Broncos release Selvin Young
by John Bena on Apr 30, 2009 3:58 PM MDT
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PrintThe Denver Broncos on Thursday waived running back Selvin Young, it was announced.
Young joined the Broncos in 2007 as a college free agent from the University of Texas. He played 23 games (13 starts) in two seasons with Denver, totaling 201 rushes for 1,032 yards (5.1 avg.) with two touchdowns and 38 receptions for 247 yards (6.5 avg.)
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If hoodie jr. cuts or trades Hillis will some of the koolaiders finally say wtf? Hillis is an absolute stud. You gotta find a place for him.
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by Bob in Boulder on Apr 30, 2009 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions
He hasn't been cut though.
Look through the list of cuts so far this year and argue a single one of them as being a “wtf” move. ;-)
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really, that move is going to cost us anything in wins and losses? lol
I am a Sac State guy, so I liked the signing. ;-)
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I can't see it doing anything for us.
I don’t think it improved our team or made it worse but its the only one i could think of. I didn’t really see the reason behind the move and since I don’t see any real improvement i think its a “wtf” move.
yeah, it was a wtf move...
but he was a Patriot….that means something obviously. McD is trying to change the culture in Denver and he is doing that by bringing in as many Patriots as possible. I can respect that….especially if they are leaders of men.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
Maybe
McDaniels has reasons he hasn’t yet shared. Just because we go “wtf” doesn’t mean there’s not a reason- it could be for cultural reasons as Zappa says, or for other, not-obvious reasons we’re not privy to.
by AllBroncsallday on May 1, 2009 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Relax man!
McDaniels has already said he likes the versatility that Hillis brings, and they’ll be looking for creative ways of getting him the ball. I don’t think cutting Selvin Young means ANYTHING for Peyton Hillis.
But yes, if Hillis is cut, I will STRONGLY disagree with the move. Deal? :o)
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Amazing When
this guy pops up.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
I was wondering when this would happen.
GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!
Lakers beat Utah 4-1.......waiting for next opponent.
Hillis ain going and either is Torain i dont think...
Thanks Slevin, but the writing was on the wall!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
Yeah...saw this one coming.
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on Apr 30, 2009 4:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Torain
will get his chance to compete in camp and there is no way Hillis gets cut. I saw this cut coming though
by gnarlybroncodude on Apr 30, 2009 4:05 PM MDT reply actions
It is definitely hard
to say goodbye to a good guy who gave us 5.1 ypc. But the Knowshon era has begun.
"They need a hero to tell them that the impossible can become possible..... WHEN... YOU'RE... AWESOMMMME!" -- Rhino the Hamster
by broncosmontana on Apr 30, 2009 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Because....
His potential has never outshown his ijury potential and now we have guys with even more potential. Torain is history as well unless he gets well and impresses in a hurry.
"Now we have them where we want them"
-Kieth Bishop - On the Denver 2 yard line, Cleveland Ohio, 1987
2000 Yards...
in his career you mean?
Don’t get me wrong, I like SY, but he’s never going to be an every down back, and I don’t think he’s special enough to have many regrets about losing.
Moreno, Torain, and Hillis are all more talented younger backs. And Buckhalter (and maybe Jordan) are more experienced backups. Appreciate his time, though!
Why....
does Hillis come up everytime there is a Running Back discussion..? He was drafted as a fullback. He’s a prototypical fullback the likes of which we haven’t seen since Howard Griffith. He played Running Back because it was either him or Shanny suit up himself.
HILLIS IS NOT A RUNNING BACK!
That is all.
J
It's pronounced Moreno, not Marino.
Other than the fact
that he was the most productive RB the Broncos had last year, and based on limited carries one of the most productive in the NFL, you have a good point.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 30, 2009 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
He was taken as a FB.
But he was a major rushing force in college (even as a FB), and Denver still made the conversion quickly. When he showed what he could do, he demonstrated his higher value at RB. Recently, McDaniels praised Hillis as a RB, which leads me to think that he is not only still a RB, but near the top of the pecking order.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Apr 30, 2009 4:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call hillis a RB or a FB
I would just call him a badass
LET THE DRAFT BEGIN
by robbo650 on Apr 30, 2009 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
And cowbell - I like cowbell, too. :-)
"From the get-go, we targeted a certain type of player: tough, smart, competitive, versatile, a good person that loves football and wants to win." -Coach McDaniels
by Colorado_Kitten on Apr 30, 2009 7:14 PM MDT up reply actions
You could mix it up too...
like Badbell, or Cowass…
Or not.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on May 1, 2009 2:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
one of the greatest HS RB’s in Arkansas history, if my memory serves correct. In fact, I believe he was recruited to ARK as a RB and started as a freshman while McFadden sat.
"Talking tough is easy when it's other people's evil and you're judging what they do or don't believe. It seems to me you'd have to have a hole you're own to point a finger at somebody else's sheet" -- Mike Cooley
I think I read (here somewhere), that he was recruited by Ark U. to be a running back, did a good job as a freshman.
Then Jones & McFadden came in & he was asked to move to FB & did a great job there too! He sure is fun to watch! We haven’t had a guy that drags tacklers for a few yards for a long time, & I loved it!!! Can’t wait to get all these new folks in to see what they can do!!!
Which should tell you...
Hillis being the most productive runner last year should tell you what the potential of all the other running backs was worth.
Hillis will play a lot this year and probably very little of it at RB. He is the only FB left on the roster and McDaniels has already stated there are a variety of ways he can and will be used.
"Now we have them where we want them"
-Kieth Bishop - On the Denver 2 yard line, Cleveland Ohio, 1987
He's not.
See below – the current FB is Marquez Branson. HT’s right – McD already mentioned Hillis as a running back.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
I stand corrected...
But I wouldn’t be surprised if he went back to FB to start the season….
J
It's pronounced Moreno, not Marino.
He will be called a FB
But it will not be a traditional FB role he will play. I see a lot of plays designed around him unlike most fullbacks
LET THE DRAFT BEGIN
Could well be
I really look forward to seeing this unfold
Hillis/Moreno in '09
by Doc Bear on Apr 30, 2009 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
A la Kevin Faulk...
"I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" -- Wimpy J. Wellington
by Broncs Cheer on Apr 30, 2009 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I believe the term is H-Back
That’s what I see Hillis as.
Run, catch, block and line up anywhere. That’s our Peyton.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
lol
can i get a reality check here Torain who?
Hillis who
selvin who?
we went for free agents and draft picks this year because our line was good and our backs were weak.
And slow. …which is why Bell did well… fast
now who’s fast?
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 30, 2009 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions
This is why we want him to play RB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48HAiaY3vps
after Moreno I would say Hillis should be our #2 back. He can be our Lendale or Moreno’s Chris Johnson or our Johnathon Stewart to Moreno’s Deangelo Williams.
As HT has said in some of his other posts, we’re probably going to be running out of a single back formation a lot this year. that means we wont even be using a full back much. Hillis proved last year especially in the Jets game that he can run as just a single back.
I love Hillis and what he brings to the table and I think it would be a shame to see him in anything but a RB role
Wow.
I totally expected this, too. Yet I got chills when I saw the headline. It’s really happening folks. Somebody pinch me.
I actually liked Selvin and expected great things of him once, but he clearly wasn’t the answer. Best of luck to him in the future.
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by broncosmontana on Apr 30, 2009 4:20 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully with this early release he can get picked up by someone.
Best of Luck Selvin. Our backfield was just too crowded and too good. I am sure he will find another home.
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by YellowStoneBronco on Apr 30, 2009 4:22 PM MDT reply actions
Very surprised
I cant believe that we did this. Selvin Young seemed to be a rather productive player.
Go Broncos!
Why Young? He's a BEAST.
What about the other undrafted guy?
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Hall?
Gone his contract was up i think
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Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Apr 30, 2009 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions
no
the OTHER undrafted RB, lol. You know things were getting bad when we have to distinguish between all of our undrafted players.
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Anthony Aldridge?
cut before the draft
"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"
by Sharpe as a Tack on Apr 30, 2009 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
beast.
this site is come
i mean koolaid
drunk
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 30, 2009 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions
HILLIS IS NOT GOING TO GET CUT
I have heard this on more than one occation and it is complete nonsense. The Broncos will keep 6 to 7 running backs this season. McD has nothing but great things to say about Hillis and is excited to utilize his versitility. With Pinnock cut yesterday, Marques Branson is the only other fullback type we have and he is more of an H-back. Hillis is here to STAY!!! See here for a quality write up on this topic here
As for Selvin, good luck my friend. You have skills no doubt, but you can’t make the club when your always in the tub.
If anyone gets cut it will be Torain...
he is a fan favorite, but he is also just a 5th round draft pick who can’t stay healthy. I just hope McD gives him one more year to make something happen.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
At least some of Torain's popularity with the 'base
Comes from Shanny’s endorsement of him as a possible T.D.-style breakout late-round player.
I’m not sure how big a chance McD is willing to give a player based on his predecessor’s endorsement.
by OrangeTorpedo on Apr 30, 2009 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions
We also had a lot of research done on him around here that gave us hopes for him
but the injury concerns were there from the beginning and continue to be there, so I will have to trust McD in his player evaluations when the cuts start coming in later this reloading season
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
I agree with you
I don’t think much of Torain simply based on his inability to stay healthy. There is so much talent out there, it just doesn’t make sense to keep that type of player on the roster. Give someone who can stay healthy an opportunity.
And as you stated Torain is a Shanny guy, not a McD guy.
So then we have:
(listed) RB
Moreno
Torain
Buckhalter
Arrington
Jordan
(listed) FB
Hillis
the rookie
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"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"
Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!
THAT IS TOO MNAY WHY DID WE DRAFT MORNEO FIRE MCD!!!
Heh heh, I kid. Anyway, good luck, Selvin. Hopefully he can stick on somewhere and find a niche. I always liked the way he ran and I hope that he can solve that injury problem.
WE GOT MORENO!!!!
Denver may go one of two ways.
They may drop the FB position. I kind of doubt it, but that’s the new trend. I believe there is one NFL team that is going without a FB this year.
More likely (like many teams), Denver will simply phase the position out slowly. I expect a lot of 2 TE sets and 3 WR sets with a TE from Denver.
Despite his listing, I don’t expect Hillis at FB. I could be wrong.
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by Steve Nichols on Apr 30, 2009 4:42 PM MDT up reply actions
To your point...
you can utilize a player like 2nd round draft pick TE – R. Quinn to play FB in certain situations. McD will use players with flexibility to fill multiple roles within different personnel packages (i.e. goal-line, short yardage, etc.) and save the roster spot that would be needed for a fullback.
I really like the progressive thinking of McD!
r u serious?
Have you ever watched NE?
The tuna?
It’s the power running game that wins unless against all odds, the passing game is unstoppable…
Dave maggot anybody?
3rd down back anybody?
who’s our speed guy?
Who’s our intangible threat?
phase out the fullback?
The third down guy?
The first down guy that’s always a threat?
Hillis I hope!
No.
This will never happen.
Duh.
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 30, 2009 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
You could HT, but it doesn't happen much
Still – what I’m most interested in is what we’ll be doing with Marquez Branson, the 250 lb FB/TE/H-back out of Central Arkansas. I tend to suspect that there’s going to be a lot of variety in how these people are used.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
Don't forget about another stud
Spenser Larsen
My Dad told me about the 4 seasons:
Pre-season
Regular-season
Post-season
Off-season
And somebody's got to play special teams.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Apr 30, 2009 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions
dork
now we draft guys for special teams.
instead of the other way around… let potential threats at other positions prove themselves on special teams!
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 30, 2009 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Torrain seems snakebit.
Every time the guy sets foot on the field, he shows great promise, and then something catastrophic happens. He may get one more chance to prove himself. For his sake, I hope he’s found the voodoo doll with his likeness and burned it.
As for Hillis, how do you even consider cutting a man who treats safeties as something less than a speed bump, and has hands like Fred Bilitnekoff? This guy is going to contribute.
We can’t really call it thunder and lightning, because Mreno doesn’t have elite breakeaway speed (like another Bronco back not so long ago), but he does have some moves.
Knowshon and Peyton will be more like dash and bash.
Dash and Bash - excellent!
Being a Bulldog fan (more accurately, being married to one), I saw plenty of Moreno and am happy we have him. Am very anxious to see him work with our o-line. As for HIllis, thanks to purplesocks for the YouTube link above. You can see the great hands, great vision, and I loved seeing Hillis blow up people down field again. And yes, the salute too. Hillis = Power under control + A class act. Now that’s football!
P.S. I could’ve done without seeing the “groin” catch again though… ugh.
That would be STUPID!
You don’t burn a voodoo doll of yourself! You put it in a nice, safe location where nothing can ever happen to it. :o) jk man
But really, I wouldn’t be worried about Hillis being cut. McDaniels has already said he likes Hillis. Don’t get concerned unless it actually happens…which it won’t.
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I am glad they released him now
Really no way I could see him making the team at this point, at least now he has a chance to stick somewhere else.
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One report says he failed his physical
according to a medical report he can’t play because of his neck injury he sustained when he returned from his groin injury. He either needs his neck sugically repaired and will be ready in a few months or needs rehab and reeval in Sept. Either way the Broncos have too much at RB to wait. He has supposedly declined the surgical option which may lead to further problems down the road. I would guess they would be proposing a fusion.
Ouch
Hope it isn’t a permanent neck injury for Selvin. Regardless, best of luck and best of health to him.
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And you think Torain is snake bit.....Selvin has been injured WAY more!
Good luck to you Selvin!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
waaaaaaaay more
Selvin overcame the odds just to be a featured back in this league. He has done well for himself considering. Too bad he never got a payday, cause he worked his butt off here.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on May 1, 2009 2:17 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm sure he will.
Be kinda cruel to leave your running backs coach out of the running back decisions.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
In a way I'm happy about this,
because our backfield is pretty crowded. I think that Knowshon and Hillis will both be big parts of our offense. I think Moreno will be our main runningback, and Peyton will be moved everywhere around the field, confusing the defense. That’s the advantage of having a guy that is so versatile.
"Really, I'm a high-motor guy. Tough, hard-nosed, a hard runner, can make you miss at times. And just competitive. I love to play the game and I bring that energy to my team. So, we'll see how that goes." - Knowshon Moreno
Knowshon Moreno is the boss!
jordan is also a great power back with a history of some injuries
Ditto Buckhalter – Arrington’s got some youth and great blocking for a guy his size. Nice group.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
Selvin Young did a good job for the Broncos
I hope he gets healthy and gets picked by another team.
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
Good luck to you Selvin!
And if another axe is to fall, I believe it will be Jordan.
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!!
His contract is probably the next easiest to cut
If the other backs look like they get the system, I’m betting Jordan is gone.
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I hope the browns get selvin
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by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 1, 2009 6:15 PM MDT reply actions
Go For Him
I have to say though that it seems like a lot of Denver RBs go to other teams and fizzle.
Don't jump off the cliff but if the guys next to you are loud and annoying try to push them off.
Tis better no to throw it to the deep receiver but the open receiver.
::cough Mike Anderson::
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