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Strong and weak draft classes?

Some commentators have said that this year’s draft class is relatively weak, and high first-round picks are not worth their price. Wondering about this, I looked at previous draft classes to see what the year-to-year variation in quality was. It’s less than I thought!

Star-divide

Almost every year, consistently between 7 and 11 first rounders are stars or better. About half a dozen each year are busts. Only 1991 and 92 were worse than this, and those two years’ second rounds were better than normal.

Here’s how I rated the players, looking for first-round quality:
•  Great (defined by at least five pro bowl appearances, or an)
•  Star (at least two pro bowls – more than, Deltha O’Neal and Tory James, two Broncos cornerbacks who made one, but who the Broncos cut)
•  Bust (less than two years as a starter – unless having made a pro bowl, like Detron Smith, who never started for the Broncos but was a great special teamer)

Then I went to www.pro-football-reference.com and looked at each draft class from 1990 through 2002, round by round, to see how many players fell into each category. And I included the fabled 1983 “Elway” class.

Almost every year, consistently between 7 and 11 first rounders are stars or better. About half a dozen each year are busts. Here’s what I saw, year by year, for round 1:

Year        Greats      Stars    Busts
2002        2    6    5
2001        3    7    6
2000        3    5    7
1999        4    5    7
1998        4    3    4
1997        3    6    7
1996        3    6    3
1995        5    5    5
1994        1    7    3
1993        2    6    3
1992        1    3    5
1991        0    4    5
1990        4    3    4
1983        7    6    2

And for round two:

Year        Greats     Stars    Busts
2002        0    3    12   
2001        1    7    7
2000        0    0    6
1999        0    1    13
1998        0    3    7
1997        0    4    12
1996        2    2    13
1995        0    1    13
1994        2    1    13
1993        1    2    6
1992        2    3    11
1991        2    0    12
1990        0    3    7
1983        0    4    8

By round 3, there’s about one “star” a year, and one “great” every two years. Over half are “busts”. And for later rounds, about one “star” a year and one “great” every five years (per round). Most late round selections are busts, as one would expect.

Late Round stars are rare, with no “greats” at all in the fourth round over these years, but otherwise equally distributed all the way out.

1993 was unusual, in that the 7th and 8th rounds yielded four stars and one “great” (Jessie Armistead, 5 pro bowls). Other than that, late-round greats were pretty rare.

The only other great players selected in the 6th round or later in this time frame include Shannon Sharpe in 1990, Michael Bates (the return specialist who made five pro bowls) in 1992, Tom Nalen in 1994, Terrell Davis in 1995 (only three pro bowls, but an MVP), Matt Birk in 1998 and Tom Brady in 2000 (again, only four pro bowls, but an MVP).

Three for the Broncos! Maybe Mr. Hillis will be the latest in that proud string.

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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I think you forgot about

Karl Mecklenburg—11th round
He would rate more than a star

My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season

by KaptainKirk on Apr 21, 2009 5:04 PM MDT reply actions  

Mecklenburg was definitely great

on the field, as well as by definition, because he went to six pro bowls. But he was drafted in 1983, before I started looking closely. (I only looked at the first two rounds in 1983, but now that you mention it, there were two greats and 7 stars in the 7th – 13th rounds in 1983. That was a special year.)

"Remember, it's only a game."

by robswenson on Apr 21, 2009 6:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

12th round, as I recall

Same year we…..uh……drafted Elway (so to speak).

by Colinski on Apr 21, 2009 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1 for an interesting analysis

Kind of interesting to see how the number of “greats” has declined as the years have gone on while the number of “stars” has increased.

Be interesting to see if there’s a correlation between length of tenure on a team, and achievement of “great” vs “star” status; in other words, is the typical great player one who has a long term stint on a single team? If so, that could reflect the effect of Free Agency on the players.

by Brian Shrout on Apr 21, 2009 5:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Also the players in later years have had shorter careers

so far, which is why I stopped in 2002 – not many chances for “greatness” if you need 5 probowls in your first 6 years…

"Remember, it's only a game."

by robswenson on Apr 21, 2009 6:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting research and analysis here Rob.

Good job. You get a big ole rec from me. We have two first round picks, so our odds of landing a “Great” are great! :)

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Apr 21, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree and Rec'd

My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season

by KaptainKirk on Apr 21, 2009 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would tend to agree with most people in this year's class is not especially strong in certain positions

Namely QB, DT, CB, and S
The class is strong in OT, WR, ILB
I would say it is average for DE, OLB, and RB

Next year’s class will be somewhat inverse of this year’s with strengths in DT, QB, and S, and some weakness in OT and RB, but overall should be better.

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by Broncoman on Apr 21, 2009 6:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Is that counting players who were drafted in the later rds,

and became solid and productive players, yet never attained ‘star’ status? Good report…

by bfree2bronc on Apr 21, 2009 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

wow nice post

 enjoyed reading it, thanks

Moreno in '09!

by Steve O' on Apr 21, 2009 6:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Terrell Davis was great IMO.

Drafted in the 6th round at 196 was a great football player and a steal for the Broncos. The Broncos were 7-9 the pryor year and the acquistion of Davis helped them tremendously. And didn’t he, like Elway let the team hold some of his salary to help with the salary cap?

by bfree2bronc on Apr 21, 2009 6:52 PM MDT reply actions  

PFR just did an article on "Most Dominant RBs: Best Overall RBs Ever"

posted on the pro-football-reference.com site on April 10, 2009. Guess who had the best year ever?

“TD’s 1998 is the new gold standard for seasons. 2,000 rushing yards and a Super Bowl MVP. His 2,476 rushing yards in 19 games that season is still the record for rushing yards in a season.” He also ranked #5 of all time for his 1997 season. Career-wise these guys rate him #8 all time.

"Remember, it's only a game."

by robswenson on Apr 21, 2009 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

As he very well should be...

I’m glad we got him!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Apr 21, 2009 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

And Shannon SHarpe!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 22, 2009 7:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great post...

I was surprised to see the number of busts out ot the second round though. Just goes to show the draft can be a crap shoot, sometimes you roll sixes and sometimes, well, you just get crap.

by bchiper on Apr 22, 2009 9:16 AM MDT reply actions  

Question

Maybe I missed something here and hopefully you can explain this but the numbers for each year, dont add up to the number of picks in the first round? For example in 2002 the numbers 2,6,5 only take you through 13 prospects…not sure if my point is clear or i missed something in your explanation? Hopefully you can help me out…thanks

by JohnnyBGreat on Apr 22, 2009 11:26 AM MDT reply actions  

I only counted the best and worst here

Lots of players start for two or more seasons, or only make one pro bowl. They may be good players, but neither “stars” nor “busts” (at least not by my criteria). These are the people I didn’t count in the lists.

"Remember, it's only a game."

by robswenson on Apr 22, 2009 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

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