Tales: Watching the Parade
The Cutler saga is finally behind us. Whatever your perspective on the actors, the curtain came down, the road show moved to the next city, and our lives can begin to get back to normal. It's time to get serious about the draft, to take a look at what the future will bring to our team and its fans. Who isn't excited about the month to come?
The past four days have shown us a lot of things. We've learned a lot about how this performance was directed, who the play was scripted by and what this was really all about. Opinions still differ as to what that was and what it will man for the Broncos. As JohnnyB has said - It's time for us all to pull together and unify as fans, and as members of this site.
Continued inside the fold
One thing stands out to me at the end of this story's natural life cycle, and I wanted to share something with you. During this exhausting unfolding, there was a seemingly endless parade of scurrilous rumor, exaggeration, fabrication, story-telling and outright lies that flowed from vague and ill-defined ‘sources', and that cheapened the experience for us all. Too often, it rained sorrow on those who make their livelihoods in the NFL. It created (deliberately, I believe) in the fans a cheap and sneaking belief that all people are duplicitous at heart, rather than that the management of the Broncos, one of the best in all of sports, is doing a difficult job, and doing it well within the boundaries of the options that Jay Cutler's actions afforded them. Pat Bowlen is the kind of owner that I am proud to have.
This photo is from the ceremony nominating Brian Dawkins as a Walter Peyton Man of the Year Award finalist. It reflects the kind of men and the type of organization that we are privileged to support. I want to keep that in mind as we move forward.
Despite statements to the contrary, I thought the evidence showed that Cutler and Bus Cook had been told that trade talks were not initiated by the Broncos, had taken place and that the Broncos were categorically not looking at trading him beyond that one situation. I thought it was clear that Pat Bowlen, certainly one of the best owners in sports, has acted in good faith, and that he supported his head coach because he knew the real Tales behind this situation. At this point, I think that has been established as well as anything can be. Not all would agree, and that's fine. No need to argue it further. But there is one thing that I think we can agree on.
The sludge of stories attributed to ‘sources', none of who ever saw the light of day (much less the light of truth), and who cowered in furtive journalistic shadow, was for the most part an open sewer, flowing through the pages of our media. Please forgive my bluntness. Some will undoubtedly choose to continue to believe or to see this otherwise; I do not wish to try to convince them differently. I will suggest that we often believe in others what we fear is true about ourselves, but I believe that people of good faith and good character can and do have differing opinions. Whatever yours, I'm glad that you've added your thoughts and insights to the discussion and I welcome your future feedback. But this is not about who told the truth. It is about a pattern that has emerged - the substituting of rumor and innuendo for truth. An example was Dave Krieger's description of Coach McDaniels as 'mealy-mouthed' and comparing his actions to Bill Clinton's cowardice regarding his sexual escapades.
Things took a new and bitter turn yesterday with the mean-spirited and arrogant trumpeting that Clay Matthews had failed a drug test. Did he? Did others? The truth is that right now we don't know. Matthews, his coach and family have issued a scathing reply debunking such rumors and challenging their 'evidence'. Until such results are officially made public, this should serve as a vivid reminder that the information we receive is frequently inaccurate and often lacks accountability. The trumped up, obscure and meaningless link that I saw to a ‘drug test' that had no name, date nor validity but was simply a stolen copy of a page indicating that somewhere, somehow, someone had taken such a test and had a positive result. It proved nothing except that we as a culture are sometimes both gullible and vulnerable.
We don't know who or whether anyone shown on that link existed or if that, too, was just another trumped up ‘cut and paste' - cutting into the life of a young man whose professional and personal livelihood rests on his reputation as well as his play and pasting a stigma, unearned, upon it. He has gifted us with his play, and it shames me that we so easily sully his reputation. I would ask that we consider this: Isn't it time that we tried to do better?
One thing that heartens me about MHR is that people here expect themselves and their peers to act within a higher standard. JohnnyB has consistently required us to behave in a civil manner and has hastened to take whatever actions are required to achieve that. Foul language and personal attacks are not permitted, nor should they be. Few among us need that requirement: the vast majority of members would not act any other way. While it is not appropriate to lay an additional requirement here, I would ask the members whether they would agree to an additional stricture: Rumors should only be posted if the source can be ascertained. Post your links, support your statements and state a rumor as such.
If you discover something in your travels on the web that you want to share, thank you! If you are the first with a new story, I salute you and hope that you will share it with the members and visitors. The vast majority of posts are a boon to us all. I'm not trying to suggest otherwise. Our members are the best you could look for.
But consider: If what you are going to post defames a man's character, as the vicious rumor regarding Clay Matthews did, please take a pause. Every one of us has, at some point in their life, been injured by the incessant rumor mills that crop up in every social group or strata in our lives. Consider what happened to you or yours when it was aimed at your loved ones. Then think for a minute about how it would feel if the rumor, if it is a rumor, was directed at you.
If you're still okay with whatever you're posting and you believe that it's a fair assessment, I would like to thank you, very sincerely, for sharing it with us. My own life has been greatly enriched through the sharing by members and staff of this site, and words fail to express how much I appreciate that. But, in the wake of the Cutler saga, can any of us not see how often rumors masquerade as fact, and gossip as reason?

Whatever your final take on the recent experience, we are all of one mind here: We appreciate the Broncos organization, we want it to succeed and we strive to support it. We support each other, as people as well as fans. I have welcomed the give and take, debate and discussion. It has been a powerful experience, great theatre, and I've learned a lot. It also brought thousands of new visitors, scores of new members and new voices to our site, and we are all better for that. In the last analysis, the membership is what makes this site exceptional, and John's stewardship has kept us on course with a steady and unwavering rudder.
So, and only from me personally, let's continue to keep the postings on Mile High Report to the highest standard. The membership has always given me revision and redirection if I've missed or misunderstood anything. That has made me a better member, writer and person. Let's be willing to self-direct what we post. If you wouldn't show it to your mother, think twice. If it defames a man, whether he is player, coach or owner, think again. Post your sources, always. Identify rumors as rumors. Never hand them off as fact, and take pride, as we all do, in keeping MHR the best sports site in existence.
The best site anywhere, IMHO.
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Thanks Doc. another Great Post, ( Character Counts ) its "The Bronco Way" MHR RULES
GO BRONCOS
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
Great stuff Doc and Rec'd
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
now that was terriffic stuff!!
I wish i’d have written that amazing take on the nastiness that shouldn’t be and the optimism for the season to come.
Thanks for that, I hope you don’t mind as I direct other bloggers to it.
Go Broncos!
team fan
can someone be a devout fan of the broncos & pat bowlen while dispise and loathe the head coach without being called a traitor or non-fan? if so, count me in.
go broncos!
Yes u can! I do!
u can despise Xanders until we manage a couple play-off wins too!
Go Broncos!
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 5, 2009 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions
Krieger
I kind of like the mealy-mouth/Cilnton comparison. It was vivid prose and only that. Watching McDaniels on TV, he doesn’t come off well. He looks and sounds evasive. But who doesn’t with little experience with the media. I can’t wait for the draft and the season. I’m anxious to see what McD can do. While many won’t agree, Clinton wasn’t a bad President, even if he was mealy-mouthed. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I bleed orange (can’t get into that Blue thing…that’s Chicago) and I agree 100% with Bear. Dislike whomever you want to, but keep it positive for the Broncos.
Orangeman
I agree.
It’s what they used to call ‘blue prose’, and it’s good blue prose but lousy jounalism. If he drew a single specific comparison to Clinton or extablished some falsehoods that he could hang that on, it would be one thing. He obviously just hates the man, and journalistic objectivity or integrity be damned.
I don’t want Josh to read my my evening news. I don’t care if he has a captivating stage presence or if he mumbles into his socks. I want him to diagram plays, coach players and recreate the Broncos in the image of a champion. I don’t want him to do it the way anyone else did. It’s a new era, there are new players and yet the challenge remains the same: Bring us home that trophy!
Hillis in '09
Keep it classy MHR.
Thanks Broncobear.
Would you consider Cutler a BroncoBear?
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Apr 5, 2009 12:47 PM MDT reply actions
No I'd consider him a traitor...jk. Great post Bear.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Great pun, TBF
Nah. BroncoBears don’t whine when they don’t get their way and dis people in the media. Except in the spring when they are just waking up from hibernation and the Girl hides their remote because they are cussing at the TV when the basketball tourney is on and the popcorns getting cold and
What were we talking about?
Hillis in '09
Bravo Doc...
As always you come across as calm, classy and correct.
From there, I'd like to say that the wheels came off, but that wouldn't feel like an accurate description. The wheels didn't just magically come off, the Raiders all got out of the car, shot the wheels off the own car, busted out the taillights, smashed the windshield and poured Splenda in the gas tank. Then they all piled back inside and started screaming, "CAR WON'T MOVE, ME SAD NOW!" - MJD Yahoo Sports
I tried to open it in multiple windows, and then proceeded to rec each one
no luck. it didn’t register a single extra vote! We are still stuck with our single votes…
Amnesty, the idea that you can forgive transgressions against you, gives as much to one side, as it does the other. It has the noble quality of bestowing mercy to both parties.
There is no army so powerful as an idea whose time has come.
by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 5, 2009 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions
You Call for Unity, then You Proceed to Parrot the Bronco PR Machine
It is a bit disingenuous to call for unity, as you did in your early paragraphs, then proceed to make the Denver Bronco PR machine argument as to “what the evidence showed.”
You can’t have it both ways. You either want to put the dispute behind us, or you continue to argue the merits of either side of the controversy. You did both in your commentary.
Pick one. stop trashing Cutler and his side of the dispute, or say that both parties screwed up and let’s put the matter behind us.
I will support you in your effort to restore some unity in wanting Denver to make some good picks and rebuild the team. Or, I will argue the contrary position, that Krieger has it right and Klis and those who wish to continue getting leaks from Dove Valley and articulating that position have it wrong.
We both would like to see Denver win the Super Bowl in the near future, I just would like it to be with a coach I respect. Cutler goes now, and McDaniels goes in a year or so. That would bring some unity to it.
by Baltimore Bronco on Apr 5, 2009 3:13 PM MDT reply actions
Nonconcur with only two courses of action
There is at least one more COA. COA 3 = both parties did well and improved their situation.
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Apr 6, 2009 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions
That's fine
If you see it as wanting to have something both ways, that’s your privlege. As I noted, different folks can be of goodwill and see it differently.
Whatever your final take on the recent experience, we are all of one mind here: We appreciate the Broncos organization, we want it to succeed and we strive to support it. We support each other, as people as well as fans. I have welcomed the give and take, debate and discussion.
I mean it. If you consider ‘unity’ as agreeing with you, no, I don’t. If you see it as agreeing to disagree and moving past that. as I do, then there is no concern.
The idea that I am part of, or parroting, some PR machine is incorrect. I have listened, considered, and come to a conclusion. You see it differently, and that’s fine. It doesn’t stop me from supporting anyone who is a fan, regardless of their conclusion. Including you.
Hillis in '09
GREAT POST!
This should be forwarded to every SB Nation team site, and beyond. Too bad nobody at the Denver Post will ever take this to heart. I have never seen so many stories that quoted as gospel a “NFL source” than I have seen over the last 40 days. PATHETIC. I wish our Denver media was as ethical, forthright, and honest as our Denver NFL franchise.
Awesome Post
I’m so thrilled to have found MHR. I’m an active member of FanNation.com, and SI site, and I blog a lot over there, but most of my Broncos-related blogs will be found here on MHR moving forward. I have found in my brief time here that the members of this site are far more civil than on any mass media site (though most on FanNation aren’t bad), and it’s very refreshing.
Love the post, love the site, rec’d!
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1.Don’t EVER compare yourself to Elway, and we’ll make sure we don’t either. 10 years is enough time to heal.
2.Don’t make our ownership or management have to call YOU time after time.
3.Don’t piss off Mr. B, he signs your checks.
4. Try your best, we’ll support you if you leave 100% out on the field.
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by wtnelson on Apr 5, 2009 4:04 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Great To Have You
Isn’t MHR amazing? Every week I learn something new and feel fulfilled after reading some MHR post.
My DifferentTake
Since you have voiced your version, broncobear, I will voice mine. I think the evidence shows that McDaniels is the kind of guy who sees things only his way, you have to have his offense, his defense, and his special teams instead of maximizing the strengths of the players he now has. He also loves power and has managed to scoot out anyone who is a rival to that power, including the Goodmans, Jay Cutler and even Mike Leach.. This idea of calling a grown man who fought and won many wars for the Broncos “the player” and showing up for a formal press conference in a hoodie and never accepting any blame for the mess he had a part in creating shows that the only interest Josh McDaniels has is making the team over in his selfish image.
People who are part of group, even as remotely as being fans, don’t have to agree with the current leadership of the group, in order to believe in the group. I think Josh McDaniels has taken the Broncos in the wrong direction. I have faith in the Broncos that some day the team will return to something in which I have some pride.
So, we can argue some more, or we can hope for better things in the future and hope that some maturing takes place with the new leadership of the team.
Yes, let’s move on, but then let’s not reargue the past.
by Baltimore Bronco on Apr 5, 2009 5:19 PM MDT reply actions
Yes, McD's actions show a lack of confidence in developing inherited talent
I respect coaches that can develop and improve the talent they inherit. McD needs to prove that he can at a minimum sustain the talent he inherited. If he is a good coach he will improve the talent. Fortunately for him, he doesn’t have to do much to improve the D, but I’m not sure if that provides much of a litmus test for his coaching abilities.
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Apr 6, 2009 11:57 PM MDT up reply actions
nothin wrong with a "different take," however...
if you’re take is based on emotions rather than facts, glued together with exaggerations and assumptions…people will poke holes in it, and then the opinion appears unsound, or invalid based on certain fact based principles…anyways…Football coach/B.B Protoge=hoody in interview (McD has worn suits as well to press conferences)…using term “the player” avoids name-based quotes/misquotes which the media is beggin for…When’s the last time the draft was so exciting for us Bronco fans?…
you already know.
Tell me again how Mike Leach was a rival to his power?
McDaniels is the head coach, front office staffing decisions are made by the owner. If you still want to blame McDaniels for the Cutler situation that is fine, but you’re bashing him for things that either he has nothing to do with or are just flat out lame, like what he wears to press conferences. I’m pretty sure coaches generally wear team gear to those things.
Have a good time all the time...that's my motto. - Viv Savage
Replacing Leach with a carbon copy from NE was a sign that McD valued
process over product. In a high visibility environment that has easily identified performance measures (won-loss records) like the NFL, the only thing that matters is making the team better (the product). If the new management is so narrowly focused on replicating NE’s experiences with another franchise they will not be able to see the pre-existing strengths as they will be putting more of their efforts into their branding vs. actually getting wins.
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
by Arctic Bronco on Apr 7, 2009 12:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Seeing the Other Side
What facts do we have on the Cutler situation? Do you really think McDaniels didn’t try to trade Cutler? We let juries send people to prison on inferences far less secure than what we have seen in this situation.
Why bring in another long snapper when you have a perfectly solid one on your team, except for the purpose of replacing one of the popular locker room guys from the old regime with one who reports to the new boss?
Lots of football people think the hoodie look is pretty lame for the sidelines and for a press conference. People have been all over Jay Cutler for his relaxed look, but some of you seem to give McDaniels a pass for bringing that ugly Patriot form of dress to Denver. You would think a coach trying to establish a look of authority would try to dress like it. His defensive coordinator dresses like a coach should. Do you really think McDaniels looked like a class act at the press conference?
Taking away a player’s name is to demean him. We aren’t talking boot camp or prison.. You don’t see other coaches talking like that. I view it as the voice of an insecure coach who uses a role instead of a name.
Look we aren’t going to bridge our differing views of the situation. Its just if you say as this thread said, let’s move on, then let’s not reargue the case. Let’s agree to disagree and respect each other as fellow Bronco fans with differing opinions. I assume Bronco Country values free speech. I am still a Bronco fan; I just can’t stand Josh McDaniels. Not so many years ago, John Elway came to Denver because his father disliked Frank Kush, the coach of the Baltimore Colts. This situation is not so different. Jay Cutler had plenty of reason to not trust Josh McDaniels.
So, we all move on.
by Baltimore Bronco on Apr 5, 2009 7:59 PM MDT reply actions
Bravo!!! Great post
The Media is so intense on getting the story and getting it first. There are certain professions i have little respect for. The media is one of them. Not to say there aren’t some good people out there, but for the most part they are like cannibles. They could care less who they hurt, as long as they get the story. The minute they say"from an unidentified source they just lost my attention. I maintain a certain level of skepticism where they are concerned. Look at the last 40 days how many different reports of trades, he saids, that turned out to be false. Take some advice. If you don’t hear it from the horses mouth, Be skeptical!!! Wait till it’s confirmed.
Each week that brings us closer to the ultimate prize,
I'm moving on.
I am moving on mad at Cutler. I am not mad at the organization because they can do what they want as far as who plays and who goes. I am not a Cutler fan now and I hate the Bears anyway. Orton, you are my favorite QB right now hands down. Broncos Rule!!!!!!!!
I have a question about your article Broncobear
Hello Broncobear:
You stated:
“Rumors should only be posted if the source can be ascertained. Post your links, support your statements and state a rumor as such.”
I can see doing such a thing if you are making a point or taking a stance. You want good evidence backing up your statements.
As far as “breaking news” do you feel people should spend the time finding out is completely factual (no rumor) or just report it? I “broke” the news awhile back about Jay Cutler having Diabetes. I did not check beyond the major news source I discovered it on. The article seemed important and the source was paid to research the facts so I did not follow up beyond that. I guess my take is that if the person puts out direct information like that He/She should not have to put “rumor” in the title or research the source. I also made it a Fan Post instead of a Fan Shot.
As far as the Fan Post vs Fan Shots. If you look at the number of comments on the Fan Shots there are very few. It seems like Fan Shots is a mostly ignored section. Would it be better to post “Breaking News” on the Fan Posts so more people can see it and possibly Rec to Home section?
Victor Frankl:
What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.
Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.
You bring out such a good point
As I mentioned in the last piece, nearly everything we can use is, in some degree, an ipse dixit. That poses certain moral dilemmas.
As far as "breaking news" do you feel people should spend the time finding out is completely factual (no rumor) or just report it? I "broke" the news awhile back about Jay Cutler having Diabetes. I did not check beyond the major news source I discovered it on. The article seemed important and the source was paid to research the facts so I did not follow up beyond that
To me, that’s fine. It’s a part of reasonable due diligence. You didn’t claim to know personally. You just reported that this is in the media. No possible harm, no foul.
This was intended to deal with two, sometimes opposite, things. To note that a calumny (gossip that is intended to harm) can be present and to worry that it will creep into our posts without caution is not to say that we can always know the truth of a matter. The other side is to develop a personal opinion as to the veractiy of a certain person’s statements or the source of a certain person’s statements. Those aare just fine – list your source and move on. Others will, or won’t agree, and both are fine.
Of course, accusing others of being tools is out of bounds. Personal attacks are always inappropriate, and civil discourse should remain just that – civil. Debates on the relative veracity of sources or positions is inevitable, and in my mind, helpful, even if no final conclusion can be acertained. Thank you for bringing that up, wyoeng.
Hillis in '09
That is why I go to MHR!
What a great post Bear. When I hear something about my beloved Broncos I come here to get all sides. IMO I think Broncos have some of the best fans. If we can all agree to disagree then good on ya. Lets go Broncos!!!!!!!!
Tough times don't last.......Only tough people!
Even the unidentified sources agree.......
that the Bear is a good writer. Oh and by the way, they also say this post should be rec’d!
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.

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