Trying not to live in the past
After some serious reflections regarding the past few months in Bronco land, I am hopefully at a point to move forward from this debacle. I have mused to why this all transpired, why a supposed offensive Guru and QB friendly coach was not able to reach his most talented player and be able to convince him that working together would be much more beneficial than opposing each other. Why one of the league’s most calm and likable owners was not able to step in and come with a solution that would benefit the team today and five years from today. Why a young QB who has had an offense built around him and would be set to explode into the stratosphere be willing to do everything in his power to escape to another team rather than seek a peace. I think it all stems from a lack of being able to let go of the past and embrace a future.
The game of football is an interesting juxtaposition of theories and ideology. In one vein we state, this is a team game, it takes 53 guys working as one to win. I agree with that statement. Yet, when we look at the game, we all now that you need great players to become a great team, regardless of the whole team effort or ideology. It is hard to say that any one team doesn’t work harder or more together than any other team in the league, there are some teams that obviously have a lack of chemistry and struggle working together, but by in large most teams in this league work relatively well together. What separates a team from another team is usually not teamwork or dedication to the team, it is the quality of the players at key positions. Take a team like Baltimore, a team with a plethora of defensive playmakers, yet had lacked talent on the offensive side of the ball. Input a quality young QB in Joe Flacco and the team became instantly better, did the team work any harder than they did last year or was it having an upgrade in talent in a key position? Take a team like Pittsburgh, a team that had continually been a playoff team year in and year out, had routinely been in the AFC title games year in and year out, but had failed to get to the SB or win one for over 25 years, insert a quality QB and the team wins a SB and now has won two, did they work any harder or better as a team than they did prior, no, but they definitely had an upgrade in talent in one position. Many point to the Patriots as the ultimate “team” philosophy, yet that is giving a severe disservice to the players that have been a part of their recent run, guys like Brady, Bueschi, Harrison, Dillion, Brown, Graham, Symour, Wilfork, Samual, Law, and the likes are great players, not merely cogs that you can replace on the free agent wire. Do they function well as a team, yes, but they obviously have superior talent to most teams in the league.
So what does the earlier paragraph have to do with letting go of the past. Obviously the Broncos past is most closely tied with one player, John Elway, for better or worse. Elway set the standard for not only most of the fans, but also for the owner and past coaches. Elway was what we deemed as the epitome of what a franchise QB is and should be. Often we seem to overlook key points in Elway’s career in which many in Denver thought he should be benched in favor of guys like Tommy Maddox or traded to get the plethora of picks, because he was deemed a loser by many, someone who couldn’t win the big one. An obvious disservice to the fact that he was able to take what was arguably an 8-8 team in most years and take them to the Super Bowls on multiple occasions. However, it is also a disservice to also claim that the 80’s Broncos were “bad” teams, those bad teams had talented defense lead by a mastermind in Joe Collier that were continually near the top of the league in total defense. But the obvious conclusion was that regardless of the talent on defense, for the Broncos to win a championship, they needed a more complete offense and complete team that would not put the burden on Elway to win, insert Mike Shanahan and development of the zone blocking scheme and Bobby Turner ability to find a guy like Terrell Davis. The Broncos became a better team but they also increased their talent level.
After Elway retired, the franchise was in an obvious state of flux, the coach in Mike Shanahan had learned from the 49ers and looked at the Cowboys, and determined that championship teams don’t rebuild, they reload. After watching Baltimore and Tampa Bay win Super Bowls with average to below average QB’s, and St. Louis win a SB with a former grocery store bagger, and New England win with a 6th rounder who was a back up to Brian Griese, the emphasis went away from drafting and developing a franchise QB, but rather develop a lower round guy or bring in a vet and coach them up. And so it went, no concerted effort was made to look at the long term, only to try to fill holes. And then after the AFC championship loss to Pittsburgh I think there was a fundamental change in Mike Shanahan approach, he realized that for Denver to be a consistent Championship team, they needed a consistent playmaker at the most valuable position and hence was the drafting of Jay Cutler. Shanahan had saw that teams like Baltimore and Tampa Bay did not have long term success with changes at QB, and that despite the limited pedigree of a guy like Brady, he definitely was a franchise QB; capable of not only managing a game, but of winning a game when he needed to. Shanahan looked to rebuild the offense into a younger version of the 1998 teams, dominating offensive line, talented WR’s and TE, and was looking for a late round dominating RB. However, the one thing that Mike would not or could not change from the past was his ability to give up personnel power; which, I feel was his ultimate undoing. Many can speculate that Mike may have lost the team (which he may have), but I believe that ultimately Pat Bowlen fired Mike Shanahn because he did not want to relinquish control of personnel decisions.
Enter the coaching search, McDaniels had obviously had some very recent success at the Patriots being an offensive coordinator, but the choice baffled many do to the obvious glaring needs on defense. However, I think that in McDaniels, Bowlen saw a young Mike Shanahan, someone that could take control of the team, input a style from a successful organization and bring instant success to the franchise. The one thing that may have been somewhat misleading in that assessment, in that Mike Shanahan did borrow many things from the 49ers as far as personnel approach and institution of the West Coast offense, yet Mike Shanahan made his system uniquely the Broncos system, no one had used a shotgun approach to the west coast offense and implementation of zone blocking power running scheme was uniquely Mike Shanahan doing. Mike figured out how best to use the talent that was here and mix that with other things he had learned in San Francisco.
Now comes a possible trade for Jay Cutler to land Matt Cassel, to what degree the Broncos initiated the trade or contemplated it will be subject to debate for the coming decade, but we can agree that it did happen. Now the reasoning can vary from we were exploring every option to McDaniels having and unhealthy man crush for Matt Cassel, but I think it stems from McDaniels philosophy learned in New England. A misguided notion that all players are replaceable, after the success with Matt Cassel, McDaniels believed much like Mike Shanahan did after Elway retired that he could win with a limited QB, provided he could upgrade other portions of the team. McDaniels had seen success from a solid defense, offense weapons in Welker, Moss, and Watson, and a QB that was close to being cut before the season started, why not look at trying to relive the Patriots past season, to many that would be seen as a success. McDaniels had also seen that dealing with players that may be unhappy meant one thing, basically that all players were expected to submit regardless of time with the team or their talent, if you want to understand the “Patriot” way ask the likes of Ty Law and Asante Samual, Dion Branch, to what happens with unhappy vets. McDaniels to was concerned with having the past define his present, he knew one way to deal with things and that was the approach he used, to force a submittal by Jay Culter or to get rid of the Jay if he would not submit unconditionally.
Now comes to Jay Cutler, say his opinions and actions were generated by a mistrust of a franchise or to some misguided Spengalli manipulations by an agent, but I think everyone can agree that Jay was upset. Jay too looked at the past, he looked at John Elway, he understood that he would be filling that role in Denver, fair or unfair. And with that role had always come a certain understanding that the QB caries more responsibility than any position, and is judged more harshly by the fans and media to either living up to or not living up to his predecessor. He also had a belief that franchise QB’s were more valuable than others on the team, due to what they mean not only to the team but to the community. That has not only been true here, but in other teams as well. He was not able to let go of this past and see that a change in the philosophy of the Broncos organization had occurred when we imported the “Patriots” way.
How does Bowlen fit into this, he obviously was put into the worst position in not undermining his coach yet supporting his franchise QB. Initially I thought him remaining silent through the initial coarse of the whole debacle was really the only way he could accomplish this. He could not fire or reprimand his coach since that may instantly been seen as capitulating to a players demand. Yet, I am sure that he too has seen the similarities between John Elway and Jay Cutler and did not want to lose the player, hence the very terse press release, “The Denver Broncos will not be trading Jay Cutler”. So what changed, why change the stance, the reason could be as simple as Jay did not return his phone calls for ten days. And that may have been it, but in all reality, Jay Cutler was under contract for three more years, he had not missed any mandatory meetings, and he had publically said he did not intend to miss any. Why not let things cool down and discuss things at the first mandatory meeting? I think this too goes back to the past, to the Reeves and Elway relationship, Pat Bowlen had watched his franchise player in John Elway be unable to function effectively with his head coach due to the mistrust between the HC and player. He saw the past and feared that this relationship (Cutler and McDaniels) was doomed to a similar fate. I think Pat Bowlen ultimately did not have any issues with Jay Cutler, he said after the trade that he likes Jay and had no issues with his on field performance or stuff off the field. I would argue that Pat Bowlen tried to put Jay in the best position while not hurting the Broncos, he traded him to the Bears for a simple reason, to try to show that there was no hard feeling between Pat and Jay, why else trade him to his home town team? You may claim that was the best offer, but I am guessing they could of gotten a much better offer from Cleveland, Washington, Detroit, Tampa Bay, New York, or Washington had they waited and leveraged teams against each other, but teams like New York weren’t even in the game, which leads me to believe that Pat wanted Jay to go to Chicago first. Basically the Chicago offer accomplished two things, it ended the distraction before the draft, and it was good enough that people in Denver would be satisfied that Denver got fair value.
Now comes the point where I think myself and others have to move on from the past. We cannot expect another Elway, we had a Jay Cutler, and who knows, we may land a Colt McCoy or Sam Bradford in a year or two, but we will never have another John Elway. Just because a QB does not match that perception of John Elway by the fans does not mean he is a bad QB or someone who cannot become or be a franchise QB and become a HOF QB. We don’t need to latch on to the Patriots past, no matter the success, we are not the Patriots, we are the Denver Broncos. As much as we want to laud the success of McDaniels at the Patriots, that team did not win the Super Bowl the last time they were there. The true measure of success (besides the wins and championships) will be the ability for the head coach to make things the Broncos way, to have the league copying us, not us copying them.
This trade will obviously be looked at for years and probably even decades to come, right now we have no way of knowing what the ultimate fate will be, we can not dwell on this trade, even if it will be hard to not look back and ponder what if. Dwelling on this trade, no matter which way it ends up, will ultimately cause greater division in fans as one side will be telling the other side I told you so. I don’t want to live in that past, I want to move on, I want to be excited about the upcoming season and not rehashing tired debates that solve nothing.
Review of all things with a critical eye may cause some pain and discomfort for those who wrap themselves in a banner of Bronco fandom. As some would say, fan is derived from fanatic, and sometimes reasoning with a fanatic is an exercise in futility. I will always respect a different opinion, and I may (and often do) disagree with opinions, but I am ready to move on and not live in the past, regardless of the outcome of this trade. I will still have an opinion regarding the coarse of actions of the Broncos, but I do not fault a fan in supporting or opposing the coarse of the ship, season ticket holders are not the only ones with a vote. Many will obviously try to put the best spin on any move of the organization, I can respect the passion and hope, but without critical thought or opinion, then we doom ourselves in being nothing more than the mindless Raider or Charger fan, and no one wants that. The past can help shape us, but hopefully it does not define us or the feelings that we share. I will love the Broncos for a simple point, it is not what they have done (championships, SB, players) it is what they have meant to a community, not only Denver, Colorado, and the Rocky Mountain region, but for fans throughout the US. The Broncos represent the spirit of those fans and people, they are something that I could take pride in being part of, if only a small part. I will move on from the past and hopefully we all can move forward and not live in the past.
Go Broncos
Best of luck to Jay Cutler
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I'm curious B-man
you seem to admire the Steeler’s Way and resent the Patriot’s Way.
What do you see as the differences? How is the way the Steelers handled Joey Porter, Plexico Burress, or Antwaan Randle El any different than the way the Patriots handled Ty Law, Deion Branch, Lawyer Malloy?
BTW: thought provoking post. We want a new “Broncos Way”
My feeling of the Steeler way is more to do with economics than anything
The Steelers (and I have some very close friends who were born and raised in Pittsburgh), but they will tell you that basically the Rooney family runs a very tight economical ship, basically they are in the same boat as the Al Davis, in that all of their income is derived soley from the Steeler organization and they indded have a large family to support. That being said, they look at economics and realize that pretty much you can get very similar players at smaller prices, and aren’t willing to break the bank for them, why else let guys like Rod Woodson, Chad Brown, and the likes leave. Where I see the Patriots as being derived of a you shall not dictate terms ever, I think the Steelers go into players and say look, we aren’t going to pay more than the below market rate because we cannot afford it. If you have noticed, there has been great speculation about the Rooney’s selling the team or interest in the team, because they don’t have the finacial resources as other owners. Kraft has deep pockets, so to me it is more to do with having the players they want submit to their terms.
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If I understand you....
you’re saying that the Rooney’s have no choice but to be economical while the Patriots are doing it to force submission. While I’ve seen that view of the “Patriots Way” expressed in the media, I just don’t see any evidence for it. For one thing, almost all of the players the Pats have let go to free agency have failed to play up to the level they played at NE. Law, Malloy, Branch, Givens, McGinest,… They continue to play well, but not at the level they did with the Pats and not at a level commensurate with their contracts. You could argue that Samuel breaks the mold but I’m not sure he’s played up to expectation in Philly either. On the surface it looks like the Pats just looked at these players and decided they weren’t worth the money that it would take to resign them. Kraft may have more money than Rooney, but he still has to abide by the same salary cap as every team. I haven’t notice either Pitts or NE being at the bottom of the cap every year.
Furthermore, as MHRgirl posted a while ago, the Pats do pay above scale for some postions, most notably their lineman. You might disagree, but to me that doesn’t seem to be cheapskate; it seems to be a philosphy that says games are won in the trenches so that’s where we’ll put our money.
Finally, I would be more inclined to accept your point of view if I saw signs of former Pat players bed mouthing the team after they left. I don’t see that. In fact I see more former Broncos bad mouthing Shanahan than I see former Patriots bad mouthing Belichick.
There’s a lot of media talk disparaging the “Patriots Way” but I don’t see the evidence. It looks to me more like the kind of sour grapes that success brings. Remember when the Broncos running game was feared? All the talk then was of how dirty the Broncos players were. We still run the same scheme but no one complains any more. Why not?
We have been barraged by so called expects telling us that McD was going to do this or going to do that because that’s the way the Patriots do it. But I just ahven’t seen the evidence for that. Rather than let the media tell us what our coach will or won’t do, or how our team philosophy will be, why don’tr we just wait and see what he actually does.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Apr 6, 2009 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Extremely well said Broncoman
I am one of those who (to frame it nicely) is not a fan of McDaniels, but at the same time I CANNOT dislike him enough to stop me from barracking for the Bronco’s, and so I have made myself put it behind me and concentrate on what I can do – be a fan of the Bronco’s and look at the upside of the whole sordid incident, like getting KO, my wife said I smiled for the first time in a month after I took the time (via Boydy’s post) to investigate him. I also wish Jay the best in Chicago but at the same time must support McDaniels – not because I like him but because if he succeeds then The Bronco’s succeed, and when you get down to it that is the point.
Great post and rec’d
One thing I know for sure - I'm usually wrong.
It's not all about talent
B-man, I enjoyed reading your post very much. I’ve put countless hours of thought into this debacle and it seems obvious you have too. However I have to disagree with you on some key points.
From my experience as a high school and college athlete and being on successful and not so successful teams, I’ve witnessed a few things that I think are relevant to this discussion. There is an important charactaristic of a consistent winner that I have a difficult time desribing other than someone that is, as Alfred Williams puts it, ‘All In!’. I would also say ‘buys in’. This person is willing to do WHATEVER it takes for the team and is not just a teammate or even someone that is liked by the whole team. If you have a lot of experience with teams, you know who I’m talking about. They take time to give younger teammates a little advice, are not the first ones out of the building after practice, don’t do any activities off the field that have a chance to disrupt their play, get energized from a loss or bad performance to work harder next time and don’t sulk (ring a bell?). They just absorbe their sport, they live their sport.
I’ve been on a few championship teams and from what I remember we had a lot of these guys. Now a lot of these guys had a lot of talent and conversely I’ve been on teams that were loaded with talent at every position, but could never win it all. I’ve also witnessed a few players that are always ‘All in’ have very little physical talent, but produce results. However, over the long run being ‘All in’ was not quite enough.
From that, I’ve concluded a championship calibur player is not just super talented or ‘All in’, he is both.
The real great ones had both, Elway, Farve, Montana, Rice, Payton, Jordan, Jeter have a great combination of both. Fans, coaches and owners always fall in love with talent. It’s like the uber hot blonde, we all want to date her and go talk to her, but any guy that has dated her would tell you to steer clear because she is nutz…but we don’t listen, she is hot.
How many championships has the most talented baseball player, still playing, won? Zero (A rod)
How many championships has, arguably, the most talented receiver won? Zero (T.O.)
How many championships have the uber talented Chargers won in the last few years? Zero.
The Cowboys have been loaded with talent for the last couple of years…championships? Zero
I think this is what defines McDaniels and what Bowlen loves about him, and what may have conversely undone Shanahan. (How many free agent or even draft picks had a ton of talent, but never produced on the field?..too many) McDaniels has done nothing but preach Team his whole time here and for him to be willing to tick off Cutler and risk the situation that unfolded only tells me he doesn’t put all his chips on talent alone. Some would say it was his admiration for Cassell, and if it was, it was because Cassell had the recipe of talent and being ‘All in’ that is vital at the QB position.
Now, B-man, I’ll agree every NFL team is a team with players that work great together as a team, but I think you over weigh teams with talented players and don’t give enough weight to teams with players that ‘Buy In’. It’s not a given that every player on an NFL team will buy in. Obviously talent is important, but its the number of talented players that buy in that seperate champions from the rest. Further, I would say a great leader is one that can get others to buy in.
Big Ben, and your beloved Steelers, have won a couple SBs, not because he is a super talent, but because he totally buys in and has ‘enough’ talent.
So while you move on and see doom and gloom for our Broncos and a coach that trades away once in a decade talent, I move on with hope and see a coach that doesn’t get lured into the glitz and glamour of great talent but can evaluate players that can bring championships, the ones with a lot of talent and the ability to go ‘All in’ for a team.
Ah... Weren't we lucky
in ‘97 and ’98? Not only did we have have players that could (and did) bring championships and go “all in” for the team, but we had all the glitz, glamour, and entertainment too. Less of the methodical dink and doink football. Not that there’s any less honor in winning that way… =)
Sorry to reminisce, here’s to looking forward ;).
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Thanks for tying the past to the future
Regardless of how I feel about the controversial offseason decisions I need to accept that it is premature to judge those decisions until all the games have been played.
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.





































