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Stefan Fatsis on the Cutler solution

I have been following this site for over a year but haven't posted until now.  The whole Jay Cutler saga has been an enigma to me since it began.  The statements from both camps changed often, were contradictory to each other, and frankly never made sense.  I always figured the truth would come out sometime after this was all water under the bridge.  Well I just saw an article from Stefan Fatsis , erstwhile writer/kicker for the broncos, in the NY Times that has the first explanation that makes sense.  I suggest you check it out.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/03/stefan-fatsis-on-jay-cutler/

 

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Great piece...

I agree with a lot of this. It’s going to be really, really interesting to see whether Cutler can ever truly take advantage of his physical gifts, and lead a team deep into the playoffs. If I had to bet it, I’d say no….

"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason." ---Shanny to Marcus Thomas...

by Broncs Cheer on Apr 3, 2009 12:54 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Excellent article!

a must read, and a refreshing new perspective…. too bad this didn’t come out earlier; perhaps it would have helped moderate some of the debate. Rec’ed!

"I'm going to the head, to do something productive. It's a little project I've been working on...."

by BornOrange on Apr 3, 2009 1:35 PM MDT reply actions  

thanks for the heads up

I loved Fatsis’ book, and I love this insider perspective.

"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King

by batgirl on Apr 3, 2009 1:35 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice Post

I enjoyed reading Fatsis’ book and even went to a reading by him. He makes good points about Cutler’s attitude. He probably does need an adjustment, although it’s never seemed to me that it’s an insurmountable flaw—more just some growing up to do.

My take on Fatsis’ book though, was that he wasn’t a true insider and as a journalist/writer you’ll always like the guys who give you the stories. Don’t forget, too, that this was Cutler’s rookie year. He had a hell of a lot more things to deal with than any player on the team, so I wonder if he just was trying to concentrate on his new life adjustments… and learning a complex offense. Great stuff though.

We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur.—Al Gore

by oxmouth on Apr 3, 2009 1:40 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree

he wasn’t a true insider. And I am sure most of his inside info came from 3 or 4 people that he developed a lasting relationship with like Nate Jackson et al. The thing that I found most interesting in the book was how different the media spin was from what actually happens within the locker room. Case in point

by jayrocksd on Apr 3, 2009 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jezru

will find out all about the fatsis takes during his… um… reading time.

i’d like to see fatsis do an entire book on todd sauerbraun. that dude’s a piece of work.

We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur.—Al Gore

by oxmouth on Apr 3, 2009 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great post.

I have his book on the back of the toilet and am about to get into it… after I finish the compilation of Rick Reilly’s I picked up at the .99 cents only.

J

by Jezru on Apr 3, 2009 1:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Stefan Fatsis....why not?

We can discuss Fatsis’s access and inside information, or lack of, all day long. What you can’t argue is that his perspective is 10X better and more accurate than what’s being served up on ESPN, NFL, SI, DP….need I go on?

I really liked his book. I thought his insights were compelling. As a writer/kicker, there are certain cliques within the team he’d be able to integrate into more easily that others. The skill players/superstars arent likely to give him anything. I totally get that, but I applaud his efforts/perspectives.

Cutler’s a total “Diva”! We all get that….good luck and good ridance. Now, let’s focus on the Broncos, not the Bears!

"Attitude reflects Leadership" Hogblog...aka KSM

by Hogblog on Apr 3, 2009 2:44 PM MDT reply actions  

bingo
Should Jay Cutler and his agent, Bus Cook, have been insulted that these conversations took place? Of course not. Coaches and general managers have a responsibility, akin to a CEO’s fiduciary responsibility, to consider anything that might improve their team. What I know based on talking to some of my former Broncos colleagues is that, well before this drama erupted, Cook and Cutler wanted to renegotiate the quarterback’s six-year contract, which has three years left. The current deal included $15 million in guaranteed payments. Cutler was paid a $1.275 million roster bonus in 2006 and a $7.9 million option bonus in 2007. But his base salaries are, by Pro Bowl-quarterback standards, meager, and a $12 million performance bonus isn’t due until 2011.

Ted Sundquist, the Broncos’ general manager when I was with the team, told me at the time that, because of the large lump-sum, back-end payout, the contract would probably be restructured before it expires. He said Bus Cook also expected that to happen. Did Cutler and Cook manufacture their hurt feelings over McDaniels’s trade talks and the coach’s subsequent ineffectual spin in an effort to get a new contract now, or get to another city that would give them one? I don’t know. But they certainly saw an opening.

Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 3, 2009 5:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Good read

And rec’d.

Lady, you want me to answer you if this old airplane is safe to fly? Just how in the world do you think it got to be this old?
— Anon

Both optimists and pessimists contribute to the society. The optimist invents the aeroplane, the pessimist the parachute.
— George Bernard Shaw

by Choochoobonewagon on Apr 3, 2009 5:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Great article!

Thanks for the link. I haven’t read his book but look forward to within the next few weeks since I am taking a two and a half week holiday to the states starting tomorrow. I’ve yet to find it in NZ.
     Jay has definitely cried crocodile tears ever since he saw an opening to take advantage of the situation. I’ve always thought he was a bit immature but nothing that could be taken care of with time and experience. Maybe it’s a good thing that this all turned out the way it has and we’ve gotten rid of Jay sooner rather than later.

by Kapiti on Apr 3, 2009 6:00 PM MDT reply actions  

Nice find. Rec'd.

I really enjoyed the book he wrote and he has always provided interesting insight.

"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
"I'd rather hit than have sex."- Reggie Jackson
"Obviously your not a golfer." - The Dude

by Elway4Prez on Apr 3, 2009 6:09 PM MDT reply actions  

Very interesting and spot on.....after seeing the Chicago press conference....

Knowing he was no longer a Bronco, Cutler comes off as almost a misfit….not a bad guy……but a little clueless and socially inept….dont know if immature is the word….just socially awkward and a guy who beleives the press of those around him…
Afetr watching the press conferences of Jedi and Jay, I am now convinced we made the right decision…100%…and I had some doubts yesterday!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Apr 3, 2009 6:24 PM MDT reply actions  

There's a golden rule in marketing...

never, never, never believe your own bullshit! Someone forgot to clue Jay in.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 3, 2009 6:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Reluctance to talk to a journalist as a rookie can get blown out of proportion

Maybe that was a sign of wisdom, journalists are infamous for putting their spin on stories in the name of sensationalism. Granted, professional athletes need to interact successfully with the media, but that is probably a learned skill. What I have always found refreshing about Jay is his directness, in the modern world of carefully prepped talking points I find that type of upfront communication refreshing.

I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.

by Arctic Bronco on Apr 4, 2009 6:55 PM MDT reply actions  

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