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Hey everyone, I was doing a bit of research and I came across something interesting. Of the most successful, consistent teams in the NFL, they all have a lot in common. One common factor is defense. All the most successful teams in the NFL have a good to great defense.


My definition of success isn't necessarily how many games the team won because all too often, games turn into shootouts and defense has a minimal role in the winning of the game.
I measure defensive success based on consistency. A team that comes in year after year with a dominant defense most often finds themselves in the playoffs, or at least with a winning record. Examples below.

Star-divide

It should be noted right now that I am only using 2008 NFL teams a reference. I don't feel it's necessary to go further back than the season we just played because so much changes from year to year. The teams of 2007 are hardly what they are now.

Now, for the examples.

Pittsburgh Steelers: 12-4
Baltimore Ravens: 11-5
Carolina Panthers: 12-4
Tennessee Titans: 13-3
New York Giants: 12-4

Now speaking on a 100% defensive standpoint, these teams dominate. My first most obvious common denominator with all these teams is the ability to pressure the quarterback. You can't have a successful defense without being able to put pressure on the quarterback. These 5 teams have a combined 208 sacks. The team with the most in this list of course is Pittsburgh with 51 sacks on the year. So my first point is the teams that put consistent pressure on quarterbacks tend to be winning clubs.

My Next point now, is the middle/inside linebacker position on these teams. Of these 5 teams, the inside/middle linebackers are:
Pit: James Farrior (Pro Bowl)
Bal: Ray Lewis (Pro Bowl)
Car: Jon Beason (Pro Bowl)
Ten: Stephen Tulloch
NYG: Antonio Pierce

So, not much to mention here except that of the 5, 3 of the ILB/MLB were Pro Bowl selections this year. I don't know if it's fair to assume this completely, but it seems to me that a team with a dominant ILB/MLB do very well, even if the rest of the defense is relatively "no name" (Carolina).

Well, my final point is really just an argument here. Denver's sacks last year were 26, ranking us 26th overall as far as sacks go. And we all know how horrid our defense was at stopping the run. We need a strong MLB/ILB that can put pressure on the quarterback, as well as effectively fill gaps and stop the run. I believe that in order for Denver to thrive this next season, they need a playmaker at that position, a guy that can protect his reads, but also adapt quickly to what would be a pass play. Nothing kills me more than seeing teams run or throw right up the gut on us. I can handle it if someone gets a 5 or 6 yard run by running around the pile, but to give up yards by simply letting them get through the creases can't happen anymore. The key to Denver's defensive success is in the ILB/MLB position.
We've already established the fact that our defensive backs can and will stop your team from throwing the deep ball. Now, we need someone to stop the short throws up the middle, and to also get in the quarterbacks face when we need it.

The Lombardi trophy is in the eyes of the nasty blitzing defense. Rey Maualuga is that man. Just watch this clip and tell me that's not the guy that should be our ILB/MLB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp1dUZUMXxc

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amen brother

That’s why I have two mlb’s in my mock draft with maualuga @ #12. Our defense hasn’t been the same since the al wilson day’s and frankly, I’m not thrilled with DJ williams in the middle of our new 3-4

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by Idaho Nate on Apr 14, 2009 1:53 PM MDT reply actions  

I like DJ Williams

but not as an MLB. I’d rather seem him as an outside linebacker on the weak side, if anything.

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Apr 14, 2009 1:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for posting that youtube video

you helped out my case for why we should not draft Maualuga. Over peruses on a lot of runs, awful form tackling, missing a lot of tackles. i just see a decent football player benefiting from the good team around him. The only reason why some of you guys like him because of his size and speed, and agressiveness. He is too agressive(sounds dumb but its not). The play at 4:45 is on a highlight reel, my god i see nothing special.

We need an ILB as a face for this defense, i like Cushing here much better, hes not as showy with a lot of huge hits but he consistently gets the job done and is a total team player.

"My age is getting up there, but that doesn't mean my play has to diminish,"-Brian Dawkins

by BDAWKisaBRONC on Apr 14, 2009 2:03 PM MDT reply actions  

We can get Jasper Brinkley in the 5th...he will be the steal of the draft....and allows us to go playmaker in 1st with both our picks..

I am a USC fan and I have BIG doubts about Rey Rey! Hope I am wrong if we pick him.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Definitely a steal

This kid Jasper looks to have great instincts, good call boydy.

by bchiper on Apr 14, 2009 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'd have to agree with BDawk

Rey is a very aggressive player no doubt, but I think Cushing is a better all around linebacker who is game smart. That is one of the things that has made Ray Lewis so great, he knows the game and plays smart. Al Wilson also played the game smart. within his aggresive nature. I don’t believe Maualuga plays that smart, he just plays aggressive. Would I be upset if we picked up, probably not. But, he might be more work than he’s worth.

by bchiper on Apr 14, 2009 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

Agree with Boydy

i love Brinkley and McKillop as possibe third or fourth round targets. Brinkley wont drop to the fifth tho.

"My age is getting up there, but that doesn't mean my play has to diminish,"-Brian Dawkins

by BDAWKisaBRONC on Apr 14, 2009 2:17 PM MDT reply actions  

no no rey rey

I would rather pass on Rey. I don’t want a 1st round defensive leader that had to have other linebackers assigned to him on the road to keep him out of trouble. The first round pck has to be squeaky clean imho. We don’t need any character issues.

by mauibroncofan on Apr 14, 2009 2:22 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Good point MBF.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

So why bother with Raji then?

Allegedly.

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Apr 14, 2009 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who are the Broncos on defense?

Rey gives the Broncs something they sorely lack; an intimidating presence in the middle. Rey has his flaws but the same flaws were pointed out when Al Wilson was drafted and he turned out great. NFL coaches will improve his football savvy but his desire, size and thumping power can’t be taught. There has to be some reason he is highly regarded as the best MLB in the draft other than playing at USC.

Moreno & Maualuga in '09!

by Steve O' on Apr 14, 2009 2:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Its not exactly the same...

Al was always an benificial leader at Tennesee. Rey has had character concerns his whole college career and has had to be babysitted by other players.
When we are building a high character team, why take the risk at a position where there are others with no character concerns that can do a good job.
With regards to Raji, the over riding need for NT WAY over rides the need at ILB…just my opinion.
But who knows, under the leadership of Dawkins, Raji and Rey may both be fine.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Question
Al was always an benificial leader at Tennesee. Rey has had character concerns his whole college career and has had to be babysitted by other players.

Do we have confirmation on this. I’ve heard the rumor about babysitting, but never a confirmed source. As far as his whole college career, I recall a couple of fights early on and then a clean record. Did I just miss that? You know how I am about unconfirmed rumors…dime a dozen

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Apr 14, 2009 2:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I will find the source....sorry....story......

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

It was in the latest article by TB...

Here is the link:
http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/4/13/831898/shallow-thoughts-nearsighted
I am sure TB has the source, but I have never doubted him before.
I do agree with Steve O. Everyone deserves a chance and apparently he is a changed man since the death of his father. I hope so.
If he has a horse on his helmet I will support him 100% like I did when he was at USC.
Thanks guys!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not at all

I just like to confirm things. It’s the time of year where men’s reputations are being shredded on the flimsiest of whims, but I’ll ask Ted – he isn’t one to use things lightly.

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Apr 14, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree.....

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

BTW

Ted passed this on:

The information about Maualuga came from Nolan Nawrocki of PFW,who I would say has about the highest credibility of in-print draft analysts. The way he stated it, it sounded like he understood it to be a fact. Here is the link http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi040109a.htm
 
Nolan doesn’t particularly care for Maualuga as a prospect (nor do I,) but I have never considered him to be much of an axe-grinder. Maualuga’s immaturity was evident in his episode with Erin Andrews just a few months ago, and given that, and the credibility which I perceive Nawrocki to have, I felt fine with repeating what I had read.

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Apr 14, 2009 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Doc...

TB is pretty on it, so I believe his take on this.
I have seen Rey interviewed and hes not impressive…but everyone needs a second chance so I DO wish him all the luck in the world!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Boydy...

You may or may not be right…I don’t know. Here is what I see…

The Broncos need a QB on defense…a MLB for the next generation of Bronco football. Is Rey that guy? I don’t know but out of what I see he could be. He adds a dimension that we currenty lack. I can recall for years being soft in the middle, well one thing Rey isn’t is soft. Does he have natural leadership abilities…again I don’t know but the MLB position by nature is one of leadership, USC had a lot good players on it so maybe Rey wasn’t the guy calling plays and putting guys in check or maybe he was…you would know better than I.

As far as the debate about whether MLB or even LB in general is important enough to use our first pick on it, well I agree that is debatable. I am sure you can find a MLB later on in the draft, say round 3 that wouldn’t be that big of a drop off from Rey or Cushing or any LB.

If you want to groom a defense or any group for that matter, you need to identify your leader. Right now due to respect and talent B. Dawkins is our leader. Kind of ironic that he has never played a snap as a Denver Bronco but it is what is. In three years who is our defensive captain? Doom? DJ (we already know he doesn’t like that role) – I think the most pressing issue for the Broncos is this…Who do we want to become on defense and who can immediately help us get there. Denver has lacked size, strength and attitude on defense. We need some nasty dude running around hitting people and making a statement, that is why I endorse Rey.

I can show you FootballOutsiders articles that show that teams who get a LB in the first round see great rewards in the defense the second year. They go from the bottom to the middle quickly. A DT is needed but as you are well aware they take years to groom so there is no immediate impact. That doesn’t mean that we ignore DT, we don’t as there are plenty of great options after 12 or 18.

As far as character…these are kids, I can forgive a few transgressions as long as the player shows he maturing. I ask him tough questions and get straight answers or no dice.

Moreno & Maualuga in '09!

by Steve O' on Apr 14, 2009 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey Steve O all valid points....

I am not sold on him.
I HOPE I am wrong….I do…..I want all my trojans to be success storys.
I feel like there are some really great LB’s coming out next year, and that there is not a huge drop off from 1st to 4th round with this group this year.
I am a value for the pick type guy I guess, and it si just my opinion, but I feel we can get better value at LB further into the draft.
We need an NT…we can get by with Fields…in fact, I hope he is a star, but do not get a NT this year then maybe we put ourslevs behind the 8 ba;ll for a couple of more years than we should be.
Great points man and good post.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

re Raji

If Raji did have a + test at the combine (I don’t know if that counts as a first strike for Goodell or not) and he had one in college, I would take him off my board for the first round. Yes, exceptions ie Sapp occur, but you can’t take a chance. One of the problems we had in the later Shanny years was a relaxation in personal standards and we lost the strong leadership that we had in the SB years. I think one of the first things MacD has to recapture is that leadership and character. We need a strong team with good character, not just individual athletes. Parcells was and is great about removing any character issue people from his board. Jerry Jones is not. Look what happened to Dallas when Jones took control and what happened to Miami.

by mauibroncofan on Apr 14, 2009 2:37 PM MDT reply actions  

good point.

McDaniels came from the Belichic system, and from what I’ve seen, they don’t handle troublemakers either. I think with Dawkins, Champ, and Mike Nolan mentoring a guy like Maualuga, he could be great in this league. I strongly believe that.

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Apr 14, 2009 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would be very tight on my choices

There are a lot of great athletes out there that are high char. Why take a chance with anyone. That is one of the things that knocked Marshall down. Yes, he is great but we got him where we should have, in the 4th not 1st. Let’s get players that lift the people around them to greater heights, not ones that need the people around them babysitting them or mentoring them. Let Dawkins, Champ Nolan teach, not keep someone out of trouble.

by mauibroncofan on Apr 14, 2009 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

well every single rookie that comes in to the league

needs mentors. to say Rey will need one and others will not is unfair.

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Apr 14, 2009 2:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's a big if, Maui

Right now, that’s yet another unconfirmed rumor without source, claiming something that no one can know. Arrgghhhh……
If it turns out to be true (and we’ll know within a week), that’s fine – it’s a huge black mark. But dang it, folks – repeating there unconfirmed rumors is just crazy. Let’s stick to facts, shall we?

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Apr 14, 2009 5:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

sorry, your are right bronco, but it is one of those rumors I read so much I start to believe it

You are absolutely right that everything should be proven and documented especially when it is possible slander against someones character. This is one of the problems we have doing mock drafts and our own boards—we can’t always get the accurate info. Neither can the team eg the hacking into the myspace sites etc. Character just becomes so important in this game. I do retract what I say about Rey’s character here but on my own personal board from what I have read I would not take him high in the first round.

by mauibroncofan on Apr 14, 2009 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

No problem

I did some reading on the hows and whys of the drug tests. No one could have had that information. The teams will receive it in the next few days somewhere – I don’t have that date at hand – but until then, no one has it but, possibly, him, and his agent is denouncing the rumor. Of course, he’s an agent, but no one else can know.

This year was worse than many, with Matthews, Cushing, Rey, Raji and a long host of others all accused. If they are guilty of it, I wouldn’t draft them either, but I just admit – I get uncomfortable with the public flaying of people, done facelessly and without concern. So far I haven’t heard one off these shown to be true, and that’s a poor record.

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Apr 14, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

You knew rumors would surround Cushing....which is unfair....

He has never tested positive to steroids.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 14, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

on rereading I misanswered

The if for Raji is great. He has to be proven to be positive at the combine to take him off my board and you are right, we should know in a week or so. If there is no confirmation Raji is my choice at 8-12. Maualuga, on the other hand, has some real leadership questions. If a great coach like Carrol had to protect him on the road I would not want him as my signature MLB. Character and leadership are hard to define. The team seemed to play much better last year with Woodyard and Larson in the lineup. I was not that impressed with our captains last year, Cutler and DJ. I think MacD has already started to address that issue and I doubt that you see anyone drafted early that does not have a clean reputation. We all get hung up on 40 times etc but if one individual can increase 10 others 40 time game speed by 0.1 sec that is much more important and that is the anticipation time that a good leader can help them with. I just don’t think Rey can give that and that is just my opinion.

by mauibroncofan on Apr 14, 2009 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

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by orangeblood on Apr 14, 2009 2:42 PM MDT reply actions  

This is how I would like to see the first round go
  1. and #74 pick (1st 3rd round pick) to Jacksonville for the #8 for B.J Raji
  1. Knowshon Moreno

I believe we already have the two ILBs (D.J and Andra Davis)

by CombatChuk on Apr 14, 2009 3:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Steve - a question

Do you think that in their second year a player can be a leader? I’m asking this because one of my favorite guys – Spencer Larsen – is a second year fellow at ILB. Larsen has a long history of being a leader and did so well in college. Between Davis and Larsen, we might have that presence at the LB position that you seek.

Last year, one of the p0layers noted that a rookie just can’t be a true leader. Maybe, maybe not, but – fine. If it’s true, Rey won’t be, this year. And, Larsen is a year older professionally and three older chronologically (2 years Mormon mission). He has the maturity – what do you think?

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Apr 14, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

The short answer....yes absolutely

Leadership on the field comes from two things…being assertive and being good enough to command the respect of the other players. Larson could very well be the leader that we all are looking for but his level of play may need to step up. Let’s be honest, if you are missing assignments all the time and getting beat like rug, then you probably aren’t going to be able to tell other guys what to do.

As far as Rey, we need to start somewhere so to speak. In my research, I have found that bad defensive teams have shown the most improvement over a couple seasons by taking a LB.

Rey may not be all he is cracked up to be, he may be overrated, he may not even be necessary BUT, he adds two things we sorely lack…size in the middle and an intimidating presence.

Moreno & Maualuga in '09!

by Steve O' on Apr 15, 2009 5:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

We need Rey

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you just stated Steve O , we all need to remember what happened to our defense when we lost Al Wilson—it has gone downhill fast ever since.
Look at what happened to the chargers defense last year when they lost Merriman, the defense lost their identity and they were very lucky to have an 8-8 record.

We need an identity and an intimidating presence in the middle and imo, Rey would fill that need for years to come. (hopefully)

by okiebroncosfan on Apr 15, 2009 6:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agree and Rec'd!

If we have the opportunity to get Rey and we pass that up, we will be talking about that regret for the next 10 years…

The dude abides.

by Kribbles on Apr 15, 2009 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rey is no where near

as good of a player as Al Wilson or Merriman. Al also had the mental side which Rey Rey does not have according to a ton of reports that have been coming out.

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 15, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

the same reports that had

guys like Peyton Hillis potentially not being drafted. Or maybe the reports that said Terrell Davis was a draft bust…

Or was it the reports that said Tommy Maddox would be John Elways successor?

My point is this: Don’t rely so much on what people are saying about a player. No one really knows how a player will fare in the NFL, not even the players themselves. A guy like Maualuga has the intensity that we do not have. period.

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Apr 15, 2009 1:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with Bear on Larsen.

I don’t think we are weak at ILB. With DJ, Davis, and Larson – I think there other holes that need to be address first. Larson was a leader on the field at mlb. Although at that time most of the other guys on the field were back ups as well. But that is when we were winning games and our D looked good.

I think Larsen has it in him to be a great leader of a young D. And with Dawkins doing his thing I think it would let Larsen grow into the role. Have we forgotten how well the D rookies played last year?

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by YellowStoneBronco on Apr 16, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

No, I haven't forgotten how well the rookies played last year...

Larsen may be good, but he couldn’t beat out Nate Webster! In his second season he just may be the starting linebacker but you can bet he will have some good competition for the job.

HT sold me last season. Him and I were having a discussion and he said something that I stand by. We are/were painfully weak up the middle of the defense. DT, MLB, SAF. The edges of our defense are better than the interior. I like our speed rushers and their potential. Moss is crazy fast for his size and I think he will florish. When he doesn’t need to address a direct point of attack , like he would having to playing a traditional DE spot in a 4-3. He will be stronger, Doom, DJ, WW, Boss – we have outside edge rushers. I also like Nic Clemons or Kenny Peterson at DE with Thomas at the other.

So we need to up the competition level at DT, MLB and SAF, that’s what needs help and that is what is hopefully going to be addressed…
Round 1 – MLB (REY)
Round 2 – DT (Brace, Hood, ETC)
Round 3 – SAF (Rashad Johnson, D. Byrd, ETC)
Round 3 – D-Line (End or Tackle)
Then later in the draft pick up some projects to work with Champ and Dawkins and Davis and learn to be a pro.

Moreno & Maualuga in '09!

by Steve O' on Apr 16, 2009 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it had more to SHanny and Slowik catering to their veterans with their Club Med mentality than Larson not beating out Webster..

Seriuosly, anyone think that Webster and Winborn should have been put in the team at the expense of Larsen and WW? Hello? Anybody???
This was part of the probelem for the last 5 years. Shanny played the vets REAGRDLESS if the rookies were playing better!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 17, 2009 7:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

It's Always a Gamble

The draft is always a gamble for success and I don’t see the need to take two chances, ability to play at this level and character, instead of one. At these high spots there are plenty of chances to find guys who have both.

by Kfustud on Apr 14, 2009 3:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Great Discussion People

I am Pro Rey Rey, But there are many valid points here. I definitely think that we absolutely MUST have a replacement for Al Wilson’s shoes.

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by KaptainKirk on Apr 15, 2009 6:11 PM MDT reply actions  

As many of you know I try to remain positive...

Last year I was estatic to see our team place character as a priority in the draft. It was the most refreshing draft I’ve experienced in years.
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Keep in mind that for many days I thought Maualuga was a perfect solution and a great pick…in fact he was my choice at #12.
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However, in the last couple weeks I have read about too many questions adressing his character. Even a leader, when suddenley given access to a bunch of money, sometimes has troubles ajusting. If that leader has character issues—that spells trouble.
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In my humble opinion—I think we should look elsewhere.

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by Mike Clark on Apr 15, 2009 6:27 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Rey Maulaluga is not an Al Wilson

If anything they are the opposites. Rey has misses tackles, uses his size to make plays and has maturity issues. Wilson was a consistant tackler who could play on THIRD DOWN, who used his intelligence and speed to make plays. Wilson was a leader with Peyton Manning at Tennessee and took up the same position with Broncos. Between the Video of him Dancing and the newspaper article give this guy a couple million and it will be a disaster.

by maritimebronco on Apr 15, 2009 6:28 PM MDT reply actions  

Granted

I DO agree that
a. Character
b. Intelligence
and c. a dominating presence
is needed at that position. I like Laurenitis also, but does he fit our scheme?

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Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season

by KaptainKirk on Apr 15, 2009 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

He CAN fit it

don’t get caught up in the “ideal” argument that you will hear. He is a first round talent. he can fit any scheme. What he has though, is a ton of experience in the 4-3, and a non-prototype build for an ILB. (less than 260lbs). but if you look around the league about 70% of ILBs, including some damn good ones, aren’t “prototypes” either. Basically, in a less skilled athlete, the measureables are nice insurance, a sort of “minimum performance guarantee”.

If the Broncos coaches dcide tehy want Laurinaitis, I would not begrudge them that decision, despite his less than “ideal” fit. He is a very good player.

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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 15, 2009 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

OK

He has intelligence and he has played in a good conference. I know he can play, and I think he would fit in the character mold as well. All these things are assets. I DO think he is a little on the small side, but will concede that his “blue collar” work ethic might be a big enough difference. If so, then yes, he would be a good fit ala AL Wilson.

My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season

by KaptainKirk on Apr 15, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

So right on, that it aint funny...

…and where have the DBroncos been in the last three (or more) years?

We need the obvious… The old orage crush attitude!!!

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by metalman5050 on Apr 15, 2009 11:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Two Thoughts...

1) On Raji: I can tell you from professional training and experience that a guy with B.J. Raji’s physical make up, he could test positive for a joint smoked as long as a year ago. Marijuana is fat soluable and does not clear the body nearly as quickly as was even recently believed. People getting around marijuana tests usually benefit from very weak tests, unspoken internal policies to ignore marijuana positives, and/or the age old practice of actually testing 1 out of 25 samples.

2) On MLB’s: I think the list linking good MLB’s with dominant defenses raises the compelling ‘is it the chicken or the egg that was first’ argument. I think in most cases its a solid surrounding cast that makes a MLB look good rather than vise-versa in most cases. I think the 2007 Broncos proved that you could have a super productive player there (Williams had almost 150 tackles) and still be bad. I’ve obviously made a case for Lauranaitis in the past— so I don’t undervalue the position— but I think Lauranaitis is a better leadership candidate than Maualuga. You got to tackle at all before you start worrying about making YouTube You have to do things right before you worry about how cool you look doing it. This team, if it goes ILB in the first round, needs a role model before it needs a rock star. Maualuga, in my opinion, can elevate certain defenses in ways a Top 10 pick is expected too. I just don’t think he fits this early in a rebuilding process.

by PredominantlyOrange on Apr 17, 2009 8:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Lauranitis is a straight up rap a guy up tackler. However the trouble with him is he’s not the strongest and doesn’t shed blockers real well! This is a worry because an inside linebacker in a 3-4 in the NFL can get washed underneath 300+ Ib offensive linemen!

I agree that Maualuga, can elevate certain defenses in ways a Top 10 pick is expected too but I feel instilling the aggression he will bring to the defense along with Dawkins, Reid and hopefully Raji is just what you need to instill this early in the rebuilding process.

Also regarding the character issues if they don’ center around drugs or major crime I think we should just put it down to adolescence, which we have all been through.

by RafaTheRed on Apr 17, 2009 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

And Reyrey

has been decidedly different since his dad died. he got serious. Real serious.

Hands down he is the one guy in this list that I wouldn’t want to have out to get me…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 17, 2009 7:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

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