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Horse Tracks 4/15/09

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If any of you can get through all the '09 schedule articles without puking, you get a gold star. Seriously, there's a million of them. Enjoy!

DB - If you haven't seen it, the Broncos' 2009 schedule has been released.

NFL - Pat Bowlen offered some comments on Josh McDaniels and the team's direction, Rod Smith and the Cutler trade. Bowlen and Shannon Sharpe spoke at Rod's induction to the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame.

DP - Jones and Klis examine the Broncos' schedule, which features a soft start, a brutal center and an AFC West-heavy end.

DP - McDaniels comments on that AFC West portion of the skedder. Meanwhile, the Broncos' first official mini-camp begins on Friday.

DP - Krieger foresees a 5-win season for Denver.

DP - Armstrong the remaining Broncos players envy Cutler and his rebellion.

NFL - Here is NFL.com's breakdown of the Broncos' ledger.

IN - Another schedule rehash from INDenver.

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SFC - Here's David White's look at the Raiders' schedule.

SFG - In a solid collection of notes, White believes the Raiders are targeting four players at #7 - WRs Michael Crabtree and Jeremy Maclin, LT Andre Smith and DT B.J. Raji.

KCS - Adam Teicher breaks down the Chefs' schedule.

NFP - Matt Bowen thinks a Tony Gonzalez-trade to Atlanta would make sense.

SDUT - You'll NEVER guess what Kevin Acee writes about. Never. Oh, and here's another breakdown by Acee.

ESPN - Pork Chop chews on all the AFC West schedules.

Y! - Reports are pointing toward a trade of WR Braylon Edwards from the Browns to the Giants, with former Broncos WR Domenik Hixon possibly heading to Cleveland.

NFLN - If you want the '09 schedule coming out of your ears, there are plenty of video clips for you to watch from the Network.

Y! - Travis Henry is facing a sentence of 10 years to life in prison plus a $4 million fine if a judge accepts the plea deal he agreed to with federal prosecutors.

Y! - The dispute between Comcast and the NFL Network will be heard by an administrative law judge this week.

NFL - Bucky Brooks thinks strength-of-schedule is a bit overemphasized.

NFL - Vic Carucci thinks Jay Cutler and all of his chins are the marquee story of the '09 season as viewed by the schedule makers. Okay, the chins reference is mine, not Carucci's.

Y! - Mike Silver wasn't all that excited for the schedule release. He also takes some heat for citing Tulane as Cutler's alma mater. Oops.

SI - Don Banks offers his thoughts on the '09 schedule.

CBS - Pete Prisco finds 10 games he's looking forward to, while Clark Judge lists 10 games he's dreading, including two Broncos games!

FOX - John Czarnecki rates teams for their 2003-2008 draft classes.

SI - Peter King profiled new NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith and answered some emails in his Tuesday column.

NFP - Wes Bunting looks at some late risers for the draft.

NFP - Jack Bechta describes the player agent's role in the draft process.

NFL - Alabama's news-making OT Andre Smith has filed paperwork to fire his agent. So, it was all his fault!

Y! - Former Duke hoopster and star high-school QB Greg Paulus worked out for the Packers last week.

NFP - Matt Bowen measures the Ravens' offseason.

FOX - FOX puts the Dolphins On the Clock.

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Thanks NYC...

JC: More chins than a chinese phone book! (Just joking everyone!)
Do we have to include Kreiger and Armstrong here???? I know we do…but man…..almost makes me miss Bernie Lincicome!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 15, 2009 6:40 AM MDT reply actions  

Seriously, about Kreiger?

Let me preface this by saying I used to write sports for our college paper, covering football and men’s hoop even though I wasn’t even a journalism major. So I have a little bit of a background in the business.

Kreiger is far and away the best sports columnist in this town. His columns are coherent, interesting, and often present viewpoints that go much deeper than mere wordplay. And his takes are usually spot on, unlike Kiszla, Woody, and the completely unreadable Lincicome. This blog is funny. I saw another post lauding the efforts of Kiszla after he wrote a negative Cutler column. Now, suddenly, the best sports columnist in Denver sucks because he is predicting 5-11?

I think 5-11 for this team, with this coach and their current QB situation, is realistic. Maybe in 3 or 4 years we will be able to look back at the Cutler fiasco and say the Broncos came out ahead. My guess is that we won’t be saying that by the time this season is over.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 15, 2009 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Mornin, nyc, Thanks for bring us Horse Tracks...

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Apr 15, 2009 6:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Armstrong:

Did he actually talk to any players, get any quotes? I find the whole premise ridiculous that all of the players would high five Cutler because of some secret vendetta against the FO.

I’ll say this again, I have yet to hear a player say more than the situation was disappointing. Apparently they’re not sad that Cutler is gone, they aren’t going to miss him; I think that speaks volumes by itself. Caveat: If there have been quotes from current Broncos who say that they loved Jay and will miss him, I’m sorry. I just haven’t read any.

We don't devote nearly enough scientific research to finding a cure for jerks. - Calvin

by solace on Apr 15, 2009 6:55 AM MDT reply actions  

Could not agree more solace...

that article bugged me for the reasons you cited. Come on, Armstrong, earn your check and write something substantive.

Beware the wrath of a patient adversary.

John C. Calhoun --

by bcfunk on Apr 15, 2009 6:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have said this before...

It is interesting that there was more uproar when Mike Leech left than when Cutler left!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 15, 2009 7:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great point!

Beware the wrath of a patient adversary.

John C. Calhoun --

by bcfunk on Apr 15, 2009 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Leech was a surprise

nobody saw Leech getting cut. We had enough time before the cutler trade to understand what was going on and maybe even accept it.

by trumanj on Apr 15, 2009 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Loathe him or loathe him, at least Woody tries to do something different

Between Armstrong, Kriefer and Kiszla, the Post has locked up the Mountain Region’s finest bland, fence-sitting, pox-on-both-your-houses, stick-a-finger-in-the-wind middle age white dudes. And now we don’t even have Krieger’s hilarious file photo from Rocky to laugh at. For shame, for shame.

Bernie Lincicome and Woody aren’t my favorite guys, and their word play ranges from annoying to infuriating, but at least they do something other than tut-tut whatever’s in sight.

by Chibronx on Apr 15, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

re: interviewing players

No, that would take too much time. Sports journalism is best done when you merely imagine what people would do and write about that. Actual journalism left the sports field long ago, when papers starting going out of business and consolidating in the 80s. They’re not ‘new articles,’ they’re opinion columns. There’s no pretense of reporting anything other than what goes on in the columnist’s head. It’s like blogging only it pays better.

by Colinski on Apr 15, 2009 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was going to respond to that, 'Ski

But I was busy imagining a conversation with you instead, which gave me all the quotes that I need for an article on the decision theory of UFOs and their relationship to the Denver Broncos. Details at 11….

Kreiger used to be a pretty good read. He lost me when he started substituting insults and bizarre metaphors for actual intelligent prose. I didn’t bother reading his predictions because I just don’t care what he thinks

Hillis in '09

by Doc Bear on Apr 15, 2009 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Media is going to pummel the Broncos until they start winning

Last night Jamie Dukes and Solomon Wilcots on NFLN pounded the Broncos and cheered the Bears every chance they could. The guys like Armstrong and Krieger (10 straight losses!) are going to fire away relentlessly. We just need to get used to it. Until the games start, we will not know whether the moves the Broncos made will work out. I am very optimistic about 2010 and think the Broncos can be in the mix for a playoff spot in 2009.

Where is Mr. Doom and Gloom, Kizla, by the way?

Keep Moving Forward.

by ColoradoOwl on Apr 15, 2009 7:06 AM MDT reply actions  

He has been at a charity benefit

He’s auctioning off the shanny doll that he used to stick pins in, voodoo style. I hear he has a new doll…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 15, 2009 7:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I know

I had to turn that off because it was making me pukey. There are so many people who just see: “Jay Cutler is gone,” therefore the Broncos will stink. Last I checked, they have a big roster full of talented people — the great OL (which is a key to success) is intact, RB is deep for a change, the receivers are still good, the defense is getting better (and presumably will be even better after the draft). QB will be weaker but both guys are good enough to get it done. Don’t get me wrong, it will be a hard schedule and with all the changes they could very well be a .500 or below team. But there’s some real ignorance about the team that I would like to see proven wrong. But, yeah, they can’t do anything about perception til the season starts.

by underdog on Apr 15, 2009 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is normal for me

The Broncos never get a lot of love from the media to begin with and now that Cutler is gone, they won’t stop. I am used to it and never really give the media’s opinion too much weight anyways.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

by weazel on Apr 15, 2009 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Armstrongs point isn't what it appears to be

the headline makes it sound like he is implying that the locker room is divisive and against McDaniels at this stage, but the message armstrong tries to get across (He is sourcing Jim Rome here, to some extent, and Rome makes his name and living by being in contact with sports personalities. He might not have interviewed a number of players, but it wouldn’t surprise to me if he has talked to some people off the record. ) is that the locker room has perennially been about “me first players” more interested in cashing their check than playing for the Broncos. In saying that they are “envious” of Cutler, he is surmising that the locker room still has some issues to get over, some bad ideas to flush.

He might be right. Losing does that to players, and to some degree they might implicitly prioritize their chance to make their paycheck and support their families and lifestyles (and both are worthwhile endeavors) rather than sacrifice themselves to some mantra that gains them nothing. Its hard to be about “team” when the team can’t win.

IF (and remember, this is just speculation, and of the worst sort, too: psychological speculation) the players truly do feel a pang of jealousy that Cutler is moving on, or got what he wanted from an unwilling front office (and who got what they wanted is debatable at this point) then I certainly think they are entitled to it, in some degree. Not at the cost of moving forward, but when the struggles have been so dire (especially for many of our young, maligned defensive players) hope gets confused with change. Call it the “Grass is Greeener” syndrome.

Back to Armstrong. He is saying that McDaniel’s highest priority right now is creating something that gets all the players on the same page. He isn’t bashing McDaniels (though his tone is typically Armstrongian), he is bashing the players, and by proxy, the former regime that alienated team at the expense of a win at all costs (and the cost was indeed high) mantra. Our holdover players are all products of a dysfunctional program that consisted of a lot of bluster and fury, but was ultimately ineffective; ineffective at adjusting, ineffective at converting in the redzone, ineffective at winning. It was a system that had broken down and survived on words, not actions; yards, not points.

The following choice of words by Armstong is key, but I hesitate to call them intentional. I have no doubt he kows where they came from, but his use of them isn’t completely conducive to his point:

In a perfect world, players would run through the proverbial wall for their coach. That’s the kind of attitude McDaniels has to instill in his players.

Armstrong has para-phrased the immortal (if progeny is any indication) words of none other than Travis Henry, referring to Shanny’s “player-personnel” system for gaining undying loyalty. Shanny backed Henry 100 percent in drug related charges, and got Henry’s undying loyalty for his efforts. And there is the rub.

I think McDaniels is already way ahead of Shanahan in the category of player loyalty, if for no other reason than that he hasn’t put the cart before the horse. FIRST you get players who have the character to reciprocate, implicitly and explicitly, the concept of loyalty. THEN you can worry about inspiring that loyalty. Shanahan got the order reversed, and his personnel history is a black ledger filled with red marks, where he got guys that no one else would take in an effort to start with undying loyalty. Unfortunately, there was a reason no one would take most of those players.

I agree with Armstrong to the extent that creating a new program of “Broncos football” that players buy into wholeheartedly will be his toughest challenge.

I disagree with Armstorng in that I think McDaniels is already halfway there.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 15, 2009 8:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Fair points Styg....I thought the article painted a negative picture....

But I can see how you could comprehend the article the way you are laying it out. I just find with Armstrong that when finishing one of his articles I am more confused than when I started reading it….for me, he meanders along skirting points and not making them…..but then I have the IQ of a common house brick!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 15, 2009 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

Quote from Boydy “I just find with Armstrong that when finishing one of his articles I am more confused than when I started reading it”

I think we are all dumber for having read the article.

Then Styg gets involved and things suddenly start to make sense. I vote that Styg replaces Armstrong immediately on the DP staff!!

We don't devote nearly enough scientific research to finding a cure for jerks. - Calvin

by solace on Apr 15, 2009 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

He speculated on the players psychological states

which is tenuous ground, at best. I had to read the article twice, because like you, the first time through he made me think he had contradicted himself.

I don’t know if he intentionally para-phrased Travis Henry or not, but that was the part that threw me a little, and made me go back and reread the article. Either Armstrong’s subconscious was working faster than he was (a common thing for writers), or he was planning on comparing McDaniels to Shanny. I think it was the former, because the latter would have had a much more concise, less rambling, less confusing introduction.

If you read enough of any writer, you start to figure out HOW they write. They best writer qua writer, IMO, on the Post is Mark Kiszla. I wish he had better premises, but his writing is very clear, concise and leaves nothing to chance. Woodrow is the second best (I have no opinion of Krieger) and he can be concise when he wants to be. He is a classic case of the “Writing rebel” who breaks as many grammar rules as he can and still remain (somewhat) legible. I’m ok with that in so far as he is creatinga personality to go with the words. Although “class-clown” (and some people would leave off the “cl” in class) isn’t very substantive, its his choice and he is consistent. Armstrong is the James Joyce of the post, writing everything in choppy “”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_(narrative_mode)" target="new">stream of consciousness" mode. His in season “notes” column is very typical of this style, very loose with shifting focus, and no warning. Sometimes you can’t tell he is talking about something different. You’ll be digesting his thoughts on Prater’s accuracy only to see the name Milan Hejduk, and realize he switched and is talking about something else.

This is why I lead towards an “unintentional” use of the Henry quote. I think he was writing as it came to him, based on some vague thoughts after a comment from Rome. That it came around to a point (well, half a point) is a testament to his experience. But I have always disliked his style, and the confusion around this article is why.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 15, 2009 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

I don’t see how Cutler getting traded to the Bears can be equated to Cutler having leverage over the front office. To me, it seems McDaniels called Cutler’s bluff, but…. Oh, man… I’m done. I told myself I’d stop talking about it. Sorry! Great comment, Styg. I see your point that the headline and the substance don’t jive.

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Apr 15, 2009 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Summed Up Perfectly

“Our holdover players are all products of a dysfunctional program that consisted of a lot of bluster and fury, but was ultimately ineffective; ineffective at adjusting, ineffective at converting in the redzone, ineffective at winning. It was a system that had broken down and survived on words, not actions; yards, not points.” styg50

Damn Right. All the stats that people talk about with respect to our offense last year mean nothing. Did we win? Did we score when we needed to?

by T.Dot_Bronco on Apr 15, 2009 11:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

The draft...

can’t come fast enough for me. Get here already!

Why? It gives us something new to focus on, and hopefully something that gives us… well, hope. A good draft may also get people off the Broncos backs a bit.

But I also have to say I don’t mind “experts” predicting a tough season for the Broncos, I would rather them sneak up on people than be a disappointment, which they were for most of the past 5 seasons.

by underdog on Apr 15, 2009 9:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Aaron Curry

If his stock is indeed falling a little bit, not based on him personally as much as on the position he plays, as this article seems to imply…
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/11630138
…I wonder if there’s any way the Broncos could trade up just a bit to nab him. Despite what it says about the 3-4 and Curry in that article, I still think he’d be a terrific addition to the D.

by underdog on Apr 15, 2009 9:53 AM MDT reply actions  

Normally I like Kreiger...

But that article was literally worthless.

If you think the Broncos will go 5-11, that’s fine, but give actual REASONS why you think it will happen for each game, instead of writing little blurbs wherin you try and fail miserably to be funny.

For crying out loud, he’s a paid sportswriter. I could have written a higher quality article than that about the schedule.

by Shoemaker on Apr 15, 2009 10:17 AM MDT reply actions  

To be fair, it wasn’t one of Krieger’s better columns. Sounded more like something Woody would write. Must have been pushing up on a deadline. But I can’t disagree with 5-11 being a realistic expectation.

MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.

by Bob in Boulder on Apr 15, 2009 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with expecting that kind of record.

Even if I have a more optimistic outlook.

My problem is that he didn’t provide any actual reasons why he thought we would lose 11 games. No talent evaluation, no examination of key matchups; all he did was take last year’s team minus Jay Cutler and compare it to last year’s power rankings. And threw in an unfunny quip for good measure.

That doesn’t count as journalism.

by Shoemaker on Apr 15, 2009 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Jim Armstrong

My problem with Jim A is that I find his articles to be very uninformative. Maybe it is because his current pieces are so short, but I am an English teacher and would count off his writing for lacking depth. Any opinion might be fine, but put something behind it to support. I like the James Joyce reference earlier. I’m not really a fan of Joyce either so there ya go.

by BroncoJeff on Apr 15, 2009 10:51 AM MDT reply actions  

Jim Armstrong article Comments

What I find more annoying than the article itself is the comments you read below it. I guess if you ever want to know why someone who writes something without much real thought has lots of fans its because they are not thinking either.

by Kfustud on Apr 15, 2009 10:59 AM MDT reply actions  

Which is why

I stopped reading the Post as much as I used to and especially no longer read the comments there. Too maddening.

by underdog on Apr 15, 2009 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

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