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Jay Cutler: A Brief History Lesson

Denver Broncos history forever changed directions with the departure of Jay Cutler.  Though many of us have been severely wounded by this disaster, it is time to review and reflect on our former first-round draft pick's short and tumultuous tenure with our beloved Broncos.

Drafted #11 overall in the 2006 draft, Jay Cutler immediately placed Jake Plummer on the chopping block.  Plummer wouldn't have to wait long as he was benched after leading the Broncos to a 7-4 record, but only 17.7 ppg and an offense that lacked explosiveness.  We cannot really blame Plummer as he was in a no-win situation.  He had mistakenly thought all he had to do was win football games, but what he didn't know was that Mike Shanahan wanted something Plummer would never have - God-given physical gifts.  Jake Plummer was a working-man's quarterback and I can't fault him for anything.  He won a lot of games for us.  That said.......

Jay Cutler would struggle out of the gates, but also gave fans flashes of greatness. In his first start (Video), he would throw one of the worst passes anyone has ever seen that was picked off and returned for a touchdown only to have Cutler and Brandon Marshall connect on a 70-yard touchdown pass late in the game to tie it up. The Seahawks would win on a last-second field goal, but the rocky start for Cutler would improve over the next few games.

After a blowout loss to the Chargers, Cutler would put together a string of two impressive victories over Arizona and Cincinnati. Sitting at 9-6, the Broncos only needed a win over the lowly 49ers to secure a playoff berth. The Broncos would fail to punch the ball into the end zone on three separate drives, allowing the 49ers to stay close enough to secure the upset win in overtime, 26-23 (Video). The fans had even gotten so frustrated that they cheered Jake Plummer when he came in to replace Cutler, who was shaken up early in the game. He subsequently threw an interception and the Jake Plummer era officially ended for all eternity.

Although the loss was heartbreaking, most fans had a sense that we were in store for some great things and optimism flooded the Mile High City. Mike Shanahan went out and spent some money to bring in what he thought were proven veterans. Guys like Travis Henry, Simeon Rice and Sam Adams. The Kool Aid was strong enough to fool any Bronco fan into believing we were on the cusp of greatness.

Star-divide

All seemed to go according to plan when Jay Cutler orchestrated some last-minute heroics against Buffalo on opening day. Converting several fourth downs, which set up a rapid call for "Toro, Toro, Toro" that sent Elam out for a rushed field-goal kick that sailed through as time expired to give the Broncos a 15-14 win (Video).

There was trouble brewing on the horizon though, as the first game of the 2007 season so aptly pointed out to any person perceptive enough to notice. That trouble was consistency. Consistency in the red zone, consistency on defense and special teams, and consistency at the quarterback position.

Cutler and the Broncos would luck out in a win over the Raiders in Week 2. It was a game the Raiders should have won, but Shanahan got lucky with a once-in-a-decade "freeze" of a kicker that worked. However, the wheels came off rather quickly as Denver went on to lose five out of their next six games, culminating in Detroit with Jay Cutler throwing in the white towel and giving up on his teammates (Video). This, of course, is not what anyone said about his so-called injury, but in retrospect I have a strong suspicion that he could have played through his injury that day but just didn't want to. Although I might be unfair, as the guy was playing with an undiagnosed illness (Type 1 Diabetes), but the fact is he didn't fight in the trenches with his teammates in the second-most embarrassing loss of the season - losing 41-3 (Video) at home to the Chargers is likely the most embarrassing loss the Broncos have suffered since the 55-10 debacle in Super Bowl XXIV.

Cutler would come back to lead the Broncos to two consecutive victories, but then the wheels came off again after a Monday Night beat-down of the Tennessee Titans, 34-20. Jay was faced with some tremendous adversity in the following week against the Chicago Bears. Many of you have blocked this game out of your memory, so here is a refresher. The Broncos would go on to lose four out of five games, finishing the season with a losing record.

I believe this may have been the point where Shanahan might have been fired, but as luck would have it Shanny had something to blame that wasn't a defensive coordinator. Jay Cutler was playing with Type-1 Diabetes, which apparently explained why the team was so horribly inconsistent. Pat Bowlen bought it, the fans bought it, everyone bought that explanation. It made sense, why else would a top-ranked offense be so horrible at scoring points? Right?

Mike Shanahan must have had trouble reading the tea leaves, because he again went out to get some expensive free agents. This time he went for some low-profile, high-character guys and then signed them to expensive salary cap-unfriendly deals. The result was another over-hyped offseason which would lead us Kool-Aid drinking fans into believing we were again on the cusp of a 13-3, championship season.

This facade would remain through the first three weeks of the season and Jay Cutler was looking like John Elway reincarnated. He is even quoted as saying his arm is stronger than Elway's. Quite a statement from a 24-year old, but us fans ate it up. The new, improved Jay Cutler would rip off a 41-14(Video) dismemberment of the Oakland Raiders on the MNF Week 1, before heading back to Denver for a showdown with the hated San Diego Chargers.

The game would turn out to be an instant classic, a shootout between divisional rivals and two quarterbacks who openly despise each other. Jay Cutler and the Broncos would streak to a 21-3 lead, but Philip Rivers would lead his team back into the game and even took a late 38-31 lead. Cutler would provide some drama of his own and his near disaster and ensuing heroics would end with a thrilling 39-38 victory (Video).

The Broncos' luck would continue into the next week in another shootout with the New Orleans Saints. Another 21-3 lead wiped out by the opponents, as a Cutler interception would lead the Saints back to within striking distance. To the Broncos' credit, they would never trail, as they held their slim lead on a missed field goal to end the game to edge the Saints, 34-32 (Video).

The wheels quickly came off as Jay Cutler and the Broncos would become the inconsistent, floundering offense it was at times during the 2007 season. They would lose four out of the next five games. Then suddenly, Jay Cutler and the Broncos would come alive. They ripped off four wins out of the next five, including a thriller on Thursday Night Football against Cleveland (Video). Cutler lifted the Broncos to the cusp of a division title, holding a three-game lead with three games to go.

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Then, in true Jay Cutler fashion, he choked. He would throw four interceptions to just two touchdowns in the final three games of the season. Losses to the Panthers and Bills would set up a battle for the AFC West Division Title against the San Diego Chargers. It looked like the Broncos had come to play, but with the game still within reach, Cutler would make the critical mistakes that would ultimately lose the game for the Broncos. With the Broncos down 24-6 late in the second quarter, Jay Cutler threw an interception in the end zone. Then in the third quarter, after leading the Broncos to a score to close the gap to 24-13 and after the Chargers scored again, Cutler threw another interception inside his own 20-yard line. The Chargers would increase their lead to 38-13 and the game was essentially over. The final score was 52-21(Video).

The loss would lead to Mike Shanahan's dismissal, along with most of his staff and a disgruntled Jay Cutler would put his houses up for sale and disappear from Denver. The more I look at the entire situation from start to finish, the more I believe Jay Cutler wanted out of Denver long before the McJayGate fiasco. McDaniels will be blamed for Cutler's departure, but I don't think McDaniels ever wanted to get rid of Cutler. This whole deal was exactly what Jay Cutler wanted - even to the point of ignoring his own boss in Pat Bowlen.

The Chicago Bears will get a quarterback who has essentially never improved since becoming a starter. He is a streaky quarterback who, when hot, is unbeatable, yet when he is cold the losses will start to pile up. He has been this way throughout his entire career and though I don't think he will ever become the next "Jeff George", he will likely never win a Super Bowl. He has the ability to rack up Warren Moon- or Dan Marino-type stats, but the playoffs and high-pressure games will be too much for him to overcome.

To back up my point, here is Cutler's career in W's and L's when strung together in one long line:

L L W W L W W L L L W L L W W L L W L L W W W W L W L L L W W L W W L L L

Time to move on.

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Thanks Zappa--you put together a strong case, when seen in its entirity.....well lets move on

Go Broncos

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Apr 4, 2009 7:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You're Right

Great piece….we all need to turn the corner and I am ready.

As you know, it still hurts.

That Rivers idiot in SD is laughing his ass off right now!

by nealjamb on Apr 4, 2009 7:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Time to move on indeed

Well framed, Z. I’ll admit that I will miss Jay, and that I was sold on his potential, but the post trade interviews (Cutler on NFLTA, Marshall on NFLTA, McDaniels on the FAN) have me feeling quite comfortable with the resolution we achieved. I was comparing Orton’s lifetime stats to Jay’s last night before bed, and while Jay obviously showed the hallmarks of a true stud, Orton seemed to do pretty well in the wins column, given the questionable state of their line.

Orton’s letters look like this:

LWLLWWWWWWWWWLWWWLLWWLWWLLWLWWWL

I like what I see.

"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall

by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 7:40 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

oops

That should actually be:

Orton (games started)

LWLLWWWWWWWWLWWLLLWWWLLWWLWWLLWLWWWL

"Get off that ledge, Alfred!" -- Josh McDaniels
"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall

by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 7:43 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see a lot of W's.

I like.

I seem to have lost my future self.

by papigrande on Apr 4, 2009 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you stare long enough (drink the kool-aid)

the L
s start to disappear!

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 4, 2009 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

As much as I have liked Orton and think he will do well in Denver, anyone who watched his rookie season knows those first block of W’s was due to anything but Orton’s play. Mostly Defense and crazy ST’s…

by tunga77 on Apr 4, 2009 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the refresher Zappa.

These thoughts have been rolling through my head for the last few days. I’ve always (and still do) felt that Cutler has great upside potential, but he is just too damned inconsistant. I’ve said the words “He’s just a young QB and will learn better” way too many times in the last 3 years. I dont mind rookie mistakes from a rookie, but from a third year QB they are infuriating. I’m starting to be glad that he is no longer our problem.

by Papamag on Apr 4, 2009 7:57 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe this is what Denver needed, a veteran QB...that actually wants to play for us!

I think Jay wanted to leave Denver ever since Shanny left. Then when he heard that his name was involved in trade talks, he made a volcano out of a mole hill. His agent probably told him how to orchestrate his way out of Denver. Jay worked it to perfection…complaining about how he was going to get traded. Not returning phone calls…It was definitely time to move on.

What I want the Broncos to do before the start of next season:
1) Improve the defense drastically.
2) Improve terms with Jay Cutler.
3) Talk Jay into firing Bus Cook as his agent.
4) Sign Torry Holt to a 1 year deal.

Let's go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoholic on Apr 4, 2009 8:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh and, I remember that Chicago game...didn't Devin Hester return two punts for TDs against us?

What I want the Broncos to do before the start of next season:
1) Improve the defense drastically.
2) Improve terms with Jay Cutler.
3) Talk Jay into firing Bus Cook as his agent.
4) Sign Torry Holt to a 1 year deal.

Let's go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by broncoholic on Apr 4, 2009 8:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he did.

I still can’t believe we kicked the ball to him.

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

by weazel on Apr 4, 2009 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

See my pofile.

It was brutal… =/

Denver should’ve won that game easily.

by tunga77 on Apr 4, 2009 10:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler's bomb to Marshall was a thing of beauty too

Happened coming right towards our seats…

by tunga77 on Apr 4, 2009 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it must be even more interesting

with the Cutler trade and a Sunday Night preseason game vs. the Bears ( In Denver )

GO BRONCOS IN 2009 AND BEYOND!!

by weazel on Apr 5, 2009 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is this guy?

I mean writing the above review. You need to look at the whole picture bubba…lol You fail to mention one MAJOR detail to the above to consider…NO DEFENSE. Defense wins games…see, when you behind with no running game and NO DEFENSE, you are forced to throw the ball and make things happen…guess what, your opponent knows this and doesn’t have to think very long and hard to stop you, even with an average defense. Defense primarily wins games/championships with average offense.

by tommym on Apr 4, 2009 8:33 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

+100

finally someone not drinking the “i now hate cutler since he’s no longer a bronco” kool aid. “the player” as many of you are now referring to him as was a bright future for us. he lead our explosive offense to 2nd in the league. it was our defense that failed us in most of the losses, not cutler.

i’m sad to see cutler leave our team, but i wish him the best and will continue to be a fan of his, while staying true to my bronco colors.

go broncos, down with mcdaniels and his unproven ego.

by la-broncos-fan on Apr 4, 2009 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I take issue with this:
he lead our explosive offense to 2nd in the league

second in the league huh? in what? Yards where did we rank in POINTS (you know those things that actually WIN games)?
I am all for defense wins championships, I love defense and I do believe ours was horrible the last two years. That being said, when its third and two and then become fourth and two, that is not the defenses fault, that one belongs to the offense.

2nd in yards 16th in points keep the second number in mind when you tout the first around

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 4, 2009 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

all i'm saying is...

it’s very unfair to compare orton’s win/loss record to cutlers. the bears (aside from last season) have had a stellar defense easing pressure off of the offense. further, the bears have an established run game which the broncos have stuggled in the last few seasons. so comparing win/loss records is not a true apples to apples comparison.

slight cutler all you want, i’m sure many of the relgious-bronco fans will throughout the season, but he was our solid future qb that mcdaniels squandered away. sure, we’ll pick up the pieces and figure things out, but i doubt we’ll figure it out under mcdaniels’ leadership.

i’m definitely a bronco fan for life, but will also pull for cutler when there’s not bronco conflict. :)

by la-broncos-fan on Apr 4, 2009 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Jay too. BUT

Actually the offense was in need of big improvement
Actually the offense was in need of big improvement. A few examples offered by our new HC:

Last year we had 17 2-minute drives, from which we got 1 (one) field goal.
Last year we had 30 turnovers, 2nd worst in NFL.
Last year we were in the top 5 in yards but not even in the top half in points.

What does that tell you? That every part of the team needed improvement. If you dove deep, no part of the team was beyond criticism last year.

It was fixable, though, certainly. It’s too bad the communication was so poor and it went as far as it did. But if Jay had to leave, I’m happy to have Orton’s 96.0 red zone rating.

"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
KO: LWLLWWWWWWWWLWWLLLWWWLLWWLWWLLWLWWWL
JC: LLWWLWWLLLWLLWWLLWLLWWWWLWLLLWWLWWLLL

by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

la-broncos-fan: “’i’m definitely a bronco fan for life, but will also pull for cutler when there’s not bronco conflict”

So I’m guessing that you won’t start pulling for Cutler until the 2010 season right? Since we have their #1 pick in next years draft, each game he plays this year there will be a Bronco conflict. If you cheer for him to win in 2009, you are essentially cheering for a lower draft pick for us. I hope Cutler sucks it up next year, bad enough for us to get Bradford.

If we could have just screwed another head on his shoulders, he would have been the greatest QB who ever lived.

by c_style on Apr 4, 2009 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

correction
  1. in moving up and down the field.
  2. in point scored. Had we been #2 in points scored we would have made the playoffs, Cutler would be here cause Shanahan and Bates would be here. Last I checked (I will check again though) games were won on points not yards gained. Whether you like Cutler or McDaniels or neither doesn’t matter to me but realizing all the facts does mean something.

by dmitchell624 on May 3, 2009 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The post didn't come out like I typed it

I wrote we were 2nd in moving up and down the field.
We we were 16th in points scored.
Had we been #2 in points scored we would have made the playoffs, Cutler would be here cause Shanahan and Bates would be here. Last I checked (I will check again though) games were won on points not yards gained.
Whether you like Cutler or McDaniels or neither doesn’t matter to me but realizing all the facts does mean something.

by dmitchell624 on May 3, 2009 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zappa

is an “Asst. Head Coach” for MNR. (See bottom of the page.)

Hit the one in the middle.

by mla2131 on Apr 4, 2009 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zappa is MHR's history buff.

If you stick around, you’ll find that he’s quite opinionated, but all of his opinions are backed by solid reasoning and evidence. Always good to put a modern issue in historical context.

Also, I find the “13-1 when the defense gives up 22 points or less” stat to be misleading. Look at Jay’s stats in the games where the defense gave up 23 points or more: he turned the ball over like crazy, which led to short fields and easy TD drives for the other team. So it was in part his fault that the defense gave up all kinds of points.

I seem to have lost my future self.

by papigrande on Apr 4, 2009 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

As the two above state

“Asst. Head Coach” and local History Buff.

And you are…?

by AllBroncsallday on Apr 4, 2009 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure zappa would be the first to tell you

that he is as open to criticism as the next guy. We don’t pull out credentials around here. (Not that any of you guys are necessarily doing that, but I thought I would curtail that message before it starts.)

Also, Zappa unfortunately (or fortunately, depends on how you look at it) is out of town attending a family shindig, so he won’t be around right away to defend himself here, in case anyone wonders why he doesn’t respond.

Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 4, 2009 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoops

I see Zappa’s comment below. Need to finish scrolling through before you start typing styg…

Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.

There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 4, 2009 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

cutler never came to play when we needed him the most

"It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and dont win"-Brandon Marshall

Neckbeard vs The Spleen: How better can this get?!?!

by broncoboy on Apr 4, 2009 10:10 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Zappa

you do a fine job.

I had never really put the pieces together but it does seem like things were happening well before the hiring of McDaniels at least in Jay’s mind.

I will miss his “when he was hot, he was unstoppable” games but I will not miss the other ones!

Good luck Chicago, you play in a tougher division than us. The pressure may kill your QB’s spirits

http://www.davusx.net/assets/db/la_la_land.gif

"We should have kept Seattle and dumped San Diego from the Division"

Davis and Sharpe to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 4, 2009 10:27 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts on Cutler

1. I thought he had the potential to be great, and I still do. But he’ll have a tougher time of things playing for the Bears.

2. As good as I think Cutler is, he still has annoying habits. He still doesn’t look off his targets, and he still forces bad passes.

3. I still like Cutler as a player and a person. I think a young kid got played by his agent, and made the wrong call.

4. Big rec’d to Zappa. Solid writing, and well timed. (I think Zap started this piece before the team said they would accomodate Jay’s decision to be traded).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 4, 2009 10:37 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks all, even to those who think I am a tool. lol

I am in Las Vegas on vacation and this will be my only response here. Defense or no defense, look at the games we lost and look at Jay Cutler’s performance…its not all defense people.

All in all, the Broncos were well compensated for this trade. Have good a weekend!

Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.

by Tim Lynch on Apr 4, 2009 11:32 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

yes look at cutlers performance...

when the defense does their part. 100% defense wins championships. the steelers this year were NOT an offensive minded team, but their D was SOLID.

with a crappy defense, you can’t put that kind of pressure on any offense and QB and expect positive results. put any pro bowl / super bowl QB in cutlers position the last couple of years with an awful defense and i doubt they would fair any better.

by la-broncos-fan on Apr 4, 2009 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

So the answer should be

trade the pro-bowl QB for draft picks, use those picks to build a great defense and build the offense around a solid-game managing QB, right?

That’s what I’m looking forward to.

Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960

by Darin H on Apr 4, 2009 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a SD fan..

I see you guys in a better position than the Bolts were in when Eli decided he didn’t want to be a Charger (Chargers ended up getting Rivers and Merriman out of that deal). You guys got a working man’s QB, along with two first round picks and a third. All of you guys crying about the Bronco’s D should be ecstatic. Management now has the means to fix the D much quicker than would have been possible without extra picks. As a fan of a division rival team, I would have rather seen Cutler stay a Bronco than see the Broncos get all these picks. Say what you want about Rivers but the guys is down for his team and has already proved he will play on one leg to try and win. I didn’t see anything close from Cutler and I doubt if I will see it as a Bear either.

by jcp72775@yahoo.cm on Apr 4, 2009 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We put that exact kind of pressure on John all the time.

He seemed to do okay.

And of course in 2008 the Colts gave up 40 fewer points than last year’s Broncos and won the SB.

Our 2008 offense showed flashes and lots of promise, but inside their numbers you will find tons of room for improvement. Not that they couldn’t have gotten there. They may have been our best unit, but our D and ST were pathetic, so that doesn’t mean the O belongs on an ivory pedestal.

"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
KO: LWLLWWWWWWWWLWWLLLWWWLLWWLWWLLWLWWWL
JC: LLWWLWWLLLWLLWWLLWLLWWWWLWLLLWWLWWLLL

by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 2:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zappa

Great job Rec’d

by dmitchell624 on May 3, 2009 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is he to talk?

The answer is simple. First, he has forgotten more abou Broncos history than I have learned. Second – why would we take that tone with anyone posting an article on this site. MHR is very open to opinion. We beleive that our members and our staff are good people and have points of view that deserve to be aired and discussed.

Generally, logic and reason are better ‘tools’ than demanding someone’s ‘credentials’. The credentials are in the writing – if it is well-substantiated (and it is), and well-written, (yes again) it deserves a well reasoned critique. Was the defense poor? Yes. Did Cutler’s performance add to our troubles? You bet.

Hillis in '09

by Emmett Smith on Apr 4, 2009 12:41 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

And it’s not “sour grapes” for losing Cutler, or some sort of kool-aid drinking pile-on for those who felt he handled things poorly. It’s in the statistics.

"I’m gonna take the lead of the guys who have the rings...It means nothing to throw for 4500 yards, 25 touchdowns, and you don’t win." -- Brandon Marshall
KO: LWLLWWWWWWWWLWWLLLWWWLLWWLWWLLWLWWWL
JC: LLWWLWWLLLWLLWWLLWLLWWWWLWLLLWWLWWLLL

by broncosmontana on Apr 4, 2009 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is that Cuter develops into something like Brett Favre.

He’s gonna win a lot of games by himself for the Bears and he’s gonna lose some games all by himself for the Bears. I think he has a very good chance to get to a Superbowl or two with the right supporting cast. Actually, I hope he does.

In fact, I now hoping like hell for a Denver vs. Chicago Superbowl in the near future. You all know it’s going to happen. Weird karma juxtapositions happen an awful lot in football and that one has just gotta be!

I’ll definitely have to boycott the MSM when that happens though. Elway vs Reeves was enough :)

by jaffe28 on Apr 4, 2009 1:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 jaffe

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Apr 4, 2009 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Denv vs Chi

I’ve been saying that for awhile too… let’s wish both sides the best from this trade!

by tunga77 on Apr 4, 2009 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew it!

I have been saying for five weeks this was all Jay’s fault. He tried to power play the Broncos and it blew up in his face. He thought he was bigger than the Broncos, Pat Bowlen and Josh McDaniels and wanted the Broncos to kiss his butt! He has that rich boy feeling of entitlement and expects everyon to make him the king. Good Riddance Jay. And as Josh said it is all about wins and leadership two thing Jay has none of and Kyle Orton does. As far as Orton goes don’t sell him short. I heard both Mike Ditka and Ron Jaworski, two opinions I respect, say that he is a better QB than people know and is underrated. And in that sorry ass Chicago offensive scheme he could never thrive. Lovie Smith and Ron Turner are terrible offensive coaches as JayC will soon see. Nobody mistakes Tom Brady for a great athlete but as a quarterback and a leader he has it all. Alos Orton’s offense at Purdue was a form of the shotgun, option route kind of offense that McDaniels will use. And the Broncos don’t need to draft a quarterback use all these precious picks for defense as this draft is loaded with defensive studs. I know after ten years of nothing for title runs here in Denver it is hard to be peatient but it will take two years for them to rebuild this bad defense and it shows how bad Shannie had gotten at building a defense. I say good for the Broncos in what they got and getting a distraction out of the lockeroom. It is funny what BMarsh said about who cares for 4500 yards and 25 TD’s when you can’t win. Kyle Orton the new quarterback of the Denver Broncos!!!!!

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