A Letter from Pat Bowlen
by Snaggins on Apr 3, 2009 12:46 PM MDT
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PrintThe letter below was sent via e-mail by Pat Bowlen to current season ticket holders and mere wannabes (like myself). Thought others might be interested.
Dear Broncos Fan,
I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to give our community and our fans an explanation regarding the Jay Cutler situation.
One of my directives to Josh McDaniels upon his hiring was that he consider everything possible to return the Broncos to the level which you and I both expect, and this certainly includes making a fair evaluation of every opportunity presented to us which might improve the team. He and General Manager Brian Xanders have had my complete support throughout, and they have it now. It is important that you know that at all times we represented ourselves to Jay with honesty and integrity.
I assure you both Josh and I made repeated attempts to reach out to Jay, and I can not speak for him as to why he chose to limit his response. Ultimately, given his unwillingness to speak with either of us directly in the last 12 days- at the same time his agent clearly stating to us Jay's intentions- it became very apparent to me personally that he no longer wanted to play for the Denver Broncos. As such, we elected to trade him.
Understand this: it remains about team. Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players. It has never been about one player, and it never will be. Coach McDaniels shares this vision, and everyone in the organization—players, coaches and staff—must understand and accept this unconditionally. If anyone does not, that person will not be a part of this franchise.
I am extremely proud of our franchise, its accomplishments, and the region and fans that we represent. We have an illustrious history, one which we are all anxious to add to, and if someone does not wish to be with us as we head in this direction, then we will move on, and move forward.
Over 96% of our season ticket holders have chosen to renew their tickets for the 2009 season. This is once again a compelling statement of support and trust by the greatest fans in the NFL, and I assure you my only goal is and always will be to compete at the highest championship level.
The Denver Broncos will move forward in 2009 as one team, united with the most loyal and passionate fan base in football, towards the only goal we will ever pursue.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and for your understanding and continued support.
Sincerely,
Pat Bowlen
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That's what I'm talking about
Glad to read Pat laying it out for everyone.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
It has never been about one player?
What the hell was, “This one is for John!” mean.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
that was for a guy that tried for years and years before
to get his ring, and it was synonymous throughout Broncos Country that that one, was indeed for John.
That game wasn’t about John Elway until the 3rd quarter. The Elway dive made it very clear to the rest of that team that he was willing to give up anything to win. Would you want to let down your quarterback? The guy that actually was the face of your team, your city, for over 10 years?
Would you want to be the one to explain to him after your narrow loss in Super Bowl 32, that you just couldn’t reach that little bit further to deflect that ball? Or jump a little bit higher to make the catch?
I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be that guy.
Peyton Hillis in '09!
It's simple math, the Denver Broncos will succeed in 2009 with the addition of 20, but minus 6.
That's the point
The whole Shanahan hiring, all the free agents we brought in, all of that was for one player, John Elway, did it benefit the team, of course, but before the SB run, you could have argued fairly successfully that the Broncos would of been a better team by trading away a diminshing player and get some young players and draft picks (ala the Dallas Cowboys and Hershal Walker), instead of bringing in a lot of free agents to make one last run. So I have a hard time when Bowlen sits there and says it’s not about one player, for a greater part of his ownership period, it was about one player.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
let's not confuse metaphor with reality...
there is a difference between dedicating a significant win to a transcendant leader and making one person the be all and end all of your organization. If Elway had gone down to an injury do you think the team would have said, “oh, well what’s the point in winning now.”
No, but ask yourself realistically
Let’s say instead of Mike Shanahan, we hired someone like Mike Holgrum, who had no loyality to Elway and looked at him and said, you know what, I can get a player with more upside in Brett Favre and some draft picks out of Atlanta for Elway, Elway will not be around much longer and we need to build a long term winner, do you think Bowlen would of allowed that trade? Hell no, the whole point of hiring Shanahan, signing all the players and breaking the cap rules while doing it was to get John Elway one last shot at a title, not to make the team better in the long term.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
-1
The point of hiring Shanahan was to win a superbowl. The fact that John Elway was on the team and that Shanahan had a rapport with him was an important aspect of that. But it’s just sillyness to say that Shanahan was hired just to get Elway a title. What did they expect to do after John retired, stop chasing Superbowls? I’m sorry, but that’s not Mr. B.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions
and yes
they went for broke to do it, but that’s what you have to do. And ultimately, that’s what Pat is doing here — risking a lot for a shot.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
No, but look at the team
It was not built for a long term run, you had a lot of high priced free agents, sitting there and saying that the moves that were made were not made for one player is being somewhat disingenious. Like I said before, if you were coming into the situation and had no ties to the organization or players in 1994, I am sure that you probably would of said, we need a younger QB and more talent on defense and offense, we have an asset in Elway that will accomplish that, lets look for a trade where we get better and Elway has a chance to win.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
You make good points, BM
but the key thing about Bowlen is that he doesn’t play by expectations or rules, his or anyone else’s. He goes by instinct. You’re right, for a long time, for Pat, it was all about Elway. But that was because his gut was telling him that John was the guy who could win it for him.
I’m not going to compare Elway to you-know-who, but clearly there was also an element of having been there together, to Superbowls, in which a true friendship was formed. Honestly, if John was incapable of playing at a high level, I do think Pat would have been man enough to tell him so and let him go, just as he did for Shanny.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions
The other side to the argument BM
Is that they looked at Elway and thought – “the only way we’re going to win an SB is with John”. And they knew their time was running out. So they brought in the free agents.
That doesn’t mean that it was for John. What it meant was that John gave them the best chance to win and they chose to leverage off that.
And the fact that it was dedicated to the greatest Bronco (with the possible exception of Bowlen himself) ever is a little bit of love for someone who gave their all.
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams
by orange&blue_aussie on Apr 3, 2009 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
wait a minute...
… who were the high priced free agents? Look at the roster… that doesn’t scream high priced free agents to me… seems like a rather average roster, if not below. They brought in some help, yes, but look at their salaries compared to other teams.
~Davus.X~
Est. 1967
Bleeding Orange and Blue for 42 years
Newest Resident of La-La-Land! Mike Clark for President!
13-3 BABY!
The problem is that Shanahan and Bowlen didn't look at long term goals
Had they said, you know what afetr John retires we don’t have a very realistic shot to get back there without rebuilding the team, they could of blown up the team and looked at rebuilding through the draft, instead of trying to live some unrealitic dream and thinking one high priced free agent player will solve our problems and make us a championship team.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
I completely agree.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions
But I do think
that was more Shanahan than Bowlen. Bowlen trusted Shanahan with his checkbook after Shanny got him two Lombardies. Ultimately, as we now know, it didn’t pan out. But I think many of us were hoping he was right about the free agent strategy, at least for the first few years after John retired. What if we’d nabbed a healthy Steve Young? Plug him in, and away we would have gone, IMHO. There was something to that strategy, I believe, but of course nothing is ever guaranteed.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions
True, I will say Shanahan probably was more to blame on the course of action
I think the main problem became the Salary Cap and the league rules, in the early 90’s teams like Denver, GB, Dallas, and SF, had figured out ways to skirt the salary cap, then the rest of the NFL caught up and rules were tightened and teams figured out how to keep their free agents.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
+1
Yup, and I know a few Chiefs fans who will never let us forget it. ; )
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 1:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Broncoman:
Are you really upset that Bowlen did what he had to do to win us our 1st SB Title (and then back-to-back titles)? You’re mad that we brought in free agents and loaded up our team around John so we could become world champs? Are you serious? You would have preferred to have traded Elway away for picks and kept chasing that elusive 1st SB win? We very well may still have been without a title if we went that route. I have never heard, or never thought I would hear, a Bronco fan that was angry that we didn’t trade Elway and that we went and put a team around him that won 2 SB’s. Unbelievable!
If we could have just screwed another head on his shoulders, he would have been the greatest QB who ever lived.
That's not the point
The point is that Pat Bowlen said “It’s not about one player, it never has been.” My point is that is a false statement, don’t read into stuff I did not say. Am I happy John Elway won two SB and Pat built a team around him, yes, but for Bowlen to come out and say it has never been about a player is a lie.
He didn’t say this one is for all the Bronco fans and the City of Denver and State of Colorado, or for all the players and coaches who worked so hard but weren’t able to win one, it was “This one is for John!”, meaning it was more about the player than the team.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun, A-hole" - Ash from Army of Darkness
I think I understand what your saying Bm, Mr. Bowlen says one thing, after doing just the opposite.
Everyone hear is willing to let that slide, because we won back to back superbowls.
All I can say is, because he is the owner, we can’t hold him to a different standard right?
After all life is full of absolutes, correct? black is black— white is white, there is no grey, at least where others are concerned… I see your argument, however I don’t know anyone who really lives there, really. In the world I know, their is larceny in everyone—(even Mr. Bowlen,)
acting on it is personal choice. In the world I know, everything is changing with new information coming in all the time, changing decisions, creating lots of grey area.
My point, I see your argument as…. well like fishing. throw it out there—see who you can reel in yes? very entertaining and fun, and I enjoy reading your coments…
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Apr 3, 2009 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I disagree
It wasn’t all about 1 player, it was about the Broncos winning a SB. John was our QB. Just because Bowlen said this one’s for John after we won that 1st title doesn’t mean it was all about John. It was still all about the Broncos for Bowlen. He was just making a sentimental gesture to his QB who had lost 3 SB’s prior to winning one. Someone who’s only knock was he can’t win the big one.
Let’s say I’m an engineer completely dedicated to my job, my team, and my project and I constantly put my project & team members first, letting them know that the whole way. Now let’s say I’m honored with an big award for my achievements. Just because I say this one’s for my dad as a sentiment to him, doesn’t mean that I’m not completely dedicated to my job, to my team, and to my project. It wouldn’t make it untrue that I always put the team first. It would just be a way to show appreciation for someone who helped me get there.
If we could have just screwed another head on his shoulders, he would have been the greatest QB who ever lived.
John Elway was the team.
"I’m sorry, I’m not just going to pin this mess on the new guy. I expected more from a team leader, a veteran, a so-called franchise QB." ~broncosmontana
by Colorado_Kitten on Apr 3, 2009 6:09 PM MDT up reply actions
You can't make that argument
First off Big John mad the playoff’s in his second year and went 11-5 his 3rd Cutler still has yet to have a winning record.So to compare the 2 as far as a trade like this is not even a close call!!
by robsey69 on Apr 3, 2009 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
With one piece we now are missing
Defense!!! The Orange Crush equally contributed to getting us to the playoffs and Superbowls in John’s early years.
by precisiongolfguy on Apr 3, 2009 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
not really...
the “Orange Crush” was pretty much in decline at that point. Rizzo, Swenson, Alzado, Thompson, Jackson were gone (Smith too).
Actually...
In Elway’s first trips to the big game, we had a superb defense that was still dubbed the Orange Crush:
Karl Mecklenberg, Rulon Jones, Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater to name a few. Infact without the defense we fielded those years, we would have a similar situation that Cutler faced when teams score more than 21 points.
I don’t care who started it… This was a colossal failure by the Bronco’s front office. You don’t let franchise quarterbacks go, no matter how premadonna they become. As long as he wasn’t running an illegal hampster fighting ring, make him happy.
They didn’t have to trade him. He isn’t happy…? Wait him out… Time heals all wounds. This was a reactionary response that wasn’t given the benefit of time… And now we have Kyle Orton and Phil Simms’ sperm that could.
Disappointing.
yes, but that came years later....
Elway did not have those guys his rookies season (and I don’t think Atwater was actually on the team yet for that first Super Bowl)
by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 4, 2009 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions
And let's read the rest of Bowlen's statement
Elway never put himself before the team (with the Broncos at least) like Cutler did. I think that is what Bowlen means when he says that it has never been about one player.
You need to start letting go of all the negative in your life and take a fresh look. Holy cow.
I agree....let it go.
lets move forward and ALL of us (fans included) get behind the team.
I had tpo laugh though….Jerry Angelo’s last comment was; “We got a winning quarterback” What? Since when is 17-20 a winning QB???
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
by UB3 on Apr 3, 2009 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Give Mr. B a break, BM. You’re talking about a transcendent player and clearly the greatest player in Broncos history, and one of the greatest in NFL history.
by Douglas A. Lee on Apr 3, 2009 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL
i was thinking about that when i read the line
Our franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times, with three different coaches and with many different players.
the flip side is that the franchise has gone to the Super Bowl six times with two QBs—one of whom took them to 5.
that said, i applaud bowlen for the well written and well timed letter. this one’s for… kyle!
We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur.—Al Gore
wow...like i bet you don't cook much
if your getting ready to make something for supper…and you have thawed chicken that you just gotta do something with (because its been around a looooong time and will have to be used or thrown out soon) so you decide to make enchiladas…and if you dont have some red peppers and maybe some onions…omg…like you run to the store and get some
anyway…just sayin’
And i am totally upset with HIM...omg...i could just slap His face off...i shouldnt feel this way but...wow...like i just feel like i should go get my hair done and put on that special dress and stilleto heels and show Him what Hes gonna miss...cuz Hes never touching this again!!!!!!!!!!
“omg…like you run to the store and get some”
LOL
by AllBroncsallday on Apr 4, 2009 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Actually, that's an awesome analogy!
John Elway is akin to the thawed chicken and the enchilada is the Super Bowl.
You can try to make a chicken enchilada all day, but without the right ingredients, it’s just not going to be a chicken enchilada… gotta go out and buy some red peppers (Romanowski) and some onions (Niel Smith)… all of a sudden you find yourself enjoying a SuperBowlChickenEnchilada!
And it was good….
and, contrary to some opinions above, the extra ingredients weren’t “high priced” ingredients.
~Davus.X~
Est. 1967
Bleeding Orange and Blue for 42 years
Newest Resident of La-La-Land! Mike Clark for President!
13-3 BABY!
Actually !
If you ever watched a replay of SB XXXII And i know you did . Near the end there is a short take of
bowlen saying how for many previous years of SB loses he actually was stunned to win then . And
said at the time he didnot have anything prepared to say ! So THIS ONES FOR JOHN …..SAYING
Actually saved him from embarssment of stumbling public speaking . He goes on to say that
I WAS GLAD THAT I HAD THAT AT THE TIME ! I REALLY DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE !
And i can believe him due to his hall of fame induction speach for G ZIMMERMAN .witch personally
i thought was a disaster for him. GET BACK TO ME ON THIS ! B MAN
by broncosfaninphilly on Apr 3, 2009 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Gotta love Mr B.
+ a billion gazillion, Snaggins
~Davus.X~
Est. 1967
Bleeding Orange and Blue for 42 years
Newest Resident of La-La-Land! Mike Clark for President!
13-3 BABY!
Hopefully Pat is OK with a wider readership than he may have intended. The danger’s of e-mail letters! But given the mostly out-of-state readership of this blog, I thought it was worth posting.
It's appreciated, bro!
One of the greatest assets that a leader can possess is communication. That email sealed it for me. I know Mr. B. is in control and everything is handled and that’s all I need to know. We move forward from here.
~Davus.X~
Est. 1967
Bleeding Orange and Blue for 42 years
Newest Resident of La-La-Land! Mike Clark for President!
13-3 BABY!
+2 Very much appreciated!
I’m sure Mr. B wouldn’t mind this going out to all fans.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep. AWESOME....thanks so much Snaggins!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Finally....
It’s starting to feel like we are moving forward…. Root for the team and not the number….
Besides… Try as he might…. #6 will never ever reach #7.
J
that's very true.
simplicity in math. I love it!
Peyton Hillis in '09!
It's simple math, the Denver Broncos will succeed in 2009 with the addition of 20, but minus 6.
Root for the name on the front of the jersey,
not the name on the back.
Did anyone see the uniforms that Army wore for the navy-Army game last year? Instead of player names across the back they all had the West Point motto. Something like “Loyalty Duty Honor Country” As a Annapolis fan, I was impressed.
Pat Bowlen +100
Broncoman’s sentiments in this post – 100
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
by sadaraine on Apr 3, 2009 1:29 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
BM's not wrong
At least, not about everything. ; ) lol
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I didn't say that at all :)
I was very specific with my negative points. :P
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
lol
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions
He's fan #1.
Nuff said!
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
I also posted this in Gurus post
TURN YOUR RADIOS ONTO 1043 THE FAN. McD is on right now with Scot and Al. EVERY BRONCO FAN NEEDS TO HEAR THIS INTERVIEW
great interview
I really liked it — they are going to replay it at 5pm, but I imagine they will post it on their site soon as well
Someone please post a Fanshot
when it’s available. I’d love to hear that!
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 3:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Snag!
Good stuff.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Sorry
As a Charger fan I am really sorry to see Cutler go, I really wanted to see him get beat down for the 3rd year in a row by the Chargers. Atta Baby!!!!!!
We may have cut our crybaby
but you re-signed yours. ; )
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions
As Nelson would say
“Hah. Hah.” Well done, sir, well done.
Rivers is a good QB no doubt about it, he’s also an incredible ass.
I also found the Cutler—Rivers rivalry distracting so I’m kind of glad that’s out of our world now.
Nicely done, my friend.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Mr Bowlen
You just eased my heart alot. I t is about the Denver Broncos and not about any individual.
For the love of the animals. 24
Pat's Real Message
“Thanks for listening. Now you damn Denver Donkey…..errrr, Bronco fans just shut the hell up and buy my damn tickets, you stupid putzs. Whatever I field, you buy. End of story. Now shut the hell up and reload your season tickets….we have the Detriot Lions to chase after.”
Wow, now that's cynical.
I’d hate to hear what you think of him if he’d taken us to ZERO Superbowls.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions
People like you
are the kind of people I hate sitting next to at the games….
that guy that constantly complains about paying too much for his tickets.
Peyton HIllis in '09
LMAO T
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Give me a break!
This came from Pat Bowlen? Pat “this one’s for John” Bowlen. I have lost so much respect for this man through this process. I understand he has to stick by his new coach, but he is going out of his way to paint Jay “the man around here now” Cutler as a cancer, all the while completely ignoring that his new coach created this problem, and would never do what it took to patch up the relationship. Was he preaching team when he put Cutler up on that pedestal after firing Shanahan? Please Pat, just have the decency to say that your coach mis-handled his relationship with Jay Cutler, and THAT is what created the situation in which a trade was the only way out. I admit that a trade was now best for both parties, but it was absolutely NOT Jay Cutler’s doing. And you are doing your best to ruin this 25 year old kid’s reputation. Just shut up and move on if you can’t honestly discuss your part in this crap.
by HACK10 on Apr 3, 2009 4:17 PM MDT reply actions
I agree 100%
I just don’t see how Bowlen and his new boy can speak into a camera at us Broncos fans and say they didn’t screw up.
Look
They sent Jay to his favoritest team in the whole wide world which is contending for a deep run. If they were really as vindictive as you say, they would have sent him to Detroit for a fourth rounder and a cheese ball. I will miss Jay too but he is happy now. For realz. Face it and move on.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Good for Pat.
I support his statements.
My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.
by YellowStoneBronco on Apr 3, 2009 4:38 PM MDT reply actions
this one's for john
Elway was the face of the franchise and carried the team in the lean years and the first super bowl years. Then they went for broke before elway retired so he would not be mentioned in the same breath as marino. For many years Elway was the team he stayed with them did not force atrade and even stuck it out when reeves tried to trade him. thecomplet opposite of what cutler did. Mr. Bowlen is the man and i respect hime for letting us know what he was thinking. Go Broncos. Draft REY!!!
But...
If Bowlen would not have fired Reeves, then John would have been traded at some point in time. I don’t remember Bowlen chastizing John when him and Reeves had a public dispute. It could have been said that Elway was not putting the team first at that time. It all depends on how Pat wants to frame it, and back then, he put his QB ahead of anybody. This time, Bowlen just knows he has to build up the coach he just replaced Mike freakin’ Shanahan with. And acknowledging that McD made a HUGE mistake in the first month on the job would not reflect well on Pat’s decision to hire him. I know why he’s doing it, I just think it reaks of dishonesty and is completely classless from one of the best owners in sports (I thought).
by HACK10 on Apr 3, 2009 5:14 PM MDT up reply actions
The difference is
John had already taken the team to three Superbowls. I guarantee you if Cutler had done that, even if he’d lost them, he’d be here still and McD would not be.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:15 PM MDT up reply actions
did elway refuse to call back
i am willing to bet that elway kept in communication with Mr. Bowlen and wanted to do what was best for the team. Not hold him hostage to his feelings. Cutler was not about winning in this situation he was about his own personal feelings
Hack...
You cant, in all honesty, compare Cutler to Elway…seriously.
Need to let it go man. a 17 – 20 QB with potential who is barely a Top 10 QB in the league now vs. perhaps the greatest QB ever.
I just dont get the argument….and calling Bowlen dishonest is a stretch at best.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
That letter goes to show how stupid Bolwen must think the fans are
1. season ticket sales were pretty much finalized before the Cutler ordeal.
2. prove you made every attempt, don’t expect or ask us to just trust you.
3. It’s obvious you’re trying to cover your backside for making a poor choice in a HC and you don’t want to can the guy and look like an even bigger fool.
4. “Understand this: it remains about team” oh yeah that’s right what was it you said before “this one is for John” yep the Denver JOHN ELWAY football player… guy… team…thingy. YEAH
5. How about thanking us by coming out and telling us your COMPLETE and in its ENTIRETY part in this fiasco. After all you are supposedly an adult here but you’re calling the kettle black by saying Cutler acted childish…what exactly are you doing?
This letter in my opinion is pretty much a screw you to the fans and if you don’t like what we have done then suck it.
I Have To Live With Myself, Not Pat Bowlen
He lied.
After he lied he lied again.
I want no part of a city, town, organization, or anything else that conducts itself in this fashion.
Pat can shove his stupid little “team” where the Boston sun doesn’t shine.
Go away then.
simple.
Peyton HIllis in '09
by Joe Medina on Apr 3, 2009 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's quite comical...
that people will take the word of a 25 year old quarterback who has never won a playoff game over Pat Bowlen who is a consummate professional and who has presided over 5 Denver Bronco super bowl teams.
+1 zillion jillion bajillion gadzookillion gorganzillion
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes kapiti....I am stunned.....really.......the guy who built this franchise vs the word of 17 - 20 QB with the social skills of a spider monkey.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Especially...
every time when that 25-year-old QB opens his mouth he has something new that contradicts the last thing out of his mouth, while Bowlen has had the same stance the whole time.
I just don’t see how people can misconstrue: “I want to be traded” and “I never wanted it to come to this (to get traded)”.
Logic
Never works with the mancrushed fanbois. Excellent point nonetheless!
by AllBroncsallday on Apr 4, 2009 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Prove you want no part of it
At first I felt you were somewhat amusing and were bringing a lucid and acerbic wit to the equation. Now it seems you’re honestly just hatin’.
If you don’t like the Denver Broncos, stop wasting our time.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where's Mike Clark when you really need him? lol
La la la la la la la la…
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Then piss off Tyger....I am over your attitude....or you have to do is stop posting and we will all see your opinion.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Apr 3, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ummm...well thats your opinion......Cutler is gone, move on.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
This is classy
This is the kind of communication that should be coming out, and it is, now, especially with McDaniels’ press conference. I like the openness, even though McD didn’t say much in spite of all the words he used. However, he is trying to talk to the media without giving other teams or players any information they don’t need. Everything will be fine.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I see it again
Jay Cutler = John Elway
SINCE WHEN? Did john EVER hold the Team hostage cause his feelings were hurt? (if he did please correct me)
look the facts are simple Elway busted his butt for this team EVERY DAY EVERY GAME. He took us to three Super Bowls we had NO BUSINESS being in! When Pat said “This One’s for John” it was in Tribute to how much John Elway had sacrificed for this team. He could have walked in Free Agency but he stayed, he could have asked for a trade BUT HE DIDN’T. so please….
STOP COMPARING CUTLER TO ELWAY
http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
+1 JT
But its a rockin humongous 1. : )
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes JT...start comparing Cutler to say.....umm....Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Drew Brees...hes not evn in nthe same galaxy as Elway!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
He's not even Kurt or Eli or Drew just yet
though I suspect with the Bears he could be.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 6:44 PM MDT up reply actions
After 3 years
Elway – winning record, 2 trips to playoffs, first 11-5 team to miss playoffs;
Cutler – losing record, 0-4 in must win games, no trips to playoff.
I loved Jay the player but he has no business even being mentioned in the same breath with Elway.
Cutler = potential
Elway = production
Is the other must-win loss you're referring
to the last game of 2006? I ask because some people keep saying we lost four in a row at the end of this year, and all they have to do is pay attention to the facts to know that’s not so. I agree with the comparison. Jay hasn’t raised his game when it would have made the difference.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
0-4 in must win games
yes I was referring to the SF game in 2006 although, an argument could be made that Plummer should share the blame.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 4, 2009 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
you cant be serious
You are actually comparing the early 1980’s Bronco team to the Now team of Denver. Elway went through the growing pains too. But he had a team that was dominating in the AFL at the time. I mean you’re comparing apples to oranges switch the two and the out come would have been the same those first three years regardless. To be more realistic you should compare the two defensive teams those three years.
in the beginning
Elway did not light it up his first couple of years. But the defense on those teams were better than the defense of these last two years. Cutler has the makings of Elway but not the toughness to ride out the tough times. Elway was not asking to be traded.
Howard Griffith, The Best Bronco Ever
I stand by my statement
Did john EVER hold the Team hostage cause his feelings were hurt? (if he did please correct me)
http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif
"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
Yes, Elway did hold the Team hostage. but it depends
on what you mean by the Team. if you mean the Broncos, no, Elway probably didn’t hold the team hostage—just the coach.
personally, i was good with that, though. just as chicago will be good with cutler holding the Broncos hostage.
We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur.—Al Gore
DUDE...how about reading for context instead of just content
Dominating the AFL at the time…not before he got there.
The AFL had been gone over a decade...
The Orange Crush was in decline. John was one of the Chief reasons we starting to be dominant again. He did lift the entire team. He did win must win games. Something Cutler may be able to do someday, but not yet.
Let’s not confuse potential for actual performance.
I grow weary
of trying to fix blame on everybody. I believe what we had here, to borrow the old axiom, is a failure to communicate. From day 1. It’s sad, and feelings were hurt, and passions were stirred, and people’s mothers were compared to salad veggies and species of baboon. But ultimately, this was just a communication issue. Not quite bubonic plague or genocide or limbs gone missing.
Jay is now playing for his favorite team, and I’ll bet it felt AWESOME to him today to feel as welcome and wanted as he was by his new coach.
We’re taking a hit, having lost a very wonderful, promising player. I don’t care that he’s immature. Not important now. But if we had to lose him, we did it with a certain amount of class toward the end.
It’s time to MOVE ON, folks. Let’s see what the draft brings us, and the summer, and the season. Challenge yourself to get past this, or grind the axe for years. I don’t care. But I’m tired of going over the same bullet points on both sides over and over and over again while our glorious team’s reputation gets drug through the mud.
"THIS IS SPARTA!!!" -- papigrande
"The cutsper gives up 100 000 dollars guy, come on custper you should show up and then give the 100 000 dollar to me so I can put down payment on the bronco cheerleader retire home where they can sit and eat all kind of pizza and chip and not have to worry any more about make for little waist in off seasnoal" -- Horvil Tiki
comparisons
i cant help it. I love it that they are calling cutler the modern day jeff george. true or not i don’t know but that is hilarious
Howard Griffith, The Best Bronco Ever
zappa made that comparison
about 4 or 5 months ago….
Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 3, 2009 7:02 PM MDT up reply actions
truedat!
I credit zappa with ahving the stones to roll with it, and compile that post, however…
Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 3, 2009 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah lets talk about that
John Elway…refused to play for the Colts period. He wanted to be traded, quite frankly he acted way worse than Cutler has at that time. Elway had publicly stated that he refused to join the Colts organization, feeling the team could not allow him to be successful. If they did not trade him he said he was going to play baseball. Apples to Apples, Elway was also very vocal and critical through out his early career. not like he had a lot of room to talk either.
Elways first 3 years 52 int, 47 TD that is well below 50% heck he didn’t break even and yet he was still all lip. Denver’ first 3 trips to the big show were dismal, John’ holds the record for most career interceptions in the superbowl at 8, of which 5 came between the 87-89 appearances. (thank god for Rich Gannon having the most in one game and two of his picks called back in 87 or it Would be John)
Cutler first 3 years 37 int, 54 TD that is an obvious difference in the production VS potential rankings.
I am not saying one is better than the other because it wouldn’t be fair to do so because Jay’s career has yet to run it’s course. I am saying they were both cocky and lippy when they were both in a similar situation. The issue here is that the HC are both very different and manage the affairs differently.
This is complete horse manure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Elway was already under contract to the Yankees! He wasn’t threatening to play baseball instead; he already was. That is completely different from Cutler who was under contract to the Broncos. The team that wanted Elway was going to have to convince him to give up baseball.
Also, if you were around then, John did not air his problems with the Broncos in public. He did have lots of issues with the media in general, specifically people hiding in his bushes and checking on what candy he gave out at Halloween. But he did not air his problems in public.
Revisionist history to justify Cutler’s actions because you disagree with Bowlen and/or McDaniels is disingenuous at best. You may disagree with the way Bowlen is running HIS team; you may not like the selection of McDaniels or you may be upset at the way McDaniels is going about his business. But let’s not fabricate the past to support your position.
Cutler is a very promising QB with a boatload of really bad habits. He is not the next Messiah!
by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 3, 2009 7:52 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Huh?
So it’s cool to demand an NFL trade if you’re signed to a minor league baseball contract?
SWG, you might be right, but the Elway hill is not the one to die on. Dude was a complete baby in his early years and matured into a great player. I like the guy but the only reason he didn’t air his problems in public is because ESPN (et al) didn’t exist. No one cared but the Denver Post and the Rocky… oh, and probably the Indy press who knew they got screwed by an immature tantrum. Hell, even Elway admitted he was a jackhole for pulling that move.
You’re not fabricating, like you’re accusing Good Temp of doing, but you’re definitely making your facts fit your agenda.
We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur.—Al Gore
Elway was never a member of the Colts
and had no Colt teammates to abandon. He made his decision not to play for a certain team before he became a member of that team. That’s why comparing Cutler to Elway is specious.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Exactly
and while Elway was immature he did a lot to back it up. And his immaturity was with respect to how he dealt with the Denver media. He didn’t throw his teammates under the bus.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 4, 2009 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions
Revisonist History...what (SWG are you trying to be a spin DR?)
I am laughing not only at you..but yeah well at you.
Yes he was playing minor league ball for the Yankees on a short contract (getting payed while you play) otherwise he would not have been draft eligible in 83.
So lets talk about that history and your twisting of it. John was drafted right out of HS by the KC Royals he instead opted to play football at Stanford, on a football scholarship. in 81 and 82 he was farming for the Yankees…this does not mean he had a contracted obligation to play for them in the terms in which you are thinking or are trying to imply. More or less a pay check much like you would get at your job and the option to quit at anytime you see fit with out any penalties. Just because you are drafted doesn’t mean you have to play. The same thing applied to Cutler he didn’t have to have a contractual commitment to play in the NFL at the time of the draft he could of walked away, any draftee could do that even now. Contracts come after the draft in all professional sports that I am aware of.
John wanted to play football and he didn’t want to play with the colts. These are pretty much facts and available on the internet for anyone to look at.
Even Gorge Brett Commented that he hoped Elway would play football. John was a pretty good out fielder in the farms and was seen as threat in baseball otherwise the Yanks would have over looked him. But in the end the man wanted to play football and he did. Was he lippy and a jackhole…you bet…even the man admitted it himself. That’s pretty hard of you to insinuate that John is a liar and would have never admitted such a thing when he has in public and the press and on the broadcast news. Oh you know that wasn’t very fair of me…maybe you just have selective memory, hearing, and vision.
GT
I see your arguement but it is lost in your personnal attack on SWG. Defend your side of the arguement but attacking a member is out of line.
"If you don't know where your going you might find yourself somplace else."
+1
Personal attacks are the hallmark of the DP, not MHR
by AllBroncsallday on Apr 4, 2009 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions
It does mean he had no contractual obligation
to anyone in the NFL. To attempt to justify Cutler’s actions by saying “Elway did it” or any other comparisons to Elway is horse manure.
1. Elway was not under contract when he demanded a trade – cutler was under contract.
2. Elway had no commitments to any teammates – culter supposedly was a leader of this team.
3. Elway took of a team that had finished 2-7 (strike year) struggled his first year sharing time, but finished 10-6 and made the playoffs – cutler took over a team that had finished 13-3, shared time and finished 9-7 missing the playoffs by losing the last game.
4. Elway’s second year he took the team to an 11-5 record but lost the tie breaker and missed the playoffs – cutler’s second year he finished 7-9 an improvement of -2 games.
5. Elway’s third year he finished 13-3 winning the AFC West (the toughest div in the AFC that year) and finishing with the best record in the AFC – cutler’s third year he finished 8-8 blowing a 3-game lead and failing to win the weakest divisision in the AFC.
Tell me again how cutler compares to Elway.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 4, 2009 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions 3 recs
I believe Pat over Jay Cutlett
I’ll take the word of a man who is largely resposible for all the success of this great franchise. If any of you watched the Cutler interview with Eisen on NFL Network Eisen asked him if it was true that McDaniels told him about the initial contact, Cutler said he didn’t want to talk about what was and wasn’t said. I’m sure if it wasn’t true he would have denied it no?
Exactly how that answer resonated with me as well
He was visibly nervous and uncomfortable with the question. I wouldn’t blame him for wanting to leave after Shanahan left, but why can’t he just say it?
I’ll take Pat’s word for it, too, as B Marsh so perfectly puts it in my proud new siggy:
"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 11:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Bowlen letter
I would write a letter to my fan base too, if f I had just traded a player that is a huge part in making it fun to watch the team. This letter is trying to put lipstick on a pig. The bottom line is still a pig. This is the best way to express my thoughts on this trade and the motivation behind the letter.
When Cutler was playing, I would have hope in 3 and long situations, that we had a chance to get the first down. Of if there was not time on the clock and we needed a two point conversation to win, we had a good chance.
Several friends of mine from Chicago said that it is typical of Orton to make a 6 yard completion on 3 and 9. I guess we should be prepared to send a punter to the Pro-bowl instead of a quarterback.
Pro Bowls
are popularity contests. I don’t really care WHO we send to the Pro Bowl…I care that every one of our guys goes to the SUPER BOWL.
Peyton HIllis in '09
Consider Chicago's line vs. Denver's line
and the 3rd-and-long argument is completely mitigated.
Fear not about Orton, he will be fine.
"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 11:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Granted, that was against Detroit
but they are division rivals and that was from the 1-inch line. ; )
"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 11:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Meh, Orton will be just FINE.
with all the passing weapons,and the O Line that could block the RAIN from hitting him…he’ll have enough time to read baby Cutler a book from the pocket while the receivers act it out.
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall
Dear Bronco Owner
I am writing this letter today because I feel compelled to provide to our fellow fans who pay hard earned money in trying times to support an organization owne dby YOU. THE OFFENSE WAS NOT BROKEN….oh it is now…..and how did it get that way….you and wonderboy are supposed to understand high ego athletes….hello moron. So I wish I had $20M to blow on throwing away a proven offensive mind, hire punky brewster…whose specialty is ….a offense….WTF? All this team needed was 3 or 4 better defensive players and 8-8 would be 12-4 and a decent shot at the post season. Way to totally screw up the team, divide the fan base, irritate your best single player. You must have been hanging around Al Davis lately. You certainly stepped in a pile of Bronco road apples. No letter to you fans is going to change that. Prediction…..2009 Broncos go 6-10 at best….get booed off the field many times, lead the league in locker room dissension and YOU will replace Al Davis and the dumbest owner in the league…..
Actually the offense was in need of big improvement
A few examples offered by our new HC:
Last year we had 17 2-minute drives, from which we got 1 (one) field goal.
Last year we had 30 turnovers, 2nd worst in NFL.
Last year we were in the top 5 in yards but not even in the top half in points.
What does that tell you? That every part of the team needed improvement. If you dove deep, no part of the team was beyond criticism last year.
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
KO: LWLLWWWWWWWWLWWLLLWWWLLWWLWWLLWLWWWL
JC: LLWWLWWLLLWLLWWLLWLLWWWWLWLLLWWLWWLLL
by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
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