2009 NFL Draft Open Thread--Round Two Pt. 2
by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 25, 2009 6:38 PM MDT
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| 2009 NFL Draft | |||||
| Round/Pick | Team |
Player, Position, School | Comments | ||
| 2.33 |  DET |
FS Louis Delmas, Western Michigan | Delmas will be a very good player for the Lions. He is really tough in run support, and hits very hard. Guru isn't a fan of the Lions' draft so far, but I am. (This is Ted on the comments, for those who can't tell.) | ||
| 2.34 |  NE |
SS Patrick Chung, Oregon | A thumper who can eventually replace Rodney Harrison at Strong Safety. A nice pick. | ||
| 2.35 |  STL |
MLB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State | This is a guy who fits the 4-3 scheme that Steve Spagnuolo favors. I'm not surprised that he was more highly valued here than Maualuga. | ||
| 2.36 |  CLE |
WR Brian Robiskie, Ohio State | The Browns take a hometown guy, who played for Chagrin Falls High School, and Ohio State University. The Browns are replacing Donte Stallworth with this pick, and really, getting a better possession guy. | ||
| 2.37 |  DEN |
CB Alphonso Smith, Wake Forest | I love Alphonso Smith!!!! This guy has tremendous ball skils and anticipation, and will always be among the league leaders in INTs as a Number 2 CB. He's a starting nickelback right now. This is a great pick. | ||
| 2.38 |  CIN |
MLB Rey Maualuga, Southern Cal | This might be a really good pick for the Bengals, and everybody knows I am not a Rey lover. His college teammate/babysitter Keith Rivers is already in Cincinnati, which may help him get acclimated. I would be somewhat hopeful if I were a Bengals fan. | ||
| 2.39 |  JAX |
RT Eben Britton, Arizona | The Jags are beefing up their O-Line for the future. Britton is an RTO, but you don't need him to play the left side when you already drafted Eugene Monroe. | ||
| 2.40 | NE |
NT Ron Brace, Boston College | This is a hedge against losing Vince Wilfork in Free Agency after this season. This is a classic New England plan-ahead pick. | ||
| 2.41 | NE |
CB Darius Butler, UConn | The whole world knew that Bill Belichick wanted Butler, and he got his man. He will be the nickelback this season, and replace Shawn Springs after a year or two. | ||
| 2.42 |  BUF |
CB Jairus Byrd, Oregon | The son of former Charger Gill Byrd. Like with any slow CB, I'm not really much of a fan. | ||
| 2.43 |  CAR |
DE Everette Brown, Florida State | Memo to Jamie Dukes: Florida State is NOT the Harvard of the South. It may not even be among the top 5 academic schools in the state of Florida. Everette Brown is a 40 front end, who is going to a good situation for his growth and development. He's a little Jarvis Moss-like, but the Panthers system makes me think he'll do pretty well there. | ||
| 2.44 |  MIA |
QB Pat White, West Virginia | Here is a guy who can play in the (real, actual) Wildcat for a year, and eventually challenge Chad Pennington for the starting job at QB. He's a better thrower than people thought, but a developmental prospect. | ||
| 2.45 |  NYG |
LB Clint Sintim, Virginia | Very interesting pick here. The Giants like to blitz with the strongside LB from a 4-3, and you have to think Sintim would be well-suited for that, coming from UVA's 3-4 scheme. | ||
| 2.46 |  HOU |
DE/LB/TE Connor Barwin, Cincinnati | A great athlete, but maybe not ready to play yet. He will be a big-time contributor later though. For a 4-3 team, he's probably a SLB, and plays in goal-line packages as a TE. | ||
| 2.47 |  OAK |
S Mike Mitchell, Ohio University | Another height/weight/speed reach for Al Davis. No surprise there. | ||
| 2.48 | DEN |
S Darcel McBath, Texas Tech | He's a deep-half coverage safety, which the Broncos haven't had in awhile. I don't know about the pick value here, but McBath is a good player. | ||
| 2.49 |  SEA |
C Max Unger, Oregon | This is a good value for the Seahawks, picking up a probable 10 year starter at Center. Well-played. | ||
| 2.50 | CLE |
WR Mohamed Massequoi, Georgia | The second straight WR for the Browns. This may still portend for a divestiture of Braylon Edwards, though I wouldn't let him go if I were them. | ||
| 2.51 | BUF |
G Andy Levitre, Oregon State | Another interior lineman for a team which needs a Left Tackle. Buffalo is confusing me today, with some very meh thinking. | ||
| 2.52 | CLE |
DE David Veikune, Hawaii | A pass-rusher in a 40 front going to a 30 front team. Kind of a weird pick. | ||
| 2.53 |  PHI |
RB LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh | A quick, versatile back who will be effective in a tandem. He catches the ball well, and can take some wear off of Brian Westbrook. | ||
| 2.54 |  MIN |
RT Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma | An RTO who can put a DE on skates in the running game. He struggles against speed, as in the Texas game when Orakpo ate his lunch for him. | ||
| 2.55 |  ATL |
S William Moore, Missouri | Looked like a Top 10 pick as a junior, and like a late round guy as a senior. Which is the real guy? | ||
| 2.56 |  IND |
DT Fili Moala, Southern Cal | A three-technique who sometimes loses leverage. He is a pentrating type like the Colts like. | ||
| 2.57 |  BAL |
DE Paul Kruger, Utah | Baltimore strikes again, getting great value in the second round. Kruger gets after the ball on every play, and will be a great addition to the Ravens defense. | ||
| 2.58 | NE |
T Sebastian Vollmer, Houston | This is kind of a reach, but he may be able to ultimately replace Nick Kaczur at RT. He does have a great nickname, Sea-bass. | ||
| 2.59 | CAR |
DB Sherrod Martin, Troy | If you listen to the coaching staff at Troy, they say that Martin is better than Leodis McKelvin was. He's a little over-age (at 24) and thin for a S, but could be a good NFL player. | ||
| 2.60 | NYG |
LT William Beatty. UConn | Beatty is a good athlete, who has the potential to start in the NFL. David Diehl struggles in pass protection for the Giants, so I am sure they'd like to move him inside to G. | ||
| 2.61 | MIA |
CB Sean Smith, Utah | This is a Parcells kind of pick, taking a big guy relative to his positional average. He's a terrific prospect, and will be a steal. I wish the Broncos had gotten him. | ||
| 2.62 |  TEN |
DT Sen'Derrick Marks, Auburn | He doesn't replace Albert Haynesworth, but he can be a good rotational player inside. | ||
| 2.63 |  ARI |
OLB Cody Brown, UConn | A fourth UConn player goes in the first two rounds. What happened to it only being a basketball school? Brown is a good player, and will help right away in Arizona. | ||
| 2.64 | DEN |
TE Richard Quinn, North Carolina | A real in-line thumper, who was under-utilized as a receiver at UNC. This is a good value at this point in the draft. If you want to get better in the red zone, TEs like this guy are helpful to that end. | ||
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"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
2nd!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
8th!
preemptive
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 25, 2009 6:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
raffle pick is Kruger
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!
by broncoboy on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Just beamed in
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
by KaptainKirk on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like Moala or Gilbert
Time to galvanize
by jack_ on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
dammit
4th
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Denver traded Chicago's first pick next year.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
like...there prolly gonna have the better record?
MHR...and proud of it!
by MHRsGirl on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, I think we will have the better record
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who be it?
Another surprise? Center time?
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Casserly
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
by KaptainKirk on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Casserly is a hustling retard.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul Kruger or Sean Smith
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Little, Wright, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
by Mike Clark on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
raffle pick is Gilbert
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
or Moala (if my raffle pick is not selected)
lol
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kruger or Gilbert
would be my picks here
by underdog on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have preferred Orakpo over Moreno
and a pick up of Shonn Greene later on.
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
137th
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Casserly is a moron
that is why he is not a GM anymore
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
McBath eh?
How about that?
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I might cry.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
what?!?!?!!?!
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
the 48th slot
Gents —
Forgive me if this has been addressed on your site already today, but can someone please clarify why Denver’s picking at 48 instead of 44? I know it was a pick from Houston, but…
Please help?
by bankmeister on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No
It wasn’t a pick from Houston. 6 teams were tied at 8-8. They rotate each round so they don’t pick in the same order.
by Rob4Braves on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
they picked first int he first, so they pick last int he second...for those who had an 8-8 record last year.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We finished with the same record as a number of teams
we had the weakest schedule, so we picked first in the first round. In the following rounds, they cycle the teams with 8-8 records, so we pick last in the 2nd, second to last in the 3rd, etc.
Time to galvanize
by jack_ on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad...
…many thanks for the info.
by bankmeister on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
In your face
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+50
LMAO
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sean Smith would have been better
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Little, Wright, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
by Mike Clark on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
yup
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we said "who" to Michael Mitchell???
Isn’t Sean Smith still on the board???
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
could it be
Marty McFly’s distant cousin?
by captncrush47 on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
They must be happy with the Front Seven people we have
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
DB DMcB
???
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Whaa??
Okay,,, this one is a surprise to me.
Safety fills a need though.
Guess they don’t like Gilbert or want to wait til next round to address that?
Odd.
by underdog on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We should inform ourselves
Before jumping to conclusions – I mean… does anyone have the skinny on this McBath kid? I’m a BIG 12 guy and haven’t hear of him… keep the faith… keep the faith…
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but still a little puzzled
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
by KaptainKirk on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st round= good
2nd= complete disaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!
by broncoboy on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Alphonso Smith
is a SUPERB player. Any round that gives you him is far from a disaster.
by underdog on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
but for a 1st rounder straight up??
he would have been att 48
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!
by broncoboy on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mike Clark
I think i need a keg of koolaid right now!!! I’m losing my mind
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I need it for myself--if defensive back--I really thought Sean Smith was a better choice
I wonder if in the turmoil this off-season didn’t affect our scouting team.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Little, Wright, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
by Mike Clark on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can only hope
it turns out like Eddie Royal as most of us were hoping for DeSawn Jackson at our #2 pick last year…
by topnation on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i remember everyone having a conniption over that.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
im just confused
ill ive heard was DL DL DL and now we walk away with 1 so far?
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
there's still 5 more rounds to go.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Nolan is sold on the FA we signed...I hope it works out.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it was all
SUBTERFUGE. Maybe our DL freakin rocks and we just don’t know it yet.
- sigh *
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We picked this guy over SEAN SMITH,
JARRON GILBERT, FILI MOALA, and SOME FOURTH GUY THAT I CANNOT REMEMBER.
FIRE MCDANIELS (kidding, though I don’t like this pick. Not at all.)
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We should have gone with that fourth guy
Obviously
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Well… I guess they know something we dont?
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyway...
good night all, fun chatting. CHeck in with ya later. Be nice to each other. ;-)
by underdog on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
uhm...I was good with 1 cb
but I give this pick a fail for sure…there was much better picks to be had at need areas…I don’t get this one
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
by sadaraine on Apr 25, 2009 6:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
McBath is a Safety not a corner
I do not get it either
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow...i dont think im gonna invite that keshawn guy over for supper...grrrr
MHR...and proud of it!
by MHRsGirl on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
There you go
The Cutler deal’s done. It appears that, contrary to what we all once thought, we got the short end of the deal.
At least pick players we need. Was it so hard?
by Rob4Braves on Apr 25, 2009 6:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
how can you say that
especially when NONE of these players have even played one down in the NFL yet?
Tell me, how does that work?
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I see you have come around a bit Cali :D
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won't judge prematurely
But the secondary was the part of our defense that could have waited. How can these guys help us when there’s so much up front to be done?
by Rob4Braves on Apr 25, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're umping the gun fella
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
***Jumping***
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love "umping the gun"....
that’s a discusion for me and my wife though. MYOB ;)
by jaredstill on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope she loves umping the gun as much as you do...
LOL
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes let's all jump off the cliff
Jeeze dude, little premature there
by AllBroncsallday on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still have a third this year.
So it’s not over.
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
two thirds and i'm not talking fractions
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's going to be better than the Raider's safety
at least McD has the art of one upping Davis down.
Time to galvanize
by jack_ on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
lol
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I could pull that off
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
# 79 and # 84
Are looking like great spots to fill the DT holes??
Sleep like a baby tonight and let the force do its thing!
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:47 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
does the draft start earlier tomorrow??
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it does!
10 am eastern
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow…what a crappy day.
Nugs lose…and now this.
Honestly our first four picks yielded a RB and two DBs?
And we traded a 1st rounder next year for a 2nd rounder this year when we already had 10 picks?
Somebody talk me off the ledge ’cause this sucks.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 6:48 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If we aren't switching to a 3-4 we are looking really good.
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Apr 25, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see this as
We have the players on the current roster that will contribute right away in the 3-4, maybe they saw something in the mini camps that led them to believe that D-line was no longer an issue.
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 25, 2009 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe
they just see some really good value in the later rounds.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly, that's true
especially if, in the implementation of a 3/4 over 4-3, they found that their line was working out to be just fine as is.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
we still have lots and lots of pick PN
Have another sip and we’ll get ’em tomorrow. : )
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow…what a crappy day.
Whatever you do, don’t tune into FSN
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...that's not good.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fat one looks hungry.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Draftcountdown has McBath as the #6 safety
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 6:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
based on combine numbers.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
nationalfootballpost
has McBath as their 2nd best FS
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Wright's scouting report on McBath.
Strengths:
Adequate height and bulk…Very athletic…Great leaper…Smooth with fluid hips…Excellent range…Decent hands and ball skills…Is able to match up in coverage…Reliable tackler…Nice instincts…Smart…Hard worker…A team leader and captain…Productive…Tons of experience.
Weaknesses:
Has short arms…Not real strong…Needs to be more physical…Can be too aggressive at times…Isn’t a big hitter…Sub par run defender…Has trouble getting off blocks…Not really a playmaker…Bit of a ’ tweener ?
Notes:
A three-year starter for the Red Raiders…Began his college career as a cornerback…Redshirted in 2004…Broke his arm in the preseason and missed six games in 2005…Moved to safety in 2006 and started there the next three seasons…Named 2nd Team All-Big 12 in 2006 and 1st Team in 2008…Solid all-around player with a nice blend of physical tools and intangibles..Profiles as a starting free safety at the next level.
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 6:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
Dart board anyone?
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds pretty good to me
Maybe safety isn’t the most pressing need that we have, but it’s something that we all know will have to be addressed eventually. We’ve been ignoring it for years.
by Bobert on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least since Lynch got lynched.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even prior to Lynch's release we knew that he was getting old and needed to be replaced.
by Bobert on Apr 25, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed, good point.
we haven’t REALLY addressed the safety position in 4 years…probably more.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lots more
we haven’t seriously addressed the position int he draft since we took Atwater…
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 25, 2009 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1000000
sigh
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
short arms and poor run defense
concerns me a little
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Needs to be more physical, but is too aggressive?
Sounds like the DP wrote this.
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
that was a response for Jaffe28
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
My thought exactly!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
those aren't mutually exclusive
too aggressive indicates that he sometimes takes changes trying to make a play. Physicality refers to hitting, getting off blocks, etc.
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No they are not mutually exclusive and I agree
Just odd that the two descriptions were side by side… just joking around a bit with all this hot air blowing around…
For all the negativity I have seen I’ve put down my cup of kool-aid and have started drinking it straight from the punch bowl!!
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's see,
perhaps we can trade another 1st to move back into the 2nd rnd.
by captncrush47 on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
How about this...
We trade Champ Bailey and Eddie Royal for a 5th-rounder in 2023 and a plate of Otis Spunkmeyer cookies.
That would be consistent with today’s happenings.
by Rob4Braves on Apr 25, 2009 6:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
here we go again...
enough Rob.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously stop
some of these post are getting ridiculous
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax
I’m just bitter. I’m sure I’ll feel better about the picks in the morning. I just hope they’re 110% about the FAs to fix the defense.
by Rob4Braves on Apr 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie Royal?
You mean that wide receiver we drafted in Round 2 last year over DeSean Jackson?
That pick everybody HATED? Said that it was such a reach, etc?
That seemed to turn out pretty well. Why not give this draft a chance too?
by Shoemaker on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+100
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the guy SHANAHAN drafted?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Because it worked out poorly for NE. There is a reason that we are sitting here typing responses while the FO is making the picks.
Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw
by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not so bad.
Pair him at FS and Barrett at SS and we still need to have a front 7 to protect them, but we have our safeties of the future at least.
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow the browns took 2 wrs in round 2
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
they must not have faith in Edwards...
hmm
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
or they are going to trade him for
picks next year
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
possibly...
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
this just in
dr.pepper plus raspberry vodka = great first day!
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 6:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
dr. pepper + Vodka
-dr.pepper + barrel of whisky + crack + cocaine= my dissappointed draft day.jk of course
LET THE DRAFT BEGIN
by robbo650 on Apr 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like an Al Davis night to me. ;)
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I am al davis
LET THE DRAFT BEGIN
by robbo650 on Apr 25, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to drink Dr.Pepper and Rum
Now I have Cirrohsis of the Liver
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
by KaptainKirk on Apr 25, 2009 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ill keep that in mind
but i dont drink often
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Prob
not trying to break up the party
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
by KaptainKirk on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have taken William Moore over
Mcbath
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 6:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Mizzou fan
And I’ll be the first to tell you that Moore sucks. I would have rather had Sean Smith, but McBath is a good safety also.
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
HT said earlier that there's a reason Rey Rey fell so far, we're just not privy to it.
Perhaps this applies to Sean Smith, too.
"Space is Deep."
by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Mizzou fan
And I’ll be the first to tell you that Moore sucks. I would have rather had Sean Smith, but McBath is a good safety also.
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deja vu...
Must have been a glitch in the matrix.
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the scouting reports,
Moore over McBath is a no brainer if Moore regains his Jr. form. If he plays like he did as a senior they are comparable. Rashad Johnson has better intangibles but McBath is more athletic. It’s a reach but not a huge one. I think we are all going a bit nuts cause we didn’t have him on our radar here.
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 6:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
If William Moore
Plays like he did as a junior he will be a beast.
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Dallas is giving up next years draft for Braylon Edwards!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
what just happened?
anyone still paying attention
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I called it here!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
FYI I like our draft not a knock on our team, a knock on Dallas.
by Kfustud on Apr 25, 2009 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The stupid cowboys probably thought they still had 15 min
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahahah!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas is aquiring Braylon Edwards!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 6:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I need to wind the night down....
Good night everyone….
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Little, Wright, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
by Mike Clark on Apr 25, 2009 7:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
might need to put some vodka in that kool-aid
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The browns take their 3rd WR
in the 2nd round lol
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
night mike!
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
wow moala and gilbert are
still on the board
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I could see the Broncos trading up again before the day is done.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 7:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
when is the broncos next pick?
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Apr 25, 2009 7:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
about 11 am EST
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scheffler
What’s the word on him? Last I heard, he wasn’t expected to fit into the new system and was on the block. Is the plan for him to be on the roster in 2009?
by Rob4Braves on Apr 25, 2009 7:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's mostly opinion...
I say trade him.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would be the value for him?
I’m guessing a 2nd-rounder, but then again I’m not a GM.
by Rob4Braves on Apr 25, 2009 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd round...that's what I say too.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A guy I want in the third round:
Mitch King of Iowa. He’s a good 34DE and a defensive leader.
Also, if Gilbert and Moala fall that far I would take them in a heartbeat.
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I like King
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok guys...its been a blast!
Time to hang with my family…its only 3pm here. God bless you all!
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Apr 25, 2009 7:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Aloha!
Or wait, does that mean hello? Not sure I used the right emphasis.. ; )
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right.
Very deep draft. There weren’t a lot of ‘take me now’ players. Lots of depth, can’t wait for tomorrow.
Hillis in '09
by Emmett Smith on Apr 25, 2009 7:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
want to take a late round flyer on a smart safety?
Colt Anderson from Montana is one passionate dude.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
more DB's???
Somebody better know something that knowbody else does!!
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 7:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right - from this point forward - NO = KNOW
Just do not tell your English teacher
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
now we’re just getting punchy! : )
I’m just thinking late round or FA because the man has FIRE. And although the front seven is clearly where we need talent, we did need to get our Ss of the future.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fellow Griz fan here
Would LOVE to see that happen. I’m concerned that he’s a bit too undersized for the NFL, but I would definitely offer him a contract if he goes undrafted.
by Bobert on Apr 25, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Exactly how I feel. A lot of upside for a potential undrafted player. Instinctive, hard hitter, leader.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus he's from Butte, and I've known him since he was a kid!
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 7:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Onix something...
Wait, Onix?
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:10 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is there seriously a picture of a Pokemon on a football thread?
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't push me, or I'll bust out 50 more. :)
WE GOT MORENO!!!!
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I beat your Onix
Pikachu i choose you!
/Users/PFRA/Desktop/pikachu1.jpg.jpeg
by Kfustud on Apr 25, 2009 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pikachu is an electric type!!
Onix is ground. You can’t affect me!
WE GOT MORENO!!!!
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Poseidon's Fist on Apr 25, 2009 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still have a type disadvantage.
I’d go with a strong water-type there, like Blastoise.
WE GOT MORENO!!!!
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Magikarp!
errr… splash? Shoot.
Time to galvanize
by jack_ on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was that?
I couldn’t hear him.
I seem to have lost my future self.
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
how funny would it be...
if that fandemonium guy didn’t like the pick the vikes made and just announced the guy he wanted…what would the ruling be there?
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 7:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Like what would you do if you were told to announce the mcbrath pick...
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
id say my name.. hopefully id get PAID
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 7:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
now that would be awesome!
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fanda-whoium?
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:15 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
let me just say this to you
bolt was awesome lol
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
my daughter’s favorite movie. It’s hilarious!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
that dude that announced the vikes pick
won a monster.com contest to be the director of fandemonium…gets to announce a pick, i think do the coin toss at the london game…go to the pro bowl and stuff like that
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like a hell of a deal...
i saw the specials for it on NFLN.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I am all for trading down and getting more picks but then why do you use them all on WRs?
by Kfustud on Apr 25, 2009 7:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
totally off topic but......
who bought the wrestler??? i did
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 7:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It is obvious that the Broncos do not understand the draft
I can’t believe we traded a 1st rounder for at best a 2nd tier CB and pass on Sean Smith.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 7:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ur the one with the army of darkness quote lol
ive heard good things but never seen it
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great movie, cheesy but extremely funny.
I also recommend My name is Bruce.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 7:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
well im a tremors fan
so sounds like it suits me
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least you know what you're talking about.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LIVE MCDANIELS PRESSER AT DENVERBRONCOS.COM!
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Can I throw virtual tomatoes
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I’m sure he won’t mind. ^^
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't started yet but should soon.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
link
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=349&videoID=2816&type=broncosTV&year=&month=
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 25, 2009 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So here's what I'll hang on to here.
The Patriots have often confused the heck out of fans and experts with their picks. It’s because they pick the players to go in the system more than anything else. They’ve done well doing that.
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 7:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
These picks don't seem like system picks
They seem like desperation picks
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand this sentiment
Every one of our picks has been directed towards addressing a need.
by Bobert on Apr 25, 2009 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How
Did we have a need at RB? Seems like we have a stockpile of 4-3 DE trying to convert to OLB, why add another one. We signed a number 2 CB, why spend a 1st rounder next year on a marginal player. next year’s draft is loaded, this year’s is horrible. A marginal safety in a draft with no good safeties, yet pass on Sean Smith who would be a much better S/CB than who we picked. You don’t reach for need. I like Moreno, but he would of been there at 18 or you could get the same guy later in the 2nd round.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
and when is the rest of the country just gonna give up and go by east coast time
by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 25, 2009 7:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Where are you on the east coast?
I’m in upstate ny.
by captncrush47 on Apr 25, 2009 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
being a 21 year displaced Denverite;
i salute all the displaced Bronco fans!!
by captncrush47 on Apr 25, 2009 7:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
who
is the best 3-4 NT left on the board??
free special ed.
by Swissy14 on Apr 25, 2009 7:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the guy at Stillman
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pros and Cons
Pros:
All good players I’m sure.
Cons:
Alphonso Smith cost a first rounder
Moreno isn’t needed
McBath was a reach
by thisisbs on Apr 25, 2009 7:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
and our major position of need we did absolutely nothing to address.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
We traded up.
I love McD. He has some balls.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 7:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Here we go.
I sensed this was coming.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 7:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm a little afraid to find out what we gave up.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 7:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
WHOA!
they traded up!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We traded up?!
"Space is Deep."
by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 25, 2009 7:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
woah, wonder who we're going for
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
come on NT please
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I know, I thought we were done, here we goooooo....
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAt?
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Tony Scheffler is DONE
mark the words, he will be traded!
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
SOAB
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
you have got to be f’ing kidding me.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 7:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
A tight end that no one had on a mock draft!!!
OMG I hate this pick. LOL
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 7:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
McDaniels
I gotta say, they don’t listen to anyone else but themselves. They draft what they want and what they think is good. I like this as opposed to listening to the Mel Kiper’s of the world.
by Kfustud on Apr 25, 2009 7:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
These guys knew who they wanted and got them. If three of these guys can contribute, this draft is a home run.
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by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to second the following:
These guys knew who they wanted and got them.
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright,
it’s official; i need a vat of kool-ade
by captncrush47 on Apr 25, 2009 7:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Scott Wright's Scouting Report on Richard Quinn
Strengths:
Terrific size and bulk…Strong and powerful…Outstanding blocker…Is stout at the point of attack…Gets a good push in the run game…Able to fit in space…Understands leverage, positioning and angles…Adequate hands…Uses his frame well as a receiver…Real tough…A hard worker.
Weaknesses:
Lacks great timed speed…Doesn’t get much separation…Not a vertical threat who will stretch the field…Isn’t very elusive…Won’t do much after the catch…Is raw as a route runner…Extreme lack of production.
Notes:
Worked as a backup and special teamer as a true freshman…Missed the entire 2006 season with a broken shoulder blade…Took over a starting job in 2007 and 2008…Was hampered by a broken knuckle as a senior but played through it…Had another year of college eligibility available but he had already graduated and opted to go pro…Was not utilized much in the passing game, although the Tar Heels had three future pros at wideout…Profiles as a prototypical #2 tight end and a blocking specialist at the next level but should really excel in that role.
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 7:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG!
It’s the dawn of the dreaded 3-TE set! The great hoosierteacher hath foretold it!
Rawr!
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by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 25, 2009 7:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously where is Clark when you need him
Thanks for that Jaffe.
I don’t know. I can see the Belichek in McDaniels with his drafting style… except McD has a lot less experience
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
but I will give him a chance!!
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
FOR THE LOVE OF...
DEFENSIVE LINE!!!!!!!!!! MITCH KING!!! JARRON GILBERT!!!
sigh. Bye, Tony. Maybe we can still get King and Sammie Lee Hill tomorrow. I really, really don’t want to know what we gave up for him.
WE GOT MORENO!!!!
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Mayock likes him and thats good enough for me
He said the only reason he didn’t catch a lot was because there were 3 really good wrs on that team
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by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 7:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
are we taking all our cues from Mayock now?
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Guru, we gave up BOTH of our third rounders for him.
I do not like.
WE GOT MORENO!!!!
by papigrande on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
both of next years? ?
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
really? dang! im pissed
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Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!
by broncoboy on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope someone is mistaken here...
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
number 88 is to be traded...
my thoughts: he’ll be traded tomorrow by the 4th round.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
by Joe Medina on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
we better get atleast a third for the guy since we just traded our 3rds
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Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!
by broncoboy on Apr 25, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
what did denver give up for the pick????
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall
Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!
by broncoboy on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
sounds like 2 3rds
we gave up 2 3rds and first for this quinn guy and alphonso “i am 5’9”" smith
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
AWESOME
this day has gone according to plan
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...
All the people who foresaw a Quinn on the Broncos were right.
by Kfustud on Apr 25, 2009 7:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
well now we know why mcd was late for the presser...
he was busy trading up and making another pick
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by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 7:59 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Both our 3rd rounders to Pittsburgh.
by British Bronco on Apr 25, 2009 8:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
Both our thirds??? Wtf were we thinking!!! We better get a third for scheff
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by Elway4Prez on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 8:01 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
the whole draft of just this pick?
either way I side with you
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say let them play some games first
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by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nutbag, you crack me up.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quinn might be a young Graham
I think this is a very appropriate pick. when Graham starts to get tired in several years Quinn will be coached up and ready to slap LBs around
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
we need help now, not several years
good idea but what about the front seven
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
New system with new players in new positions. They must be more confident with it than you.
by Kfustud on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed...
might be appropriate if your team is in a position to worry about building depth for players in the twilight of their careers but I don’t think the Broncos are in that spot myself and I doubt I’m in the minority. They have much more pressing needs for help now.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly...does quinn help is in 2010, doubtful. He isnt
a better blocker than graham
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...that's a baffling pick.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true, and I am guessing we could of had him with our third rounder
These trades up are signs of panic in the Broncos organization, they better hope to hell these guys pan out, if I find out that we gave up a shot at Taylor Mays, Cody, or Spikes for these guys I am going to be pissed as hell.
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by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem trading up...
because we had too many picks.
But the players we traded up to get seem…let’s say…questionable.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 8:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
eisen said one 3rd
thats not so bad
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by TD4HOF on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would they trade a third for a second?
doesn’t make sense.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fail again, panic button is getting hit repeatedly
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 8:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You are the official panic button pusher.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
One..
we only gave up one 3rd round pick, according tonfln
by captncrush47 on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We're getting all these great guys for the secondary
But we won’t see the production from them – interceptions, etc. – if we don’t get more talent on the Dline to pressure the QB
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, 5 first day picks and we did absolutely nothing to address our DL (Ayers said he’ll be playing OLB)?
Not good…not good at all.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
see the guy we picked up at #18...
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
by ButteBronco on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ayers said in his presser that the Broncos gave all indications that he’ll play LB.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
two
NFL.com reports 2 thirds, but that we got a fourth back
by mast on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I got an espn update saying the same thing
But is it Pitt’s or someone else’s? Because if it’s Pitt’s, it’s essentially a fifth
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by Elway4Prez on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three marginal 2nd rounders for a 1st rounder and 2 3rd rounders
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"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
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by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll finish your sentence
why arent we addressing the front seven…what are we doing!!
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so much worried about that, I just see these as reaches that don't even address any needs
or look at long term goals, no way A. Smith is worth a 1st rounder next year, to think we probably passed on picking up Taylor Mays for basically a slower version of Jack Williams baffles me.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
by Broncoman on Apr 25, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
we lost leverage today with a guy like Mays, Sam Bradford, a top 5 pick etc for ALPHONSO SMITH. then we draft this quinn guy who is a good blocker…reaches reaches reaches is right
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
you said it best with a slower jack williams
we already got that player, we already go a te who can block in Daniel Graham, we got those guys…we have a tweener in Ayers. what are we doing to change things
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by irish1611 on Apr 25, 2009 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree.
looks to me like McD drafts a lot like shanny. Trading up for players we targeted even though we could very well get them where we pick anyway. We are definitely not maximizing the value of where we select. We could have gotten a player equivalent to A. Smith at 48 and I’m almost positive that Quinn would have lasted to our first third if we’d stayed put.
Trying to convince myself there is a good plan here but my initial reaction isn’t positive.
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's see
what things look like when the dust settles.
by captncrush47 on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
On a side note,
I guess we traded OUR 2010 first rounder for Alphonso Smith. I guess McD thinks we’ll do better than Chicago this year.. So… yeah… at least he is a believer
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We should have made it conditional!
Ex: Seattle gets the lower of our two first rounders next season
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by Elway4Prez on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, yes, this would have been much better. Why weren't you in their war room?! =)
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
something tells me....
confidence and a healthy ego are not things he’s lacking
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to believe
Do we even have legitimate starters on the front seven, at qb?
by thisisbs on Apr 25, 2009 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
om gosh espn can't stop talking about cutler it's all they do
"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"
by MikeD55 on Apr 25, 2009 8:13 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing I like about the high risk front office moves is
trading away so many high draft picks puts them on the spot. If they don’t get results it will be very easy to evaluate their personnel evaluation/acquisition skills. If their personnel skills are inadequate it will be easier to replace them. If they produce like they think they can, we will know very quickly and there will be more buy in for their techniques and proficiency.
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Apr 25, 2009 8:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey,
Just realized that I got Phil Loadholt to the right team. I just did it a round too early LOL
by jaffe28 on Apr 25, 2009 10:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael Mitchell-NEWS ...
Michael Mitchell-NEWS …
What the fuck is he doing?
Here:Michael Mitchell
by grag on Apr 26, 2009 3:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
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