t throw the deep go route well, but very few QBs do. As far a his arm:
In his final regular-season college game, Orton threw for 522 yards (33-of-54 passing) and six touchdowns against Indiana (Nov. 20, 2004). He had 401 yards in the first half. The 522 yards tied a school record (held by Drew Brees).
Obviously, his arm is better than some would have us believe. Small wonder that Chicago was glad to select him in the 4th round (pick 106), but why him and why then, I couldn’t tell you. However, he consistently developed, learned and matured, and is a very good pro QB right now. After a year with McDaniels, he’ll be better still, IMO
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 14, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
To the Bears, Jay-C is Teh Magic
Anyone wishing vengeance on the pouty kid is going to enjoy the watching him on the train wreck of the Bears. Everyone in Chicago focuses on lack of offensive talent, and that’s why they assume the Bears will hit 30 ppg or whatever next year. It’s a form of magical thinking and also a form of willful ignorance on the part of Bears fans. Now they’ve got a QB with a rocket arm and a limited offensive coordination whom Cutler already has a beef with due to his lackluster attempt to recruite Jay-C to UIUC back in ’02.
As it stands, the Bears have a QB who hates hates hates to check down running an offense in which checking down is typically the best thing to do. But he can throw the ball real hard so hey, problem solved!
by Chibronx on Apr 15, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will be awesome Doc!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on Apr 15, 2009 6:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post...
i just couldnt help but pointing out your physics mistake…
“One equation for force is mass times velocity squared (F = M x V²). The increase in mass is one factor. The modern increase in speed is even more of a problem for those on the receiving end of hits.”
velocity squared is for centripital force, so it only counts if defenders swing our rbs in circles
by mast on Apr 14, 2009 9:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Force...
F = M x V² is never the case. When speaking about linear momentum, the closest you can get is F=0.5*m*v^2 if the player stops instantaneously and transfers all his momentum to another player who is not moving prior to the impact.
Even if the equation is incorrect, it is a good measure of the magnitude of forces involved, a player of 100 kg (220 lbs) moving at 8m/s (18 mph) will deliver a force of about 5000 N to a defender who is standing still, that is the same as the force of gravity on an object weighing half a ton. If both players are moving at the same speed in opposite directions the force will double.
by gyldenlove on Apr 15, 2009 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little Perspective
Firstly I am a Patriots fan so let me help shed a little more light on some of the discussion. The Patriots used fourth down significantly more in large part because of Belichick’s field position philosophy. In the ~47-34 yard line just before field goal range Belichick had a simple philosophy, all four downs are used don’t be dumb. Frequently in this territory conservative plays would be utilized full well understanding that no punt would take place. This meant that a third and six was called in such a manner than four would be gotten easily and perhaps a first down but the objective was merely to close the gap not go get it. This is a large part of the overall philosophy of the team. It’s a situational view to everything. So yes YPA are skewed in favor of your team in several places, but it’s due to a wider view of the game.
I expect that while I have yet to see another coach utilize this particular field view that McDaniels is well aware of the advantage it gave the Patriots and will not hesitate to use it. The field location that four down territory is used is small and the other options tend to be only 10-20 yard advantages in field position. Your owner has sense and patience, expect McDaniels to have a decent leash.
On another note one big thing that your statistical analysis doesn’t account for is drive times, play totals and such. The Patriots focus on drive continuance means a shorter play but a longer drive than most teams. I want to say last season the Patriots were head and shoulders above the league in 10+ play drives. Those are key to stepping on the neck of your enemies. Clock killing and defense shifting (resting yours tiring theirs).
by Grachuus on Apr 14, 2009 9:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to have you stop by
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 14, 2009 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a great post overall. I love seeing detail oriented work. So much of the “news” is recycled so you really need some stat analysis and digging to get anything good during the off-season. It’s that or watch some crummy fight between a player/agent and team.
by Grachuus on Apr 14, 2009 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grachuus....thanks so much for the excellent post. Great having you visit. This gives us information that is really pertinent to how Jedi will script the game!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
by boydy2669 on Apr 15, 2009 6:37 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bronco’s fans have a fair amount to be excited about. I think your team will be in the same breath as the top teams within a couple years. The picks you stole from the Bears for Cutler is amazing. Especially considering Cutler was just plain not the QB for the system. You have a great platform to make a splash in the draft. I’ll be watching your team for great things :-)
by Grachuus on Apr 15, 2009 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take
was that the Patriots moreso than the Broncos preferred high-pecentage third down plays over riskier ones that might gain big yardage but might also not pick up the first. A team that marches relentlessly down the field can take the heart out of the other team’s defensive resistance. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your insights. New England’s strategy on third downs in four down territory makes a lot of sense. We think Bowlen will give McDaniels plenty of leeway. That’s his history, to hire the man he thinks is best qualified and then let him do his job.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on Apr 15, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Added later...
We agree on drive times and clock control. Our point here was mostly to look at style – I personally consider the drive times to be an inevitable outcome of the style – including the runs in the middle, attacking the 3-4, using shorter passes with better completion rates, getting the 1t downs rather than going for the hone run, etc. All of that will keep your offense on the field as long as your players know and do their jobs better than the average player, and that was consistently true. As far as anything I saw or our research showed, everything you say is dead on, and I appreciate the added information and perspective. Thanks, Grachuus.
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 15, 2009 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHEN DOES THE SEASON START>>>>>NOW
Excellent, excellent post. If you are a Bronco’s fan..you had better be excited. The main thing I like about McDaniels is the fact that he is all about options. He brings in a boat load of running backs through free agency to add to the already full roster, and to the dismay of the uninformed local and national media he will not divulge his plan or philosophy of how he plans on using any or all of them. Let the Best Men win out!!
I can really see McD using Hillis in a version of the 3 TE set. Hopefully this change in offensive philosophy will improve our dreaded Bronco’s Red Zone Conversion rate.
To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also DREAM; not only plan, but also BELIEVE.
by Broncobh on Apr 14, 2009 9:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Another factor
with McDaniels’s choices in play calling, the choices He makes tend to force the linebackers to think before they react. Hence Kenjutsu, & Aiki. By being unpredictable you make the line backers think before they react instead of playing on instinct this slows them down just enough to be successful in short yardage. Attack the center. This will not show up in any statistics.
TIME OF POSSESSION ! ! !
GO BRONCOS ! ! !
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Apr 15, 2009 1:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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