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2009 NFL Draft Open Thread--College Free Agents

Get your votes in here for your favorite CFA's!!

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 2009 NFL Draft
Position Player
School Comments
DL  Everette Pedescleaux   Northern Iowa  6'6" 305lbs, transferred to a small program so he could get on the field and play.  I like that he made a name for himself forcing fumbles and blocking kicks.  Nice project.
 CB  Domonique Johnson Jackson State  6'2" 198lbs, athletic and confident, who got stuck with a tweener (S/CB) label.  had team highs in INTs and pass break ups his senior year.  Some injury concerns. 
 WR  Lucas Taylor  Tennessee 6'0 189lbs, this is a rebound player who has proven he can be coached and get better.  Had a poor senior season after rocking in 2007 with Ainge behind center, and suffered through injuries and academic problems.  Is he smart enough for McD's squad?  We'll soon find out. 
 WR Nate Swift   Nebraska 6'2" 203lbs, excellent blocker, great hands, runs good routes, and can line up at any WR slot from wide to inside, and be effective.  Has been diagnosed with a rare illness, but has been in remission since he was very young. 
 LB Lee Robinson   Alcorn State 6'2" 249lbs, He is a good tackler, reads plays well and is instinctual in following the play to the ball. Like WW, one of his strongest assets is keeping blockers away from his legs and keeping hands out of his frame, which leaves him free to make the tackle at the line of scrimmage. His open-field tackling could use work however, as he doesn't consistently break down but he shows a ton of hustle and is quick to congratulate teammates, making him a respected member of the team.  
NT   Chris Baker  Hampton 6'2" 326lbs, had charcter trouble so bad he had to go to a new school to start setting things right again.  Was he successful? We'll know soon.  I knew from the first time I kicked him off my board that destiny would bring us together again.  Can't say I like it.
 FB Marquez Branson  Central Arkansas  6'2" 247lbs, this is our Hillis clone, in case the unthinkable happens.  Good receiver, excellent blocker with plenty of pop, and has experience as a true H-back.  Not as supremely talented as Hillis, but a scrappy guy who will surprise any team that takes or faces him. 
  CB  Tony Carter  FSU 5'9" 179lbs, another player who is known for an aggressive, attack the ball style, and who was successful.  Can be bullied a bit, but is a firece competitor. 
 WR  Travis Shelton   Temple 5'9" 185 lbs, basically a pure return man who set the Temple record for return yardage.  Has an NCAA best 31.30yd KOR average. 
 WR  David Grimes   Notre Dame 5'10" 178lbs, experienced 4 year contributorwho played special teams for several years before being promoted to the starting offense where he got consistently better. As a return man averaged 22 and 25 yds in his freshman and sophomore seasons, respectively.
DE  Rulon Davis  Cal  6'5" 281, former marine who transferred to Cal and flashed explosive, athletic playmaking ability.  Emerged as a team leader quickly at Cal, and has a tough, no nonsense attitude. 
P/K   Britton Colquitt  Tennessee  6'3" 205lbs, 2nd coming of Todd Sauerbraun, Colquitt has had at least four alcohol related off the field incidents, including a DUI/fleeing the scene, which was his latest transgression.  Should be in ALANON, not O&B.

 

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Mitch King, Danell Ellerbe

Two that come to mind right now.

With the homer pick, I also like Bruggeman from Iowa…

by studbucket on Apr 26, 2009 5:29 PM MDT reply actions  

King,Bennett, and Mike Reilly

If not reilly, then harrell. i have a feeling McD will bring in another QB

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 5:31 PM MDT reply actions  

And Quan Cosby!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions  

cant wait

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2009 5:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Mitch King, Danell Ellerbe

and Quan Cosby would all be great

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 5:34 PM MDT reply actions  

+1

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

I can not believe

Jeremiah Johnson from Oregon did not get drafted either

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 5:36 PM MDT reply actions  

and Kory sheets

i had the broncos picking him!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who won the Draftivus Contests?????

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 5:38 PM MDT reply actions  

still scoring them

its gonna take awhile. I’ll announce a few winners later tonight!

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 5:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

he has issues

"according to the map, we've only gone 4 inches"

by MikeD55 on Apr 26, 2009 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Issues?

Can anyone tell me what they are? He looks like potential NT backup, but not if he cant pass McD’s character test.

by DCbroncfan on Apr 26, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

He has a problem beating other students up

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Who Cares CFA

are no risk, They can bring him in and if he does not turn our. Maybe not being Drafted will put a chip on his shoulder like it did with Woodyard

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Antonio Appleby

Styg was high on him.

Time to galvanize

by jack_ on Apr 26, 2009 5:39 PM MDT reply actions  

And Quan Cosby

can’t have too many WR’s in this offense.

Time to galvanize

by jack_ on Apr 26, 2009 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hey Steve O...

Remember, McD said he will go after as many as he can. he may have gone after Quan but if Quan says no then thats it!….thats whay after round 5 or 6 its good to UFA!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 26, 2009 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like Jon Cooper C from Oklahoma

as a CFA even though we drafted a G and C in the draft

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 5:42 PM MDT reply actions  

Top Five CFAs?

1. Mitch King, DE
2. Chris Baker, NT/DE
3. Phillip Hunt, OLB
4. Michael Taviliili, ILB
5. Mike Rivera, ILB

by Eyecore13 on Apr 26, 2009 5:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Schools

Iowa, Hampton, Houston, Duke, and Kansas, respectively.

by Eyecore13 on Apr 26, 2009 5:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I want Frantz Joseph

from ILB from Florida Atlantic

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

best guys I have

Beckwith***
King****
Ellerbe***
ogletree*
Gibson**
L.Robinson**
sheets**
pegues*
shipley*
passmore*
e.Williams*
fitzhugh*
faletoese*
corey smith*
Derek walker*
khalif mitchell**
and many more….

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 5:44 PM MDT reply actions  

appleby of course

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Shipley went to Pittsburgh, one pick after Schlueter

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Apr 26, 2009 5:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

good updates

I couldn’t keep up with everything else going on

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have

Mitch King
Chris Baker
Frantz Joseph
Antonio Appleby
Dannell Ellerbe
Mortty Ivy
Jon Cooper
Alex Boone
Michael Bennett
Khalif Mitchell
Quan Crosby

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 5:48 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Hypolite got snatched by the Jags :(

by BGBronco on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

How about Terrill Bryd out of Cincinnati 6 foot 286 pound

He is a bit undersized but he was productive in college

Overview
Byrd earned All-American and first-team All-Big East honors as a junior in 2007 after making 17 tackles for loss. The four-year starter was also first-team All-Big East in 2006 and second-team in 2008. He saw a decline in production as a senior, however, going from 56 tackles to 40 and making only six stops behind the line. Scouts know he’s still the same player, but his numbers dropped partially due to teams doubling him inside and also because of the emergence of other playmakers on Cincinnati’s defense.

Analysis
Positives: Durable widebody with very long arms. … Has good short-area quickness and excellent hustle. … Uses his low center of gravity to hold his ground against double teams, which he faced often. … Will rip across or punch his man and relentlessly attack the passer when blocked one-on-one. … Even when doubled, he continually pushes forward to get to the quarterback on pass plays. … Keeps active in short-yardage situations, works to help teammates stone the ballcarrier.

Negatives: Short, undersized and is a bit large through the middle. … Will find himself on the ground too much as he leans into his man. … Gets engulfed when facing drive-blocking linemen. … Must learn how to use his hands more consistently on pass-rush moves and to break away when head-up inside. … Inconsistent in his explosiveness off the snap. … Does not have the stamina to chase downfield on an every-down basis. … Suspension for first game of 2008 after marijuana citation raises a red flag teams will investigate further.

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 5:59 PM MDT reply actions  

Also Louis Ellis DE 6'2'' 315 College Shaw

Overview
Ellis signed with Mississippi State out of high school, but academics cost him a chance to play at the FBS level. He was dominant playing in Division II after two seasons at Hinds Community College, winning CIAA Defensive Player of the Year in 2007 and ’08, compiling 129 tackles (led his team in ’08 with 64), 43 tackles for loss and 16 sacks.

Even in Division II 43 Tackles for a loss and 16 sacks is impressive
Analysis
Positives: Good upfield quickness to pressure the quarterback or bring down backs behind the line of scrimmage. … Gets through double-team blocks, which he faced quite often given his production, and rips off man-on-man blocks with violent hands. … Can line up outside or inside. … Hustles making the play in the hole or down the line after disengaging. … Good quickness to chase ballcarriers downfield.

Negatives: Only adequate size and strength for an interior lineman, could be best as a Tampa-2 three-technique or a 3-4 defensive end. … Does not have the bulk to hold up against NFL double teams. … Must have better backfield awareness, runs himself out of plays. … Inconsistent motor. … Took advantage of lower level talent

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 6:02 PM MDT reply actions  

CFA wish list - Top 5

1. Mitch King, DE, Iowa, nonstop motor and reasonable talent
2. Chris Baker, DT, Hampton, need the beef in the middle
3. Antonio Appleby, ILB, Virginia, ditto we need size at ILB
4. Pierre Walters, OLB, Eastern Illinois (where he played DE), pass rush maniac with speed off the edge
5. Colt Anderson, S, Montana, remember special teams monster Tim Hauck? Go Griz!

by DCbroncfan on Apr 26, 2009 6:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Wait, when does this all happen?

"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno

Knowshon Moreno is the boss!

by stedtfeld on Apr 26, 2009 6:14 PM MDT reply actions  

it should be done and over with within hours

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice!

Draftivus is my favorite holiday :)

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Styg, I'm curious to hear your grades of our picks.

Your analysis of last year’s draft was what hooked me on this site. I remember checking back here after each of our picks so I could read your analysis and stories on each guy. I kept getting pretty pissed because you were taking so long (I only was giving you about 8 minutes of leeway, lol) but I loved your takes on the guys and that’s what kept me around on day 2.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll do a post draft expose

all in all I am plaesed, with a couple of questions, but not about our coaches or front office people: I have questions about the scheme, and how some of these players fit.s

What I like most is that this is a group of guys that we can root for, who won’t be begging money and time away from the team.

This draft made a staement about who the Broncos are now, and who they are going to be. I like it.

I am also going to grade myself for my draft coverage. I deserve to be soundly roasted for multiple unforgivable infractions….

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Must Gets

1. DJ’s younger brother, Worrell Williams ILB- Cal
2. Kory Sheets RB- Purdue (Could be a great backup to Knowshon)
3. Jordan Norwood WR- Penn State (Amazing slot reciever w/ great hands and route running)

by Broncosjf on Apr 26, 2009 6:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Just curious: will any site keep a listing of all of the UDFAs for all teams?

Looking from the college-side perspective, that’d make life a whole lot easier when trying to track where players go.

by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 6:56 PM MDT reply actions  

found this unconfirmed list

from here: http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2009/04/2009-undrafted-free-agent-signings-list.html

Last Updated: Sunday 8:03pm Central

AFC EAST
Patriots
S Marcus McClinton (Kentucky)

Dolphins
TE Jared Bronson (Central Washington)

Jets
TE Andrew Davie (Arkansas)
DL Matt Kroul (Jets)

Bills

AFC West
Chiefs
DE Pierre Walters (Eastern Illinois)

Chargers
LB Darry Beckwith (LSU)
OL Ryan McDonald (Illinois)

Raiders

Broncos

AFC North
Steelers
LS Mark Estermyer (Pittsburgh)
OT Ramon Foster (Tennessee)
S Derrick Richardson (New Mexico St.)

Ravens
QB Drew Willy (Buffalo)

Browns
WR Jordan Norwood (Penn St.)
Bengals

AFC South
Colts
DT Pat Kuntz (Notre Dame)

Jaguars
WR Jason English (Tuskegee)
CB Peter Ittersagen (Wheaton)

Texans
OT Jason Watkins (Florida)

Titans

NFC East
Giants

Eagles

Redskins
QB Chase Daniel (Missouri)
OT Scott Burley (Maryland)

Cowboys
WR Kevin Ogletree (Virginia)

NFC West
Seahawks

49ers
DE Pannel Egboh (Stanford)

Cardinals
WR Justin Brown (Hampton)

Rams
OG Roger Allen (Missouri Western)
OT Phil Trautwein (Florida)

NFC North
Bears
WR Eric Peterman (Northwestern)

Packers
WR Andy Brodell (Iowa)

Vikings

Lions
DT John Gill (Northwestern)

NFC South
Bucs

Falcons

Panthers
LB Anthony Heygood (Purdue)
QB Graham Harrell (Texas Tech)

by Leukadian on Apr 26, 2009 7:08 PM MDT reply actions  

Anybody interested in bringing in PJ Hill

Little risk for a very productive player

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:15 PM MDT reply actions  

Wow, just saw Jeriamiah Johnson was not drafted

There is a prority UFA to sign, that dude can play.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Don't see him listed on the NFL website, any other info

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Here's what SI says

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2009/draft/players/35028.html

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

I did find this

Pedescleaux was a third-team All-American selection last season, recording 62 tackles, 11 1/2 tackles for losses and 6 1/2 sacks.

He blocked six kicks at Northern Iowa, where he also played on the basketball team. The former Minnesota Mr. Basketball finalist averaged 20.1 points and 9.4 rebounds per game as a high school senior.

Pedescleaux has run the 40-yard dash in 4.88 seconds. He bench pressed 225 pounds 22 times in testing for NFL teams.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's some pretty good athleticism and production.

I like it. Small school player with big time talent. A++ for me, even though I have seen no tape. Lol, I am such a sheeple.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looks like he orginally played at Minnesota and then transferred

Not sure why he transfered (grades?).

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

It looks like he was recruited for basketball

coming out of HS also so he is probably very athletic

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

He was offered a Full ride to play Basketball

but went with football instead

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

True

I am sure he wished he grew to 6-9 or 6-10, he would likely be in the NBA by now. NBA loss will hopefully be our gain.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also sounds like injury

and concerns over coaches wanting him to gain weight.
http://minnesota.scout.com/2/394228.html

Ironic that he ended up at the same weight anyway.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

So much for the grades

Everette Pedescleaux, a talented two-sport athlete from Plymouth (MN) Robbinsdale Armstrong, was expected to make a big impression on the Gopher defensive line this season. However, after a shoplifting charge, he decided to leave the program and transfer to Northern Iowa.

Great a thief

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

Probably just a stupid decision

that alienated his coaches from him. I don’t think that is too much to be worrying about.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kinda like Tatum Bell?

Zing.

(Least favorite player of all time)

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

That was 4 years ago

Has he had any problems since then probably not

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought he would get drafted

I love the pick up

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Plenty of interest prior to draft

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/07/northern-iowas-pedescleaux-racking-up-nfl-miles/

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good size.

Glad to see a true 3-4 DL come to town. That made me a lot happier :D

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

THIS IS A FRICKIN GREAT PICK UP.....I AM STOKED....THIS GUY IS HUGE AND ATHLETCI......YES!!!!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 26, 2009 7:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

OMG, and Ian Johnson is still out there, there's two RB's that we should sign

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:18 PM MDT reply actions  

dont forget about kory sheets!!!!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 7:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Lots of quality RB fell through the draft

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'll just let some reporter or announcer butcher it first.

Then go from there.

No idea.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

get Quan Cosby McD!!!!!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 7:24 PM MDT reply actions  

get me King, Cosby, and Sheets(or another RB) and ill be happy

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 7:33 PM MDT reply actions  

my heart is broken :(

jk. then get me jerimiah johnson

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

scouting report anyone?

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Can't find anything

Was one of the faster players at the combine.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why did that not show up in a Google search

of Dominque Johnson, 2009 Draft prospect?

Weird

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

I know I tried google

then I tried Yahoo and something showed up

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Its a conspiracy

McDaniels & Nolan wanted no one to know about this kid.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eh, we have two quality QBs and an excellent project

How many do we need?

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

It does not hurt

to bring in more competition

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like Brandstater more than Hoyer

And we already have competition at the top.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Personally, re: FA RBs,

while there have certainly been some gems in free agency over the years and the Broncos lost a ton of RBs last season, I’d rather focus the free agent signings on whatever defensive positions we underdrafted on this draft. Still a lot of decent DE and DTs out there. Er, not that it’s either/or of course. Can never have too much depth in the running game. If Rashard Jennings hadn’t been drafted I would’ve been all over that one. ;-)

by underdog on Apr 26, 2009 7:39 PM MDT reply actions  

For those MT Griz fans here (I know there's a few on here)...

Colt Anderson is a Viking. I’m really happy for him, he’s an awesome kid. I was kind of hoping he’d go to Tenn. with the Jeff Fisher (Colt played alonside Jeff’s son @ MT) and Tim Hauck (current Titen’s DB coach and Colt’s former coach and former Grizzly great) connections.

"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley

by ButteBronco on Apr 26, 2009 7:40 PM MDT reply actions  

I guess Kubs called him personally right after the draft ended,

as did Childress and two other teams. He and his agent picked Minn though.

"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley

by ButteBronco on Apr 26, 2009 7:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

My top FA wish list

Mitch King,Khalif Mitchell and Michael Bennett. Also liked Beckwith who the Chargers signed.

by underdog on Apr 26, 2009 7:42 PM MDT reply actions  

The idea of us signing one or more FA RB's seems comical

We can take a practice squad guy, but that’s it.

Time to galvanize

by jack_ on Apr 26, 2009 7:43 PM MDT reply actions  

did mitch king not declare or something? lol

Domoinique johnson is a great find. ANother guy that attacks the ball, had 14 pass break ups in limited time alst year, was 20th in the nation for disrupting passes, even though he missed a little time with a knee injury. Broncos are getting him on the upswing….

Man it is SOOOO clear what kinds of DBs Denver wanted, I wish I had known before the draft!! :) I want to redo my whole board…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 7:46 PM MDT reply actions  

He's probably contemplating a few offers

Rumor on Quan Crosby is he’s considering Bengals and Rams

by Leukadian on Apr 26, 2009 7:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

what about the broncos!?!?!!?!?!

cmon get this guy mcX

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Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 7:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lucas Taylor, WR Tennessee

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:46 PM MDT reply actions  

this is confirmed

any word on shelton confirmed?

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 7:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

so the people on the post we have signed?

Pedescleaux and Johnson? i had us taking Pedescleaux in the 7th

LET THE DRAFT BEGIN

by robbo650 on Apr 26, 2009 7:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Lucas Taylor, WR Tennessee also

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

you would think

NFL.com or ESPN would have a tracker for this kind of stuff

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 7:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Makes too much sense to happen

Would be nice though.

I feel like Magnum PI or something.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

soo styg if i had Pedescleaux in my mock

and we signed him undrafted does that count? I dont think it matters cause he the only one i got right

LET THE DRAFT BEGIN

by robbo650 on Apr 26, 2009 7:55 PM MDT reply actions  

You'll get a special mention as

the “Guy who called Pedescleaux” ;)

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

I caled him too robbo!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 26, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should work for ESPN!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????

by boydy2669 on Apr 26, 2009 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Shelton is an interesting dude

I have him in my notes as “KR only” as in, I didn’t think he would play WR in the league. I don’t remember him at all….

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 7:56 PM MDT reply actions  

no confirmation yet

just a post to the KFFL.com forum thread

by Leukadian on Apr 26, 2009 7:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

fiddlesticks

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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

at least we get Pedescleaux

LET THE DRAFT BEGIN

by robbo650 on Apr 26, 2009 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

sorry, this rumored

only seen in a forum thread. not confirmed by MSM

by Leukadian on Apr 26, 2009 8:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

its confirmed now

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Darn

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

where is it confirmed Styg

do you have a good link

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kyle Bell signed with the Jags

Good P/U for the Jags

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"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 7:59 PM MDT reply actions  

I'd be a fan of Hypolite

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by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looks like he signed with the Jags

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

They're just signing up everybody.

That’s like 9 so far.

Did they not have any draft picks? Jeez

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by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

I actually like Nichols better than George, but both fell off this past year

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just have a soft spot for all CU players

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by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

let him rock #30

from bulldog to bulldog, without any consideration for hype…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn the 49ners got

Alex Boone I wanted him

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:00 PM MDT reply actions  

Draft grades

on ESPN Sports Nation, vote for the grade you’d give each AFC West team’s draft:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/poll/index?pCat=46&sCat=373

I gave Denver a B, Raiders an F, KC a B, San Diego a C.

by underdog on Apr 26, 2009 8:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Ian Campbell (has he been signed)

I think he would be worth a flier

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:01 PM MDT reply actions  

He wasn't drafted

Also available Jeremaih Johnson – Oregon

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Did everyone notice that

that San Diego got Darry Beckwith? he will quite literally be their woodyard next year…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:03 PM MDT reply actions  

yea I noticed

that sucks he is a good player

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't see it

If they played a 4-3 then maybe, but I don’t see where he fits in a 3-4

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

How about we sign Leroy Hill!!!!

franchise tag was taken off by SEA

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 8:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Where would you play him (inside or outside)?

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

where ever McD thinks he would fit

i think he could do well in both

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just see a logjam at OLB, and not sure Hill would fit as an ILB in a 3-4 scheme

But I haven’t seen that much of him, just knew he was a good 4-3 OLB.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

He's not going to fit in on the east coast.

lol, I met him, and he’s a total redneck. I would have thought the Rams or someone would have taken him.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 8:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Saw that

I think people are under estimating him, I see him like a Doug Flutie type, he is going to be a pain to keep on the bench but likely never be a great starting QB.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

they already have Colt Brennen and Jason Campbell!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 26, 2009 8:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nothin wrong with rednecks LOL

I was glad someone gave him a chance. I actually wanted us to get him as an insurance policy…..

by Broncotodd on Apr 27, 2009 7:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

I am Pissed King

went to the Titans

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:13 PM MDT reply actions  

Though disappointed we didn't get him..

…I’m happy he landed with the Titans. If I have a second favorite team Jeff Fisher’s is it.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

SDSU WR...

Okay, so since I’m from Sioux Falls, I’ll make a pitch for a local. JaRon Harris; WR, South Dakota State. 6’1" 200 lbs, and he ran a forty in under 4.4 seconds. He is a good receiver, and would be worthy of a shot at the squad I think. Any word on him? I graduated with his wife…

by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 26, 2009 8:13 PM MDT reply actions  

Is this right?

Or is it backwards?

Lions acquire a sixth-round pick (No. 174: Tom Brandstater) from the Broncos in exchange for a seventh-round pick (No. 235: Zack Follett) and a fifth-rounder in 2010

Trade List

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Apr 26, 2009 8:14 PM MDT reply actions  

That's what we traded to the Lions to select Brandstater

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

OK

That’s what I thought. Stupid CBS.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Apr 26, 2009 8:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Backwards

We gave the Lions our 5th rounder 2010 and the 7th rounder Follett (underrated guy, I was hoping he would be available as UFA)

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

jeez this site never sleeps

haha but i love it … and i guess i wont sleep either

by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 26, 2009 8:17 PM MDT reply actions  

Was Lucas Taylor Injured in 2008

Looks like his production dropped a bunch, I am assuming due to injury, or maybe because the Vols sucked in 2008.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:18 PM MDT reply actions  

No it was mostly due to poor QB play at Tennessee

Went from the solid college QB of Erik Ainge to Johnathan Crompton who played very poorly. And then Nick Stephens who was only marginally better.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

and they couldn't decide who to use either

incosnistency under center helps no one. On a related note, I hope we figure out who is starting VERY early on in the process…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

It went way beyond poor QB play.

I’m at school there; 2008 was the season from Hades.

by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

See I'm a huge Gator fan

so I’ll only call it poor play cause it was nice to watch from my perspective.

But yeah it was pretty sad.

On a semi-related note I think Eric Berry is a much, much better safety than Taylor Mays. I love watching him play.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, the QB play was certainly poor.

But we’re getting more and more info that the problems went beyond Crompton.

by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 8:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Such as............?

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Was writing that up.

It’s in a comment further down. I tried to distill it to the necessary basics, but in effect the offense was too difficult to learn in one offseason. We think it works very well after a year or two of practice, but that was a luxury that Fulmer and Clawson did not have.

by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah I just read that

Huh, I didn’t know that about Clawson’s offense.

How does everyone stay on the same page? Even with two WRs that’s a possibility of 6-8 different routes. No wonder the QBs looked indecisive and threw a lot of balls to nowhere. What a strange thing to do with inexperienced QBs.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

At least they have a experienced starter in Sheehan

Maybe that’ll help.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Berry reminds me of watching Steve Atwater in his prime.

At least in the hitting department. The posture and the way he hits are very similar.

by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

I view him as an Ed Reed quality playmaker

He’s an absolute joy to watch play.

Just exceptionally skill all around

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

True.

And to be honest, I really enjoy Tebow’s play. It’s unfortunate that ESPN feels the need to canonize the guy.

by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah it gets to be a little much

but he is a great role model.

I worry what might happen if a ding ever appears in his armor though.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also looks like Taylor was a HS QB, I am guessing he may get some

looks as a Wildcat QB, provided he can make the team.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 26, 2009 8:20 PM MDT reply actions  

4 WR sets

Brandon Stokley just had his 10th concussion in 9 seasons.

No deep threat.

Also Chad Jackson was released because he had issues learning NEs playbook under McDaniels. Tough break for him, unless he suddenly figures it out.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

8 Games in need of a new starter?

With Marshall potentially getting suspended for 8 games, that leaves a lot to be desired beyond Royal and Stokes. And someone has to get significant minutes.

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Apr 26, 2009 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah that too.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

I do not see Marshall getting Suspended

now though. I think they would have done it before the draft

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

say what?

i thought he was in the clear?

by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 26, 2009 8:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

he probably is

of course, every time we say that….

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha yeah

lets hope he keeps his arm out of near by TVs

by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 26, 2009 8:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Filling in a little detail on Lucas Taylor.

I blog at Rocky Top Talk (Tennessee’s SBN site) and am in grad school in Knoxville, so I can provide a little bit of info. Taylor’s a solid wide receiver and would have probably been a mid-late rounder if last year’s season had gone decently for the Vols. However, 2008 was the first year for offensive coordinator David Clawson, who brought in a West-Coast system. That system completely baffled the offense for most of the year and ended up being the final straw that made the fan base apathetic, leading to Fulmer’s termination as head coach.

Clawson’s system relies heavily on presnap adjustments by every offensive player. For example, the WRs have 3 to 4 alternate route calls for every single play. At the college level, that’s a lot to handle and most of Clawson’s former teams required 2 years to get the hang of it all. Unfortunately, the staff never informed anybody that it would take so long to build the offense, opting instead to tell us that all was well. And all was not well.

With UT’s offensive players, it’s a little better to evaluate 2008 from a physical perspective than a mental one. Nobody was running the offense well that year because nobody had it down. The offensive line was horrible and the WRs didn’t know what routes to run half the time.

I’m not going to endorse Taylor too heavily; I’m too vested into the kid and would rather let you form your own opinions. But look up press quotes from him and tie them to his metrics and his pre-2008 performances to get a handle on him. Those should be better gauges.

by David Hooper on Apr 26, 2009 8:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Damn looks like the Bengals

got Quan Crosby

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:34 PM MDT reply actions  

B+ Overall, according to Rotoworld.

Denver Broncos
Grade: B+

Quantity was just as important as quality for a team with so many roster holes. Denver gave up a ton to acquire five picks in the first two rounds and ten overall. But they got quality with the best running back in the draft (Knowshon Moreno), the best 3-4 outside linebacker prospect (Robert Ayers), and a nice value in second-rounder Alphonso Smith.

Giving up a first-rounder for Smith, however, gets Denver marked down. Sixth-round prospect Tom Brandstater is no Jay Cutler, though. If Cutler’s unnecessary trade counted in this grade, we’d give Denver an F.

-Rotoworld

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Apr 26, 2009 8:40 PM MDT reply actions  

why are they so fixated on that trade?

I swear I didn’t bat an eye when I heard the terms… the dude is a first round talent!

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ball Hawk, and a Tackler

Despite his size, he is one of the best ball hawks in the HISTORY of college football. We all know Denver needs some help creating turnovers.

"Some guys got drafted and they ain't played football in 15 years and I'm still waiting to get drafted. I'm still waiting to hear my name." -Rod Smith

by The Heat on Apr 26, 2009 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

If you had to suffer through the ESPN draft broadcast

cause you’re poor like me and don’t have NFLN you’d know why the MSM is hung up on “franchise QBs”.

From what I understand, there is very little point in having talent at any other position than QB.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh you meant the first round trade?

My bad.

Partly because they view it as part of the Cutler deal for whatever reason. So they think we just downgraded from 2 first to a first and a second.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

both of your comments apply

I think. So glad I have nfln. Off topic, I have NFLN on cable…is that odd? I heard they wern’t on cable,a dn was surprised to find I had it. (just moved.)

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought it was just a problem with Comcast

From my understanding you can get it on cable with Cox down here in Arizona.

Not sure though. Never thought much beyond basic. :-(

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

ahh

makes sense.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

wayyyyyy off topic

what the hell does ESPN stand for?

LET THE DRAFT BEGIN

by robbo650 on Apr 26, 2009 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

entertainment sports network?

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

plus many other funny ones I'm sure...

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Experts Spewing Plenty of Nonsense

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

ya thats probally it

entertainment sports programming network

LET THE DRAFT BEGIN

by robbo650 on Apr 26, 2009 8:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

why couldn't it just be SPN?

they try to hard to entertain me.

please, fellas, jus tlet me watch thegame. I’ll PAY you to let me watch the game!

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

I love the mute button

Turn on the game. Turn on some rock music. Sit back and enjoy.

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't have the privelege of living in Denver

but my dad talked about how he used to turn on the radio and mute the TV. Perfect broadcasts every time!

I never thought of watching a game to music…. Damn that is a fine idea! It’ll be like a highlight package!

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Estimate, Speculate and Postulate Network

I like the above too though^

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

sure...but

all things being equal, a 2-gap 3-4 end shoudl be bigger, due ot the laws of physics. However, physics also say that leverage can move the world with the right situation, so obviously, a lot more goes into it.

Ayers is a perfect example of a sound technician putting to shame the notion of “size matters”. You will enjoyu watching him and comparing him to guys like Thomas and Powell in your quest for understanding.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

good

ive been waiting for someone to come along and disprove those pesky laws of physics

by BroncoJoe311 on Apr 26, 2009 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

they are pesky, aren't they

Holding us DOWN! Revolution! Right on! Left off!

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Damn seattle got

Michael Bennett Texas A&M, i wanted him too

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:45 PM MDT reply actions  

I am surprised they

have not signed any local guys from CU or CSU

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 8:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Damn, Mike Reilly went to the Steelers

On a side note, the Jags have now signed 18 UFAs. Spit wads at the wall or simple greed?

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden

by Randall15 on Apr 26, 2009 8:59 PM MDT reply actions  

I think that is it guys

I’m out, to go grade draftivus contest entries!

Keep it real.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 9:00 PM MDT reply actions  

It looks like the Broncos...

also got Alcorn State linebacker Lee Robinson, according to the Denver Post.

by Kapiti on Apr 26, 2009 9:10 PM MDT reply actions  

WOW!

13-18 UFA’s? I can’t wait to hear who we signed tomorrow.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

John Mobley's school

"I told him (Montrae), don't worry, you'll pass out before you die" -- Rick Tuten

by littletinybroncos on Apr 27, 2009 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Here's the dope on Lee

Height: 6-21/4 | Weight: 249 | 40-Time: 4.78
Lee Robinson | Alcorn St. Braves
Official Bio

Stars
Strengths:
Good height and bulk…Above average athleticism…Decent speed with a burst to close…Does a great job in pursuit…Has a fantastic motor…A good pass rusher…Durable…Hard worker…Team leader…Productive.

Weaknesses:
Did not play against top competition…Average strength…Has some trouble taking on and shedding blockers…Will miss some tackles…A little stiff and doesn’t change directions well…Still raw as a technician.

Notes:
Won the Mississippi state titles in both the long jump and triple jump as a prep…Was a four-year starter for the Braves and never missed a game…Played both outside and middle linebacker in college…Named 1st Team All-SWAC as a senior…Top small school sleeper who could project outside or inside in either a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme…Definitely has some physical tools to develop and might be worth a late round flyer.

"I told him (Montrae), don't worry, you'll pass out before you die" -- Rick Tuten

by littletinybroncos on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Has fantastic motor A team leader Nice

"I told him (Montrae), don't worry, you'll pass out before you die" -- Rick Tuten

by littletinybroncos on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

He sounds Legit

He could play OLB or ILB in our 3-4. Looks like he just needs some good coaching because I have read a lot about how Athletic he is. He Stood out at the Texas Vs Nation Game. Sounds a lot like WW

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

More Athltic than Raji and Brace amd just as big Boom or Bust--I'm totally psyched

"I told him (Montrae), don't worry, you'll pass out before you die" -- Rick Tuten

by littletinybroncos on Apr 26, 2009 10:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Here's the dope on Baker

6’2 326 40 time 5.03 Hampton College
Official Bio

Stars **
Strengths:
Excellent size and bulk…Long arms and big hands…Very athletic with good speed and quickness…Gets off the snap well…Stout at the point of attack…Shows the ability to take on and shed blockers…Gets good penetration…Offers positional and schematic versatility…Productive.

Weaknesses:
Has run into trouble off-the-field and character is a concern…Average strength and power…Poor stamina…A questionable motor…Marginal instincts and awareness…Is not really a great pass rusher…Not fluid and his range is limited..Dominated a low level of competition in 2008.

Notes:
Began his college career at Penn State…Redshirted in 2005…Worked as a reserve in 2006 before taking over a starting job in 2007…Was arrested twice in 2007 on felony charges in connection with two fights and ultimately dismissed from the Nittany Lion football team…Landed at Hampton and had a fantastic 2008 campaign as a defensive end in the Pirates 3-4 defense, earning 1st Team All-MEAC honors…Opted to enter the NFL Draft after his junior season…Some feel he is a good kid who just got embroiled in a couple of bad situations…Could project to defensive tackle or defensive end and can play in either a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme…Future looked very promising before his college career was derailed…Extremely talented player with the physical tools to excel at the pro level as long as he keep can his head on straight..Boom or Bust.

"I told him (Montrae), don't worry, you'll pass out before you die" -- Rick Tuten

by littletinybroncos on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think Nolan

will get the best out of him and he will make the team along with Everette Pedescleaux

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

Source?

I’m unable to figure out where all of these signings are being reported

by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 26, 2009 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Pats got Antonio Appleby from Virginia

One of the guys I wanted

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 9:50 PM MDT reply actions  

CB Tony Carter (FSU) to the Broncos

another CB. This is getting a little crazy.

by Leukadian on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 PM MDT reply actions  

Source?

Not sure where you saw this…I’d like this thread that everyone seems to have. Also, we only had five CB’s on the roster prior to the draft

by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Its all good, these guys do not cost that much

and if they turn our to be good players we get them for really cheap. Remember our 4 starting DB are on the wrong side of 30

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Also we have Champ and Dawkins

who are good mentors for young DB. That probably draws them to Denver because these guys get to sign with whoever they want

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

he is small though

only like 5’8 or 5’9

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

oh and

Carter had nine interceptions at FSU and yielded just five touchdown passes in his college career. He started in 49 of 51 games. Only five TDs allowed in 51 games is impressive even if he is small. His size is probably why he did not get drafted

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Very nice.

With all these CBs I would not mind if we traded Champ for a first or second next year…

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

also

CBS Sports http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/11653387/rss

Has him as one of their sleepers

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

list of CFAs so far

Here’s a listing from MUG over at Bronco Country.

1. DE Everette Pedescleaux (Northern Iowa)
2. CB Domonique Johnson (Jackson State)
3. WR Lucas Taylor (Tennessee)
4. WR Nate Swift (Nebraska)
5. FB Marquez Brandon (Central Arkansas)
6. LB Lee Robinson (Alcorn State)
7. DT Chris Baker (Hampton)
8. CB Tony Carter (FSU)

I’ll comment in another post responding to this one.

by Colinski on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 PM MDT reply actions  

Anyone know anything about Marquez Brandon?

Is he a true fullback like Pinnock or an H-Back like Hillis?

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Seems like Tony Scheffler. Wonder if he gets hurt a lot and how his blocking is.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

excellent blocking

better than hillis. Good receiver, not as good as Hillis, though maybe more experienced route runner.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Found something: According to ESPN

Marquez Branson caught 45 passes for 737 yards and 11 TD’s last year. Sounds like more toys for Kyle Orton and a Hillis clone. Good size though at 6’2, 247. No word yet on his blocking.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

just a quick comment before my original post falls out of frame

I think it’s odd that Pedescleaux and Baker were often picked in our MOCKs. I really like Robinson, too, from what I’ve heard of him. D. Johnson had dropped after rising up to around a 3rd rounder but falling like a stone since then. There’s some tools there but concerns to go with them. If he turns out to be a good character than he might do well with coaching. And intriguing physical talent, for sure.

by Colinski on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

+1 I really

like all 4 of those guys. They were rated higher but slipped for some reason and we get them for cheap

by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Branson, I should have corrected MUG's misspelling

I look at him as one of the CFA plums. We’ve (at least I have) written on him but I don’t know where those posts are.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/Marquez-Branson.php

by Colinski on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 PM MDT reply actions  

I think he'll be at FB, competition for Hillis

And I think there’s an opening, too, that’s if we carry 7 (5 RBs + 2 FBs).

FBs just aren’t worth much nowadays. That’s why Hillis could be had with a 7th last year, even though he was taken late. Nobody takes FBs early anymore, they’re getting like kickers. They just acquire them through free agency.

by Colinski on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looks like a former ACL tear

Could be a classic example of a high motor- low talent guy, especially with regards to his blocking. I like the pickup for competition reasons, but I seriously doubt he will make the team.

WE GOT MORENO!!!!

by papigrande on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

He may not Papi

I wouldn’t dismiss his talent level though, there’s lots of talented players who just don’t ‘do’ blocking. He’s not a terrible blocker though, just average — according to Wright.

Think of this, Scott says he’s “extremely versatile.” Sound like something we’ve heard before?

by Colinski on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Marquez Branson (TE) NFL.com

Height: 6’2"
Weight: 247
College: Central Arkansas
Conference: Southland
Hometown: Starkville, MS
High School: Starkville High School

Combine Results:
40 Yard Dash : 4.71 seconds
Bench Press : 22.0 reps
Vertical Jump : 35.0 inches
Broad Jump : 109.0 inches

Positives: Stout frame with room for additional growth. Good initial quickness off the snap. Athletic enough to gain a free release off the line and to shake linebackers to gain separation. Secure receiver who looks the ball into his hands. Can take a shot and maintain possession. Good speed to challenge the seam. Surprisingly physical at the point of attack as a run blocker. Gets a good initial pop and will battle for position.

Negatives: May have to make the transition to H-back or fullback at the next level due to his lack of preferred size and strength. Has no experience as a traditional fullback. Good effort, but only marginal overall strength as a blocker. Level of competition a concern. May struggle with a complicated playbook.

by BroncoKO on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 PM MDT reply actions  

struggle witha complicated playbook?

I wouldn’t worry about that. He was memorizing receiver routes, so he has some smarts…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

Looks like a good list for competition

I think that those who thought that McDaniels was just smoke-screening when he said he wanted competition are in for a rude awakening. He meant it as I can see from this list of CFA’s

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 PM MDT reply actions  

I like some of these guys so far

Except for the guys with character issues.

"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno

Knowshon Moreno is the boss!

by stedtfeld on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 PM MDT reply actions  

True

"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno

Knowshon Moreno is the boss!

by stedtfeld on Apr 27, 2009 6:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nate Swift can also return punts.

Elusive speed and quickness… was used effectively in the West Coast Offense that Callahan brought with him to the Huskers.

Super stoked the guy is getting a shot! Think McCaffrey!

My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.

by Blackshirt4Broncos on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 PM MDT reply actions  

well add it to the 20 for a starting position

not too bad

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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I need to say

I think we will have a little LESS of a drive for CFA’s. Not a whole lot but Shanny had a history of raiding the CFA’s while NE does very limited CFA’s. we will see how this works

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2009 11:36 PM MDT reply actions  

We're talking about players (in some cases) that many of us were putting as mid-rounders in our MOCKs

We (many people here) wanted to see them drafted, and often pretty high, too.

The odd thing is that many disgruntled members would have been happy(ier) if we had only drafted a NT & DE. Now we’re doing even better; we’re signing them as FAs. There’s a hint of ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ here, although I’m not pointing the finger at you, J T. I’m just happy we finally got them.

by Colinski on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

this haul seems more in line

with the community thoughts for sure. A couple of two star guys in there for me….

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree

I am falling in line I mean there are a few I want but the ones I see us signing would still leave me scratching my head with the exception of one move during the draft:

New England drafted Ron Brace

This sold me on our draft. Wilfork is in his last year of his contract. Brace comes in learns and when the negotiations come in NE can put their offer on the table knowing that the heir apparent is in place if Wilfork walks.

 Now apply that to:

Champ Bailey and Alphonso Smith
Daniel Graham and Richard Quinn
Ben Hamilton and Seth Olsen
Brandon Marshall and Kenny McKinley
Kyle Orton and Tom Brandstater
Casey Weigman and Blake Schleuter (though this is still more depth)

It might not be the type of draft some of us were desiring, but I like it and the philosophy behind it. Add to that the fact that all these guys can contribute on special teams and pull guys like Bailey/ Royal et al off of the ST roster.

I am stoked bring of the CFA’s

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 27, 2009 1:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Will be interested to hear what the contracts amounted too...

Baker and Robinson as well (and especially) as Carter all seem to have been competed for in that department.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 PM MDT reply actions  

UPDATE!!!!

Here’s the new list with a few more additions.

1. DE Everette Pedescleaux (Northern Iowa)
2. CB Domonique Johnson (Jackson State)
3. WR Lucas Taylor (Tennessee)
4. WR Nate Swift (Nebraska)
5. FB Marquez Brandon (Central Arkansas)
6. LB Lee Robinson (Alcorn State)
7. DT Chris Baker (Hampton)
8. CB Tony Carter (FSU)
9. WR Travis Shelton (Temple)
10. WR David Grimes (Notre Dame)

by Colinski on Apr 27, 2009 12:12 AM MDT reply actions  

ONE MORE UPDATE

1. DE Everette Pedescleaux (Northern Iowa)
2. CB Domonique Johnson (Jackson State)
3. WR Lucas Taylor (Tennessee)
4. WR Nate Swift (Nebraska)
5. FB Marquez Brandon (Central Arkansas)
6. LB Lee Robinson (Alcorn State)
7. DT Chris Baker (Hampton)
8. CB Tony Carter (FSU)
9. WR Travis Shelton (Temple)
10. WR David Grimes (Notre Dame)
11. DE Rulon Davis (California)
12. P/K Britton Colquitt (Tennessee)

Rulon Davis

Davis has an interesting story, if you haven’t heard about. I wish him the best.

by Colinski on Apr 27, 2009 2:39 AM MDT reply actions  

he won't last

I hope we quickly forget about him…

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 27, 2009 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Don't know if this is what you meant, but I read the notes in the link you provided.
Graduated from high school in 2001 but then served in the Marines for more than three years and was deployed in Iraq…Played at Mt. San Antonio Junior College in 2004…Redshirted in 2005 after an accident in which his legs were run over by a semi…Transferred to Cal in 2006 and played in 6 games before his season was cut short by illness and injury…Started 3 games in 2007 but once again had his season derailed by injuries, this time to his foot and knee…Started 7 times in 2008 but missed give games with a broken foot…Will be 26-years-old as a rookie…Interesting prospect with the ability to be a left defensive end in a 4-3 defense or possibly even a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme.

I wish him the best, too.

"Upon the instruments of death, the sunlight brightly gleams."

by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 27, 2009 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

re: Davis

He was featured in a segment on the NFL channel. Both his military service and the accident in which he was run over by a semi trailer make him an interesting story.

BTW — I have one more name: Stanley Bryant OT

I hope to see these names confirmed by the Broncos in the near future.

by Colinski on Apr 27, 2009 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

I like Davis, I think he is destined for the Practice Squad

But I think in three years he has a chance at getting some playing time

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness

by Broncoman on Apr 27, 2009 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

thanks for the long vigil Colinski

the post and chart has been updated. And I’ll pass on Colquitt.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 27, 2009 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

I have to wonder

did the Broncos ask Ayers about Colquitt??

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 27, 2009 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

What's the strong dislike for Colquitt?

Not saying I’m a fan, just wondering why you’re adamant that we ditch him asap?

by A.J. Haefele on Apr 27, 2009 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

sauerbraun part deux

DUI hit and run… and that was his FOURTH infraction, not his first. He has a serious problem and it is getting worse.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 28, 2009 12:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Swift has the same disease

that “the fridge” is being afflicted by right now.

by Sneaky Sean on Apr 27, 2009 6:33 PM MDT reply actions  

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