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For the most part, I have fully backed Bowlen/McDaniels/Xanders throughout this Dove Valley Disaster that ended yesterday. While there is obviously blame to be laid everywhere, now that it's over, I'm going to use my first MHR Fanpost to tell you why I have supported and continue to support the powers that be at Dove Valley.

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First and foremost, there are many that have attacked our beloved owner, Pat Bowlen, and his crew for not being open enough with the fans throughout this adventure. That is precisely why I supported them at the beginning. Call me old fashioned, but I appreciate the fact that, for the most part, they didn't take their fight to the media. This is the kind of thing that should be handled in-house, and I feel that they tried as hard as they could to do that. One of my biggest pet peeves in sports is teams and players that take a dispute to places that it shouldn't go, namely, the media. I love the fact that they tried to keep this thing as private as they could.

Second, I don't buy the notion that the Broncos have been dishonest throughout this whole process. Perhaps they weren't completely honest with Jay Cutler, but that's OK. I don't know if anyone has ever been a coach, but you simply can't tell your players every little thing. I guarantee you that Mike Shanahan, Wade Phillips, Dan Reeves, Red Miller, John Ralston, and everyone that came before them told half-truths to their players at some point during their time in Denver. That's the way it works. There's a reason that the players play, coaches coach, and personnel people make personnel decisions, and there has to be a line drawn between each department at some point. Sometimes, you have to be a little vague or not completely up front.

Third - and this is important - Broncos Country, please stop the comparisons of Pat Bowlen to Al Davis and Jerry Jones. They are nothing alike. I cringe a little bit every time a read a comment on MHR or DPO in which a "fan" insinuates such feelings. Just stop. Bowlen has been and continues to be great for this organization, this city, and those of us that are proud citizens of Broncos Country. The chief example that is used comes out of the story in which Bowlen said that he "doesn't recall that conversation" in which he allegedly told Cutler that Jeremy Bates would be retained. While I haven't been in on any conversations, once again, I have to believe Bowlen. I take you back to the press conference in which he announced the "termination" of Mike Shanahan. When asked about the coaching staff he said, "I don't anticipate that any of the current staff will be retained." That's pretty straight-forward, if you ask me. Pat Bowlen, if he's not the best owner in the NFL, is certainly in the top five. I can't find a link to it, but a few years ago ESPN voted him as the best owner in all of professional sports. Bowlen-bashers need to cool it.

Finally, I get to the most important point of the day. I made a point to watch Jay Cutler's press conference this afternoon. What he said in that press conference confirmed what I had thought about him throughout this process. He either didn't fully understand or didn't embrace his role as the Broncos quarterback, and he failed to realize just how great the fans here are. In his opening statement, he thanked "Mr. Bowlen and the Broncos". Notice, no mention of the Broncos fans, which bothered me a little bit, but not nearly as much as what came a little later. He was asked about differences that he saw between Chicago and Denver. He said, "Fans here are more passionate." Then he paused and said, "Not to put down Denver." Give me a break, Jay. There are no fans more passionate than Denver Bronco fans. I had wondered about his attachment to this city and those of us that call ourselves Bronco fans all along, and he confirmed to me today that he never understood or embraced his position while he was here.

It really irks me every time I hear somebody say that fans in Denver are bandwagoners. That's simply not true. Normally you hear that from people that just moved here recently. To me, a "bandwagon fan" is somebody that loves a team when it's good, but doesn't pay attention when it's bad. Attendance at games has nothing to do with that, which is why I never understand why people cite the Avalanche, Rockies, and Nuggets when talking about the supposed bandwagon fans in Denver. The difference between us and teams with bandwagon fans, e.g. the Arizona Cardinals, is that if we don't go to games, it's out of protest to what a team is doing. To me, that's the definition of a die-hard fan. Bandwagon fans buy team equipment when their team is good. Denver fans dig out the old Orange Crush gear when they support what the Broncos are doing. It has nothing to do with the product on the field. We don't have to go out and buy gear, as we already have it from 10, 20, 30, 40, or 50 seasons ago. Cutler never understood that, and I believe that that is why he is a Chicago Bear today.

Have faith, Broncos Country! (By the way, another thing that annoys me is when people say "Bronco Nation". It's Broncos Country. Get it right. We aren't the Red Sox, Raiders, or Yankees.) Who knows what direction this franchise will go at QB in the future, but until then, have fun in Chicago, Jay, and bring on the Neckbeard!

 

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Thanks for sharing with us man. We’ll be fine. Our fans rock and the true ones are here through thick and thin. Can I get an Amen my brothas and sistas???

:)

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Apr 3, 2009 8:38 PM MDT reply actions  

Hallelujah brother s

"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall

by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

One of the best posts of the week, wtn!

Rec’d!!!!

"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall

by broncosmontana on Apr 3, 2009 9:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Well said

and rec’d!

"I’m sorry, I’m not just going to pin this mess on the new guy. I expected more from a team leader, a veteran, a so-called franchise QB." ~broncosmontana

by Colorado_Kitten on Apr 3, 2009 10:17 PM MDT reply actions  

couldnt have said it better!!!

rec’d. bring on neckbeard!

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 3, 2009 10:24 PM MDT reply actions  

On Bowlen

Bowlen would have to do a whole lot worse than this to ever shake my faith in him. There are some great owners out there so I won’t insult them by saying that Bowlen is the best. However what I will say is that he is the equal best owner in the business. You won’t get better than him.

The greatest Bronco in my book is Bowlen… what he does for this team and what this team has achieved under him cannot by overstated…

Great post!

"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams

by orange&blue_aussie on Apr 4, 2009 12:06 AM MDT reply actions  

+100

"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall

by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

calling us less passionate bugged me too...

but then he said that his offensive weapons in chicago are just as good as they were in Denver…and then i remembered who it was coming from.

Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage

by TD4HOF on Apr 4, 2009 1:12 AM MDT reply actions  

which i'm sure is partially

why BMarsh probably won’t ever speak to him again.

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you dont win" -Brandon Marshall

by Joe Medina on Apr 4, 2009 1:22 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I love how Marshall said that 4500 yards and 25 TD’s means nothing if you don’t win. Nice dig.

Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage

by TD4HOF on Apr 4, 2009 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

On ESPN's Page2....

… the readers voted Pat Bowlen #4, but ESPN’s Page2 put out their own list which has Mr. B. at the very top.

Here’s the link.
Of course, I think this was back in 2001, but I still hold Pat Bowlen pretty high up there.

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by Davus.X on Apr 4, 2009 2:28 AM MDT reply actions  

This was a great post

I thank you for bringing an intelligent approach to this.

by dmitchell624 on Apr 4, 2009 6:40 AM MDT reply actions  

Great post.

It’s not a jersey that makes a fan, but the colour of their blood. Also, I’ve never been to a Broncos game, but that doesn’t mean I’m not passionate, I walked out on a new year’s party to watch the 49ers game in 2006.

"Take Integral Birth, Paul."

by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 4, 2009 7:46 AM MDT reply actions  

Well done,You speak for many of us.

After all said and done Jay was about Jay ,pretty sad I had hoped for much more.I have faith in the new coach and the Team and the TEAM he is building.

by Shiiver on Apr 4, 2009 12:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Funny isn't it

how it works with stars of the screen and the field. We sort of build up our own impressions of them and, quite often, load them with what we think we see, the glimmer of potential, what we WANT to see in them. And very often, that’s just not who they are. It’s the perils of fandom, I suppose.

Really puts the rarity that was one John Elway in perspective, though — he IS who we THOUGHT he was.

"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
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JC: LLWWLWWLLLWLLWWLLWLLWWWWLWLLLWWLWWLLL

by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 11:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of the Cutler-Love

was leftover from the Elway era. With every Broncos snap from center, it sinks in more and more that the Elway story was one ina million. It was rare, precious, irrepeatable. Fans don’t want to let it go, and they sometimes get confused and think that reincarnating it is the best way to honor the image.

But just like frankenstein didn’t make a great all-around dude, no QB, Jay or otherwise, will ever tell that same story. One of the things I am looking forward to most about this latest transition, is what is the NEXT story that gets told in Broncos’ blue and orange? It doesn’t have to be the greatest story ever, but I sure hope it has heros, and guys that I can root for…

Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 5, 2009 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Maybe Denver's interminable search for

“the next Elway” has really been a search for the hero who leads us to the next Super Bowl title, thinking only a successor to Elway can do it.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Apr 5, 2009 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

And looking forward to your next. Good stuff!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 4, 2009 12:37 PM MDT reply actions  

Great post Nelson...love ya take, mate....rec'd.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Apr 4, 2009 10:47 PM MDT reply actions  

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