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Waking up today with the sharp pain of sadness

I am a loyal resident of Broncos Country

It appears that Jay Cutler will be traded, and soon.  Some reports have a deal getting done as soon as Friday.  There's been enough talk about blame, about who is at fault, and why things have gone the way they have.  In the end, I believe some things can just happen, that a series of events can lead one spiraling downward, no blame necessary.  There will be talk of the bounty the Broncos hope to receive and of hope that the bounty will quickly turn around a bad football team.  There will be renewed excitement as we approach the NFL Draft.

For me, today, there is sadness.  Not because of Jay Cutler getting traded, not because the team seems to be in chaos.  No, those things will work themselves out.  I am a member of Broncos Country and right now Broncos Country is hurt, wounded.  We are a family, those of us who reside in Broncos Country, and when one of us hurts we all hurt.  Like all families there are disagreements, there are times when our loyalties are put to the test.  While it is a business for all of them, it is much more for us.  Yes, I am a resident of Broncos Country, in sickness and in health, in good times and bad times, til death do us part.

The Jay Cutler saga might be the most divisive time in our history.  Tensions are at an all-time high and the threat of civil war is real.  That saddens me.  As a fan base, we are all we have.  Am I my brother's keeper?  Yes I am.

I have made my opinions on this whole thing clear from Day 1.  I want Jay Cutler to be our quarterback but that doesn't appear it will happen.  His comments last night, "I never wanted to get traded," they hurt me as well. 

 

Star-divide

I have always felt Jay to be a good person.  He had done much in the Denver community with regards to charity and his public battle with diabetes makes him a genuine hero and role model to millions.  He is outspoken and emotional, yes, but I also feel when approached as he was last night, impromptu, that he speaks the truth, or at least what he believes to be the truth at that moment.

Yes, Jay Cutler is a good person that has been getting bad advice for a long time.  Perhaps only now he is realizing that no matter what he goes on to do in his NFL career, this saga will stick with him, that he will always be a polarizing figure, that he will always be divisive within Broncos Nation.

That saddens me.  We can do something about it, however.  Regardless of your feelings on the matter.  No matter who you place the burden of blame upon, you are my brother.  We are all hurting now and we all deal with the pain and feeling of vulnerability differently.  I am there for you, as many of your fellow Broncos fans are.  Am I my brothers keeper?  Yes I am.

This has tested us, in a way that, as Broncos fans, we have never been tested before.  Some will chose to leave Broncos Country.  If so, I wish you well and will welcome you back home at any time.  We are family.  For those of us that remain, be there for each other and allow those who have been hurt by this to heal in their own time. Fans of other teams see this vulnerability and are looking to attack.  We must stay strong and remember what is important.  We all bleed orange and blue. 

So, fellow Broncos fans, take a deep breath and feel pride for your Country.  We might be down, but we will never be out.  No matter what happens we'll always have the Broncos, and each other, on Sunday afternoons.

Am I my brothers keeper?  Yes I Am!

Go Broncos!

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My feelings exactly

Cutler isn’t a bad guy in my opinion and I wish none of this ever happened.

But its time for everyone to move on, and if ESPN is correct in their reporting that Denver might trade Cutler as soon as tomorrow, maybe we can all start that sooner rather than later.

by PortlandOrange on Apr 2, 2009 6:02 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice post!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Apr 2, 2009 6:16 AM MDT reply actions  

After every travesty...

There is time for healing. It is time to move on, and move on we must. I also bleed Orange and Blue, and lately I’ve been bleeding it alot. It’s time to start the recovery period.

Strength and honor

by kybroncomaniac on Apr 2, 2009 6:21 AM MDT reply actions  

Very well said

I hate to see that some of the “family” are already calling each other names over this sorry affair.

Time heals all wounds – i surely hope it does.

by AlleyCat. on Apr 2, 2009 6:28 AM MDT reply actions  

State of the Union-esque, TSG.

You are a bigger man than I, Guru. While I allowed myself to be swept up in the vortex of vitriol that this saga has let loose here, you have chained yourself to the foundations that have made MHR such a welcoming home for Broncos fans around the world. I, for one, will heed your call for a truce that may one day lead to the return of true peace to this site. For, as much as this situation has divided us, we are still members of the wider Broncos Country of which you speak so lovingly. From this moment forward, I will refrain from engaging in the sort of discussions that have brought us to the brink of civil war. What’s done is done and it was never in our power to stop it. I hope that, when the dusts settles, we are all still standing side by side behind the Orange and Blue. Grieve as you must; I’ll do the same and we’ll meet back here to laugh about it someday sooner rather than later.

I hope you can all forgive me for this perhaps excessive rhetorical flourish, but it just felt right and I meant every word of it. I apologize to anyone I have offended here over these past few days. It’s been a rough time for us all, but we’ll get through it… we always do. Go Broncos!

by ejruiz on Apr 2, 2009 6:29 AM MDT reply actions  

+2

"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande

"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki

by broncosmontana on Apr 2, 2009 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

+6

"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason." ---Shanny to Marcus Thomas...

by Broncs Cheer on Apr 2, 2009 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Guru- I read MHR everyday and although I rarely comment- I love this website. I too share your sentiments. Tuesday night after hearing Bowlen’s comments I felt sick. I tossed and turned all night as if we had just lost the Super Bowl. I’m not sure what’s going on- I just wish that Bowlen would step in- fly to Nashville and do whatever it takes to make amends with Culter. Yeah it may be true that he has acted immature in this- or too trusting to his agent … yes he may pout sometimes- but he is very talented and he will mature and at least at the time of this writing he is a Bronco. I will always be a Bronco fan- have been my whole life- since the days of Steve Tensi and Floyd Little- I just don’t want to see JC go on to greatness with another team and wonder “what if?” It’s almost as if Shanny’s great manipulation of the draft orchestrated to get Cutler and all of the hard work put into him as a Bronco has been a waste and will benefit us very little, Moving on will be inevitable- but I am left feeling why did this have to happen? I’m not sure I will ever have that answer. Jay- surprise us all and get into Dove Valley. Regardless of what anybody says – we want you here. Go Bronocs!!!

by SouthBroncs on Apr 2, 2009 6:36 AM MDT reply actions  

you have never and will never see a story like this in the post

i love my team. that means the guys who show up on sundays. i have NO PROBLEM getting the pieces of the puzzle shuffled. there are countless different ways to put a winning team together, and after all these years of breathing the air in my little slice of broncos country down south, i am truly optimistic about our upcoming season.
you’re gonna turn your back on a team with eddie, marshall, weapon x, peyton, wigs, dj, the ryans, shef, elvis, spencer, and champ?
no way.

by neurospasm on Apr 2, 2009 6:37 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm so sadness

I’m feeling exactly like you….sadness, desperate, so frustrated. I love Jay, I love everything about Broncos….why is this offseason so bad?

by sabry on Apr 2, 2009 6:53 AM MDT reply actions  

Brothers Keeper

I’m glad to hear some positive light being shed on this situation. I’ve grown tired of the negative tone to people responding to blogs all over the interent with their person negative feelings about McDaniels or Cutler or even Bowlen.

Finally someone can put their own personal opinion of any person involved in the situation and take a step back and see the big picture. We are all Broncos fans! Our faith should rest in Team! No individual will win the super bowl for us. And I for one, am excited to see what McDaniels can do, with or without Cutler.

by Jeremy Foster on Apr 2, 2009 7:05 AM MDT reply actions  

I will hold my head up!

I am a Bronco fan , and I bleed orange and blue. I will go into this season, and many more with pride and honor. Yes things have happened that I don’t like. yes player and personell have made me mad. But as the great Shanny said " Tough times don’t last Only tough people do". Thanks so much Guru for MHR and you dedidcation! It has been a pillar for me to lean on in these tough times. I say , just like Guru, let’s all stay strong as a Bronco Nation family. Things will get bet. Way to go Guru!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tough times don't last.......Only tough people!

by moorebroncos on Apr 2, 2009 7:07 AM MDT reply actions  

This reminds me of when Reeves drafter Tommy Maddox to “replace” Elway .. not surprisingly that led to somebody leaving town.

by hallandnash on Apr 2, 2009 7:09 AM MDT reply actions  

Yes I am my Brothers Keeper, Yes I am a Broncos Fan, Yes within me the emotions churn like a

Hurricane, different emotions surfacing with the fury of the storm itself. The black clouds that hang over Dove

Valley hang over my heart. Yet as the storm rages I know I will survive, I know The Broncos will surive, and

I know You my friend, will survive, because I AM MY BROTHERS KEEPER

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Apr 2, 2009 7:23 AM MDT reply actions  

healing..

Everybody will get a chance to heal — once the trade happens [tomorrow imho] people will begin looking and analyzing the trade… this will continue the rifts in the nation.

People will either like it or say we didn’t get enough… how can you ever get enough for a pro bowl qb they will ask?

Then we will have the draft, people will wonder why we didn’t take a qb until the 5th round, we need a qb, McDaniels sucks! More rifts…

THEN we will get to OTA’s and open practices where people here can go see the new coach in action for the first time and begin to form an opinion that is based upon things we can see with our eyes instead of speculate on — people will start to grow a little closer.

Then we get to preseason and while somewhat pointless, people will join together because like it or not, they are broncos fans and they want to watch orange and blue football.

The season will happen… people will criticize some decisions made in games but I really think that people are smart enough to realize that we probably couldnt do better than .500 regardless and their hatred will continue to fade.

Have faith and keep your heads up bronco nation

peace,
todd

by Todd Jewell on Apr 2, 2009 7:24 AM MDT reply actions  

I've been a fan for a long time....

not Brown socks long, but close. While this is a very trying time, it is not the worse we have been through as a team. Twice we have faced actually losing our Broncos and weathered it. we’ve had quarterback controversies, coaching controversies, player conflicts, the murder of an adored player, drug problems, jailings, the list goes on.

This community is stronger than this problem; this team is stronger, the fan base is stronger. Then is a Japanese saying, “you cannot temper the sword within passing through the flame.”

by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 2, 2009 7:27 AM MDT reply actions  

Excellent points, SWG

+ a billion

"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande

"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki

by broncosmontana on Apr 2, 2009 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Cutler Never Wanted to Be Traded

You really want to get your blood boiling?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cutler-now-says-he-never-wanted-to-be-traded?urn=nfl,152280

Cutler now says he never wanted to be traded
By MJD

As you probably noticed, I haven’t been terribly critical of Jay Cutler during this whole fiasco with the Broncos, but here’s a new little twist that makes me think Cutler is indeed being a silly goose: He now says he never wanted to be traded.

by jvill on Apr 2, 2009 7:54 AM MDT reply actions  

Doh

Sorry, I didn’t read the previous posts.

by jvill on Apr 2, 2009 7:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice post Guru

I’m sad as well. Have been since they made the announcement.

The draftnik and fan in me has been intrigued by the possibilities for the trade, but there has been an underlying sadness from the start.

I’ve been frustrated with Jay, but I’ve always thought he was a decent guy.

Blessings to him and the rest of Bronco Nation.

by NedBronco on Apr 2, 2009 8:11 AM MDT reply actions  

Good Thoughts and Right On

Guru you speak for us die hard fans, well done.

SWG, I saw the brown uniforms in a real game, although my mommy took me to the game, Your perspective is right on.

The Team comes before the player, just ask anyone whose name is in the Ring at Mile High.

Coach, I am Hurt, Not Dead - Remember the Titans

by Halfmile on Apr 2, 2009 8:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse

Reading Cutler’s statement about not wanting to be traded made me feel even sadder. I’m wondering if it’s true or just cya talk. Guess we all just have to accept this and move on. Unbelievable. I’ve been a Broncos fan since I was a kid in the early 60s, have been through worse times than this, and they’ll always be my team.

by Super Fan on Apr 2, 2009 8:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice one, Bro

“For my part, I am so attired in wonder, I know not what to say” – Shakespeare

Yeah…that sums it up. McD screwed up, Jay screwed up, then they got into tantrums and posturing. everyone screwed up, now it’s gone so far and so long that everyone is fed up, i too wished until yesterday that reconciliation would be possible…it still might…but…i don’t hold out too much hope for it. if their stiff-necked pride couldn’t be put aside a week ago, i doubt it can after this. (c’mon guys, please?)
I will, however, still be bleeding blue and orange next year, no matter how bad our team sucks, or how sad i am that Jay isn’t with us because he couldn’t be a little more mature about McD’s posturing.
I’ve been a Broncos fan since the 80’s, before i even lived here, and if i can be the only one in a room full of cowboys, packers or steelers fans, you can bet i’ll be one when i’m here with the rest of my brothers and sisters, whether Jay is with us or not.

GO BRONCOS!

by Hana on Apr 2, 2009 8:33 AM MDT reply actions  

Rec'd and buzzed!

And where can I get one of those damn cards? I want one.

Jay Cutler was great for us. Most of the memorable moments in Bronco history of the last two and half seasons were thanks in large part of Cutler’s heroics on the field. This really is nothing short of a disaster for the Bronco nation, but like any disaster we will endure.

I can honestly say that this disaster is nothing compared to the disaster I endured in 1990 when the Broncos lost 55-10 to the 49ers. I live in northern California and had to endure months…no YEARS of ridicule and “joking” about how horrible Elway and the Broncos were. Of course, I had moved to San Diego by the time we finally won the Super Bowl, but being pretty much the only Bronco fan in my home town I can safely say that most anyone who enjoyed football in 1997 and knew me in the early 90’s probably thought of me when Elway held up that trophy.

Now that I move on from the Jay Cutler era, I look forward to the four first round draft picks we will likely have over the next two seasons and am truly excited about the future. I will miss Cutler, but I cannot let his departure rule my heart. I will not give up on the 2009 seasons before a single game has even been played.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Apr 2, 2009 8:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Grand Mother always says

each person is responsible for what they do and how they turn out…so…like…i guess i should try to be more forgiving…..maybe tomorrow

And i am totally upset with HIM...omg...i could just slap His face off...i shouldnt feel this way but...wow...like i just feel like i should go get my hair done and put on that special dress and stilleto heels and show Him what Hes gonna miss...cuz Hes never touching this again!!!!!!!!!!

by MHRsGirl on Apr 2, 2009 8:37 AM MDT reply actions  

forgiving is fine...never forget.

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Apr 2, 2009 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

omg, your avatar rules!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Apr 2, 2009 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice Avatar, MHRsGirl---makes me laugh

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Apr 2, 2009 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Couldn't have said it better myself, G

Glutton for punishment that I am, this morning I tuned into ESPN radio and, somewhere in the verbal blowdrier that is Colin Cowherd, I heard him make an a reasonable point.

As fans, we tend to forgive our stars for quirky behavior or for acting like prima donnas, because our intense focus and empassioned adoration sort of makes them that way. And all of them make mistakes, in life and in games. But even so, if you’re very lucky, you’ll have a QB for your football team who will, between the inevitable mistakes, suddenly do something very special that will take your breath away. Some incredible throw or improvised scramble that reminds you why you love the game.

I’ve supported Jay throughout this issue, but I’ve been hard on him as well, expecting him to grow some thicker skin. The prospect of losing a guy who is a very special player, who has the potential for one of those breathtaking plays every time he takes a snap, is saddening.

But it’s happening. All we can do now is rally as fans, heal as we can when we can, and live to fight another day. I’m not worried about what other teams’ fans will think of us. I’m more concerned about what we think of ourselves and each other, how we treat each other as fans when controversies rage.

But I have faith and perspective (as articulated so beautifully by SWG above) that this is not an issue that will ruin our franchise beyond repair. If anything, the league is counting us out. We have an opportunity to catch them with their pants down. And if McD and X are capable of that, I will support them all the way.

"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande

"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki

by broncosmontana on Apr 2, 2009 8:53 AM MDT reply actions  

Broncos Franchise Reputation

For me one of the worst elements in this is the Broncos reputation around the league. For the past 14 years (perhaps longer), the Broncos franchise and ownership have been among the most highly regarded in the league. Maybe the on-field performance has not been there since the 2005 season, but the franchise itself has been considered a model.

We could say that in December. We could say that after Shanahan’s dismissal and classy exit press conference. We could say that after McDaniels hiring and press conference. We could say that with the signing of Brian Dawkins. Can we say that now?

This is not about blame for the Cutler situation. There is plenty of blame to pass around to the various parties there. We need to right the ship. The Cutler drama needs to be put to bed. The Broncos need an impact draft. Then it will be up to the team (including the coaches and front office) to bring it all together again.

The Broncos’ black eye will heal eventually.

Keep Moving Forward.

by ColoradoOwl on Apr 2, 2009 8:57 AM MDT reply actions  

Jay Cutler's not gone yet

I know you guys will think I’m nuts, but I’m not sure he won’t play for Denver next year.

Just my opinion, don’t kill me on it.

by super7 on Apr 2, 2009 9:05 AM MDT reply actions  

Still salvageable

Cutler said he does not want to be traded. The Broncos (before Tuesday) said they did not want to trade him. This does not seem that hard really….

So, I agree. If they want to get together they still can.

Keep Moving Forward.

by ColoradoOwl on Apr 2, 2009 9:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Somebody's gonna need their head extracted from their derriere

before that happens. But it’s a great point and I would love it if we had an 11th hour happy ending.

"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande

"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki

by broncosmontana on Apr 2, 2009 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

Until it's done...

I guess I can still dream…
Cutler fires Cook, calls Bowlen and apologizes for his part -and says he is on his way to the airport to fly back to Colorado to be with the team. Then he shows up, McJedi, Jay, and Bowlen have a heart to heart -everyone apologizes for their part in this, and Jay is put back on the depth chart. Then all three of them have a private meeting with the team and all of them apologize to the team for putting them thru hell.

"I’m sorry, I’m not just going to pin this mess on the new guy. I expected more from a team leader, a veteran, a so-called franchise QB." ~broncosmontana

by Colorado_Kitten on Apr 2, 2009 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

And everyone learns from their mistakes.

Love it, kitten!

"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande

"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki

by broncosmontana on Apr 2, 2009 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

Works for me!

Until its done we can hope….

Keep Moving Forward.

by ColoradoOwl on Apr 2, 2009 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah the Broncos should say...

Oh, our bad…we thought you wanted to be traded. Well, now that we know you don’t, get your ass to camp!

by c_style on Apr 2, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Would that operation be called...

an anal-cranial-ectomy? Help out out here doc!

by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 2, 2009 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1000

ROFL
i can think of several people who need that treatment…call in the proctologists, quick!

by Hana on Apr 2, 2009 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure

As late as yesterday I had hopes it could be resolved, even though Bowlen appeared angry at cutler ignoring him. But after Cutler denied getting any calls (I don’t believe that for a second) and then saying, “Golly, they’re going to trade me? Why?”, I doubt if Bowlen would take him back if he low-crawled from Nashville to Dove Valley.

Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance

by bradley on Apr 2, 2009 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Bowlen is very UPSET with Jay

But Bowlen is willing to put feelings aside if this becomes salvageable. He wants to win and by all means, Jay is still an inexpensive player who is a top 10 player at his position.

by super7 on Apr 2, 2009 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah Peter King was on Colin Cowheard today and said the same thing

That there is still a chance that Cutler remains on the broncos. That is the scenario I want the most. Lets just forgive and forget and then WIN.

by purplesocks on Apr 2, 2009 11:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well said, Guru

"I’m sorry, I’m not just going to pin this mess on the new guy. I expected more from a team leader, a veteran, a so-called franchise QB." ~broncosmontana

by Colorado_Kitten on Apr 2, 2009 9:05 AM MDT reply actions  

trading cutler

I hope we don’t get focus on getting a qb to start next year. I like Chris Simms and i think he is capable of playing in that system for a couple of years. I say focus on the defense and get some hard hitting guys up the middle. The Broncos have always been at their best when the had a hard hitting safety (Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater). I say focus on the defense and let the ne system control the offense. Mcdaniels is the coach and he is not going anywhere for a couple of years at least so let him do his thing and lets build a defense we can be proud of. I would much rather watch a 7-6 win versus a 45-33 lose. Go Broncos!!!!

by kulbrees on Apr 2, 2009 9:27 AM MDT reply actions  

Good post Guru

we need to remember this, I have tried and in some ways I have failed so for that I am sorry to my family here at MHR

GO BRONCOS

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 2, 2009 9:44 AM MDT reply actions  

You hit the nail on the head

when you said that when approached impromptu, he speaks the truth. I think I do believe Jay when he says he never wanted it to come to this. I know, I know, he was the one who formally asked to be traded. His agent was feeding him some bad Kool-Aid. I believe that he did like Denver, liked his teammates and ultimately did not want to leave. But at this point, actions speak louder than words. He followed the advice of his agent and here we are today getting ready to sing “So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye…” So, while I do not think Jay Cutler is this hideous creature, I do think he’s a young guy trying to find his way in the NFL. I genuinely hope he gets some better advice in the future!

Romans 5:8

by BronconNC on Apr 2, 2009 9:52 AM MDT reply actions  

It's like Elway said

Jay’s been getting some bad advice. And now it’s spiraled ridiculously out of control and probably past the point of no return. Everyone loses in this…and Broncos Nation is left bleeding.

"I’m sorry, I’m not just going to pin this mess on the new guy. I expected more from a team leader, a veteran, a so-called franchise QB." ~broncosmontana

by Colorado_Kitten on Apr 2, 2009 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thank you TSG

for helping Bronco Nation keep things in perspective, including but not limited to the current situation.

by Leukadian on Apr 2, 2009 9:56 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice post.

I just wonder what it’s going to be like watching the Broncos this year. No Shanahan. No Cutler. Beli-up-chuck clone prowling the sidelines. A plethora of new faces everywhere. Fans in an uproar. I’m afraid it won’t feel like “my” team anymore. We’ll see. I think I’ll watch Nascar for a while and avoid this stuff.

"Be not like dumb-driven cattle...."

by jcps on Apr 2, 2009 9:56 AM MDT reply actions  

More, More, Maudlin

I’m tired of this whole soap.

by jcps on Apr 2, 2009 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

There is a solution

Pat Bowlen with his hat in his hands and equipped with a lawn chair flies down to Cutler and sits on his porch until he is granted an audience.

They really should have made bates HC.

by FrankPitts on Apr 2, 2009 9:56 AM MDT reply actions  

I really hope that statement was Tongue and Cheek!

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 2, 2009 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

"They really should have made bates HC."

No, they should have made Rick Dennison the HC.

Growing older is not for sissies. Jack Palance

by bradley on Apr 2, 2009 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

NO NO NO

bates never called downfield plays. started strong, then fizzled out and became predictable the rest of the season

SCREEN PASS
SCREEN PASS
SCREEN PASS

by lolcopter on Apr 2, 2009 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

seriously…it was so frustrating seeing the play calling at the end of the season.

by trumanj on Apr 2, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Stolen from another poster

Bates: “Let’s go with a pass on this play.”
Cutler: “I love you man!”

by AllBroncsallday on Apr 2, 2009 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

"It's not you it's me"

This whole saga reminds me of a bad breakup, where both parties are at fault, and then everyone’s left feeling sad at the end, and then the girl says, “Wait, I think this is a mistake, we should get back together” and the guy says, “But I’ve already moved on psychologically from you, I don’t think we can find the magic again.” And then there are a lot of tears. But they move on. And you know who really gets hurt? The families of both people. (In this case, that means the fans) But maybe it was not meant to be.

Wait, or is that a Lifetime channel movie? I can’t remember.

Anyway, AMEN, Guru. Well said.

by underdog on Apr 2, 2009 10:20 AM MDT reply actions  

Well said

Like Zappa said earlier, I have known pain, I too was in northern California in 1990 going to high school with nothing but 49ers fans and wore my Broncos jacket the next day and the rest of the year after the SB loss (luckily I graduated that year and got to move to New Mexico). Being the lone fan in a see of 49er idiots is tough.

This has been tough as well, because seeing what has happened has questioned my faith in the Bronco management. Up until now, I had always believed (Check that) I had always known that the management (Bowlens. GM’s, Coaches) were always trying to do what was best for the team, many of the choices may not have been for the best in the end and may have been foolish, but I always thought the choices were made to try to make the team better. Now I am left wondering if these choices are more to do with ego, pride, and insecurity versus actually doing what is best for the Broncos. I will still question it, the only proof will be the product on the field.

I don’t question anyone’s love or faith in the Broncos, we are all fans, and we can all agree that we want what is best for the team. I will still cheer come this fall, but I will still keep an eye on Jay and hope he does well, just because a player leaves doesn’t mean you have to hate him. I hoped Steve Atwater would do well in NY, I am glad to see Dominik Hixon do well for the Giants, I am glad Trevor Pryce has done well for the Ravens, you can always cheer for good people and players. I am sure that many Tampa Bay fans cheered for the John Lynch after he came here. To me Broncos are family, Jay will always be in the Bronco family to me.

I really don’t care which side of the debate that you come out on, I will still support my fellow fans, even if I disagree with them.

So, fellow Broncos fans, take a deep breath and feel pride for your Country. We might be down, but we will never be out. No matter what happens we’ll always have the Broncos, and each other, on Sunday afternoons.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 2, 2009 10:27 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Feel your pain

I was in college in SF for that Super Blowout, and almost took a week off from school because I couldn’t face 49er fans or the news or anything. I had this awful queasy feeling for a day or two after that. But I stuck with it, sucked it up and faced the music. (And put my Broncos hat away for awhile, frankly.) If I can survive that, I can survive any Broncos mess!

by underdog on Apr 2, 2009 10:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Portis!

Watching him dress up in those wacky costumes for his presser, I laughed aloud and for a short time it felt almost as if he’d never left us.

"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande

"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki

by broncosmontana on Apr 2, 2009 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Good point

I miss Portis, I know he may of been a pain in the ass for Shanahan, but i loved seeing the WWE belts on the sideline after torching KC.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 2, 2009 11:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

That will go down

as one of the greatest games in our history, both for the belts, and Rod Smith’s double-ring locker room rebuttal to Eddie Kennison.

"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande

"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki

by broncosmontana on Apr 2, 2009 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Once again very well said Guru.

When I heard Jay’s comments about not wanting to be traded and that he didn’t want things to get this far I was speachless and pissed at the same time. I just want this whole scenario to end so that we can start to focus on the draft. I have lost some respect for Jay in this whole thing and as much as I was ready to kick him out the door, I honestly would love to see a last second reconciliation by all parties, however I don’t see that happening.

It is obvious that Cutler has been getting bad advice from his agent and I hope that he learns from this experience with whatever team he is playing for in 2009.

These are definatly hard times for us in orange and blue. We are Bronco fans that stick together through thick and thin and will be stronger in the future because of all this.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!

by weazel on Apr 2, 2009 11:15 AM MDT reply actions  

This post

is what true leadership is really all about. Thank you John for posting this in such a compassionate, caring fashion. With leaders like you the family of Bronco fans everywhere can grieve openly. Just remember, “and this too shall pass”.

GO BRONCOS!!!

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Apr 2, 2009 11:41 AM MDT reply actions  

Torn asunder

I have avoided making a post over the last few days because I knew if I did it would result in me saying somthing really dumb and alienating some people here. I have learned alot since joining MHR, and perhaps the most important lesson was avoiding those knee jerk reactions and emotional outbursts that can make you say some things you regret later.

That being said, I find myself ripped in two seperate directions and I no longer know which way to go. I will forgo all the I am one of the biggest fan rants and just say for the first time in my life I have doubts about my Broncos.

As I sit here to write my feelings down and air them out here to the new friends I have found here at MHR, I find that I still am having a hard time expressing just how much at odds I am, with not only the Broncos, but with myself. I think to myself how can I root for McDaniels now with everything that has happened? How can I wish Jay the best where ever he ends up after all that has happened? Those two questions have plagued me over the last few weeks and until today I just had no answer for them.

Then I read this post by Guru and things cleard for me if only somewhat as to why I will continue to love my Broncos. I wll root for McDaniels because he coaches the team I love and his success walks hand in hand with the pride I have in my team. I will root for Jay(unless hes playing us) because he has brought so much excitement to my Sundays during the last 3 seasons and I just plain love him as a player.

Will I ever get over this and move on? I think yes, but it will be awhile before I get back to that comfort level I had before Shanny left. I do know one thing, if I had not found MHR this year my outlook on things may be totally different. All of you have helped me to remain positive even when I wanted to say the heck with it and give up one of the most important things in my life. While I know it would sound silly to some to say that a football team is one of the most important things in one’s life, I know that when I say that here I am understood and not looked at like a freak.

So here I sit feeling very sad and wishing some things could be different. But thanks to all of you I am no longer torn as to what I will do. I will continue to root for all things Broncos while keeping one eye open on the promising young QB who had captured my football heart. Good luck Jay and I wish only the best for you whereever you end up.

Thank you to everyone here for giving me a place to express the way I feel.
GO BRONCOS 13-3

by broncosorbust on Apr 2, 2009 1:47 PM MDT reply actions  

psssst....your Socialism is showing. ;-)

"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!

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